The First Avenger: Captain America

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stickman618
i know it's really early but people are already talking about it

it comes out in 2011

there's a deleted scene in TIH where Banner comes across CA's frozen body, it's to be included in the dvd, so that's his set up.

and for costume changes, i'd like at least leave out the wings

Scoobless
Is that the working title for the film? 'cos (as I'm sure most/all of you know) Cap wasn't the first Avenger in either 616 or the Ultimates.

I suppose the origin would have to be rewritten though as the ... ahem ... original origin .... ermm .... would be long winded and would require a lot of back-story to be acceptable in modern film storytelling.

stickman618
it is according to wikipedia

tjcoady
Maybe the mean figuratively he's the first Avenger? Like the first hero to embody the precepts of the Avengers?

That wouldn't be all that far off.

SnakeEyes
Title sucks, but I'm sure they'll change it by the time it comes out.

Out of all comic-to-film adaptions, this is the one I'm most skeptical about. I've never seen Cap as a character who'd translate well onto the big screen. If they lean more towards Ultimate Cap, then maybe it'll work, but still...

Kazenji
Originally posted by Scoobless

I suppose the origin would have to be rewritten though as the ... ahem ... original origin .... ermm .... would be long winded and would require a lot of back-story to be acceptable in modern film storytelling.

They could allways do a superhero period piece movie have it set in the 1940's wink

stickman618
i think it will concentrate more on before he got frozen, then they just find him again in the Avengers movie

ScarletSpeed
I think it will start off in WW2 when he gets the SuperSoldierSerum, then I think Namor will find his frozen body.

stickman618
in a deleted scene in TIH, Banner found him

ScarletSpeed
that's just wrong no expressionlaughing out loud

Toku King
Originally posted by stickman618
in a deleted scene in TIH, Banner found him

That's not true.

Toku King
Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
I think it will start off in WW2 when he gets the SuperSoldierSerum, then I think Namor will find his frozen body.

Namor won't be in Avengers.

ScarletSpeed
he should atleast have a small part,

In The Avengers #4 (March 1964), Namor discovers an Arctic tribe worshipping a frozen figure preserved in a block of ice. Enraged at the idolatry, he throws the block into the ocean, where, after Namor's departure, it subsequently melts to reveal Captain America's body frozen in suspended animation; the superhero team the Avengers would shortly revive him.

stickman618
Originally posted by Toku King
That's not true.

that's what someone posted on the TIH forum

BruceSkywalker
I look forward to seeing this. Glad CA was not in The Incredible Hulk.

roughrider
The best name actor out there for this role, is Matthew McConaughey.
He's several years younger than Brad Pitt, built much bigger, and can act this part if you're seen U-571 or Reign Of Fire.
May have to modulate that Texas accent though...is it important for Cap to sound non-regional?

stickman618
i don't really want anyone famous to play him, as long as he's a good actor

ScarletSpeed
I really think Paul Walker sits the par, looks wise,


too bad about his actinglaughing out loud

Kazenji
Leonardo Dicaprio has been rumoured to play Captain america, Hopefully it stays a rumour.

stickman618
i'll say

he's way too famous, like Nicholas Cage and Ben Affleck

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by roughrider
The best name actor out there for this role, is Matthew McConaughey.
He's several years younger than Brad Pitt, built much bigger, and can act this part if you're seen U-571 or Reign Of Fire.
May have to modulate that Texas accent though...is it important for Cap to sound non-regional?

e is a good actor, but Steve Rogers was not 40 when joined the armed forces and later became Capt America.

ScarletSpeed
Originally posted by stickman618
i'll say

he's way too famous, like Nicholas Cage and Ben Affleck


oh yeah it's cause he's too famous it would be awfulconfused


not the fact that he is like 5 ft tall laughing out loud

roughrider
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
e is a good actor, but Steve Rogers was not 40 when joined the armed forces and later became Capt America.

