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What country( excluding countries going through wars) is the worst to live in?

America. It ensures that no matter where you go people will hate you for something Bush did.

why excluding wars?

North Korea or Zimbabwe....

Originally posted by inimalist
why excluding wars?

Presumably to base judgment on the nations' merits rather than the odds of being killed by a stray bullet.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
What country( excluding countries going through wars) is the worst to live in?

Find a map and throw a dart at Africa (It really doesn't matter what country it hits).

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Presumably to base judgment on the nations' merits rather than the odds of being killed by a stray bullet.

fair enough... Although, sometimes the fact a country is ravaged by war speaks to its merits, re: Sudan

And I'll just say Jamaica or Haiti anyways

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Presumably to base judgment on the nations' merits rather than the odds of being killed by a stray bullet.

Who cares about history when you're wondering where your next meal is gonna come from?

Originally posted by jaden101
North Korea or Zimbabwe....

T, also Yemen if you're a woman.

north Korea or Africa maybe. I dont know, i'm about to go get me a monster burger, throw on some transformers and snuggle up in my thousand thread count egyptian sheets which were hand stitched in some third world sweat shop.

anyone else a fan of Ross Kemp: On Gangs?

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
north Korea or Africa maybe. I dont know, i'm about to go get me a monster burger, throw on some transformers and snuggle up in my thousand thread count egyptian sheets which were hand stitched in some third world sweat shop.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/poster51005048.jpg

I think I would get kidnapped in Colombia rather quickly.

I vote North Korea or Somalia.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/poster51005048.jpg



Fact remains, Africa has some of the most dangerous and destitute area's to live

One more vote for anywere in Africa (except for Morroco, Egypt, and South Africa. Looks like they at least have their act together.)

England: shit weather, expensive, crap public transport, ignorant people, boring food, limited social culture.

North Korea or a similarly oppressed country.

I don't get why you'd exclude wars. Mercer says Baghdad.

Africa or Britain. 131

Antartica, obviously. You'd die of extreme frostbite in about 2 seconds.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/poster51005048.jpg

You know I was thinking that while reading.

What the hell do you guys know about Africa anyway?

It's all jungles and lions and elephants and natives!

Assholes.

I could even see if you named certain regions or something but just simply Africa itself...

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Antartica, obviously. You'd die of extreme frostbite in about 2 seconds.

Ah, yes...good old country of Antarctica.

Originally posted by chithappens
It's all jungles and lions and elephants and natives! Well duh...

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/kenya/

the country where you can't feel humanity

Originally posted by ibm1000
the country where you can't feel humanity

Hahahahahaha!

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
America. It ensures that no matter where you go people will hate you for something Bush did.

Bullshit. People hate you for more then what Bush did.

France: If you don't speak their language...uh-oh!

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/poster51005048.jpg

Originally posted by chithappens
You know I was thinking that while reading.

What the hell do you guys know about Africa anyway? ...

A lot actually considering im from there and currently reside there as well. And i can tell you from experience that it aint to great( Especially West Africa)

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
France: If you don't speak their language...uh-oh!

You've been to France?

Originally posted by Bardock42
You've been to France?

I need to be in France?

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I need to be in France?

Well, yeah...if you are going to make such a blanket statement.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, yeah...if you are going to make such a blanket statement.

Oh, I see, since is not your gag is a blank statement. When it's your gags it isn't...got it!

Okay, I never been to Iraq or Zimbawe or Congo... So...it's fine!

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Oh, I see, since is not your gag is a blank statement. When it's your gags it isn't...got it!

Okay, I never been to Iraq or Zimbawe or Congo... So...it's fine!

Oh, fair enough, just a little joke about the smelly french. I mistook your statements as serious. My bad.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
England: shit weather, expensive, crap public transport, ignorant people, boring food, limited social culture.

I'm inclined to agree in many ways.

I love a lot of the history and some of the places within decent travelling or walking distance are amazing to one degree or another. Even the more rugged, dirty areas hold a certain aura, but in general, that doesn't cut it.

People here are intolerable, the general public are intolerable (Though I suppose you could argue that anywhere). That's mostly what I hate about this country, the people and their view of it, and how they'd represent it.

That said, that's just a really annoying, infuriating and at times unpleasant country to live in.

I would rather live in London than Basra.

-AC

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh, fair enough, just a little joke about the smelly french. I mistook your statements as serious. My bad.

*hugs and kisses*

I'm a California guy...we have our rivalry with the French and their wines.

