Scathan+Living Tribunal vs Lucifer+Michael

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six6six
1st- Who would win between just: Scathan & Lucifer

...and then which team would triumph?

guy222
Scathan

Team One

fangirl101
Team 2 Easily. either of Team 2 could beat Both of Team one.

Xplosive
Scathan

Team One

fangirl101
Originally posted by Xplosive
Scathan

Team One

What the hell is Scathan going to do to lucifer or Mike? That is like saying Scathan beats The heart of the Universe.

Erik-Lensherr
Living Tribunal/Scathan.

fangirl101
Lucifer plus Michael=God's Power and Will.

The LT and Scathan don't come close. Scathan has one feat that isn't a feat. he muzzled a kid.

Unnatural-POWER
Originally posted by fangirl101
Lucifer plus Michael=God's Power and Will.

The LT and Scathan don't come close. Scathan has one feat that isn't a feat. he muzzled a kid.

Protege was a little more than just a kid pal.

Xplosive
Originally posted by fangirl101
What the hell is Scathan going to do to lucifer or Mike? That is like saying Scathan beats The heart of the Universe.

Sorry, but I have never seen close from Michael or Lucifer doing what THOTI did.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Lucifer plus Michael=God's Power and Will.

The LT and Scathan don't come close. Scathan has one feat that isn't a feat. he muzzled a kid.

Protege would own Michael or Lucifer on their own. Michael+Lucifer are needed to create realities. Don't you think someone like Protege can't do that? SW can do that easily. And many more can do that.
But Protege topped them all, even LT.
If there wasn't for Scathan, Protege would do to LT and others what THOTI did.

illadelph12
Energy Muzzle ftw.

guy222
Celestial muzzle, good friend

Mindset
Originally posted by fangirl101
Lucifer plus Michael=God's Power and Will.

The LT and Scathan don't come close. Scathan has one feat that isn't a feat. he muzzled a kid.

So Lucifer and Michael together would stalemate God?

Mr Master
Originally posted by fangirl101

What the hell is Scathan going to do to lucifer or Mike?
That is like saying Scathan beats The heart of the Universe.
I thought the Presence/GEB was the Supreme power of DC?

Wait, so:
Originally posted by Mindset

Lucifer and Michael together would stalemate God?
hm

iceman24567
Originally posted by Mindset
So Lucifer and Michael together would stalemate God? Nah doubtful.

Mr Master
Originally posted by iceman24567

Nah doubtful.
I believe Mindset is being sarcastic, and with good reason.

Sardonicism is called for with such outlandish claims being perpetrated.

quanchi112
Team 1 dominates.

iceman24567
Originally posted by Mr Master
I believe Mindset is being sarcastic, and with good reason.

Sardonicism is called for with such outlandish claims being perpetrated. Oh really well the only thing i can say about this thread is feat wise Lucifer has done much more than Scathan not sure if that gives him the auto win confused . Scathans only showing makes me sick because it makes it hard to gauge out his power level he can "muzzle" a being that was equal to the Lt but does that mean he was equal to Protege and the Lt? i already confused the hell out of myself i need a beer.

Knowsbleed33
Has anyone considered the theory that Scathan was TOAA in physical representation? He has appeared on panel before. He once appeared as a bum to Spider man.

fangirl101
Originally posted by Mr Master
I thought the Presence/GEB was the Supreme power of DC?

Wait, so:

hm

The Presence is The Presence. The Light and the GEB fought and merged I suppose. Kinda wierd. That was a DC story gone vertigo or something like that. Vertigo upsets things quite nicely cuz some stuff is canon to DC and stuff is not. Can never tell for sure. Anyway, Lucifer is God's will. Mikey is God's power. So how is Scathan going to beat either of those? He's going to muzzle Lucifer? LMAO. Out power mikey? Nope. Gotta do better than that.

occultdestroyer
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Has anyone considered the theory that Scathan was TOAA in physical representation? He has appeared on panel before. He once appeared as a bum to Spider man.

