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can sbp defeat the team which fought tyrant?

team
silver surfer
beta ray bill
gladiator
jack of hearts
ganymede


can sbp do it?

Originally posted by Nihilist
can sbp defeat the team which fought tyrant?

team
silver surfer
beta ray bill
gladiator
jack of hearts
ganymede


can sbp do it? He would give it one helluva shot but would ultimately go down. Surfer would really do the most damage here.

Team for the win.

team

Team

Prime.

Originally posted by Nihilist
can sbp do it?

Nope.

SBP? As in IC SBP? Or Sin Corp SBP? Kinda curious which version.

Anyways, let the one-shots commence. Hey Galan, you should make an SMP smilie.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
let the one-shots commence.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
SBP? As in IC SBP? Or Sin Corp SBP? Kinda curious which version.

Anyways, let the one-shots commence. Hey Galan, you should make an SMP smilie.

ic sbp

no bfr

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hey Galan, you should make an SMP smilie. Posted a few.

Team
silver surfer
beta ray bill
gladiator
jack of hearts
ganymede

Let's see.

Not only would Superboy Prime's heat vision go straight through Gladiator's and kill him, but he wouldn't be phased by someone like Ganymede attacking him....

Originally posted by Nihilist
ic sbp

no bfr

Prime wins. No bfr needed. They all get the same thing Black Adam, Powergirl and Kal-L got.

SMP's heatvision, while having about no power left, still went through Superman as easy it would a human

Superboy Prime

Thre will be alot of oneshots.

There will be 5 one shots to be exact.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
SBP? As in IC SBP? Or Sin Corp SBP? Kinda curious which version.

Anyways, let the one-shots commence. Hey Galan, you should make an SMP smilie. He couldnt one shot Superboy yet you think he will oneshot these guys.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
There will be 5 one shots to be exact. He failed to oneshot Ion,Black Adam,Superboy,etc.

Originally posted by llagrok
Team
silver surfer
beta ray bill
gladiator
jack of hearts
ganymede

Let's see.

Not only would Superboy Prime's heat vision go straight through Gladiator's and kill him, but he wouldn't be phased by someone like Ganymede attacking him.... Nah. It didnt kill anyone worth remembering. It wont kill any of these guys with one shot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He couldnt one shot Superboy yet you think he will oneshot these guys.

To be honest, he was just toying with Superboy. Prime walked away from an explosion that left SB dead.

Originally posted by Sundipped
To be honest, he was just toying with Superboy. Prime walked away from an explosion that left SB dead. He didnt oneshot Black Adam either.

Name me some character he soundly defeated with oneshots.

err, the same superman prime who was destroying all of reality with his fists and was responsible for the events leading upto infinity crisis and an explanation to retcon the entire dc reality? lol, i think he one shots the team.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
err, the same superman prime who was destroying all of reality with his fists and was responsible for the events leading upto infinity crisis and an explanation to retcon the entire dc reality? lol, i think he one shots the team. Do you realize you are taking this out of context as well?

When was he destroying all of reality with his fists?

Which characters has he oneshotted?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Primepunch.PNG

Originally posted by leonheartmm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Primepunch.PNG Did you read this comic?


I know exactly what took place do you?

I knew you were taking this completely out of context.

the last one was the scan, and here is his biography, for those who dont know him that well{please dont diescredit it just cause of wikipedia, if you dont agree post reasons why}. the team is nuthing compared to him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superboy_Prime

Originally posted by leonheartmm
the last one was the scan, and here is his biography, for those who dont know him that well{please dont diescredit it just cause of wikipedia, if you dont agree post reasons why}. the team is nuthing compared to him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superboy_Prime Have you read any of Prime?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He couldnt one shot Superboy yet you think he will oneshot these guys.

Thanos couldnt oneshot drax, gamora, or sg... and you think that he can beat everyone. Double standard?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He failed to oneshot Ion,Black Adam,Superboy,etc.

He was toying with all of them. Thats why he was laughing at all of them.

Short synopsis.

Superman-prime vs Ion:

Ion: "ARGH!"

Superman-prime: "Told you you don't look so tough!"

Superman-prime: "I get to bleed you and plant you all in the same place. Enjoy your dirt nap lantern."

Ion: "UNN!"

Superman-prime: "So... who's next?"

Superman-prime vs Black Adam:

Black Adam: "The magic. It hurts!"

