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The Abomination (The Incredible Hulk)

The Hulk (The Incredible Hulk)

The Hulk (Ang Lee)

The Hulk (Ultimate Destruction)

VS

Superman (1978)

Superman (Superman Returns)

I meant to post this in the Movie Versus Forum.

Superman returns Supes lifts the continent that they're all on into the sun.

That's not a fight is it? That's cheap. Then again, that is Superman.

Well it's three Vs two. Abomination, Hulk and Hulk. The other one is from a game and doesn't count.

If you're asking me whether or not these beings would lose to Christopher Reeves Superman and Brandon Routh Superman...I can only chuckle.

-AC

Superman retreats to live out the rest of his days at the Krypton graveyard, sitting on a rock, wishing there were something he could do against three incredible Hulks and one abomination.

I don't think 10 movie Hulks would beat superman...

That's why thinking is for those capable OF it.

But wait, in light of that comment, I want a certain person to come here and highlight/ridicule your fanboyism as he would if someone said that about 10 Supermen not being able to beat a Hulk.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's not a fight is it? That's cheap.

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Exactly.

Meh.

Even if we disregard that, Supes could still win via BFR'ing them the old fashioned way. Grab one and toss him Mario/Bowser style into space.

That's still rather cheap. But as you said... it's Superman. Pretty much anything he does would be cheap, because Superman Returns Supes at least (Haven't seen the Reeves movies in a long while, and they were before my time. So I don't remember the events in them.) outclasses both Hulks in pretty much every way that actually matters. Durability, speed, prowess, and strength. Well, in terms of strength at least in base form.

This is how ridiculous it has got.

Superman Returns version being able to beat two Hulks and Abomination.

-AC

Reeves version is basically invincible and has a cheese factor of 11. Dude held apart the tectonic plates, reversed time and has brick laying vision.

Stupid fight.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
This is how ridiculous it has got.

Superman Returns version being able to beat two Hulks and Abomination.

-AC

My class ten reading comprehension is no match for your posts.

Are you agreeing with me, that SUues would beat all of them without too much trouble, or disagree with me?

I think anyone agreeing that Superman (Returns) would beat two Hulk's, movie obviously, and Abomination needs their head checked.

-AC

So then, how do you propose that team Hulk (I shall refer to them as that.) would beat even just Return's Supes? At base form Superman is stronger then all three of them combined, unless you can prove otherwise.

I haven't seen the fight, so I can't give a punch by punch analysis, nor can you say "He'd pick them up and fly them to the Sun.".

Plus, we're going by movies are we not? Ok, so Supes is strong enough to lift an island. That's different to dishing it our proportionate to the strength of three mega powered beings who heal and are trying to kill you, two of which have the ability to increase their strength.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I haven't seen the fight, so I can't give a punch by punch analysis, nor can you say "He'd pick them up and fly them to the Sun.".

Yeah, I can. The Hulk weighs, at the very most... what? a few tons maybe? If Supes can lift an island up to the sun he is more than strong enough to toss them out of earth's atmosphere and into the sun. He wouldn't even need to "fly" any of them there. None of them can fly, none of them can teleport. If any of them were knocked out of Earth's gravitational pull, it'd be over. It's not really a question of "if" Supes can do it, but if any of them would allow him to do that.. though I think that's what you meant.



You can say the same for Team Hulk. Most of there feats in the movies involve lifting/throwing things. There actual hitting power isn't as impressive. It took Norton's Hulk multiple haymaker blows to break the cars he was using for boxing gloves. I honestly don't think hits with that much force behind them would hurt Supes that much.

I can't eve r ecall Supes ever having to punch anything in the movies, at least not in Superman Returns which is the only one I remember. So I dunno if he has enough punching power to > all three of them (Though keep in mind that there are two Superman's in this fight. So it's not all three vs. one.), however I still think a BFR wouldn't be that hard.

Aside from lifting the continent, Supes can easily lift a few tons. Supes also moves fast enough to turn back time and fly to distant planets... I think that he isn't too far under lightspeed, at least half. Either way a Superman moving at lightspeed should be fast enough to speedblitz/tackle any of the three opponents into space before they even knew what was going on.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Yeah, I can. The Hulk weighs, at the very most... what? a few tons maybe? If Supes can lift an island up to the sun he is more than strong enough to toss them out of earth's atmosphere and into the sun. He wouldn't even need to "fly" any of them there. None of them can fly, none of them can teleport. If any of them were knocked out of Earth's gravitational pull, it'd be over. It's not really a question of "if" Supes can do it, but if any of them would allow him to do that.. though I think that's what you meant.

I meant that you can't say that because you don't know for sure.

By that token I could say "But then another Hulk would stop him and they'd all beat him down.", but I wouldn't cos then what'd be the point? Anyone can do anything if you write them to be able to.

If knocking them out of orbit counts as a win, then again it's silly. I thought we meant a fight.