That wasn't Scathan. That was TOAA himself.
Scathan is nothing but a mere pawn to TOAA.

Mr Master
Originally posted by fangirl101

The Presence is The Presence. The Light and the GEB fought and merged I suppose. Kinda wierd. That was a DC story gone vertigo or something like that. Vertigo upsets things quite nicely cuz some stuff is canon to DC and stuff is not. Can never tell for sure.
thumb up Jun gave me a thorough explanation concerning the clash of canon and not in DC.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Anyway, Lucifer is God's will. Mikey is God's power.
Sounds like together, they are the supreme power of DC. (besides the Presence)

(although air legend proved conclusively that they posses their own power and will)

In which case a question was asked,
can both of them stalemate the Presence?

fangirl101
Originally posted by Mr Master
thumb up Jun gave me a thorough explanation concerning the clash of canon and not in DC.


Sounds like they are "God"

(although air legend proved conclusively that they posses their own power and will)

In which case a question was asked,
can both of them stalemate the Presence?

Power wise, they probably could. But they lack something that the presence has, Omnicience. In that, he would figure a way to win, create a doubt in lucifer, or something like that. He would make mikey's power falter and back fire or something like that. I can't see them winning forever. But They could stalemate until the Presence looks into time and sees a victory.

It takes Supreme Will, Supreme Power, and Supreme Knowlege to be God. Even thanos with the heart had will and power, but didn't have the knowlege. Hence why he was used by the true God.

Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
That wasn't Scathan. That was TOAA himself.
Scathan is nothing but a mere pawn to TOAA.

You missed the point entirely.

Mr Master
Originally posted by fangirl101

Power wise, they probably could. But they lack something that the presence has, Omnicience. In that, he would figure a way to win, create a doubt in lucifer, or something like that. He would make mikey's power falter and back fire or something like that. I can't see them winning forever. But They could stalemate until the Presence looks into time and sees a victory.

It takes Supreme Will, Supreme Power, and Supreme Knowlege to be God.

So for the record, in your opinion,
you really believe Mike and Lucy would stalemate the Presence "power wise?"

Which basically translates to,
the Presence is not the supreme power in DC?
Originally posted by fangirl101

Even thanos with the heart had will and power,
but didn't have the knowlege. Hence why he was used by the true God.
That's nice,
but no one was ever going to stalemate or defeat THOTI (supreme power) in Marvel.

TOAA is inconsequential,
because the THOTI/Thanos and the entire story, as well as all of Marvel,
was/is nothing but ink and paper to TOAA.

fangirl101
Originally posted by Mr Master
So for the record, in your opinion,
you really believe Mike and Lucy would stalemate the Presence "power wise?"

Which basically translates to,
the Presence is not the supreme power in DC?

That's nice,
but no one was ever going to stalemate or defeat THOTI (supreme power) in Marvel.

TOAA is inconsequential,
because the THOTI/Thanos and the entire story, as well as all of Marvel,
was/is nothing but ink and paper to TOAA.

Lucifer is God's Will. Mikey is God's power. Technically, God would be fighting with himself.

kevdude
Thats crazy, they do not equal him at all, while meeting with there father he kept them from doing anything until he sent them back to the universe, they could do NOTHING..

Mr Master
thumb up

That's what I thought,
it didn't seem logical
that anyone (including everyone) in DC, could stalemate it's supreme being.

Thanx for clearing that up Kev.

fangirl101
Originally posted by kevdude
Thats crazy, they do not equal him at all, while meeting with there father he kept them from doing anything until he sent them back to the universe, they could do NOTHING..

Of course, He has ALL of the requirements to be the supreme being. As I said before. They only make up 2/3rds of a Supreme being.

Mr Master
Originally posted by fangirl101

Of course, He has ALL of the requirements to be the supreme being.
As I said before. They only make up 2/3rds of a Supreme being.
Not even 1% of the Supreme being, even less than that into an infinitesimal dot.