Superman-prime: " Actually... it tickles." *backhand

The others suvived... but not conner...

Prime still wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you realize you are taking this out of context as well?

Hey retconned reality while weakened. Thats all there is to it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When was he destroying all of reality with his fists?

When shards of it were flying off the panels...

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/notstupid6.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Realityalterpunch2.jpg

Originally posted by quanchi112
Which characters has he oneshotted?
Jonn:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/scan0022.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/scan0023.jpg

Powergirl:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Page_00028-29.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Page_00030.jpg

Grundy:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/solomonkiled.jpg

Zauriel and Breach:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/tofastforgl.jpg

Superman:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primegirsup.jpg

The Flash:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs2.jpg

Human Bomb:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs4.jpg

etc...

Originally posted by quanchi112
He didnt oneshot Black Adam either.

Too bad it was just a backhand.


Originally posted by quanchi112Name me some character he soundly defeated with oneshots.

He laid out Kal-L and Wondergirl with 1 heat vision blast.

sp stomps.

The only two he will probably one shot here are Ganymede and Jack of Hearts.

Still Prime wins.

Team for the win

Monarch had at least as much versatility with his energy powers as Surfer.

SBP wins

Originally posted by Sirius77
Thanos couldnt oneshot drax, gamora, or sg... and you think that he can beat everyone. Double standard?



He was toying with all of them. Thats why he was laughing at all of them.

Short synopsis.

Superman-prime vs Ion:

Ion: "ARGH!"

Superman-prime: "Told you you don't look so tough!"

Superman-prime: "I get to bleed you and plant you all in the same place. Enjoy your dirt nap lantern."

Ion: "UNN!"

Superman-prime: "So... who's next?"

Superman-prime vs Black Adam:

Black Adam: "The magic. It hurts!"

Superman-prime: " Actually... it tickles." *backhand

The others suvived... but not conner... When did I say Thanos can oneshot anyone. I say he wins but I dont start saying oneshot city.

Prime also lost and is kind of unstable that is another reason he laughs at everyone.


Prime hit Black Adam and did no damage to him at all.

Prime beat Ion but he has failed to impress as of yet so no big whoop there.

Again Prime wanted to destroy Conner but he didnt oneshot him at all.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Hey retconned reality while weakened. Thats all there is to it.



When shards of it were flying off the panels...

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/notstupid6.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Realityalterpunch2.jpg He broke the barrier. His punches dont retcon reality. Thats the point.

Sirius most of your scans dont show oneshots at all. MM was off panel and just like I said he didnt oneshot that many respectable top tiers at all.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He broke the barrier. His punches dont retcon reality. Thats the point.


ORLY?

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/...alVSClone10.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/...alVSClone11.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/...alVSClone12.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/...alVSClone13.jpg

Team.

Originally posted by Sirius77
ORLY?

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/...alVSClone10.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/...alVSClone11.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/...alVSClone12.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/...alVSClone13.jpg Did you read the comic?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Did you read the comic?


http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone9.jpghttp://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone10.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone11.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone12.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone13.jpg

Yes I did read the comic. He got trapped in the phantom zone, punched his way out and retconned bb's history. Retconning reality. You said he didnt. These scans are proof that he did.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He broke the barrier. His punches dont retcon reality. Thats the point.

Actually they do and have

Originally posted by Arcarsenal
The Retcon Punch

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4792/page000060tq.th.jpg http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7118/page000071xr.th.jpg http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/4484/page000088dx.th.jpg http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/6743/page000093io.th.jpg

Originally posted by Rorschach
More on the damage caused by Superboy-Prime

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4493/14zy0.th.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4584/1617co7.th.jpg

Originally posted by quanchi112
He failed to oneshot Ion,Black Adam,Superboy,etc.

Lulz.

Originally posted by Sirius77
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone9.jpghttp://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone10.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone11.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone12.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone13.jpg

Yes I did read the comic. He got trapped in the phantom zone, punched his way out and retconned bb's history. Retconning reality. You said he didnt. These scans are proof that he did. Because of another barrier he broke out of. Not just by him punching someone in the face.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Actually they do and have He broke the barrier of his co called cell and retconned reality. It wasnt as if he was retconning characters by punching them in the face. If he wasnt in those situations nothing would have been retconned.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because of another barrier he broke out of.

