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"The Apprentice is the photo negative of Luke Skywalker. He's been raised by Darth Vader, and is what Luke would have become if he had joined his father. Vader's not a very nice daddy. This guy has been raised to be a Jedi. When the Jedi use the Force, they respect it and don't overuse it. The bad guys - the Sith - keep testing their limits. Vader discovered this person who had the potential to be the most powerful Force user ever. He's up there with the top tier. He's extremely powerful. Vader has trained him in such a way that he just kept pushing his limitations, seeing how far he could use the Force. So, where a normal Jedi might use the Force to trick his way past a few stormtroopers, the apprentice might use the Force to bring down an adjacent building on top of those stormtroopers. He's extremely confident in everything he does. He's been trained by Vader to be an assassin, an unstoppable force."
―Haden Blackman

From the new star wars game Force Unleased, they obtained permission from George Lucus to create this character so i'm assuming it's canon.

The key is taking this information with a grain of salt; clearly the Apprentice isn't "unstoppable" in the literal sense as he is no match for Vader and certainly not the Emperor, nor do I believe that Blackman can objectively state that the Apprentice's potential exceeds that of every other Force user and he could have been "the most powerful Force user ever" . However, from the vast powers he has demonstrated, I wouldn't hesitate to agree that the Apprentice is top tier and among the most powerful ever.

Is his name really Starkiller?

He's without question the most powerful Force User of his era, though I see no reason to believe he's among the most powerful Sith ever.

Originally posted by HomoSuperior
He's without question the most powerful Force User of his era, though I see no reason to believe he's among the most powerful Sith ever.

His era would still involve Palpatine and Vader who were still more powerful than him. The creator of the game has no authority to make wild claims about the secret apprentice.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
His era would still involve Palpatine and Vader who were still more powerful than him. The creator of the game has no authority to make wild claims about the secret apprentice.

exactly.

People are making the Apprentice into some uber force god like NJO luke but we won't know just how powerful he is until the novel is released.

While Starkiller is possibly a very powerful Sith, I seriously doubt that George Lucas is going to let a young, not even 'legal' Sith surpass Vader and certainly not surpass Sidious; well, obiviously, he's powerful- seeing as Vader raised him to be the perfect weapon with which he could overthrow Sidious- but the only feat (so far) that makes him 'impressive' is pulling a Star Destroyer from out of orbit. Now then, that feat was matched multiple times- like when Nihilus pulled the Ravager out of Malachor V's gravity, and when Sidious had possibly lifted the Lusankya, but nevertheless, it's a powerful feat. Also, if Shaak Ti is indeed a boss and Starkiller kills her, then that will place his lightsaber skills at fairly high, knowing Shaak Ti is considered to be a fairly powerful Jedi.

Then again, there's the possibility that this another example of the 'unleashed' aspect of this game; as mentioned by the game developers, every other character will get unleashed. Also, in a response to a question if Starkiller is the most powerful force user in history, the developer could only say 'pretty powerful'; which would imply he's rather unaware of Starkiller's status among the other force users.

However, this statement made by Blackman is fairly ridiculous; I mean, man, Anakin is supposed to be the top guy; as the chosen one, he was supposed to be the guy who had the potential to be the strongest guy in history. Until we get a clear statement from him, Starkiller's power is still open to debate.

I'm expecting him to be a Maul-type character; fanatically loyal to his master, dark sort of assassin. He'll probably be rather powerful, but I doubt GL will let him surpass the top Sith of the movies- that is, Dooku, Sidious, and Vader. Maybe he'll surpass Maul; at least in force powers, that seems to be the case.

wasn't the name "starkiller" initially supposed to be that of luke skywalker anyway?

I don't like it... Not very original.

Great.

It's Darth Revan all over again...

While certainly above average, I wouldn't rank him with powerhouses like Sidious, Vader, Nihilus, or Caedus.

Wow. Starkiller is such a corny decision for obvious reasons.

Originally posted by City Hunter
Great.

It's Darth Revan all over again...

No. It is far too early to begin to compare the two characters. Darth Revan is what fanon refer to as a Gary Stu -- a personage presented with extremely few flaws or weaknesses .

Extremely powerful warrior? Check.
Extremely capable tactition? Check.
Extremely charismatic leader? Check.
Extremely talented pilot? Check.
Extremely talented linguist? Check.
Unparalleled Force aptitude? Check.

The apprentice?

Extremely powerful warrior? Check.

That's it. We already know he's a pawn in Vader's game. He's hardly a Gary Stu and therefore isn't a pile of shit in terms of characterization, like Revan is.

How much of a pawn he is, however, is debatable. He has already been portrayed as an undecisive character, who will eventually rebel Vader and his beliefs (I believe that's canon, not sure). I wouldn't exactly call him a pawn, at least not following the exact meaning of the word. An absolute pawn character, in my book, would be Darth Maul. He's more like a very valuable tool for Vader.

Big difference between Revan and "starkiller" is that the latter will actually have his own book so there will be less speculation and we know more facts/how feats were accomplished that could hardly be stretched as certain people have done here for Revan if you know what I mean.

that's why they need a book about Revan pre kotor during kotor and post kotor

Personally, I don't like Revan as a character.