What I got from Kev and other DC cosmic pros,
is that they're insignificant to the Presence,
not 2/3rds, not a 1/2, but literally they are nothing to the Presence.

As it should be.

The Presence should be able to dispatch both Mike and Lucy
and the rest of DC with a gesture,
with a thought,
meh, with the thought, of a thought.

guy222
Presence>Michael

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452585_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo02.jpg http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452586_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo03.jpg http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452587_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo04.jpg http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452588_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo05.jpg

Team 2 still

fangirl101
Originally posted by Mr Master
Not even 1% of the Supreme being, even less than that into an infinitesimal dot.

What I got from Kev and other DC cosmic pros,
is that they're insignificant to the Presence,
not 2/3rds, not a 1/2, but literally they are nothing to the Presence.

As it should be.

The Presence should be able to dispatch both Mike and Lucy
and the rest of DC with a gesture,
with a thought,
meh, with the thought, of a thought.

Of course mike and lucy are still aspects of himself. I could if I wanted, rid myself of my arm. It is my arm. But that same arm allows me to do many things. nearly half of my activity would come from just my left arm. It is mine. It has my strength. And yet, If I wanted to, i could pwn it with any number of actions. If it had it's own mind, it would be able to put up a fight I suppose and still lose as the whole body would be greater than the part. Mike is still god's power. and Lucy is still God's will. either of them are too much for the LT and Scathan.

Pyron_Knight
Yo Guy.
\I'd say Great Evil Beast could flick Lucy and Michael out of existence big grin To add onto what Mr. M was saying about their power being insignificant to that of the Presence.

fangirl101
Originally posted by guy222
Presence>Michael

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452585_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo02.jpg http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452586_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo03.jpg http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452587_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo04.jpg http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452588_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo05.jpg

Team 2 still

The Presence could do that to The LT and scathan as well. Doesn't change the fact that mikey is still the power of God. TOAA could do the same to Thanos with the heart could he not? And yet thanos is above The LT and Scathan when in possession of the heart.

guy222
I say easily also

How u been friend

fangirl101
Originally posted by guy222
I say easily also

How u been friend

The evening is boring. But I'm good. And you?

guy222
Originally posted by fangirl101
The Presence could do that to The LT and scathan as well. Doesn't change the fact that mikey is still the power of God. TOAA could do the same to Thanos with the heart could he not? And yet thanos is above The LT and Scathan when in possession of the heart.

The Heart no longer exists

Marvel...TOAA>LT

DC...Presence>Michael>Lucifer>Spectre

Pyron_Knight
I've been pretty good. Raining here a lot but that helps with the heat.
And yourself?

guy222
Originally posted by fangirl101
The evening is boring. But I'm good. And you?

Doin good, friend

U have a good evening. I'll be back in a bit

guy222
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
I've been pretty good. Raining here a lot but that helps with the heat.
And yourself?

Nice and cool in Cali

I'm doin good. My Dad is very sick. Keeping the faith

Pyron_Knight
Kay. You have a good one and see you around.

guy222
Likewise

Be back in a bit

Mr Master
Originally posted by fangirl101

Of course mike and lucy are still aspects of himself. I could if I wanted, rid myself of my arm. It is my arm. But that same arm allows me to do many things. nearly half of my activity would come from just my left arm. It is mine. It has my strength. And yet, If I wanted to, i could pwn it with any number of actions. If it had it's own mind, it would be able to put up a fight I suppose and still lose as the whole body would be greater than the part.
What?

Again, what?

What kind of an analogy is this?

If you cut your right arm off,
you can never have that right arm replaced with flesh and blood,
if you can only pleasure yourself with your right arm, and then you cut it off,
you'll have to learn how to do your thing with your left arm.

So you're dependent on that right arm for said actions
amongst so many others actions I haven't mentioned.

Now back to reality:

The Presence doesn't need Mike or Lucy for anything, anything at all.