A barrier? The phantom zone is 3d space. It's like someone hitting air and breaking into another dmension.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not just by him punching someone in the face.

Youre right. He didnt even have to touch bb.

Originally posted by Sirius77
A barrier? The phantom zone is 3d space. It's like someone hitting air and breaking into another dmension.



Youre right. He didnt even have to touch bb. Again it depends on someone elses actions in order for him to accomplish this. If he was never imprisoned nothing would have been retconned. Bottom line is he cant do it in a fight by punching someone so it has no bearing here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again it depends on someone elses actions in order for him to accomplish this. If he was never imprisoned nothing would have been retconned. Bottom line is he cant do it in a fight by punching someone so it has no bearing here.

Are you retarded or something?

did you not read Mungi or Sirius's posts? They just proved that he can retcon anywhere. He punched his way out of the phantom zone. Nobody has ever done anything like that in the history of DC. The phantom zone depowers you and turns you into a wraith.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Are you retarded or something?

did you not read Mungi or Sirius's posts? They just proved that he can retcon anywhere. He punched his way out of the phantom zone. Nobody has ever done anything like that in the history of DC. The phantom zone depowers you and turns you into a wraith. Did you not read my counters.

Him punching way out of prisons isnt the same as just punching something and simply retconning it with a punch alone.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Are you retarded or something? Trick, I've asked you to stop this sort of posting too many times. I'll be issuing a warning next time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again it depends on someone elses actions in order for him to accomplish this. If he was never imprisoned nothing would have been retconned. Bottom line is he cant do it in a fight by punching someone so it has no bearing here.

What reason would he have to punch out of the new earth dimension?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Did you not read my counters.

Him punching way out of prisons isnt the same as just punching something and simply retconning it with a punch alone.

Actually I see what you mean. I think though that SBP could one-shot those people. First of all he did state that in one of his early battles he was not trying and he also could have killed Superman with an eye beam but aimed at his arm instead.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Did you not read my counters.

Him punching way out of prisons isnt the same as just punching something and simply retconning it with a punch alone.

He was supposed to be depowered. He was supposed to be a wraith. A ghost. But he still punched his way out of a dimension.

And he didnt even touch bb or bb would have died. The force from his blow and bb's closeness retconned him. He didnt even touch him.

Originally posted by Sirius77
He was supposed to be depowered. He was supposed to be a wraith. A ghost. But he still punched his way out of a dimension.

And he didnt even touch bb or bb would have died. The force from his blow and bb's closeness retconned him. He didnt even touch him.

I could be wrong but what I think quanchis trying to say is that SBP happened to be in a prison that was connected to reality but he was strong enough to break out of it. Since the prison was connected to reality this involved people getting retconned. However he would not be able to do this if he were just punching thin air.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I could be wrong but what I think quanchis trying to say is that SBP happened to be in a prison that was connected to reality but he was strong enough to break out of it. Since the prison was connected to reality this involved people getting retconned. However he would not be able to do this if he were just punching thin air.

The phantom zone isnt connected to reality. It's a dimension in itself. Thats why it only affects phantom zone residents. And in the phantom zone, he was just punching air. Even then, the retcon was cross dimensional. From the phantom zone to new earth. He doesnt need something to punch, he was relatively new to his powers at that point, so it was probably like riding a bike with training wheels, he doesnt need the training wheels to ride the bike, because it's possible either way. The same is true with him punching barriers and altering reality. The only difference here is that he was just punching air in the phantom zone.

Originally posted by Sirius77
What reason would he have to punch out of the new earth dimension? Again in this thread there wont be a paradise dimension or a phantom zone imprisonment so its a moot point.

Originally posted by Sirius77
The phantom zone isnt connected to reality. It's a dimension in itself. Thats why it only affects phantom zone residents. And in the phantom zone, he was just punching air. Even then, the retcon was cross dimensional. From the phantom zone to new earth. He doesnt need something to punch, he was relatively new to his powers at that point, so it was probably like riding a bike with training wheels, he doesnt need the training wheels to ride the bike, because it's possible either way. The same is true with him punching barriers and altering reality. The only difference here is that he was just punching air in the phantom zone. He cant retcon reality by punching air or another character.

Prime is a beast, not even Silver Surfer exploiting his weakness would win this.

Originally posted by Bentley
Prime is a beast, not even Silver Surfer exploiting his weakness would win this. Prime is a beast but with the teams combined efforts they win and capitalize with the Surfer exploiting Primes weaknesses.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again in this thread there wont be a paradise dimension or a phantom zone imprisonment so its a moot point.