NAPA VALLEY FTW!!!!

Originally posted by chithappens
You know I was thinking that while reading.

What the hell do you guys know about Africa anyway?

I once drove (okay, was driven) through the streets of Nairobi and got to see some of the things tourists are supposed to be steered away from. Going around a national capital and seeing burning piles of garbage and eight foot walls with impeded pieces of broken glass around churches and hotels is an unfortunate way to gain perspective.

I spent a few days in a Massai village. It was an infinitely nicer place to stay.

Later on I visited a few of the tourist trap places. Frankly it's disturbing to sit in a restaurant surrounded by white people (they "forgot" to serve our guide, who was black and from Africa) and look at the city lights.

That's only my experience in Kenya, however, and I don't know how much of it applies to the rest of Africa.

UK is the worst place to live, they have a free national health service here which will do there best to ensure you live past 60 - below the poverty line paying 25% of your annual salary to taxes that get spent on things you don't agree to.

America comes next because they have the smartest most advanced technology in the world - and are indeed (with an iron fist) the world leaders..but they still cant connect the dots between..

Gun crime ... and ... Selling Bullets at Walmart.

I don't really know where the worst place to live is, practically everywhere has something very annoying about it. I don't like America because of the laws, the flagrant use of ignorant stereotypes and the mindless consumerism. I don't like living in Britain either, sometimes it's alright, but at other times a lot of things really do get to me. I suppose if I had to choose anywhere not to live it'd be the Congo.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I don't really know where the worst place to live is, practically everywhere has something very annoying about it. I don't like America because of the laws, the flagrant use of ignorant stereotypes and the mindless consumerism. I don't like living in Britain either, sometimes it's alright, but at other times a lot of things really do get to me. I suppose if I had to choose anywhere not to live it'd be the Congo.

If you have ever been to the US, you must have gone to a big city. America is too big to generalize like that about.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
England: shit weather, expensive, crap public transport, ignorant people, boring food, limited social culture.

Yeah, same here.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If you have ever been to the US, you must have gone to a big city. America is too big to generalize like that about.

Yes, I've been to the U.S. I haven't only been to big cities, no. I was in Florida for a number of months and visited and stayed in big cities, small towns and dingy villages. I thought the point of this thread was to sort of draw on experiences you've got, which country did you raise and what are your experiences there?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I once drove (okay, was driven) through the streets of Nairobi and got to see some of the things tourists are supposed to be steered away from. Going around a national capital and seeing burning piles of garbage and eight foot walls with impeded pieces of broken glass around churches and hotels is an unfortunate way to gain perspective.

I spent a few days in a Massai village. It was an infinitely nicer place to stay.

Later on I visited a few of the tourist trap places. Frankly it's disturbing to sit in a restaurant surrounded by white people (they "forgot" to serve our guide, who was black and from Africa) and look at the city lights.

That's only my experience in Kenya, however, and I don't know how much of it applies to the rest of Africa.

Nairobi is a relatively good part of Africa. It does like all other African cities have its down sides but it is straight up paradise in comparison to some other places. If u really want to see the terrible side of Africa try visiting Nigeria, Sierra leon, Togo, Benin republic or frankly any other west African country asides ghana. If u visit Port harcourt in Nigeria( where im from sadly) you will most likely be kidnapped by militants.
At least in kenya you were able to look at the city lights, in Nigeria i can honestly say that there has bin virtually no light in the entire country for the past month. My family is a relatively privileged one( theres no way id be on the net now if we werent) and evn we dont have constant government supplied water so we rely on buying water from private water comapnies at insane prices. Those prices however pale in comparison to the amount spent on diesel to run the power generator.
The crime rate is super high and the police force is in shambles. It is only in this country where you are actually expected to give " egunje" or better known as bribes to evry passing police officer. If u dont u will likely be taken to the police station where u will be extorted of evn larger amounts.Structures such as the Fire service and ambulance are not evn in existence.

And id seriously advise against going to any sort of village in Nigeria.
Youd undoubtedly catch some of the worst diseases known to man before you leave.

In all though we are pretty lucky down here because benin republic and sierra leon make nigerias situation look like childsplay

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Yes, I've been to the U.S. I haven't only been to big cities, no. I was in Florida for a number of months and visited and stayed in big cities, small towns and dingy villages. I thought the point of this thread was to sort of draw on experiences you've got, which country did you raise and what are your experiences there?