The Presence can decide to make Batman Mike, or make Darkseid Lucy,
or heck, the Presence can simply decide to get rid of the divine hierarchy all together,
and he'd still be the Presence, with ALL of his ability/power/will and status,
meh,
the Presence wouldn't be affected at all with the nullification of Mike/Lucy
or all of DC for that matter.

Unlike you and your arm ... that was actually funny. laughing out loud


So ...


Your analogy is way off friend.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Mike is still god's power. and Lucy is still God's will.
either of them are too much for the LT and Scathan.
... and no.

illadelph12
Originally posted by guy222
http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452585_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo02.jpg http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452586_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo03.jpg http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452587_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo04.jpg http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452588_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo05.jpg


Energy Muzzle ftw.

Mr Master
Originally posted by illadelph12

Energy Muzzle ftw.
laughing out loud thumb up

fangirl101
LT has created how many realities on panel? He supplies how much energy to everything? Scathan has now many feats? Yeah.

Mr Master
Originally posted by fangirl101

LT has created how many realities on panel?
LT is not a designated creator, he's the Marvel cosmic judge of realities/beings.

But if you must:

LT held in one hand the power of Two MegaverseS like a child's toys.
LT spins the destiny of the Alpha and Omega in the other hand.

The LT was once going to replace the 616 Reality with the Ultimate Universe,
to do that he would've had to reconfigure all of Marvel.
Originally posted by fangirl101

He supplies how much energy to everything?
The LT could be the embodiment of Marvel if he wanted,
but since he is a conceptual entity that must follow protocol,
he must be apart:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452761_LT.jpg

Originally posted by fangirl101

Scathan has now many feats? Yeah.
The only one he needs.

Xplosive
Originally posted by fangirl101
Power wise, they probably could.

No they can't. Because everything that was given to them, was by God. God takes that away from that with less than a blink of an eye, if he wants. Everything TOAA could do within Omniverse, Protege could do (especially because Protege would do to LT and others what THOTI did, if there wasn't for Schatan, but THOTI would own Protege). But when they would face each other, Protege would really be nothing to TOAA.
Everything The Presence can do, Michael+Lucifer could do, but when they would face him, they would be nothing to him, if God would chose so.

Michael+Lucifer do not equal God, not even close.

Erik-Lensherr
Both of them combined wouldn't be able to stalemate God mostly because against Gyges and Garamas who had taken God's power after he left and they still haven't fully adapted to it, they were both useless attacking directly.

Anyway ..

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Living Tribunal/Scathan.

I'm willing to debate against Lucifer/Michael. Come on people, bring arguments. stick out tongue

occultdestroyer
Originally posted by guy222
Presence>Michael

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452585_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo02.jpg http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452586_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo03.jpg http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452587_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo04.jpg http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/452588_spectre_v3_61_ocd_pharo05.jpg

Team 2 still

Mr. M, how can you refute this on-panel evidence?
Without a doubt, The Presence is more powerful than Scathan, LT, Michael, Spectre, and Lucifer combined.

Mr Master
Originally posted by occultdestroyer

Mr. M, how can you refute this on-panel evidence?
Without a doubt, The Presence is more powerful than Scathan, LT, Michael, Spectre, and Lucifer combined.
dontgetit ... Dude, why are you calling out my name?

When did I ever say
in this or any thread that Scathan and/or LT win or stalemate the Presence?

You got an itch with me, take it up with the Mods,
but don't be shouting my name out without reason, thanx. smile

Mr Master
In fact,

I was actually defending the Presence on page 2:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=487008&pagenumber=2


This cat claimed:
Originally posted by fangirl101

Of course,
He has ALL of the requirements to be the supreme being.
As I said before.

They (Michael & Lucifer) only make up 2/3rds of a Supreme being.
I responded with:
Originally posted by Mr Master

Not even 1% of the Supreme being,
even less than that into an infinitesimal dot.

