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There are two reasons why superman level of power is inconsistent. Its because of the red sunlight and kryptonite. Each time superman receives radiation of kryptonite and red sun, it decreases his power to zero. The question is "how many times it happened since the reboot of superman"? In addition, all the feats of superman are inconsistent because it all depends of the amount of solar energy he had. Still it didn't come to a point where Superman absorbs too much energy and his energy reached another dimension. The logic about superman's level of power increasing many times per day is FALSE because of his weakness.

Red Sun radiation doesn't rob Superman of his powers, it simply freezes them. Access to his powers start to shut down over a period of time.

Kryptonite doesn’t reduce his power to zero, not unless he's exposed to a large amount over a long period of time. Recently, he managed to fight AAB while dealing with kryptonite poisoning.

And in the Power Struggle storyline, Superman was overloading with power. He feared that his slightest touch would level an entire city block.

Originally posted by Rorschach
Red Sun radiation doesn't rob Superman of his powers, it simply freezes them. Access to his powers start to shut down over a period of time.

Ruin used the red sun radiation to sap superman's power.

Originally posted by Rorschach
Kryptonite doesn’t reduce his power to zero, not unless he's exposed to a large amount over a long period of time. Recently, he managed to fight AAB while dealing with kryptonite poisoning.

It doesn't change the fact that it decreases his power.

Originally posted by Rorschach
And in the Power Struggle storyline, Superman was overloading with power. He feared that his slightest touch would level an entire city block.

Superman overloading with power and that his slightest touch would level an entire city block was not even a universal threat of power. It's kind of power that wouldn't even reach another dimension, modern-age Superman is weak.

Originally posted by nij-ayias
Ruin used the red sun radiation to sap superman's power.

No, Ruin used red sun radiation to ‘freeze’ Superman’s power. It’s called a retcon. Try to keep up with the character, if you’re going act like you know about the character.

Originally posted by nij-ayias
It doesn't change the fact that it decreases his power.

Only temporarily.

Originally posted by nij-ayias
Superman overloading with power and that his slightest touch would level an entire city block was not even a universal threat of power. It's kind of power that wouldn't even reach another dimension

It doesn’t matter. The point is, Superman can access too much solar energy. Prior to Infinite Crisis, it was believed that Superman originally transformed into Superman Blue because he accessed too much solar energy, and reverted back to his normal form after expending that energy during his fight the Millennium Giants. He also transformed in OWAW.

I don’t get what you mean by ‘reaching another dimension’. Could you please say that in a way in which it would make some sort of sense?

Originally posted by nij-ayias
modern-age Superman is weak.

Heh, I suppose that’s your opinion. I don’t consider Post-Crisis Superman to be weak, simply because he’s not as powerful as the Pre-Crisis version. I don’t even consider characters like Spider-Man to be ‘weak’, unless it’s in comparison to a character that is significantly more powerful.

I imagine he's trying to insinuate that Goku is more powerful than Superman because his power could be sensed in the afterlife.

This is of course rediculous. Superman has never truely radiated his reserves of energy outwards like Goku does. His power is internalised. Red Kryptonite was used once during the tower of babel to have this effect but Superman contained his energy through his willpower.

Its also worth noting that we've never had a situation in DC where
characters are shown in the afterlife commenting on a match.




Wait so unless Superman's a universal threat he's weak?

Its also worth noting that we've never had a situation in DC where
characters are shown in the afterlife commenting on a match.

Actually, that happened in "World's Funnest" (not canon, but just pointing it out)

Originally posted by Rorschach
No, Ruin used red sun radiation to ‘freeze’ Superman’s power. It’s called a retcon. Try to keep up with the character, if you’re going act like you know about the character.

It was stated in my comics that "it saps".

"RACK AND RUIN STORYLINE"


Originally posted by Rorschach

Only temporarily.


Temporarily decrease in power means that Superman's power is not increasing continuously, its like a sinusoidal wafeform of an ac ckt.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
I imagine he's trying to insinuate that Goku is more powerful than Superman because his power could be sensed in the afterlife.

ITS KAIOSHIN KAI NOT AFTERLIFE AND "KAIOHSHIN KAI IS IN ANOTHER DIMENSION NOT AFTERLIFE".

KAIOHSHIN KAI IS A DIMENSION GREATER THAN AFTERLIFE.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
This is of course rediculous. Superman has never truely radiated his reserves of energy outwards like Goku does. His power is internalised. Red Kryptonite was used once during the tower of babel to have this effect but Superman contained his energy through his willpower.

Its not about radiated energy, its the presence of energy.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Its also worth noting that we've never had a situation in DC where
characters are shown in the afterlife commenting on a match.

Wait so unless Superman's a universal threat he's weak?

Still, commenting a match doesn't mean that they sensed the energy reached in DC's afterlife.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Actually, that happened in "World's Funnest" (not canon, but just pointing it out)

And I'm also pointing out that canonsuperman is weaker.

Your dumb,seriously give it up,superman will beat gokus ass its that simple,superman keeps his energy on the inside gokus forces his out theres a big difference,let me know when goku ever resisted universe destroyers or moved planets with physical might or any of the other feats superman has that shit on goku.

Originally posted by nij-ayias
It was stated in my comics that "it saps".