Well, I have been back east (from were I live) and I would have to agree with you. I guess I'm just lucky to live here in Oregon.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well, I have been back east (from were I live) and I would have to agree with you. I guess I'm just lucky to live here in Oregon.

Yeah, east coasters are assh*les. Midwest is comfortable, and from what I've heard, so is the west coast.

Originally posted by Selphie
Yeah, east coasters are assh*les. Midwest is comfortable, and from what I've heard, so is the west coast.

West Coast is da home of the gangzta killahs!

*represent*

East coast *killer*, west coast *killer*
East coast west coast anybody killer!
I don't give a **** where you from i'ma killa hill-er

I'm bust a cap on yo ass! Cuz I'm da Masta Blaster!

(sorry for going off topic...but I couldn't resist that one)

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well, I have been back east (from were I live) and I would have to agree with you. I guess I'm just lucky to live here in Oregon.

Oregon is awesome. I miss the Pacific Northwest.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
Oregon is awesome. I miss the Pacific Northwest.

Yeah, I'll bet. People with generally great attitudes, and awesome underground bands, as well as great weather. I'd love to move over to Washington or Oregon someday.

Saudi Arabia is the worse country I've ever lived in: no bacon, no beer, no weed, no scantily clad women, no porn, camel spiders, and its hotter than.

They are speakeasies if you know where to look, but I don't like being secretive when I want a 40.

Funny, I've always considerd 40's to be a last resort. I must be an elitist.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
America. It ensures that no matter where you go people will hate you for something Bush did.

America is not a country either; the U.S.A is, Brazil is, Canada is, Peru is and they are all in the Americas.

I thought you ought to know since you post about Africa not being a country.

probably some war torn african countries or some wartorn south american countrie/islands. afghanistan and iraq as well as palestine and the gaaza strip are pretty bad too. formerly, yugoslavia/bosnia would have been pretty bad too.

Originally posted by chithappens
What the hell do you guys know about Africa anyway?

It's all jungles and lions and elephants and natives!

Assholes.

I could even see if you named certain regions or something but just simply Africa itself...

**** Africa. haermm

90% of the regions in Africa are uber poor or wartorn or have lots of disease or dangerous or... boring. I'm sure there are some parts of some of it's countries that are really nice... but the bad outweights the good by a pretty big margin...

No offense to any Africans/people who live in Africa. But I just really wouldn't want to go there. Ever.

^erm you did NOT just call africa boring. as far as natural features/flaura fauna/geography goes, its about as interesting as it gets, but yea. the poverty, war and diesease suck.

Africa full of elephants and lions? I think we should send you to the continent to actually see how it's going there.


http://www.panda.org/about_wwf/where_we_work/africa/what_we_do/elephant_programme/index.cfm
-> Elephant is illegally hunted

"Your chances of seeing it in the wild
To catch a glimpse of this majestic cat you would have to travel the south Sahara desert and parts of southern and eastern Africa."
http://www.panda.org/news_facts/education/best_place_species/current_top_10/lion.cfm

Originally posted by GCG
America is not a country either; the U.S.A is, Brazil is, Canada is, Peru is and they are all in the Americas.

I thought you ought to know since you post about Africa not being a country.

It is generally understood that when one says America one is refering to the United States of America. The same does not hold true for Africa which can only refer to the continent and not to any of the countries within it.

Nice try though.

Originally posted by GCG
America is not a country either; the U.S.A is, Brazil is, Canada is, Peru is and they are all in the Americas.


What an annoying knit picking prick you are, heres a small lesson in English.
When the word AMERICA is mentioned, it refers to the USA. The AMERICAS (notice the "S" on the end) refers to the continent.

Frist worst imo would be the wartorn eastern countries, Afganistan, Iraq, although the very poor and starving areas of Africa would be bad to live in for us, the natives have lived there their whole lives and likely get by, they probably would prefer there than to be shot down in Iraq

Then U.S.A, bad law enforcement, gun sanctioned, crime rates not too grand, covered in areas of natural distaster such as Earthquakes, tornados, bad economy and it would likely be the first place that would be nuked in a war, ignorant people but you get that everywhere really but in America sterotypes and media fills the minds of most people ive met, hell and no offence to americans on this board but some stupidity gets into the minds of some people there, a pair of teens 15+ish seriously asked me if Peter pan lives in London.....

Endgland for the same reasons as other people ,but its prob one of the safest countries and has good footing in most areas.

Originally posted by Burning thought
stupidity gets into the minds of some people there, a pair of teens 15+ish seriously asked me if Peter pan lives in London.....

