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With there combined skills & experience could they defeat Ultimate Colossus & Thing. Standard equipment and no prep.

Ultimate Thing- http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thing_%28Ultimate%29

&

Ultimate Colossus- http://www.marvel.com/universe/Colossus_%28Ultimate%29

vs

Team
Wolverine
Spider-Man
Ultimate Captain America
Batman
Upgraded Sabretooth
Daredevil

Wolverine solos

As we've seen a regular strength human can take Ult Colossus out a fight just by pressing down on his eyes, but without any prep the members of the team probably wouldn't know this. hmm
If Batman has some sonic devices on him they could be used to take Colossus down.

But Thing & Colossus take the majority I think.

Wolverine and Sabretooth could take it

Originally posted by llagrok
Wolverine and Sabretooth could take it


Have you read anything with Ult Colossus in it? I'm not a Colossus fan but I have to side with him, he survived a localized nuclear explosion from one of Hawkeye's arrows and dragged a submarine from the depths of the ocean

Thing and Colossus. Probably not with a ton of difficulty. They're in a whole different class from the other team.

Originally posted by The Pict

Have you read anything with Ult Colossus in it? I'm not a Colossus fan but I have to side with him, he survived a localized nuclear explosion from one of Hawkeye's arrows and dragged a submarine from the depths of the ocean

Won't save him from Wolverine's adamantium claws.

Originally posted by llagrok
Won't save him from Wolverine's adamantium claws.

Oh I think it will

Originally posted by The Pict
Oh I think it will

Really? Because all Wolverine has to do, is cut him once in the face.

Guys like Wolverine and Sabretooth walk all over bricks.

Non-Hulk bricks that is.

Originally posted by llagrok
Really? Because all Wolverine has to do, is cut him once in the face.

Guys like Wolverine and Sabretooth walk all over bricks.

I doubt the Adamantium will pierce his skin. And Colossus beat the crap out of Ult Thor, who is far more powerful than Wolverine.

Originally posted by The Pict
I doubt the Adamantium will pierce his skin. And Colossus beat the crap out of Ult Thor, who is far more powerful than Wolverine.

He didn't beat the crap out of Thor, apparently Colossus and Wolverine beat him off panel.

That's ridiculous either way.

Originally posted by llagrok
He didn't beat the crap out of Thor, apparently Colossus and Wolverine beat him off panel.

That's ridiculous either way.

It was Colossus by himself, Hawkeye said he'd spent the last ten minutes kicking the crapout of Thor and there was a panel or two showing it.
I'm sure Wolverine was confronting Captain America while Colossus and Thor were fighting.

And I agree it's ridiculous but it happened in the comic. Ult Thor is weaker than his 616 counterpart though srug

Originally posted by The Pict
It was Colossus by himself, Hawkeye said he'd spent the last ten minutes kicking the crapout of Thor and there was a panel or two showing it.
I'm sure Wolverine was confronting Captain America while Colossus and Thor were fighting.

And I agree it's ridiculous but it happened in the comic. Ult Thor is weaker than his 616 counterpart though srug

If Thor had given his all, he would at least have used lightning.

Originally posted by llagrok
Won't save him from Wolverine's adamantium claws.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Ultimate%20Colossus/UltimateColossus.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20durablity/ColossustakingWolverinedown.jpg

Both Ult Colossus and Ult Thing are strong enough to tear Ult Wolvie in half just like Ult Hulk did.

Ult Ben and Ult Piotr FTW they are just too much to handle.

Team via Wolverine's claw.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Team via Wolverine's claw.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Ultimate%20Colossus/UltimateColossus.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20durablity/ColossustakingWolverinedown.jpg

Originally posted by llagrok
Wolverine and Sabretooth could take it

lol...

Originally posted by The Pict

Have you read anything with Ult Colossus in it? I'm not a Colossus fan but I have to side with him, he survived a localized nuclear explosion from one of Hawkeye's arrows and dragged a submarine from the depths of the ocean

Adamantium is Gods toilet paper - it can take alot of shit

wolverine soloes because he can stand toe 2 toe with hulk..and hulk pwns these 2.


(do i pass the wolverine fanboy test).

imo - Batman, one shotted DD, one shotted, CapUSA 2 shotted.

Spidey/Wolvie/Tooth vs Grimm n Colly - if they are vulnrable to Adamantium, then team 2 can pull off 3/10 but for the majority - they become K to the IzzO'ed.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Adamantium is Gods toilet paper - it can take alot of shit

wolverine soloes because he can stand toe 2 toe with hulk..and hulk pwns these 2.


