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Karnak should win

Iron Fist, followed by Shang Chi.

Originally posted by Eel O'Brian
Iron Fist, followed by Shang Chi.
what i figured would happen

Recent Iron Fist should take it, if not him then Karnak.

A year or 2 ago I'd say Karnak, now I'd give it to Iron Fist.

Iron Fist or Shang Chi.

Shang is much more durable. Fist has a much higher damage output.

I lean towards Iron Fist.

Shang Chi could try and hit Karnak, but it wouldn't be hard for him to block in a way that would ruin Shang Chi's hand or arm.

Most Wolverine fanboys here have some kind of unreasonable hate towards Karnak, and ignore the mass of superhuman showings he has.

IF
Shang
Karnak

I doubt any of these guys could one-shot the vision

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/4471/avengersv1ann1229yq3.jpg

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t464155.html

Or suvive being hit by an enraged Black Bolt or Gorgon
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8141/daredevilv127813hp0.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7518/fantasticfourv141113kg4.jpg

Originally posted by llagrok
Shang Chi could try and hit Karnak, but it wouldn't be hard for him to block in a way that would ruin Shang Chi's hand or arm.

Most Wolverine fanboys here have some kind of unreasonable hate towards Karnak, and ignore the mass of superhuman showings he has.

He's been beaten by Black Panther.

Karnak abilities won't be any more useful against Fist and Chi then a pressure point. He finds structural weak points, the human body doesn't have structural weak points that will make your body explode or instantly rupture all your organs or anything like that. He is going to be attacking the same weak points both Shang and Fists are: knees, joints, pressure points. Unless they both have small fractures all along their bones or something they won't have any weaknesses to exploit, that they can't similarly exploit against Karnak himself.


Some Shang Chi feats.

Wisdom 03: Skill / Speed / Durability / Chi

Shang Chi confronts a dragon in human form. He ends up fight a score of gangsters and totally decimates them with out taking a single hit. The bar keep tries to shoot Shang Chi, but he shows his bullet time speed. Then he starts fighting the Dragon... and stops half way through the fight to have a brief conversation WHILE STANDING ON THE CEILING. The dragon shifts out of his human form and lands a colossal upper cut on Shang Chi that rockets him through the building and thousands of feet into the air. The dragon flys up to catch him on his way down and they both slam hard into the ground. Shang Chi is unhurt... in fact he is happy.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/Wisdom03pg09.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/Wisdom03pg11.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/Wisdom03pg14.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/Wisdom03pg15.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/Wisdom03pg17.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/Wisdom03pg18.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/Wisdom03pg19.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/Wisdom03pg20.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/Wisdom03pg21.jpg

Heroes for Hire 12: Strength / Skill / Chi

Shang Chi amps his body to take a direct punch from Hiroim. Hiroim posses the Old Strong, which gives him Hulk like strength among other abilities. Shang Chi briefly grapples with him before being over powered.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/Heroes_for_Hire_12_10Strength-1.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/Heroes_for_Hire_12_12Strength-1.jpg


Marvel Comics Presents 156: Skill / Speed

Shang Chi spins around so fast he creates a miniature tornado that conceals his body. He then moves out of the tornado and flanks his opponents with out them realising it. Takes of the shooters down with a subtle tap to the neck and blitzes another.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/MarvelComicsPresents156b-11-1.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/MarvelComicsPresents156b-12-1.jpg

Marvel Comics Presents 158: Skill / Chi

Shang Chi uses one of his chi abilities - the Silent Scream - to end his fight with Lazarus. It shatters all the windows in the church he is fighting in and kos Lazarus.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/MarvelComicsPresents158b-16-1.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/MarvelComicsPresents158b-17-1.jpg

IF easy

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Heroes for Hire 12: Strength / Skill / Chi

Shang Chi amps his body to take a direct punch from Hiroim. Hiroim posses the Old Strong, which gives him Hulk like strength among other abilities. Shang Chi briefly grapples with him before being over powered.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/Heroes_for_Hire_12_10Strength-1.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/shangchirespectthread/Heroes_for_Hire_12_12Strength-1.jpg

Karnak was hit by Black Bolt and got up.

Shang Chi was near death after that punch from Hiroim and he didn't amp hismelf to take the punch, he used a sh technique to divide the impact or something. So that ALL of his body took the hit, instead of just his arm.

Bodies have structural weak points as well, Stan Lee stated that Karnak found the Hulk's and he was able to use his powers to one-shot fricking Gorgon. So I don't see why he couldn't find one on these two.

Losing against Black Panther is the only low showing that Karnak has.

Losing against Black Panther twice are the only showings Karnak has against A-Street levelers.

Originally posted by Soljer
Losing against Black Panther twice are the only showings Karnak has against A-Street levelers.

He was mind controlled once.

Originally posted by Soljer
Losing against Black Panther twice are the only showings Karnak has against A-Street levelers.

Was Hudlin the writer?

Prolly

Anyhoo

Danny still

shang-chi

Srank's ignorance notwithstanding, Iron Fist still wins

Shang Chi.

not karnak.

Iron Fist circa 1978 would win this.

Anything post Claremont and Priest (Or Owlsely, as he was called back then) becomes a stomp.