But I do agree we need to know more about him.

I take from this game he's the perfect assassin, but by no means rivals Palpatine or Vader. Doing so would frankly contradict like.......... everything else.

Well, if he was such a badass pilot, I don't think he'd be having some non force sensitive chick flying him around.

Bendak Starkiller isn't even a jedi or a sith. He's a retired mandalorian duelist on taris.

If Karen Traviss writes the Force Unleashed novel, she'll no doubt tell everyone how Starkiller is connected to Bendak Starkiller, who was force sensitive and was the strongest person in the KotOR timeline. However, if she doesn't, they'll probably prove to be unrelated.

Anywayz, Starkiller has potential to be badass. Unless they screw him up like they did Revan, he's going to be a Maul-type character. Extremely badass.

Bendak Starkiller was a retired Mandalorian assh*le, was not the strongest person in the KOTOR timeline, and was not force sensitive...

And I really doubt he'll be anything like Maul.

Starkiller was going to be Luke's last name. Of course the EU had to take it because of how creative they are....

lol

Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
Bendak Starkiller was a retired Mandalorian assh*le, was not the strongest person in the KOTOR timeline, and was not force sensitive...

Unless Karen Traviss writes the novel.

I should have seen this coming, the name of the Apprentice being Starkiller...

So much for the last name of my RPG character. shrug

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Bendak Starkiller isn't even a jedi or a sith. He's a retired mandalorian duelist on taris.

the character off force unleased is who were talking about ..... they named him starkiller

Originally posted by Captain REX
I should have seen this coming, the name of the Apprentice being Starkiller...

So much for the last name of my RPG character. shrug

Yeah, it suckz indeed.

Originally posted by darth fury
the character off force unleased is who were talking about ..... they named him starkiller

YAY!!! mandalorian roots!

... but that totally sucks.

wrong. it totally pwnz.
Thoraxe. I found your youtube totally on accident lolz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfKwzBMjxYw&eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=into%20the%20deathstar&gbv=2&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iv

Starkiller is actually quite a badass name. But it doesn't sound very... Sith...

it doesnt? stars are the source for all life. To kill one... especially if you ever watcehd andromeda

Originally posted by Blue_Hefner
Is his name really Starkiller?

Wasn't "Starkiller" the name that was originally going to be used instead of "Skywalker" for Luke back when ANH was made?

Yup, it is, which shows us how creative and original EU writers are.

Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
Yup, it is, which shows us how creative and original EU writers are.

You forget that this entire multimedia project was designed closely at the behest of George Lucas. "Starkiller" might have been a name assigned to them or merely to page homage to the original Luke Skywalker.

Hmm... It's possibly to page homage to the original Luke, in that case.

Well, he is supposed to be similar to what Luke had been had he joined Vader; so, I suppose the name does fit.

padme had triplets and was only told she had two in case she survived adn wanted all her babies by her side during the reign of the empire. THe "I am your father moment" is when vader reveals that he is starkiller's father...

Originally posted by Sidi-Boy
Well, he is supposed to be similar to what Luke had been had he joined Vader; so, I suppose the name does fit.

I agree. It DOES fit if that's the case.

well in the first edition/ideas of star wars it was going to be a good father versus evil twins. But it was the baby boom era so they changed it.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
well in the first edition/ideas of star wars it was going to be a good father versus evil twins. But it was the baby boom era so they changed it.

*Luke cuts off Vader's hand*

Luke: Join me...
Vader: I will never join you! You killed my son!
Luke: No, Vader. I am your son.
Vader: Nooooo!!! This is impossible!!!!

*A year later*

Vader: "I will not fight you, son. I know there is still good in you."
Luke: "There is no good."
Vader: "I sense the conflict within you..."
Luke: "No... you will join me. It is your desinty. If you will not joni me, then perhaps... perhaps... oh, screw it."

*Vader gets owned*

As you see, a much better Star Wars.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME!

maybe the jedi could have been evil and the sith could have been good ccording to the original idea?

No.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
maybe the jedi could have been evil and the sith could have been good ccording to the original idea?

*Darth Maul, Dooku, Asajj Ventress, and Darth Sidious arrives at Yoda's meditation chamber*

Yoda: Destroyed, Grievous is?
Sidious: In the name of the powa of the dark side, you are under arrest. Grandmaster. *lightsabers ignited*
Yoda: Threatening me, you are?
Sidious: The senate won't decide your fate.
Yoda: I'm not the senate.
*leaps at them, killing all but Sidious in one second*
Sidious eventually disarms Yoda, causing Yoda to be on the ledge once again. Anakin arrives at the room to see his old mentor cornering the Jedi grandmaster.
Yoda: Anakin, stop him, a traitor he is!
Sidious: The unlimiter powwwaaa of the dark side is too great for you,
Yoda: No, no, no, no LOST YOU HAVE!!! *Force lightning's Sidious*
Yoda: The power to save the ones you love, I have... choose you must...
Sidious: Don't listen to him Anakin... urgh...
Yoda: *Is disfigured*
Sidious: Now, Yoda... you will die. *Swings lightsaber at Yoda*
Anakin: NOOOO!!!!!!!!
*Sidious gets hand chopped off*
Sidious: Urkrkkkrkrkrr.....
Yoda: POWER!!!111!! Unlimited, my power is!!!!