(do i pass the wolverine fanboy test).

imo - Batman, one shotted DD, one shotted, CapUSA 2 shotted.

Spidey/Wolvie/Tooth vs Grimm n Colly - if they are vulnrable to Adamantium, then team 2 can pull off 3/10 but for the majority - they become K to the IzzO'ed.


.....What?

Originally posted by llagrok
If Thor had given his all, he would at least have used lightning. He had no reason to sit there and take a @ss beating. I'm certain it wasn't part of his plan to get his clock cleaned by Colossus.

Originally posted by The Pict

Have you read anything with Ult Colossus in it? I'm not a Colossus fan but I have to side with him, he survived a localized nuclear explosion from one of Hawkeye's arrows and dragged a submarine from the depths of the ocean He also overpowered Magneto's magnetic field and stopped a massive speeding train dead in it's tracks without even flinching.

Now that I think about it Thor's hammer looked like it was charged when Colossus was smashing him into the ground. Could be wrong though.

Ult. Colossus and Thing FTW.

Originally posted by The Pict
As we've seen a regular strength human can take Ult Colossus out a fight just by pressing down on his eyes, but without any prep the members of the team probably wouldn't know this. hmm
If Batman has some sonic devices on him they could be used to take Colossus down.

But Thing & Colossus take the majority I think.

If were talking about ultimate Wolverine then Ultimate Wolverine takes the cake being the Wolverine is now the first Mutant in the Ultimate Universe.
Wolverine has survived his arms being torn off, legs being hurled 2 miles away etc.

Ultimate Cap is also formiadable, More powerful than the mainstream cap using guns etc.. He is stronger than 616 Cap, took down the russian version of cap, took down Ult wolverine, held his own for a while against Ult hulk.

Ultimate Sabertooth has his head cut off and survived....

The rest are just overkill

Originally posted by darth fury
If were talking about ultimate Wolverine then Ultimate Wolverine takes the cake being the Wolverine is now the first Mutant in the Ultimate Universe.
Wolverine has survived his arms being torn off, legs being hurled 2 miles away etc.

Ultimate Cap is also formiadable, More powerful than the mainstream cap using guns etc.. He is stronger than 616 Cap, took down the russian version of cap, took down Ult wolverine, held his own for a while against Ult hulk.

Ultimate Sabertooth has his head cut off and survived....

The rest are just overkill

None of those feats match what Colossus has done.

Thing is just overkill....313

Okay to seriously address your points (which probably doesn't matter as I don't think these are Ult characters besides Cap)

1Wolverine "takes the cake" by being the first mutant in the Ult Verse......how?

2Sure he has survived that doesn't mean he's more powerful, just means Colossus or Thing can tear his arms off and throw his limbs two miles away from his body!

3Using guns makes him more powerful than 616 Cap? News to me, and the bullets will penetrate someone who survived a small nuclear explosion will they?

4Russian version of Cap is as powerful as Thing or Colossus is he? Nope, he was beaten fairly quickly. I'm sure he was locked up for several years and had a shield made of bone and skin.
He didn't beat Hulk though did he, so it's hardly a big enough feat to make a case in this fight.

5Sabretooth's head wasn't completely severed, he tells Wolverine this because that's how he survived....not sure how this helps him though.

Originally posted by The Pict
None of those feats match what Colossus has done.

Thing is just overkill....313

Okay to seriously address your points (which probably doesn't matter as I don't think these are Ult characters besides Cap)

1Wolverine "takes the cake" by being the first mutant in the Ult Verse......how?

2Sure he has survived that doesn't mean he's more powerful, just means Colossus or Thing can tear his arms off and throw his limbs two miles away from his body!

3Using guns makes him more powerful than 616 Cap? News to me, and the bullets will penetrate someone who survived a small nuclear explosion will they?

4Russian version of Cap is as powerful as Thing or Colossus is he? Nope, he was beaten fairly quickly. I'm sure he was locked up for several years and had a shield made of bone and skin.
He didn't beat Hulk though did he, so it's hardly a big enough feat to make a case in this fight.

5Sabretooth's head wasn't completely severed, he tells Wolverine this because that's how he survived....not sure how this helps him though.