He didnt need it with the phantom zone. He wont need it here.


Originally posted by quanchi112
He cant retcon reality by punching air or another character.

But the scans are right there... I thought you could read!?

Pwned.

Illiteracy ftw.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prime is a beast but with the teams combined efforts they win and capitalize with the Surfer exploiting Primes weaknesses.

No most get oneshotted. Others get three shotted at best.

Originally posted by Sirius77
He didnt need it with the phantom zone. He wont need it here.




But the scans are right there... I thought you could read!?

Pwned.

Illiteracy ftw.



No most get oneshotted. Others get three shotted at best. Again he isnt in the paradise place and he isnt in the phantom zone. cant you read?



Prime gets blasted by red solar energy quickly depowering him while the others dogpile him.

SBP within 2 seconds

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
SBP within 2 seconds He couldnt defeat Superboy in 2 seconds.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again he isnt in the paradise place and he isnt in the phantom zone. cant you read?

Appearently you are illiterate. I should be nice. The phantom zone is three dimensional space. It has height, width, and depth. There is no wall to punch, but yet he punched through thin air into another dimension and retconned bb. I am at a loss to make it any clearer. I've posted the scans that said exactly what I am trying to prove, and explianed it to you.



Originally posted by quanchi112
Prime gets blasted by red solar energy quickly depowering him while the others dogpile him.

Depowering him? He was deprived of sunlight in sc, and had his solar suit ripped off, and then fought a being made of red sun energy. And owned him. Unless surfer can create an actual red sun in less time than it takes Superman-prime to speedblitz three flashes, and then find the strength to push Superman-prime, who pushes planets for fun into the red sun, then he cant do anything remotely resembling what you are talking about.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He couldnt defeat Superboy in 2 seconds.

It's sad that you have to debate with pis and jobbing.

Originally posted by Sirius77
It's sad that you have to debate with pis and jobbing. I debate with facts.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Appearently you are illiterate. I should be nice. The phantom zone is three dimensional space. It has height, width, and depth. There is no wall to punch, but yet he punched through thin air into another dimension and retconned bb. I am at a loss to make it any clearer. I've posted the scans that said exactly what I am trying to prove, and explianed it to you.





Depowering him? He was deprived of sunlight in sc, and had his solar suit ripped off, and then fought a being made of red sun energy. And owned him. Unless surfer can create an actual red sun in less time than it takes Superman-prime to speedblitz three flashes, and then find the strength to push Superman-prime, who pushes planets for fun into the red sun, then he cant do anything remotely resembling what you are talking about. he was in the phantom zone and when he broke free he retconned someone. Post a scan of him retconning someone just by punching him and not being in a prison of some sort.

Which being did he fight that was comprised of red solar energy?

Pushing planets is cool but Surfer can easily destroy planets which is much harder to do than to push something.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I debate with facts.

You debate with low showings of characters that you dont like.

Originally posted by quanchi112
he was in the phantom zone and when he broke free he retconned someone. Post a scan of him retconning someone just by punching him and not being in a prison of some sort.

The scan that I posted was more than sufficient.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Which being did he fight that was comprised of red solar energy?

Redstar.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Pushing planets is cool but Surfer can easily destroy planets which is much harder to do than to push something.

So you think that a being that can push planets cant destroy them

Originally posted by Sirius77
The scan that I posted was more than sufficient.



Redstar.



So you think that a being that can push planets cant destroy them Nope it was him breaking free of some trap.


Scans? What issue?


No I said pushing a planet is nowhere near as impressive as destroying one. So again why bring up something like that when it carries little weight.

Originally posted by Bentley
Prime is a beast, not even Silver Surfer exploiting his weakness would win this. Why not?..Superman did.
And Surfer can do it much more easily.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nope it was him breaking free of some trap.

The trap was another dimension


Originally posted by quanchi112
Scans? What issue?

"Tales of the Sinestro Corps: Superman-prime"

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs7.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs8.jpg


Originally posted by quanchi112
No I said pushing a planet is nowhere near as impressive as destroying one. So again why bring up something like that when it carries little weight.

