tee_pirategirl
we talk about how great he is and how much we love him. you have to admit that his lines are your favorite...you love to see him with Elizabeth. You love to see him while he's plotting and scheming and being a pirate.
But then I actually realized, more than ever before, how truly fascinating he is. I'd always thought of Jack who will do anything necessary to get what he wants but that's only true to an extent.
This is a good point: (quoting from another forum)
The lying is a big obstacle, call it pathological. Jack Sparrow uses language when it makes people do things. He tells people what's going on, even his own crew whom he depends on and who depend on him, on an "I need you to believe it" basis.
Case 1: The Kraken is coming! Jack is gibbering in fear under the stairs! Gibbs deduces that something is coming for the ship, and when he confronts Jack, Jack, where a normal person would figure the game is up and just tell him, comically insists that there's "nothing!"
Case 2: Jack sends Will to the Dutchman. He knows that Will has some loyalty to him; Will risked his neck to get him off the noose. He knows Will's father is bound to the Dutchman, and knowing Will, it's obvious the boy would do just about anything to free his father, regardless the risk to himself. The sensible thing here is to tell Will what's going on, have Will get the key, then cooperate to get what they both want from Jones. Instead, since Jack can't ever tell anyone the whole truth, he betrays his friend and forces him to carry out his plan, trusting to Will's luck and ingenuity to figure out what he needs to do.
i think jack's unwillingness to share is what makes his relationship with elizabeth special. have u noticed she is the only one he's ever just shared information with without needing anything?
I adore JE fanfics. they're the only ones I read, write, breath, admire...and there are so many well written JE fics. but i honestly don't think any JE fic can be true to Jack's character completely. unless it's 'just a fic' with JE moments but no entirely SPARRABETH fic(that is interesting to read) can ever capture the sense of Jack. that's why the movies were so entrancing...the movie wasn't about JE but JE was certainly the best part of the movie...
putting my Sparrabeth shipping aside...i don't think jack is a very romantic character unless it serves him...or it's just 'fake' sweet talking a strumpet to fall into bed with him. he might have feeling for elizabeth but that's just so out of character of him that he's not willing to accept it..
then again...i really don't think he's a drunk..
here's the discussion...how would YOU write him? what would be your main ingredients to writing him?
here's link to ff.net forum with the same topic. i think they have some great points..
http://www.fanfiction.net/topic/19552/733006/1/
don't let my rambling put you off...what do you think?
But then I actually realized, more than ever before, how truly fascinating he is. I'd always thought of Jack who will do anything necessary to get what he wants but that's only true to an extent.
This is a good point: (quoting from another forum)
The lying is a big obstacle, call it pathological. Jack Sparrow uses language when it makes people do things. He tells people what's going on, even his own crew whom he depends on and who depend on him, on an "I need you to believe it" basis.
Case 1: The Kraken is coming! Jack is gibbering in fear under the stairs! Gibbs deduces that something is coming for the ship, and when he confronts Jack, Jack, where a normal person would figure the game is up and just tell him, comically insists that there's "nothing!"
Case 2: Jack sends Will to the Dutchman. He knows that Will has some loyalty to him; Will risked his neck to get him off the noose. He knows Will's father is bound to the Dutchman, and knowing Will, it's obvious the boy would do just about anything to free his father, regardless the risk to himself. The sensible thing here is to tell Will what's going on, have Will get the key, then cooperate to get what they both want from Jones. Instead, since Jack can't ever tell anyone the whole truth, he betrays his friend and forces him to carry out his plan, trusting to Will's luck and ingenuity to figure out what he needs to do.
i think jack's unwillingness to share is what makes his relationship with elizabeth special. have u noticed she is the only one he's ever just shared information with without needing anything?
I adore JE fanfics. they're the only ones I read, write, breath, admire...and there are so many well written JE fics. but i honestly don't think any JE fic can be true to Jack's character completely. unless it's 'just a fic' with JE moments but no entirely SPARRABETH fic(that is interesting to read) can ever capture the sense of Jack. that's why the movies were so entrancing...the movie wasn't about JE but JE was certainly the best part of the movie...
putting my Sparrabeth shipping aside...i don't think jack is a very romantic character unless it serves him...or it's just 'fake' sweet talking a strumpet to fall into bed with him. he might have feeling for elizabeth but that's just so out of character of him that he's not willing to accept it..
then again...i really don't think he's a drunk..
here's the discussion...how would YOU write him? what would be your main ingredients to writing him?
here's link to ff.net forum with the same topic. i think they have some great points..
http://www.fanfiction.net/topic/19552/733006/1/
don't let my rambling put you off...what do you think?