1. Ulitmate Origins #1 just out read it *spoiler* Mutants were created by the weapon X program... they created the X gene and wanted it to spread to start an entire race of super people... wolverine is the first*spoiler*

2. True, but it shows how hard it is to kill him and the Hulk is more powerful than Collosus and Thing in the Ult. Universe the entire ultimates coudln't take him down. Wasp had to enter him brain and sting him to take him down and Wolverine can cut through Collosus skin, il find the scan somewhere i've got the every comics from the ult. universe (if you want a an issue just PM me and il try and il use an image host to send them to you?)

3. Just as you said, just because he survived the nuke doesn't mean he's more pwoerful

4. True but He was in a stalemate with Heir Kaiser who's strength and durability proberbly surpasses Collosus's.

5. His head was held on by a SINGLE thread..... and he managed to heal from that... pretty impressive by anyones standards.. again i have the scan somewhere

that scan of colossus being cut was a danger room scenario, if its the one i'm thinking of...

when they actually did try, all that happened was logan causing sparks on colossus' skin...

Originally posted by Raoul
that scan of colossus being cut was a danger room scenario, if its the one i'm thinking of...

when they actually did try, all that happened was logan causing sparks on colossus' skin...

hmm yes it might be let me try and find the scan.... but it is stated several times in the opening issues of ult. X-men that wolverine is the most dangerous mutant on earth

Originally posted by darth fury
1. Ulitmate Origins #1 just out read it *spoiler* Mutants were created by the weapon X program... they created the X gene and wanted it to spread to start an entire race of super people... wolverine is the first*spoiler*

2. True, but it shows how hard it is to kill him and the Hulk is more powerful than Collosus and Thing in the Ult. Universe the entire ultimates coudln't take him down. Wasp had to enter him brain and sting him to take him down and Wolverine can cut through Collosus skin, il find the scan somewhere i've got the every comics from the ult. universe (if you want a an issue just PM me and il try and il use an image host to send them to you?)

3. Just as you said, just because he survived the nuke doesn't mean he's more pwoerful

4. True but He was in a stalemate with Heir Kaiser who's strength and durability proberbly surpasses Collosus's.

5. His head was held on by a SINGLE thread..... and he managed to heal from that... pretty impressive by anyones standards.. again i have the scan somewhere

I'm off to work so I don't have the time to properly respond to every point. However you're wrong on almost every retort here:

It's NOT Ult Wolverine not that it matters if he's "mutant zero" or not,
Ult Wolverine HASN'T Cut through Ult Colossus's skin,

I don't need to PM you for issues, everything I'm saying or the points I'm making are based on what I've read. Apart from Ult FF I've read pretty much everything in the Ult Universe.

Surviving a nuke doesn't make him more powerful than who? Ultimate Cap?? I think it does

Originally posted by darth fury
hmm yes it might be let me try and find the scan.... but it is stated several times in the opening issues of ult. X-men that wolverine is the most dangerous mutant on earth

they say the same in 616, doesnt mean he can't be taken down...

Originally posted by darth fury
X-men that wolverine is the most dangerous mutant on earth

And he's repeatedly had his @ss kicked, Cyclops took him out with a single shot after coming back from the Savage Land.

Jean knocked him out when he was trying to kill someone from Weapon X in they're very first encounter.

Magneto immoblized him along with the rest of the X-Men until ULT COLOSSUS GOT UP AND KNOCKED MAGENTO AROUND, NO ONE ELSE HAD THE STRENGTH OR THE WILL TO DO SO.

I could go on but it's not Ult Wolverine

Originally posted by The Pict
I'm off to work so I don't have the time to properly respond to every point. However you're wrong on almost every retort here:

It's NOT Ult Wolverine not that it matters if he's "mutant zero" or not,
Ult Wolverine HASN'T Cut through Ult Colossus's skin,

I don't need to PM you for issues, everything I'm saying or the points I'm making are based on what I've read. Apart from Ult FF I've read pretty much everything in the Ult Universe.

Surviving a nuke doesn't make him more powerful than who? Ultimate Cap?? I think it does

ooo ok. it not ult. wolverine my mistake

Originally posted by darth fury
It makes him more durable after which he incapacitated.....

and it WAS ult. wolverine... James Howlett is his name.

No in THIS fight it's 616 Wolverine. In the list of team members only Captain America is mentioned as being from the Ultimate verse.

I'm off to work, I'll come back to this later.

Originally posted by The Pict
No in THIS fight it's 616 Wolverine. In the list of team members only Captain America is mentioned as being from the Ultimate verse.