So then if you agree that someone that can push a planet can destroy one, then why say one is better if Superman-prime can do both? Double standard

Originally posted by Sirius77
The phantom zone isnt connected to reality. It's a dimension in itself. Thats why it only affects phantom zone residents. And in the phantom zone, he was just punching air. Even then, the retcon was cross dimensional. From the phantom zone to new earth. He doesnt need something to punch, he was relatively new to his powers at that point, so it was probably like riding a bike with training wheels, he doesnt need the training wheels to ride the bike, because it's possible either way. The same is true with him punching barriers and altering reality. The only difference here is that he was just punching air in the phantom zone.

Yes but the thing is events got retconned due to him breaking out of the phantom zone, not by him being on earth or outerspace punching at nothing or somebody.

SBP wins everytime

Originally posted by Sirius77
The trap was another dimension




"Tales of the Sinestro Corps: Superman-prime"

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs7.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs8.jpg




So then if you agree that someone that can push a planet can destroy one, then why say one is better if Superman-prime can do both? Double standard Yes bu he cant retcon without the trap. Its my whole point.


Ok. He isnt defeating surfer this easily though. Plus didnt Prime have his suit on? He has no suit here.

If SBP could punch say ..."nothing" and change reality that sounds like a brand new power on par with MJJ. Hmmm how can i put this eloquently.... shenanigans! Why bother fighting anyone if he could just change everything with a fist pump on mid air. Blahhh

Originally posted by Lord Feron
If SBP could punch say ..."nothing" and change reality that sounds like a brand new power on par with MJJ. Hmmm how can i put this eloquently.... shenanigans! Why bother fighting anyone if he could just change everything with a fist pump on mid air. Blahhh Exactly. He only accomplished it due to the circumstances involved.

If he could actually retconned punch reality without any circumtances; Wouldnt it make sense for him to have already retconned prime Earth back and save himself all this trouble, I mean its all he ever wanted all along ...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes bu he cant retcon without the trap. Its my whole point.


Ok. He isnt defeating surfer this easily though. Plus didnt Prime have his suit on? He has no suit here.


The phantom zone is a dimension. In the phantom zone, he was punching air.

Yes, he is. And his suit has nothing to do with Superman-primes strength. He wears it when he is weak. So when red star ripped it off, he got weaker. The red sun energy weakened him further.

Originally posted by Roldz
If he could actually retconned punch reality without any circumtances; Wouldnt it make sense for him to have already retconned prime Earth back and save himself all this trouble, I mean its all he ever wanted all along ...

Why would he be able to control it? I doubt he even knows what he can really do. He hadnt used his powers since the crisis

Yet, how is that everyone sent there seems to put there hands on something like glass while looking out? Their face and body seems to press against something. So no, it's not just punching air IMO. He and Superman seemed to be punching barrier boundaries, which seemed to be pretty solid. Seeing as how their hands bled.

Originally posted by Sirius77
The phantom zone is a dimension. In the phantom zone, he was punching air.

Yes, he is. And his suit has nothing to do with Superman-primes strength. He wears it when he is weak. So when red star ripped it off, he got weaker. The red sun energy weakened him further. Exactly he gets weakened. Surfer and this team will do much more damage here. Surfer is excellent wit these types of matters and wont be getting his arm ripped off.




Phantom zone was a prison that he broke out of. Thats the difference. He had never just thrown a punch and hit air and retconned anything.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Why would he be able to control it? I doubt he even knows what he can really do. He hadnt used his powers since the crisis The retcons happened because of the circumtances and what he punched.

Originally posted by G-Mafia
Yet, how is that everyone sent there seems to put there hands on something like glass while looking out? Their face and body seems to press against something. So no, it's not just punching air IMO. He and Superman seemed to be punching barrier boundaries, which seemed to be pretty solid. Seeing as how their hands bled.

good post, I was just about to say this. Why is people using pushing planets when gladiator has pushed a meteor the size of 2 earths.

Originally posted by carver9
good post, I was just about to say this. Why is people using pushing planets when gladiator has pushed a meteor the size of 2 earths. Believe me I understand completely.

Dear God stop the SBP Wanking. He can't just alter Reality with his punches. He only did it due to specific circumstances. I understand you like SBP and want him to have this uber, retcon, reality-alternating power. But cut the crap and stop twisting the evidence to prove it

Originally posted by moonknight11
Dear God stop the SBP Wanking. He can't just alter Reality with his punches. He only did it due to specific circumstances. I understand you like SBP and want him to have this uber, retcon, reality-alternating power. But cut the crap and stop twisting the evidence to prove it I also love Prime but agree 100 percent here.