MM is 39 and looks younger.
If he plays the frail pre-serum Rogers, they'll have to resort to photoshop like in X3.

stickman618
Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
oh yeah it's cause he's too famous it would be awfulconfused


not the fact that he is like 5 ft tall laughing out loud

if they're too famous, you expect too much,

i mean, i can see Ben Affleck as a lawyer, but not a superhero

ScarletSpeed
Originally posted by stickman618
if they're too famous, you expect too much,

i mean, i can see Ben Affleck as a lawyer, but not a superhero

I am just saying, him being not suitable for the part is more of a reason for him not to do it, not the fact he is too famous.

SnakeEyes
If they pick Matthew McConaughey, I'll be pissed. In every movie he's in, he just annoys me.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by roughrider
MM is 39 and looks younger.
If he plays the frail pre-serum Rogers, they'll have to resort to photoshop like in X3.


That worked for Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan. I don't feel Matt McConaughey is the right choice. I feel a much younger actor is needed.

stickman618
how old was Steve Rogers when he became CA anyway??

roughrider
Originally posted by stickman618
how old was Steve Rogers when he became CA anyway??

About 23. So, the actor has to appear late 20's at worst.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by stickman618
how old was Steve Rogers when he became CA anyway??

Steve Rogers was 22-23 . A much younger actor is needed to portray Steve Rogers/ Capt America and not an old actor. I think we should all realize is that what worked for Iron Man when Robert Downey, Jr was hired., may not work here for CA. The age effects worked for the ten minutes or so scene in X3 where Stewart and McKellan are concerned may not and prolly not work here. A young actor between 20 and 24 can pull this off and is very appropriate for this role

ragesRemorse
Why does it matter if he looks 23 or 30? Out of all the things they will probably change about his character and origins you are all concerned most about a few years in age? Changing his characters aesthetic appearance from 23 to 30 is not a big deal at all for me. In fact, i think i would actually prefer some age on captain America. I know it would broaden the casting opportunities.

stickman618
maybe someone who can pull off a "take charge" kinda role i guess

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Why does it matter if he looks 23 or 30? Out of all the things they will probably change about his character and origins you are all concerned most about a few years in age? Changing his characters aesthetic appearance from 23 to 30 is not a big deal at all for me. In fact, i think i would actually prefer some age on captain America. I know it would broaden the casting opportunities.



It may broaden the casting opportunities, but the film may be a huge disaster and I don't think Marvel wants that

hugekent
Do you guys seriously want Captain America as an early twenties guy? To me he's the worldly, well respected guy and I've always seen him as being a man in his 30's.

stickman618
yeah, might be better if he's a bit older late 20's-early 30's

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by hugekent
Do you guys seriously want Captain America as an early twenties guy? To me he's the worldly, well respected guy and I've always seen him as being a man in his 30's.

I do, because that is staying true to the origin of the character. Steve Rogers was a young man, NOT AN OLD MAN when he entered into the super soldier program and took the super soldier formula.

mr.smiley
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Why does it matter if he looks 23 or 30? Out of all the things they will probably change about his character and origins you are all concerned most about a few years in age? Changing his characters aesthetic appearance from 23 to 30 is not a big deal at all for me. In fact, i think i would actually prefer some age on captain America. I know it would broaden the casting opportunities.

No kidding.As long as the guy can play the role,and looks the part i'm not going to complain.

mr.smiley
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
I do, because that is staying true to the origin of the character. Steve Rogers was a young man, NOT AN OLD MAN when he entered into the super soldier program and took the super soldier formula.


30's not old though.If the actor playing him was in his 50's I would agree with you.

ragesRemorse
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
If they pick Matthew McConaughey, I'll be pissed. In every movie he's in, he just annoys me.

yeah, i really don't wanna see Captain America shirtless through the entire movie.