I'm off to work, I'll come back to this later.

no no i edited my post i was under the impression the entire team was ultimate

Originally posted by The Pict
I'm off to work so I don't have the time to properly respond to every point. However you're wrong on almost every retort here:

It's NOT Ult Wolverine not that it matters if he's "mutant zero" or not,
Ult Wolverine HASN'T Cut through Ult Colossus's skin,

I don't need to PM you for issues, everything I'm saying or the points I'm making are based on what I've read. Apart from Ult FF I've read pretty much everything in the Ult Universe.

Surviving a nuke doesn't make him more powerful than who? Ultimate Cap?? I think it does

I wasn'tt insulting you knowledge.. i was simple asking if you wanted to read some issues that you may have missed... i might not agree with you who wins but the ultimate universe has some great storylines i just asked if you wanted to read some but evidently you already have....

ultimate colosuss is nothing to be played with, he solos them

Ulti colossus gives some of his drugs to the Thing and they both go on a druggy rage ftw.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Ulti colossus gives some of his drugs to the Thing and they both go on a druggy rage ftw.

O shit i totally forgot about the drugs.... and i thought it only help mutants.... it makes a mutant almost like a GOD i think if i read the issue right?

Colossus can't even lift his arms without it LOL

Originally posted by darth fury
O shit i totally forgot about the drugs.... and i thought it only help mutants.... it makes a mutant almost like a GOD i think if i read the issue right?

Colossus can't even lift his arms without it LOL

well humans use it as a drug and get temp powers, mutants who have powers go up in level or as stated in the comic "GOD" levels.

so i think the thing could use it.

if you think back to the FF president Thor story where everyone had gained super powers the fantastic four oddly enough got the same powers they got from their accident. so its not to far fetched to assume if they were mutants their power-sets would be the same. it seems to just be the potential their bodies have. so the thing might become god-like with the drug. maybe gain control over earth? like avalanche or terra. not to mention the obvious strength increase.

hope that made sense lol

Originally posted by SevenShackles
well humans use it as a drug and get temp powers, mutants who have powers go up in level or as stated in the comic "GOD" levels.

so i think the thing could use it.

if you think back to the FF president Thor story where everyone had gained super powers the fantastic four oddly enough got the same powers they got from their accident. so its not to far fetched to assume if they were mutants their power-sets would be the same. it seems to just be the potential their bodies have. so the thing might become god-like with the drug. maybe gain control over earth? like avalanche or terra. not to mention the obvious strength increase.

hope that made sense lol


It's called Mutant Growth Hormone so i'm assuming while it would give The thing Temporary powers they wouldn't be the same as his existing ones. Dazzlers says that it gives Flight, Invisibility to humans and doesn't mention any others so it's extent toward Humans is unknown. It does give Mutants GOD like powers thought.

Then no drugs if it in fact gives mutants godlike powers that would make this a spite thread.

Originally posted by golem370
Then no drugs if it in fact gives mutants godlike powers that would make this a spite thread.

LOL if Colossus has no drugs then it would just be the Thing vs Team....

He'd HAVE to fight in his human form

What about Colossus before he started using the drugs.

Originally posted by golem370
What about Colossus before he started using the drugs.

He has been taking drugs since he was 12 i think...... so basically his entire run during UXM is with the drugs.

i'm pissed about ult colossus fans , turns out he has no superstrength he uses a drug that gives him strength , he is just durable lol , without the drug he could not even lift his arms

wolverine coudl take the drug and end up with same strength level

Well then two senarios one with Ultimate Colossus and two with (616) Colossus

Originally posted by golem370
Well then two senarios one with Ultimate Colossus and two with (616) Colossus

Ult. Colossus feat are better than the 616 versions so it's really moot but even with the drug i think the team would beat him anyway.

616 isn't that far behind, though... he's had some very nice feats since he returned from the dead...

Ultimate Cap vs Black Panther

http://img208.imagevenue.com/loc383/th_94664_Ultimate_Captain_America_Annual_01_1Zone-Megan4_pg13_122_383lo.jpg http://img249.imagevenue.com/loc499/th_95260_Ultimate_Captain_America_Annual_01_7Zone-Megan8_pg14-15_122_499lo.jpg http://img250.imagevenue.com/loc150/th_96185_Ultimate_Captain_America_Annual_01_6Zone-Megan3_pg16_122_150lo.jpg http://img168.imagevenue.com/loc758/th_98230_Ultimate_Captain_America_Annual_01_5Zone-Megan3_pg17_122_758lo.jpg http://img224.imagevenue.com/loc512/th_99929_Ultimate_Captain_America_Annual_01_2Zone-Megan4_pg18_122_512lo.jpg

IDK. U.C is a beast.

Colos Solos