Originally posted by moonknight11
Dear God stop the SBP Wanking. He can't just alter Reality with his punches. He only did it due to specific circumstances. I understand you like SBP and want him to have this uber, retcon, reality-alternating power. But cut the crap and stop twisting the evidence to prove it

Clearly you do not understand what Prime did. Busting out of the phantom zone the way he did is supposed to be impossible. Even PC Supes never did that. If breaking out of the phantom zone isn't reality warping, (and any knowledgable DC fan will tell you it is), then you're clearly not reading the same comic.

Now, maybe he can only retcon when he's busting a dimensional barrier. Ok. But the sheer power required to do that is monstrous. Only person in marvel who I can think of that breaks dimensional barriers with physical force, is Trion Juggernaut.

I liked him in IC. Especially when he is stomping the hell out of the Teen Titans.

Let's see: Teen Titans, JLA, GLC, Sin Corp, Monarch's army, various multiverse versions of the JLA and assorted teams, " " " Supermen, Monarch, Monitors, and upcoming in Legion of 3 Worlds, 3 versions of the LSH and possibly Pre-Crisis Superman.

That's got to be one of the best resumes in ass-kicking in comics.

You didn't even mention Mxy.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Clearly you do not understand what Prime did. Busting out of the phantom zone the way he did is supposed to be impossible. Even PC Supes never did that. If breaking out of the phantom zone isn't reality warping, (and any knowledgable DC fan will tell you it is), then you're clearly not reading the same comic.

Now, maybe he can only retcon when he's busting a dimensional barrier. Ok. But the sheer power required to do that is monstrous. Only person in marvel who I can think of that breaks dimensional barriers with physical force, is Trion Juggernaut. The point is he cant retcon reality without the phantom dimension or the paradise wall. No one is saying it isnt impressive but we are saying he cant retcon dc reality without these circumstances.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Let's see: Teen Titans, JLA, GLC, Sin Corp, Monarch's army, various multiverse versions of the JLA and assorted teams, " " " Supermen, Monarch, Monitors, and upcoming in Legion of 3 Worlds, 3 versions of the LSH and possibly Pre-Crisis Superman.

That's got to be one of the best resumes in ass-kicking in comics. He beat the Monitors,mulitverse characters,Monarch but also was amped by a Guardian. We cant speculate what he will do in legion although I do hope he reeks havoc.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
You didn't even mention Mxy. Annataz depowered him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Annataz depowered him. After SMP snatched his ass and brought him to the Wall.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
After SMP snatched his ass and brought him to the Wall. Team effort but soon as she returned his powers he left. he was powerless there as a result of the both of them but mainly Annataz as her magic depowered him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Team effort but soon as she returned his powers he left. he was powerless there as a result of the both of them but mainly Annataz as her magic depowered him. And Mxy also straight up said IF HE WERE UP TO IT, he would go back there and turn him inside out, but instead ran.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
And Mxy also straight up said IF HE WERE UP TO IT, he would go back there and turn him inside out, but instead ran. Meaning he could if he were up to it. He wasnt so he didnt. A bad showing for Mzy Ill agree but Prime cant beat him on his own.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Clearly you do not understand what Prime did. Busting out of the phantom zone the way he did is supposed to be impossible. Even PC Supes never did that. If breaking out of the phantom zone isn't reality warping, (and any knowledgable DC fan will tell you it is), then you're clearly not reading the same comic.

Now, maybe he can only retcon when he's busting a dimensional barrier. Ok. But the sheer power required to do that is monstrous. Only person in marvel who I can think of that breaks dimensional barriers with physical force, is Trion Juggernaut.


You forget Hulk

Originally posted by quanchi112
Meaning he could if he were up to it. He wasnt so he didnt. A bad showing for Mzy Ill agree but Prime cant beat him on his own. Yeah, he was not up to it, and went back home and cried to his girlfriend. He was snatched by Prime without Zannataz, whose only real purpose was to keep him from escaping.

Now don't get me wrong, Mxy was much more powerful than SMP, but with the amp, all of SMP's powers increased to gigantic levels, including magic resistance. Now, what Mxy uses has either been retconned to magic, or maybe it functions like magic on 3D beings. But that is the only reason why SMP was able to beat his ass.