Kazenji
How about Aaron Eckhart ??

but then again he's playing two-face now with the batman films.

ragesRemorse
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
It may broaden the casting opportunities, but the film may be a huge disaster and I don't think Marvel wants that

How would it be a huge disaster just because the character's appearance is a couple years older? Wouldn't you prefer a good actor over a pretty face?

ScarletSpeed
Originally posted by Kazenji
How about Aaron Eckhart ??

but then again he's playing two-face now with the batman films.


I always said Aaron would be a good Cap,

well Halle Berry has played Storm and Catwoman so it wouldn't be so bad.

Kazenji
"If" they do pick him he could play Steve rogers when he's older and get someone younger to play him when he's in the army.

stickman618
Originally posted by Kazenji
How about Aaron Eckhart ??

but then again he's playing two-face now with the batman films.

oooh, good one

he's a good actor and has an "all american" accent, not like Matt Mcconaughey confused

ScarletSpeed
i still think they should have Justin Hartley play young Cap.

H. S. 6
Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
well Halle Berry has played Storm and Catwoman so it wouldn't be so bad.

Please re-read what you just posted.

Juk3n
I vote Nathan Fillion to play Cap, the guy would rock.

Looks the pert too - but i bet they end up getting a blondie for teh laydeez!!

ScarletSpeed
Originally posted by H. S. 6
Please re-read what you just posted.


haha, nah I mean it's not as if they will not cast him cause he has done a DC movielaughing

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
How would it be a huge disaster just because the character's appearance is a couple years older? Wouldn't you prefer a good actor over a pretty face?


Well I highly doubt every Captain America fan wants to see someone in their late 30's or 40's playing such an iconic character. Just because Robert Downey, Jr was perfect for Iron Man doesn't mean Matt McConaughey is perfect for this role. Also I never realized that CA would talk like Matt McConaughey. Since when does good acting turn into a successful franchise. Not always. For this role of Steve Rogers/Captain America I prefer someone young between 20-24. Also I want said actor learn the martial arts and do most if not all his stunts.




Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
i still think they should have Justin Hartley play young Cap.


Hartley could work.

ScarletSpeed
Originally posted by Juk3n
I vote Nathan Fillion to play Cap, the guy would rock.

Looks the pert too - but i bet they end up getting a blondie for teh laydeez!!


no they will get a blondie because that is Cap laughing out loud

Juk3n
Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
no they will get a blondie because that is Cap laughing out loud

that too ^^, but i think he'd still be great ;-)

ScarletSpeed
Sorry I just really, really can't see him as Capno expression

I just keep picturing him in 2 guys and a girllaughing out loud

Juk3n
Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
Sorry I just really, really can't see him as Capno expression

I just keep picturing him in 2 guys and a girllaughing out loud

2GaaG is one of my faves, good old wit firing on all cylinders

ScarletSpeed
Originally posted by Juk3n
2GaaG is one of my faves, good old wit firing on all cylinders


Yeah Berg and Pete are too funny.


Ryan Reynoldsbig grin

stickman618
Ryan Reynolds for CA??

looks the part but i don't know how well he can pull off a more serious role, i couldn't help but laugh a little for every scene he had in Blade 3

ScarletSpeed
Originally posted by stickman618
Ryan Reynolds for CA??

looks the part but i don't know how well he can pull off a more serious role, i couldn't help but laugh a little for every scene he had in Blade 3


No I wasn't meaning use him as Cap laughing out loud


Juken was saying that Nathan Fillion would be good and I was saying that I can only picture him in his comedic role alongside Ryan Reynolds in the tv show "2guys a girl and a pizza place"

awesome

Alpha Centauri
Brendan Fraser would be good.

I hope that isn't the set title, though.

-AC

SpaceMonkey
Has anyone seen the clip in Ironman were supposedly Stark has the Capt. America shield on a table? I saw the clip on youtube, and it looks kind of like it might be true.

Not sure if I am allowed to post that link here.