You can find thoughts that silly anywhere. I was once asked if Americans still need people to build things.

Personally I don't think it's fair to judge any nation by its population. The spectrum is simply so broad that you can never make a remotely accurate generalization.

I agree, I was simply saying that from my own experiance, ofcourse there are silly people everywhere,not far from me in England, Ramsden road, the far end has some people who couldnt add up the number of their toes lol....

One thing i like about Americans is that some of the guys you find serving you in the shops are happy, always friendly even if some of his customers are not, you always get a "welcome" or so my experiance tells me, wheras in the area I live in Britian, you get a grunt as a welcome and a teenager with attitude blowing gum "sigh"

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^erm you did NOT just call africa boring. as far as natural features/flaura fauna/geography goes, its about as interesting as it gets, but yea. the poverty, war and diesease suck.

Interesting is subjective.

Did anyone actually say that Africa is just full of Lion's and Elephants? I think Chit was being sarcastic.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
What an annoying knit picking prick you are, heres a small lesson in English.
When the word AMERICA is mentioned, it refers to the USA. The AMERICAS (notice the "S" on the end) refers to the continent.

Well, technically the continent is America. The Americas are the countries of the continent of America (North and South). But America so commonly refers to U.S. Americans that one can hardly argue differently anymore. Still, if possible, one should try to differentiate.

I though the continent was North America?

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
I though the continent was North America?

Depends on your view of continents.

Originally posted by Selphie
Yeah, I'll bet. People with generally great attitudes, and awesome underground bands, as well as great weather. I'd love to move over to Washington or Oregon someday.

Me too.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
What country( excluding countries going through wars) is the worst to live in? israel

Originally posted by Bardock42
Depends on your view of continents.

wtf r u talking about

Originally posted by chithappens
wtf r u talking about

That there is no universal decision as to which land-masses exactly count as continents.

According to what?

Originally posted by chithappens
According to what? I think lack of general consensus doesn't need to be according to anything really, it's just a fact.

Ok, we have someone imitating Leo in this topic...

Originally posted by chithappens
Ok, we have someone imitating Leo in this topic...

Haha, no, but seriously. What is the standard then? Which are the continents, which aren't. Antarctica? Eurasia? Europe and Asia alone? North America and South America alone? Just one America? Africa-Eurasia?

Please tell me. I'd be happy to once and for all know the universally accepted standard of counting and distinguishing continents.

My step-dad says that when he was living in Africa he was taught that the name of the ccontinent for North and South America is called Oceania or something.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
My step-dad says that when he was living in Africa he was taught that the name of the ccontinent for North and South America is called Oceania or something. Never heard of that. Oceania usually refers to the region around Australia.

Yeah Oceania is Australia.

All I was saying is there no point is discussing something without definition. It's mainly understood to be 7 so it's better to leave it at that for this particular topic.

Originally posted by chithappens
Yeah Oceania is Australia.

All I was saying is there no point is discussing something without definition. It's mainly understood to be 7 so it's better to leave it at that for this particular topic.

M-mainly?

Meaning by you?

Originally posted by Bardock42
M-mainly?

Meaning by you?

Enough people that it got into Britannica.

http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article-9361501

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Enough people that it got into Britannica.

http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article-9361501 Mostly weak on Britannica's part not to mention the other definitions.

Either way, I don't know of statistics that say which parts of the population or scientific sources consider which definition as correct, so I can't comment on the dominance of one over the other. Just find it a bit presumptuous to take the one you happen to be familiar with as the dominant one without any evidence. If he has some, fair enough (though, it still doesn't change my initial point that the whole of America as well as South and North America each can be considered a continent)

Originally posted by Bardock42
Mostly weak on Britannica's part not to mention the other definitions.

Either way, I don't know of statistics that say which parts of the population or scientific sources consider which definition as correct, so I can't comment on the dominance of one over the other. Just find it a bit presumptuous to take the one you happen to be familiar with as the dominant one without any evidence. If he has some, fair enough (though, it still doesn't change my initial point that the whole of America as well as South and North America each can be considered a continent)

Since this is moderately interesting here are some relatively concise articles.



A continent can be defined as one of several major land masses on the earth. There is no standard definition for the number of continents but usually the numbers six or seven are used. By most accounts, there are a maximum of seven continents - Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America, and South America.

Most students in the U.S. are taught that there are seven continents. The National Geographic Society recognizes seven.