"RACK AND RUIN STORYLINE"

Red Sun radiation only 'freezes' his powers.

Your information is outdated.

Originally posted by nij-ayias
Temporarily decrease in power means that Superman's power is not increasing continuously, its like a sinusoidal wafeform of an ac ckt.

When he’s around kryptonite his powers don’t increase. But if he’s around kryptonite, and then leaves the vicinity of kryptonite, his powers will soon reach the level they were at before he was exposed to kryptonite.

the ruin story is contradicted by a more recent example, namely:

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2694/10zk0.jpg

its from superman 667, iirc...

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Your dumb,seriously give it up,superman will beat gokus ass its that simple,superman keeps his energy on the inside gokus forces his out theres a big difference,let me know when goku ever resisted universe destroyers or moved planets with physical might or any of the other feats superman has that shit on goku.

It's about energy and energy has presence, anyone has energy including superman but its not enough to reach another dimension. Is that hard enough for you to understand? Keeping the energy from the inside for other people to not detect it is a dbz-skill, since when did superman learn that? By the way, Modern-Age Superman has incredible feats and it requires tremendous energy to do that but still not enough to reach another dimension.

Modern-Age Superman's energy = sunlight = can only reach another galaxy

I know Goku cant resist universe buster, but since when does Modern-Age Superman or original Kal-el survived a universe buster?

Originally posted by Rorschach

When he’s around kryptonite his powers don’t increase. But if he’s around kryptonite, and then leaves the vicinity of kryptonite, his powers will soon reach the level they were at before he was exposed to kryptonite.

That is my reason why his powers don't increase continuously because most of his opponents uses kryptonite, instead of increasing continuously his power only reaches the level they were at before he was exposed to kryptonite. Is that increase?

As long as kryptonite exists, his power will never increase continuously. Besides a one year exposure to yellow sun radiation doesn't give him 100 times increase in power.

You are a fanboy who uses ridiculous unquantifiable bullshit like energy being felt in another dimensions over actual feats, an area Superman destroys Goku in.

Originally posted by nij-ayias
That is my reason why his powers don't increase continuously because most of his opponents uses kryptonite, instead of increasing continuously his power only reaches the level they were at before he was exposed to kryptonite. Is that increase?

As long as kryptonite exists, his power will never increase continuously. Besides a one year exposure to yellow sun radiation doesn't give him 100 times increase in power.

He isn’t always exposed to kryptonite, so whatever point you’re trying to make is moot.

And no one’s claiming Superman becomes considerably more and more powerful with every passing moment. He becomes more powerful as the years pass, but it takes along time for him to really have a significant increase in his strength, speed, etc. However, we do know for certain that Kryptonians do become more and powerful as time passes. This is backed up by not only by Superman’s increase in power from the Bryne Era, but also with the appearance of Chris Kent in Arena.

Being sensed from another dimension isn't exactly a huge feat in the DBU. We already know ki can be felt from other dimensions - King Kai was sensing people from other dimensions back in the Saiyan saga.

Also, the idea of what is required to feel something in another dimension is a bit blurred in the DBU - remember when Goku was trying to find the new Namek's planet by sensing their ki from earth, but couldn't, even though it was just somewhere else in the universe? Then he teleported to King Kai's dimension and he could feel it from there. So in that case, sensing ki from another dimension was easier than sensing it somewhere else in the universe. It's useless as a feat.

Darkseid has spied on Superman from Apokolips, which is in another dimension. Is that somehow a feat for Superman now?

Originally posted by Rorschach
He isn’t always exposed to kryptonite, so whatever point you’re trying to make is moot.

And no one’s claiming Superman becomes considerably more and more powerful with every passing moment. He becomes more powerful as the years pass, but it takes along time for him to really have a significant increase in his strength, speed, etc. However, we do know for certain that Kryptonians do become more and powerful as time passes. This is backed up by not only by Superman’s increase in power from the Bryne Era, but also with the appearance of Chris Kent in Arena.

It's not moot, its fact. More powerful as the years pass but takes along time for him to really have a significant increase in powers doesn't mean 3 times increase of power in a single heartbeat.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Being sensed from another dimension isn't exactly a huge feat in the DBU. We already know ki can be felt from other dimensions - King Kai was sensing people from other dimensions back in the Saiyan saga.

Also, the idea of what is required to feel something in another dimension is a bit blurred in the DBU - remember when Goku was trying to find the new Namek's planet by sensing their ki from earth, but couldn't, even though it was just somewhere else in the universe? Then he teleported to King Kai's dimension and he could feel it from there. So in that case, sensing ki from another dimension was easier than sensing it somewhere else in the universe. It's useless as a feat.

What are you saying "HARDLY PRETENDER'?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Darkseid has spied on Superman from Apokolips, which is in another dimension. Is that somehow a feat for Superman now?

Take note, "DARKSEID HAS SPIED ON SUPERMAN". Now tell me, where's statement "POWER ENOUGH TO REACH THIS xxxx" where ?

Originally posted by nij-ayias
It's not moot, its fact. More powerful as the years pass but takes along time for him to really have a significant increase in powers doesn't mean 3 times increase of power in a single heartbeat.
No one's claiming Superman's powers gain a significant increase with ever passing second.