What I got from Kev and other DC cosmic pros,
is that they're insignificant to the Presence,
not 2/3rds, not a 1/2, but literally they are nothing to the Presence.

As it should be.

The Presence should be able to dispatch both Mike and Lucy
and the rest of DC with a gesture,
with a thought,
meh, with the thought, of a thought.
Sorry I barked at ya occult,
but I dislike when cats misconstrued my opinion and/or factual statements.

Any how, as you can see,
I agree with your post. smile

illadelph12
Energy Muzzle ftw.

Mr Master
laughing out loud ... swank

occultdestroyer
Originally posted by Mr Master

Any how, as you can see,
I agree with your post. smile

Whoops. Sorry. My bad.
I misunderstood which side you were on.

And yes, Scathan and LT are quarks compared to the supreme power of The Presence.

fangirl101
Lucifer has taken the power that sustains all to the face and shaped it to his whim. The LT when facing the same type of power in the heart, which is where all energy from marvel came from according to the panels, got absorbed. Lucy>>>>>>>LT.

Mikey sustains all and supplied the power to create all. Scathan has beaten someone with LT's power and obviously none of his omnicience.

Team two wins HARD.

Mr Master
Originally posted by fangirl101

Lucifer has taken the power that sustains all to the face and shaped it to his whim.
The LT when facing the same type of power in the heart,
which is where all energy from marvel came from according to the panels,
got absorbed.
Please, show us the Presence attacking Lucy and Lucy withstanding the attack.

If you're talking about Mike's energy,
which Lucy was created to shape,
you got nothing.

Mike doe NOT = the Presence.

I thought every Kev and every DC cosmic pro already updated you on that?

Meh, not surprisingly you return with the same claim as though you saw it.
Originally posted by fangirl101

Lucy>>>>>>>LT.
LT>>>>>>>>Lucy.

See, it's easy to just post empty opinions.
Originally posted by fangirl101

Mikey sustains all and supplied the power to create all.
The Alien Entity now embodies the "engines of creation" itself,
Past/Present/and Future.
Those engines are what create/sustain everything

yawn

Originally posted by fangirl101

Scathan has beaten someone with LT's power
and obviously none of his omnicience.
And how do you know LT's omniscience is = to or greater than Scathan's?

You don't.

If Scathan is even = to the LT,
he's definitely outside the influence of LT's omniscience,
since they are = peers.
Originally posted by fangirl101

Team two wins HARD.
Team one wins HARD.

Again,
it's easy to just post empty opinions.

quanchi112
Originally posted by fangirl101
Lucifer has taken the power that sustains all to the face and shaped it to his whim. The LT when facing the same type of power in the heart, which is where all energy from marvel came from according to the panels, got absorbed. Lucy>>>>>>>LT.

Mikey sustains all and supplied the power to create all. Scathan has beaten someone with LT's power and obviously none of his omnicience.

Team two wins HARD. Lucy has never taken on a supreme being an dbeaten him by power alone. If you feel he has post the fight please.

Mikey sustains all the power for the vertigo universe not the dcu imo.

Scathan has a feat pwning someone with multiversal power. Show me a scan of either Michael or Lucy doing this please.

Mr Master
Originally posted by quanchi112

Lucy has never taken on a supreme being an dbeaten him by power alone.
If you feel he has post the fight please.
thumb up
Originally posted by quanchi112

Scathan has a feat pwning someone with multiversal power.
If Protege copied LT's power, which he did,
then that would place Protege on an Omniversal scale. smile

quanchi112
Originally posted by Mr Master
thumb up

If Protege copied LT's power, which he did,
then that would place Protege on an Omniversal scale. smile True that. I just want to see a scan of either of these other two beating someone with multiversal power. I just keep hearing a downplaying of what the Lt and Scathan have done. I need to see some battle feats from this other team to even think they are in this fight.

fangirl101
Originally posted by Mr Master
Please, show us the Presence attacking Lucy and Lucy withstanding the attack.