In Europe, many students are taught about six continents - North and South America are combined to form a single America. Therefore, the six continents are Africa, America, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, and Europe. A couple of years ago, I got into a relatively headed discussion through email with a European who could not understand how North and South America could be considered two separate continents, but this person readily accepted the fact that Europe and Asia were two separate continents.

Many geographers and scientists now refer to six continents, where Europe and Asia are combined (since they're one solid landmass). Thus, these six continents are Africa, Antarctica, Australia, Eurasia, North America, and South America. I personally like this distinction - I could never understand how you could divide Europe and Asia in the middle of a landmass. It seems to be more of a political or cultural division rather than a geographic one.
http://journals.aol.com/bowermanb/GWBlog/entries/2005/02/25/how-many-continents-are-there/262




Six or Seven Continents is a Common Answer
A continent is one of several major land masses on the earth. There is no standard definition for the number of continents but you will commonly find that the numbers six or seven are used.

By most standards, there are a seven continents - Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America, and South America. Most students in the United States are taught that there are seven continents.

In Europe and other parts of the world, many students are taught of six continents, where North and South America are combined to form a single continent of America. Thus, these six continents are Africa, America, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, and Europe.

Many scientists now refer to six continents, where Europe and Asia are combined (since they're one solid geologic landmass). Thus, these six continents are Africa, Antarctica, Australia, Eurasia, North America, and South America.

Geographers divide the planet into regions for ease of study. Various geographers have various definitions of these world regions. This Official Listing of Countries by Region divides the world into eight regions: Asia, the Middle East and North Africa, Europe, North America, Central America and the Caribbean, South America, Africa, and Australia and Oceania.
http://geography.about.com/od/learnabouttheearth/qt/qzcontinents.htm



I feel there are only four:
America
Eurasica
Australia
Antartica

Originally posted by Bardock42
Mostly weak on Britannica's part not to mention the other definitions.

Either way, I don't know of statistics that say which parts of the population or scientific sources consider which definition as correct, so I can't comment on the dominance of one over the other. Just find it a bit presumptuous to take the one you happen to be familiar with as the dominant one without any evidence.

It is the dominant one. If you agree with that or not is irrelevant if IT IS the dominant one that people use. I'm not even calling it correct but without doing some real digging, it's hard to find something that says otherwise.

That means nothing but as you have already said, apparently there is no real definition so I just go with what people can define it by. Pulling straws for this specific subject seems petty since it is not clearly defined.

Originally posted by chithappens
It is the dominant one. If you agree with that or not is irrelevant if IT IS the dominant one that people use. I'm not even calling it correct but without doing some real digging, it's hard to find something that says otherwise.


If you can prove that I will be happy to accept it. But even what Sym just posted said that the version with 6 or 7 is the dominant one.

I suppose to Americans (either type) it might be preferable to call themselves North or South Americans.

Odd argument anyways, I just wanted to point out that Blax view of it being North America (though I would probably tend to agree personally) is not necessarily more correct than the one I put forth earlier. And initially I wasn't even talking about the continents in specific, but the word in relation to Citizens of the USA.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
America. nah, its pretty sweet

Originally posted by Bicnarok
What an annoying knit picking prick you are, heres a small lesson in English.
When the word AMERICA is mentioned, it refers to the USA. The AMERICAS (notice the "S" on the end) refers to the continent.

Its 'nit picking' not 'knit picking' ! Good English lessons you give.
The point being emphasised was that the country is called U.S.
and America is the continent, or should i say continental plate, having its name originated from Amerigo Vespucci first arrived on the Brazilian shores.
This is a fact. Just because there is a percentage of people that keeps referring to it wrongly does not make it right by default.

and your argument is that names cannot change?

Course they do; Persia became Iran, Rhodesia became Zimbabwe. My argument is that the U.S. is still officially the U.S. and a Peruvian is an American, the same way you are American.

Yeah, but saying America to mean North America is a widely accepted term. It's also a completely understandable abbreviation, to use America instead. It's not as if people are calling it something it's not.

A lot of people also say "I could care less..." to denote that they couldn't care less, so let's not use the 'most people say it' excuse.

Someone from Peru is a Peruvian and a South American, someone from Canada is a Canadian and a North American, someone from the United States of America is a US citizen and a North American. When using the word American you should be prepared to use it in the context that your audience is used to. Your definition isn't any more correct than anyone else's, and acting like it is is nothing short of egotistical.

If you think that there's going to be confusion, then clarify yourself. End of discussion.

