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These scans are posted out of sequence to show that the other Z Fighters couldn't see the beam that Freeza fired, much less dodge it, and then I show how easily Goku sees it, dodges it, and takes it head on, to show his reflexes, speed and durability in contrast to the others, who are far beyond human limits in those aspects themselves.
Goku in contrast to the epitome of organisms, (Piccolo, Vegeta, Gohan)


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Here Piccolo gathers Chi from Gohan and Kuririn, which encreases his strength enough to knock Freeza, who is tens of times more powerful than he is into the middle of a near by lake, and stun him for a few seconds, this proves that Z Fighters can take strength from other organisms, just like Superman can take strength from the sun.

Since Goku can use the Genki Dama, he can not just make a spirit bomb, but take the Chi from every living organism on Earth, or where ever he wants, and use it to multiply his strength and speed.

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good much better attempt

Nice job, but you need to put some more scans up...You should also put some scans up from the the dragonball manga showing his speed and strength feats from there and then comparing those feats with the feats from Dragonball Z

Originally posted by jltruth
Nice job, but you need to put some more scans up...You should also put some scans up from the the dragonball manga showing his speed and strength feats from there and then comparing those with feats with the feats from Dragonball Z

Thanks I will.

You might want to mention to that they can't willingly take it. Piccolo had to ask for it, and Gokou does also. Even in the Buu Saga the people of Earth had to willingly give up their energy it couldn't just be taken.

Originally posted by Kento
You might want to mention to that they can't willingly take it. Piccolo had to ask for it, and Gokou does also. Even in the Buu Saga the people of Earth had to willingly give up their energy it couldn't just be taken. actually it was ONLY in the buu saga he had to ask, but that is because he was taking a massive amount of energy. for minor energy, like he did on namek, he doesnt need permission.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
actually it was ONLY in the buu saga he had to ask, but that is because he was taking a massive amount of energy. for minor energy, like he did on namek, he doesnt need permission.


Actually he only took energy from unevolved organisms when he fought Freeza, it seems he has to ask for intellegent being's Chi, but not for the primative being's.

But their are so many more primitive beings than there are evolved, he can get more strength from the ones he doesn't have to ask for.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Actually he only took energy from unevolved organisms when he fought Freeza, it seems he has to ask for intellegent being's Chi, but not for the primative being's.

But their are so many more primitive beings than there are evolved, he can get more strength from the ones he doesn't have to ask for. very true, but there's always the matter of time. im not gonna make him look more powerful than he is. this move is pretty much useless againt anyone with half a brain and moderate speed. it takes him forever to charge the move, which is unfortunate.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
very true, but there's always the matter of time. im not gonna make him look more powerful than he is. this move is pretty much useless againt anyone with half a brain and moderate speed. it takes him forever to charge the move, which is unfortunate.

Why can't he do it before hand, like for prep?

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Why can't he do it before hand, like for prep? because, why does a fighter need prep? and if he gets prep, for him to gather all the energy in just the solar system would take at least a year not to mention the universe.

but lets either discuss this in a pm or diff thread, this is all about respect

He did ask the non-sentient organisms for ki in the Saiyan saga. Anyway, they obviously don't provide a lot, since it was the human ki that was needed in the Buu saga, what he had already wasn't nearly enough.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
He did ask the non-sentient organisms for ki in the Saiyan saga. Anyway, they obviously don't provide a lot, since it was the human ki that was needed in the Buu saga, what he had already wasn't nearly enough.

After the Buu saga all Goku would have to do is ask, and mankind would say yes, along with every other thing in the universe, which was what Goku used on Buu.

An every living being powered Super Saiyan Goku would slaughter even a Blood Lusted sun dipped Superman.



It'll take just as long as it did with Buu.

He only gathered energy from earth, the Nameks on their new planet, and King Enma.

There's no reason why random people from other planets who had never met him or heard of him would trust to give their energy.