If you're talking about Mike's energy,
which Lucy was created to shape,
you got nothing.

Mike doe NOT = the Presence.

I thought every Kev and every DC cosmic pro already updated you on that?

Meh, not surprisingly you return with the same claim as though you saw it.

LT>>>>>>>>Lucy.

See, it's easy to just post empty opinions.

The Alien Entity now embodies the "engines of creation" itself,
Past/Present/and Future.
Those engines are what create/sustain everything

yawn


And how do you know LT's omniscience is = to or greater than Scathan's?

You don't.

If Scathan is even = to the LT,
he's definitely outside the influence of LT's omniscience,
since they are = peers.

Team one wins HARD.

Again,
it's easy to just post empty opinions.

Your entire post sucks. first and formost, there are no DC experts here. And there are certainly no marvel experts here. There are big mouths with opinions who think if they insult enough and post enough pics, they are somehow experts. Omnicience greater than omnicience. That sounds retarded. All knowing is just that. either you know all or you don't.

The heart of the universe doesn't equal the one above all. Your point about mike? try again.

Scathan isn't equal to the LT. since Scathan never defeated the LT. He only beat someone who copied the lt's abilities which rendered them outside of the LT's sphere of Judgment. Protege still didn't have the ability to judge scathan. That can only be given by the one above all.
A.Hole.!!

Erik-Lensherr
Originally posted by quanchi112
Lucy has never taken on a supreme being an dbeaten him by power alone. If you feel he has post the fight please.


I'm not the one seeing what's wrong with this .. am I ? laughing out loud

quanchi112
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I'm not the one seeing what's wrong with this .. am I ? laughing out loud Explain what is wrong with it?

Erik-Lensherr
Originally posted by quanchi112
Explain what is wrong with it?

The fact that it contains your logic.

How the f*ck could Lucifer, or any character, beat a supreme being by power alone ?

To think that after your debate with Nvr and the months that followed, I actually started to think better of you. erm

quanchi112
Originally posted by fangirl101
Lucifer has taken the power that sustains all to the face and shaped it to his whim. The LT when facing the same type of power in the heart, which is where all energy from marvel came from according to the panels, got absorbed. Lucy>>>>>>>LT.

Mikey sustains all and supplied the power to create all. Scathan has beaten someone with LT's power and obviously none of his omnicience.

Team two wins HARD.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
The fact that it contains your logic.

How the f*ck could Lucifer, or any character, beat a supreme being by power alone ?

To think that after your debate with Nvr and the months that followed, I actually started to think better of you. erm Read the fangirl quote. She acted as if the Lt being absorbed by a supreme being was a strike against him it wasnt. Thats why I said what I said.

illadelph12
Originally posted by quanchi112
Explain what is wrong with it?

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
The fact that it contains your logic.

laughing

Damn...

quanchi112
Originally posted by illadelph12
laughing

Damn... And you want me on your house of zod site.

mad

Send me various pms begging for my forgiveness at once. wink

fangirl101
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
The fact that it contains your logic.

How the f*ck could Lucifer, or any character, beat a supreme being by power alone ?

To think that after your debate with Nvr and the months that followed, I actually started to think better of you. erm

Surely you Jest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr Master
Originally posted by fangirl101

Your entire post sucks.
Of course it does, it proves you wrong, so what else are you gonna say about it.

Originally posted by fangirl101

A.Hole.!!
I told ya I wouldn't entertain or tolerate personal attacks anymore.

Reported for member bashing ... smile

Mr Master
Funny how a poster can claim Lucy and Mike can stalemate the Presence,
and that's not laughed at,
said poster goes ahead and claims Lucy can withstand the power of the Presence,
and that's also not laughed at.

But when a poster asks for the evidence to back that fallacy up,
it's exclusively pointed out as an absurd thought.

Jeesh, the selective bias is amazing.