Besides, what makes you think that he could throw them into the Sun, from Earth, with no deviation?

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
You can say the same for Team Hulk. Most of there feats in the movies involve lifting/throwing things. There actual hitting power isn't as impressive. It took Norton's Hulk multiple haymaker blows to break the cars he was using for boxing gloves. I honestly don't think hits with that much force behind them would hurt Supes that much.

I can't eve r ecall Supes ever having to punch anything in the movies, at least not in Superman Returns which is the only one I remember. So I dunno if he has enough punching power to > all three of them (Though keep in mind that there are two Superman's in this fight. So it's not all three vs. one.), however I still think a BFR wouldn't be that hard.

Well that's down to the nature of physics, unless you've got arms that long, you're not gonna cut a police car in half. The part he did hit was completely split.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Aside from lifting the continent, Supes can easily lift a few tons. Supes also moves fast enough to turn back time and fly to distant planets... I think that he isn't too far under lightspeed, at least half. Either way a Superman moving at lightspeed should be fast enough to speedblitz/tackle any of the three opponents into space before they even knew what was going on.

Ahh, the speedblitz. The Superman equal of cheating in a video game.

So essentially, we're arguing that Superman has the skills necessary to end the fight, not necessarily win a fight against these opponents without taking them out of bounds...?

-AC

AC,

Returns supes was also way overpowered, he was still able to perform with a shard of krypotonite in him, actually in him. I believe it's canon that even a silver of that shit is enough to incapacitate him, yet here it didn't.

Wow.

That's not fair.

That.. really isn't fair at all.

I hate this ****ing computer so much.

I'll re-type that multi-paragraph post and repost it tomorrow morning. Maybe it'll actually go through next time.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
So then, how do you propose that team Hulk (I shall refer to them as that.) would beat even just Return's Supes? At base form Superman is stronger then all three of them combined, unless you can prove otherwise.

beat him to death

Originally posted by Robtard
AC,

Returns supes was also way overpowered, he was still able to perform with a shard of krypotonite in him, actually in him. I believe it's canon that even a silver of that shit is enough to incapacitate him, yet here it didn't.

come on man, really? the Singer Superman was handled with a bit of realism. Singer Superman wasn't at all over powered to me. From the moment that he was in the presence of kryptonite his abilities were compromised and then the sickness set in gradually, like it should have.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
beat him to death

Ya know...

sometimes I really loathe you.

That's another reason why Superman is stupid.

Man is touted as invincible, but if you have a certain rock, he's a baby. It's just so hard to take seriously.

-AC

Superman stomps Hulk in every aspect.

Strength
Lifted a sub-continent embedded with Kryptonite, AND he had a piece of kryptonite in him. Lets imagine what he could lift without kryptonite....
Imagine the force required to lift that up. Really imagine it. Now imagine that force behind Superman's punch hitting the Hulk.

- Hulk's feats would place him at about class 80-100. We won't know how strong he was when he got pissed fighting Abomb, but he is still in way over his head compared to Superman's feat.

Speed
Sub-light speed, but still insanely fast. He was saving the world all over the place. People thought he was at two places at once, on the news. Hard concrete proof says he's speed is at least Mach 4.

- Hulk really doesn't have any speed to speak of. I mean Blonsky was evading his attacks when he was still Human. What chance has he got trying to tag Superman, who sees bullets in slow motion?

Durability
High callibre bullets from a gattling gun had NO effect on him. Not even a bullet fired into his freaking eye. Also, this guy flies into magma....

- While bullets don't really hurt the Hulk, it still affects him and he shields himself with his hands.

And so far, I've only been talking about Singer's Superman...

Superman was cheap enough as it is, how can we expect Hulk to win against a movie incarnation that is now seemingly immune to kryptonite when stabbed with it?

Besides, this is two Hulks and Abomination, and we're talking about a fight.

-AC

Didn't the Christopher Reeves Superman fly faster than light and somehow magically turned time back?

I think those movies are based on a pre-crisis Superman anyways. So he'd probably win, having the wonderful ability to shit new superpowers out of his ass. Or maybe he will supermath Abomination away, who knows.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Didn't the Christopher Reeves Superman fly faster than light and somehow magically turned time back?

I think those movies are based on a pre-crisis Superman anyways. So he'd probably win, having the wonderful ability to shit new superpowers out of his ass. Or maybe he will supermath Abomination away, who knows.

He did in the first movie.

Like I said "brick laying vision".

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
come on man, really? the Singer Superman was handled with a bit of realism. Singer Superman wasn't at all over powered to me. From the moment that he was in the presence of kryptonite his abilities were compromised and then the sickness set in gradually, like it should have.

While I liked the film and look forward to the next one, his ability to still function considerably well even with kryptonite all around him and in him was not canon and pretty much made him invincible.

Think about it, his one weakness wasn't all that much of a weakness.

I didn't see this until just now.

The rules state that the match limits are 3 vs. 3.

Closing.