Kazenji
That clip is bullshit

Theres nothing in that scene that looks like a shield to me.

stickman618
now that i think about it, the super soldier serum was made by Stark Industries, maybe he was(off screen) pulling up some old files on his computer

but in that scene it looks more like it's on his computer and not the actual sheild

SpaceMonkey
Originally posted by Kazenji
That clip is bullshit

Theres nothing in that scene that looks like a shield to me.

So quick to dismiss! Haha

Originally posted by stickman618
now that i think about it, the super soldier serum was made by Stark Industries, maybe he was(off screen) pulling up some old files on his computer

but in that scene it looks more like it's on his computer and not the actual sheild

Stark was aware of everything involved in the failed SSS experiments, so why would he NOT have something that was used by a previous test subject.

I'm not saying that it's 100% true or a sure thing, but a little easter egg like that might be cool once they tie everything in later on.

roughrider
I believe Kevin Feige at Marvel has confirmed that was the shield, sitting on the table. eek!

SpaceMonkey
Originally posted by roughrider
I believe Kevin Feige at Marvel has confirmed that was the shield, sitting on the table. eek!

Where did you hear that?

Endrict Nuul
http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=7531

Source: Silas Lesnick
July 24, 2008


John Barrowman, the star of "Torchwood," was just asked moments ago at the San Diego Comic-Con panel if there was any possibility that he would be playing Captain America in the upcoming feature film.

He smiled and gave the stock answer that he'd love to play the character and that Captain America has always been his favorite comic book superhero. Clearly, though, the notion did not take him by surprise and he ended up admitting there had been discussions with his agents and meetings on that very issue.

What do you think? Though maybe not the star-power that the studio might be looking for, Barrowman certainly fits the bill. We'll bring you more news as it develops.

The First Avenger: Captain America is currently scheduled for a May 6, 2011 release.

SpaceMonkey
I certainly hope it's not this guy.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=7531

Source: Silas Lesnick
July 24, 2008


John Barrowman, the star of "Torchwood," was just asked moments ago at the San Diego Comic-Con panel if there was any possibility that he would be playing Captain America in the upcoming feature film.

He smiled and gave the stock answer that he'd love to play the character and that Captain America has always been his favorite comic book superhero. Clearly, though, the notion did not take him by surprise and he ended up admitting there had been discussions with his agents and meetings on that very issue.

What do you think? Though maybe not the star-power that the studio might be looking for, Barrowman certainly fits the bill. We'll bring you more news as it develops.

The First Avenger: Captain America is currently scheduled for a May 6, 2011 release.


I read that and threw up

Kazenji
Whats wrong with him being capt is it because he's gay ??

stickman618
he doesn't look the part to me

Endrict Nuul
Originally posted by stickman618
he doesn't look the part to me

Just add blonde hair to him and DA DA!!

Endrict Nuul
I want them to cast...Matthew McConaughey.

stickman618
it's not the hair, it's the face, i don't know why but it annoys me

roughrider
Originally posted by stickman618
he doesn't look the part to me

He looks all right to me. Better than this rumour of Leonardo DiCaprio.

SpaceMonkey
His face sucks! He needs to be more rugged, like he has been through some crap.

Endrict Nuul
Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
His face sucks! He needs to be more rugged, like he has been through some crap.

It's called cosmetics.

roughrider
I think it's going to be another year before we hear any castings. The film's coming out May 2011 - the lead actor should be in place by summer-fall of 2009, in time for the film to wrap principal shooting in mid 2010.

SpaceMonkey
Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
It's called cosmetics.

Cosmetics can only do so much. It's part of the personality.

stickman618
Originally posted by roughrider
He looks all right to me. Better than this rumour of Leonardo DiCaprio.

oh god, please not Leo DiCrapio

Endrict Nuul
Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
Cosmetics can only do so much. It's part of the personality.

That can change if the actor is willing to work hard. I didn't like A Knights Tale with Heath but he work to death on the Joker role and look what happen? Matthew McConaughey also did a good job in U-571 and was badass in Reign of Fire.