Raoul
Originally posted by fangirl101
Your entire post sucks. first and formost, there are no DC experts here. And there are certainly no marvel experts here. There are big mouths with opinions who think if they insult enough and post enough pics, they are somehow experts. Omnicience greater than omnicience. That sounds retarded. All knowing is just that. either you know all or you don't.

The heart of the universe doesn't equal the one above all. Your point about mike? try again.

Scathan isn't equal to the LT. since Scathan never defeated the LT. He only beat someone who copied the lt's abilities which rendered them outside of the LT's sphere of Judgment. Protege still didn't have the ability to judge scathan. That can only be given by the one above all.
A.Hole.!!

you are way out of line, so stop.

fangirl101
Originally posted by Raoul
you are way out of line, so stop. Shall I show where he was out of line? And the many many times. he's insluted SEVERAL posters in just a few weeks. Really. And my post is nothign compared to the stuff I've seen thrown at quan recently. My god. And me telling him his post sucks is an insult? I've seen that so many times form people it's crazy.

guy222
Friend, its best to listen to the mods

If ur favoring DC cool. IMO and others they don't win this one

fangirl101
Originally posted by Mr Master
Funny how a poster can claim Lucy and Mike can stalemate the Presence,
and that's not laughed at,
said poster goes ahead and claims Lucy can withstand the power of the Presence,
and that's also not laughed at.

But when a poster asks for the evidence to back that fallacy up,
it's exclusively pointed out as an absurd thought.

Jeesh, the selective bias is amazing.
funny how a poster can claim that Thanos was the supreme being when Thanos couldn't even fix his own flaw.

Funny how a poster can claim the beyonder was God when it even says he was god LIKE. And the interview says he was BASICALLY God.

Funny how a poster doesn't understand what abstract means. God's will given form. Lucy. God's power given form. Mike. How hard it is to understand that.

Funny how a poster can claim that the LT is omnicient in one sentence and then claim he's not to back up scathan? Two Omnicient beings who don't know all?

fangirl101
Originally posted by guy222
Friend, its best to listen to the mods

If ur favoring DC cool. IMO and others they don't win this one
The mods have thier favorites. That is fine with me. Nothing new. I've sen quan bashed quite a bit. But as long as it's the right poeple doing it, it's ok.

How does one beat Mikey in God's full glory? Hmm? the guy who sustains all creation? Does the LT sustain all creation? What feats do scathan have? he has ONE. And it's not even clear cut. In a PIS ridden story.

illadelph12
Energy muzzle ftw.

guy222
LT/Scathan the Approver FTW

occultdestroyer
Originally posted by guy222
Friend, its best to listen to the mods

If ur favoring DC cool. IMO and others they don't win this one

Nah.
The mods are the oppressors in these forums.
They ban or block you, but they also insult you.
What a load of bullshit.
cool smokin'

iceman24567
Team two fights threw the lame muzzle plot device and one shot team 1

Knowsbleed33
Team 1.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Nah.
The mods are the oppressors in these forums.
They ban or block you, but they also insult you.
What a load of bullshit.
cool smokin' i busted a gut reading this. *wipes tear*

guy222
team one

fangirl101
Team two. Scathan has one Feat. One. beating up on a kid.

cloud102
Team 2.

Knowsbleed33
Team 1.

guy222
thumb up

Board Walker
Team 2, so were talking about guys here who have multiversal level power feats here? Being able to destroy and make multiverses.

Show me a feat that Lt has done that puts him above destroying/making a multiverse from nothing.

HOTU? Its been shown on the LT's bio, as well as a marvel cannon them self on their site, that the events of the end series, happened soley in the earth 4321 universe.

HOTU was limited to purely one universe, stated by marvel themselves, cannon.

Mindset
Well LT held a megaverse in each hand showing control over them

Mr. Slippyfist
Scathan... laughing out loud

Philosophía
Originally posted by Mindset
Well LT held a megaverse in each hand showing control over them

No.