I'm sorry, who didn't clarify? Not that there was any need, everyone knew what it meant.

I should of seen it coming. Or should i have seen it coming?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I'm sorry, who didn't clarify? Not that there was any need, everyone knew what it meant.
When I say 'you' I didn't mean you. It was meant in the plural. Haha, I guess I should take my own advice and clarify when there could be some confusion.

Right, though my post can still be taken as a general reply.

Originally posted by Kinneary
A lot of people also say "I could care less..." to denote that they couldn't care less, so let's not use the 'most people say it' excuse.

Someone from Peru is a Peruvian and a South American, someone from Canada is a Canadian and a North American, someone from the United States of America is a US citizen and a North American. When using the word American you should be prepared to use it in the context that your audience is used to. Your definition isn't any more correct than anyone else's, and acting like it is is nothing short of egotistical.

If you think that there's going to be confusion, then clarify yourself. End of discussion.

I have never heard of anyone who used American to mean anything except a person from the United States. Besides the level your taking this to would require clarification of both the phrases US citizen (which could refer to someone from the Mexican United States) and North American (which could refer to someone from the United States of America or from the Dominion of Canada).

There is nothing grammatically wrong with using the word American to denote a citizen of the United States of America and the usage is all but universally accepted so the "could care less" comparison is less than apt

Nothing wrong there expect that the thread starter asks for a country that meets criteria of being the worst country to live in. If he asks for a country, give him a country not a whole plate.

The fact remains that everybody understood what was meant by it and that nothing was insulted, or hurt by saying America, instead of the USA. You're being needlessly academic, everything doesn't need a clear identifiable label, if everyone understands then why does it matter?

Originally posted by GCG
Nothing wrong there expect that the thread starter asks for a country that meets criteria of being the worst country to live in. If he asks for a country, give him a country not a whole plate.

The plates have technical names and there is not, in fact, an American plate.

Then why should it matter if Africa is called a country? Still, Stmmetric Chaos, question asks for a country and you should stick to that, because by saying America you are missing Hawaii which is hundreds of miles away from the other 49 states.
Hawaii is governed by the same constituation, currency, economy, hardware etc. so, yes it does matter.

Originally posted by GCG
Then why should it matter if Africa is called a country?

Because it is not a country and is only ever called one by accident. The same does not hold true for America.

Originally posted by GCG
Still, Stmmetric Chaos, question asks for a country and you should stick to that, because by saying America you are missing Hawaii which is hundreds of miles away from the other 49 states.
Hawaii is governed by the same constituation, currency, economy, hardware etc. so, yes it does matter.

When people use America to mean a country they mean all the constituent parts of the United States of America. I'm really not sure why this is so hard for you.

By saying America, he is talking about the United States of America, and it doesn't matter if Hawaii isn't part of North America, it's still a US state.


Legally, the term US Citizen means a citizen of the United States of America. So no, it can't be used to refer to someone from the Mexican United States. And if you haven't heard anyone use American to denote anything except a US citizen, then you are very sheltered from the rest of the world.

This isn't a legal discussion.



That's from your signature, what do you think was meant by that?

When you say that the legal name of a US citizen can be used as the name of a citizen of Mexico, it doesn't matter if its a legal discussion or not. It's wrong.

Originally posted by Kinneary
A lot of people also say "I could care less..." to denote that they couldn't care less, DUN DUN DUN...

Originally posted by Kinneary
When you say that the legal name of a US citizen can be used as the name of a citizen of Mexico, it doesn't matter if its a legal discussion or not. It's wrong.

Chose to ignore the other part of my post, did you?

So, when you read that quote, were you at a complete loss as to where it concerned?

Honestly, I didn't even realize it was from my sig. I put my sig together about two or three years ago and haven't thought about it since. I thought you were quoting another poster.

As to what it meant, I believe it meant he was speaking about the US. Is there something I'm missing here?

Well, yeah. My point of quoting it was to illustrate that it is an instantly recognisable name for the U.S, even to you. So what's wrong with saying America, instead of USA? Absolutely nothing as far as I'm concerned. It's something that's done by countless corporations, journalists, politicians and the common person, it has become synonymous with the U.S.

I don't believe I ever said that there was a problem. In fact, I believe I pretty much said that you can use any interpretation of the word you want. You just need to clarify yourself if you think there's going to be confusion.

Originally posted by Kinneary
You just need to clarify yourself if you think there's going to be confusion.

Which there wasn't.