*Later on*

*Anakin and Obi-Wan duel*

Obi-Wan: I have failed you, Anakin. I have failed you.
Anakin: I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THE SITH WERE TRYING TO TAKE OVER!
Obi-Wan: Anakin, Master Yoda is evil!
Anakin: From my point of view, the Sith are evil!
Obi-Wan: Well then, you are lost!}

*And so, Darth Yoda ruled the galaxy until he was accidentally crushed by Vader when Vader mistook him for his long-lost muppet and crushed him in a bear hug. *

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
wrong. it totally pwnz.
Thoraxe. I found your youtube totally on accident lolz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfKwzBMjxYw&eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=into%20the%20deathstar&gbv=2&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iv

Holy shit, I forgot about that!.
Anyways, I'm beginning to hate this character even more.

Originally posted by Sidi-Boy
*Darth Maul, Dooku, Asajj Ventress, and Darth Sidious arrives at Yoda's meditation chamber*

Yoda: Destroyed, Grievous is?
Sidious: In the name of the powa of the dark side, you are under arrest. Grandmaster. *lightsabers ignited*
Yoda: Threatening me, you are?
Sidious: The senate won't decide your fate.
Yoda: I'm not the senate.
*leaps at them, killing all but Sidious in one second*
Sidious eventually disarms Yoda, causing Yoda to be on the ledge once again. Anakin arrives at the room to see his old mentor cornering the Jedi grandmaster.
Yoda: Anakin, stop him, a traitor he is!
Sidious: The unlimiter powwwaaa of the dark side is too great for you,
Yoda: No, no, no, no LOST YOU HAVE!!! *Force lightning's Sidious*
Yoda: The power to save the ones you love, I have... choose you must...
Sidious: Don't listen to him Anakin... urgh...
Yoda: *Is disfigured*
Sidious: Now, Yoda... you will die. *Swings lightsaber at Yoda*
Anakin: NOOOO!!!!!!!!
*Sidious gets hand chopped off*
Sidious: Urkrkkkrkrkrr.....
Yoda: POWER!!!111!! Unlimited, my power is!!!!

*Later on*

*Anakin and Obi-Wan duel*

Obi-Wan: I have failed you, Anakin. I have failed you.
Anakin: I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THE SITH WERE TRYING TO TAKE OVER!
Obi-Wan: Anakin, Master Yoda is evil!
Anakin: From my point of view, the Sith are evil!
Obi-Wan: Well then, you are lost!}

*And so, Darth Yoda ruled the galaxy until he was accidentally crushed by Vader when Vader mistook him for his long-lost muppet and crushed him in a bear hug. *

Someone should make that.

'twould be quite funny...

*In the Jedi Temple*

General Grievous: *Cough*You have a new apprentice*cough*... Jedi slime.
Yoda: Survived you have, General Grievous.
Grievous: Surprised?
Yoda: Blinds you, your arrogance does. Experience the full power of the light side you will! *Force pushes Grievous*
Grievous: Aahaahahaahaahaah *smashes into the wall*
Yoda: A long time for this, I have waited. No more, the Sith are.
Grievous: I'll crush you! *Ignites lightsaber. Yoda tries to run*
Grievous: If you're so powerful, fight me!
Yoda: Stop me, you will not. Become more powerful than either of us, Anakin will.
*Grievous and Yoda fights. In a short fight, Grievous has lost all of his limbs and is force pushed to oblivion. Yoda wins.*
Yoda: Dead you are. Rule the world I will!

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Bendak Starkiller isn't even a jedi or a sith. He's a retired mandalorian duelist on taris.
there is a 4,000 year time differance,they are not the same person,DUH

Originally posted by travis135
there is a 4,000 year time differance,they are not the same person,DUH

Someone already told him that

in the wise words of Qui-Gon-Jinn, "there is always a bigger fish"

Radical!

Originally posted by travis135
there is a 4,000 year time differance,they are not the same person,DUH krayt lived 1000 years and he didnt die.

Starkiller is mandalorian. Karen travis says that he lives as long as he frickin wants to.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
krayt lived 1000 years and he didnt die.

Starkiller is mandalorian. Karen travis says that he lives as long as he frickin wants to.

100.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
krayt lived 1000 years and he didnt die.

Starkiller is mandalorian. Karen travis says that he lives as long as he frickin wants to. yeah bendak also gets owned and was an adult in KotOR not a little kid after the empire was formed and it was 100 years not 1000 krayt also spent a long time in stasis thats why he lived that long

They are calling him Starkiller? Seriously? This punk dark force kid already blows.

it's a codename, his name isn't released already, it's just a name they gave him temporarily, and it's starkiller because it's luke's original name but they changed it because a good character shouldn't really have an evil sounding name so it didn't fit him well, however since 'starkiller' is the opposite of luke then having that name suits him well, still cant believe crashdown is who's playing him though