Mindset

Philosophía
Originally posted by Mindset
Yes?

No ..

Mindset
Oh, it was 2 megaverses in one hand.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Mindset
Oh, it was 2 megaverses in one hand.

No.

Mindset
You saying no doesn't make it not exist.

Philosophía
You stating it without any kind of proof doesn't make it exist.

Mindset
Yes it does, my stating it brought it into existence.

Knowsbleed33

Philosophía
Originally posted by Mindset
Yes it does, my stating it brought it into existence.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Concession accepted.

Board Walker
That story with the LT holding the two brothers, each claimed a megaverse who will fight one another for all infinite, is not cannon.

It was a cross over with DC, and Marvel, marvel wanted to continue it, DC did not, thus it was not cannon.

The only cannon cross over between marvel and DC to date is the avengers cross over which happened a few years ago, because both companies acknowledged the events which happened in that cross over in both of their comics continuity after it.

Mindset
Originally posted by Board Walker
That story with the LT holding the two brothers, each claimed a megaverse who will fight one another for all infinite, is not cannon.

It was a cross over with DC, and Marvel, marvel wanted to continue it, DC did not, thus it was not cannon.

The only cannon cross over between marvel and DC to date is the avengers cross over which happened a few years ago, because both companies acknowledged the events which happened in that cross over in both of their comics continuity after it.

Did Marvel ever mention the Avengers crossover in any other comics?

Board Walker
Originally posted by Mindset
Did Marvel ever mention the Avengers crossover in any other comics?

Marvel acknowledged it in the game masters bio, while DC incorporated it into their next series story line.

Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by Board Walker
That story with the LT holding the two brothers, each claimed a megaverse who will fight one another for all infinite, is not cannon.

It was a cross over with DC, and Marvel, marvel wanted to continue it, DC did not, thus it was not cannon.

The only cannon cross over between marvel and DC to date is the avengers cross over which happened a few years ago, because both companies acknowledged the events which happened in that cross over in both of their comics continuity after it. Wasn't the 'megaverse' incident in some What-If?

Therefore making it canon to whats-his-face?

Philosophía
They were never mentioned as embodiements of Megaverses in the comic anyway, and only as architects of ones in Living Tribunal's bio.

And considering their 'massive battle' was only releasing energy enough to vaporize galaxies, something tells me that they weren't that strong.

Board Walker
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Wasn't the 'megaverse' incident in some What-If?

Therefore making it canon to whats-his-face?

Well if it would have happened in a what if, that would mean by technicality of marvels set up, it would have occured some where in the marvel omniverse, since all what ifs are part of the marvel omniverse.

However it was not a what if, it was a cross over comic between Marvel and DC, which was titled Marvel Vs DC.

Then the whole amalgam saga came after that which was also part of the cross over towards the end where marvel and dc characters were fused and mixed.

In the end of the series how ever, DC did not put it into any of their continuity or acknowledge its cannon, thus it was dropped from both companies continuity in terms of cannon since both of them did not acknowledge it.

Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by Board Walker
Well if it would have happened in a what if, that would mean by technicality of marvels set up, it would have occured some where in the marvel omniverse, since all what ifs are part of the marvel omniverse.

However it was not a what if, it was a cross over comic between Marvel and DC, which was titled Marvel Vs DC.

Then the whole amalgam saga came after that which was also part of the cross over towards the end where marvel and dc characters were fused and mixed.

In the end of the series how ever, DC did not put it into any of their continuity or acknowledge its cannon, thus it was dropped from both companies continuity in terms of cannon since both of them did not acknowledge it. LT was shown having sex with the megaverses in a What-If I believe.

Which would make any mention of the crossover completely meaningless.

abhilegend
Bump

MrMind
either team 2 solos

operator616
LT/Scathan win in an overwhelmingly one-sided battle.

abhilegend
Originally posted by operator616
LT/Scathan win in an overwhelmingly one-sided battle.
Is that so? Based on what exactly?

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