Matt Damon is my other choice.

SpaceMonkey
Damon might be good. I'll give you that.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by stickman618
he doesn't look the part to me

K3VIL
To me Jason Statham would fit the role perfectly.He's already well built, he just needs to put on a bit more pounds.In the Transporter franchise he has showed how good he is in portraying a character who relies mostly on HTH combat, and also seeing how good he was with unconventional weapons, imagine what he could do with the shield.Not to mention he has great acting skills.

roughrider
Originally posted by K3VIL
To me Jason Statham would fit the role perfectly.He's already well built, he just needs to put on a bit more pounds.In the Transporter franchise he has showed how good he is in portraying a character who relies mostly on HTH combat, and also seeing how good he was with unconventional weapons, imagine what he could do with the shield.Not to mention he has great acting skills.

I don't think Jason Statham can do a convincing American accent without sounding like a Clint Eastwood clone. And a blond wig on him might look silly; the shaved head is his look.

stickman618
i agree, Jason Statham in a blond wig and american accent doesn't go well

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by stickman618
i agree, Jason Statham in a blond wig and american accent doesn't go well


I concur also

Condor
I've been saying this for years, on any message board I've been in contact with: Theres's only one man who was born to play Cap, and that is actor Jason Lewis. Anything else will be a disappointment to me.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Condor
I've been saying this for years, on any message board I've been in contact with: Theres's only one man who was born to play Cap, and that is actor Jason Lewis. Anything else will be a disappointment to me.


He can't act..

Condor
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
He can't act..

Well actually he hasn't really been given any substantial roles yet......other than Sex in the City and a small role in "Mr. Brooks" (off the top of my head).

Besides, it doesn't take an Oscar winner to convey Cap effectively. A guy with Bruce Willis' type range could pull it off.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Condor
Well actually he hasn't really been given any substantial roles yet......other than Sex in the City and a small role in "Mr. Brooks" (off the top of my head).

Besides, it doesn't take an Oscar winner to convey Cap effectively. A guy with Bruce Willis' type range could pull it off.


Bruce Willis is too old for CAP also. You need more than some sort of pretty boy to portray Steve Rogers/Cap. You also want the actor to do some of his own stunts

fredstawill
it would probably be a ww2 movie with them stubling across his body at the end or the otherway round where he gets found and it goes into the past then present and so on

Condor
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Bruce Willis is too old for CAP also. You need more than some sort of pretty boy to portray Steve Rogers/Cap. You also want the actor to do some of his own stunts

I didn't say Willis would be a good choice, in fact he would be horrible, what I said was somebody with HIS TYPE OF ACTING RANGE......for example, able to convincingly convey emotions such as anger, fear, rage, and pain, all the while coming off as a normal person.

I do agree however that a pretty boy will not suffice, but there is something about Lewis that makes me think he has it in him.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Condor
I didn't say Willis would be a good choice, in fact he would be horrible, what I said was somebody with HIS TYPE OF ACTING RANGE......for example, able to convincingly convey emotions such as anger, fear, rage, and pain, all the while coming off as a normal person.

I do agree however that a pretty boy will not suffice, but there is something about Lewis that makes me think he has it in him.


Regarding Wilis, I was trying to get you to laugh a little. Personally I hope a young actor between 21 and 24 is hired.

BruceSkywalker
To those of you who watch that god awdul show American Gladiators. It seems Mike O'Hearn or Titan as he is known on the show is possibly up for two roles, one being Captain America..

http://www.movieweb.com/news/26/30526.php

SpaceMonkey
I think someone a bit older and more rugged looking than the average Hollywood pretty boy would be best for this role. Close to how Tim Roth looked in Hulk.

stickman618
he needs to look friendly

fredstawill
itl probs be a WW2 movie

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by fredstawill
itl probs be a WW2 movie


From what I've read it's supposed to be a period piece. Take place during WW2 and then flash forward to the present.

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