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We all know that mightymask (Goten and Trunks) in their base, restricted by eachother's motoric fought C18 a standstill (or close enough.) Trunks were 9 and Goten were 8, each more powerful than C18, who was more powerful than the combinded forces of the Z-fighters after have trained 3 years after Freeza saga.

Goten = C18 > Ssj Vegeta and Ssj Mirai Trunks > Ssj Goku > Freeza (100%)

Now, it suprized me that 5 year old Pan lapped the world to what Goku considered "pretty fast." Then I though of Freeza, whom on Namek wasn't as fast (it took a long time for him to get back to his ship.)

So who'd win Pan or Freeza?

Freeza being smarter and evil could probably win even though he's weaker. Pan would be to childish and playing around to really do anything and Freeza would destroy the planet if it really came down to that.

Freeza's power level was 12,000,000 at his max right?So you are saying Pan who couldnt even go super saiyan 1 power level was higher?After a while dragonball became stupid..it contradicted itself every episode it seemed.All of the z warriors including cyborg/android 18 held back in the world martial arts tournament so there is no way to know if trunks or goten were stronger. not to mention as i said Dragonball contradicts itself alot.

Android 18 held back against Trunks and Goten.

Freeza wins.

Frieza wins, Pan is nothing !!

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Android 18 held back against Trunks and Goten.
No she didn't, she even said that if the blast they fiered as Supersaiyajins hit her she'd die.

And Freeza was 120,000,000 accordin to the Daizenshuu.

And SSJ Goku was 160,000,000.

Really? Was this in the manga, cause I can't remember her sayin that.

Ssj Goku (first time) was 150,000,000

- Daizenshuu, manga handbook by Toriyama

Originally posted by Astner
Ssj Goku (first time) was 150,000,000

- Daizenshuu, manga handbook by Toriyama Kiss my ass.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Kiss my ass.
Reported!

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/5839/frenchdaizenshuuae1.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5453/daizplszc0ca0.jpg
- Confirmation (my own.)

Originally posted by Astner
Reported!

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/5839/frenchdaizenshuuae1.jpg I was jokin man.

hmm those power levels look weird

So Goku's power jumped from 180,000 when fighting captain Ginyu to 150.000.000 million in only a few days?I seen so called offical power guides by Toriyama stating Goku at super saiyan 1 had a power level of 15,000,000 and Freeza maximum power level was 12,000,000.If anything this show how stupid Dragonball Z was.
Vegeta was in his 20's when he first got on planet Namek right and his power levl was about 23,000 but by the time he faced Freeza the first time his power level was about 530.000 and the second time his power level was over a 1,000,000.In his first 20 plus years of being alive Vegeta only managed to get his power to 20,000 or so thousand but in less than a week he managed to increase his power level to over a million?Do you see how stupid that is?But lets say Freeza's power is 120.000.000 then how could a child like Pan who can't even go supersaiyan beat him.

I got the uncut japanese version of dragonball z and 18 never said she would be kille by Goten and Trunks.18 was holding back like all of the adult z warriors during the martial arts tournament

Fair discussion and thread.

Please, no flaming other members.

Go Pan!
Though she was a lot cooler in GT.
I say she wins.

I didnt insult anyone i said Dragonball Z was pretty stupid with its power levels

nooo Frieza deffinately wins this !! Pan is noooo wheer near Friezas strength GT or not

Goku was 3,000,000 after his zenkai (post Ginyu fight.) He used kaiŽO ken 10 against Freeza's 50% form, which means he was 30M, while Freeza was 60M, he went KaiŽOken 20 once to get to the same level and damage him. At Ssj he could take on Freeza 100%.

Goten must have been in the billions at his base (he was equal to C18.)
If Pan (younger) is close to that she'd probably win.

Goku was 3,000,000 after his zenkai (post Ginyu fight.) He used kaiŽO ken 10 against Freeza's 50% form, which means he was 30M, while Freeza was 60M, he went KaiŽOken 20 once to get to the same level and damage him. At Ssj he could take on Freeza 100%.

Goten must have been in the billions at his base (he was equal to C18.)
If Pan (younger) is close to that she'd probably win

As i said i seen websites that said Goku supersaiyan 1 had a power level of 15.000.000 and that was suppose to be official.Apparently you dont get what i am saying.How stupid is it to have a characters power increase that much so easily?Peoples power level jumped all over the place in dragonball so you dont really know what is official even from so called official sites.But here are a few so called official sites and all of them say what i have been saying Freeza at 100 percent had power level of 12,000,000 and Goku at super saiyan 1 was 15,000,000

http://www.myfavoritegames.com/dragonball-z/Info/Dragonball-Z-PowerLevels.htm

http://www.dbzn.net/powerlevels/intro.shtml

Astner you said Goku power level was 3 million after he fought Captain Ginyu but only 180,000 going Kaiokan before?So his power jumped that high after one fight right?So no other saiyan before Goku and Vegeta never got hurt during a battle?Why didnt any other saiyan power jump this much like you claimed Goku's did?

The Daizenshu is canon. Goku's powerlevel was 150,000,000.