Not to mention th Genki Dama is only useful against evil beings. Also, no shown feats of it even without that clause would come close to hurting Superman.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
He only gathered energy from earth, the Nameks on their new planet, and King Enma.

There's no reason why random people from other planets who had never met him or heard of him would trust to give their energy.

Not to mention th Genki Dama is only useful against evil beings. Also, no shown feats of it even without that clause would come close to hurting Superman.


Well he wouldn't be using the bomb, just converting the Chi into strength, so that he could be a physical match for Superman, and when Goku is around Superman in strength, speed and durability, you know Superman is screwed.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Well he wouldn't be using the bomb, just converting the Chi into strength, so that he could be a physical match for Superman, and when Goku is around Superman in strength, speed and durability, you know Superman is screwed. i dont believe he can do that. hes's never done that before. id say sundipped supes can beat goku ssj3, because thats a MAJOR powerboost, but other than that, goku still wins

Originally posted by chickenlover98
i dont believe he can do that. hes's never done that before. id say sundipped supes can beat goku ssj3, because thats a MAJOR powerboost, but other than that, goku still wins

Actually he has doner that, watch movie #7.

Anyway if Piccolo can take Chi from other organisms and convert it into strength, than why can't Goku, Goku did it in several of the movies.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Actually he has doner that, watch movie #7.

Anyway if Piccolo can take Chi from other organisms and convert it into strength, than why can't Goku, Goku did it in several of the movies. the movies arent canon thats why. they dont fit into any timeline in dbz, theyre completely random, and sometimes contradict things from the actual show and manga.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
After the Buu saga all Goku would have to do is ask, and mankind would say yes, along with every other thing in the universe, which was what Goku used on Buu.

An every living being powered Super Saiyan Goku would slaughter even a Blood Lusted sun dipped Superman.



It'll take just as long as it did with Buu. They don't know who Gokou is still so why would they give up energy to Gokou? It was Mr. Satan who made them give the energy and they thought it was to him. Even after the Buu Saga Gokou isn't going to get it by asking. But that's neither here nor there I actually agree with him being able to boost his power like that but getting the energy would be the hard part and getting it fast enough depending on where he is. Though I don't agree on the whole it being enough to make him over Supes but that arguement doesn't need to be in here.

I belive Goku can absorb the spirit bomb liek he does agaisnt super13, who cars if it sin a movie, he can do it !!

Originally posted by BradBalboa
I belive Goku can absorb the spirit bomb liek he does agaisnt super13, who cars if it sin a movie, he can do it !! just...........just..........................have a stroke. go away. let something happen so you stop making idiotic posts. please they hurt my poor wittle brain

ermm. oook rather odd since me and you always seemd ok with each other in these threads and then to say somthin as weird as that

Well if you read te Mnga Goku flys from one side of the Planet Namek to the other in literally an instant after he has heaed from fighting Ginyu, thats pretty fast

Originally posted by BradBalboa
ermm. oook rather odd since me and you always seemd ok with each other in these threads and then to say somthin as weird as that

Well if you read te Mnga Goku flys from one side of the Planet Namek to the other in literally an instant after he has heaed from fighting Ginyu, thats pretty fast

Um, no he doesn't. He flies an unspecified distance in an unspecified amount of time.

The movies are not canon.

Krillin and Gohan willingly lent their ki to Picollo.

Anyway since this whole respect thread is 99% based on non-canon stuff, it should be closed until someone can make a real one.

I think it just needs to be organized a bit...without any kind of suggestion about what he could do and more what he has done.

You think that maybe since this is the anime/manga forum, he is attempting to include character aspects from both the anime AND the manga? I don't see why he either has to make an anime or a manga thread and not both.

This canon staff do not aply to respect threads, this is not a versus.

actually piccolo was able to see it thats how he got hit he said watch out goku and jumped in the way

Originally posted by Vvendeta
This canon staff do not aply to respect threads, this is not a versus.

The non-canon stuff should at least be labeled as such.