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Which is why one just set the new production car lap record on Nurburgring Nordschleife!!!

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=128071

Hell yeah Corvette ZR1!!!

http://www.thetorquereport.com/2009_chevrolet_corvette_zr1_new.jpg

I don't believe there are truly American Cars anymore, sadly enough.

I do like my Prizm....great on gas mileage, since this is a big concern now.

This is mine.

Notice the color...Hehe...hides the dust and crap...

Originally posted by Deja~vu
I don't believe there are truly American Cars anymore, sadly enough.

I do like my Prizm....great on gas mileage, since this is a big concern now.

This is mine.

Notice the color...Hehe...hides the dust and crap...

Very smart.

It's not really what I'd like, but for now, I'll take it. What I really want is a Mercedes! They have some great models...

Japanese cars all the way.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Japanese cars all the way.

Unless a german car's around :P

if i was having an american car it'd still be the GT-40...or a shelby GR1

cadillac escalade or chevy tahoe for me

if i had the money

or the gas

American cars are built by people with no concept of turning.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Japanese cars all the way.

Hell yeah! I had an '87 Toyota Camry way back and that thing wouldnt die. It had over 220,000 miles.

Originally posted by jaden101
if i was having an american car it'd still be the GT-40...or a shelby GR1

Those sound nice.

I love old school 60's and 70's American cars. I am happy to see them going sorta back to that with the new Mustangs and Challenger.

Chevy....nuff said.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
Which is why one just set the new production car lap record on Nurburgring Nordschleife!!!

Hell yeah Corvette ZR1!!!


For the most part, American cars are shit.

Speed isn't everything in a car. If that Vette is like every other Vette built from the 70's on, it will drive like shit by the time it hits 50k miles. The dash/interior will have squeaks and rattles, the seats won't be as supportive and you'll probably have it in Mota's shop one day for every 20 you drive it.

Still, for the price you get supercar-like performance. Just be ready to trade it in before you rack up the mileage.

Originally posted by Robtard
the seats won't be as supportive and you'll probably have it in Mota's shop one day for every 20 you drive it.



They man's gotta work, right?

unless it is vintage it would take a lot to convince me into even considering the purchase of another American car. I'm sticking with Korean and japanese cars. My Hyundai has treated me better than a high class hooker would. My last car, Subaru, lasted me 6 six years without ever needing any type of costly repairs. I had a ford once, for two years. It was in the shop more than it was on the road.

Now if you just put modern in the title, I would agree. Today's American cars look the same, look like Japanese cookie cutters, and only last about 8 years. It's not like the 50's, 60's and 70's when you could instantly tell a model and year simply by glimpsing at a taillight, and they lasted forever.

Originally posted by AngryManatee


Hell yeah Corvette ZR1!!!


http://www.thetorquereport.com/2009_chevrolet_corvette_zr1_new.jpg

Hell no! It looks like cross between a Nissan Z and a Mazda RX-8. And that's exactly what I'm talking about, when I say American Muscle has become emasculated, and don't even look American anymore. I can totally burn that piece of crap on a quarter-mile in a '67 Stingray. No jokes.

Originally posted by KidRock
I love old school 60's and 70's American cars. I am happy to see them going sorta back to that with the new Mustangs and Challenger.

I completely agree with your first statement, and disagree with the other. The new muscle cars are nothing like the originals, not only do they look different, they sound and feel different. I once owned a '65 Stang, and the roar and power was unbelievable. I've ridden in and driven modern ones hoping to experience the same, but they didn't even come close. Today's pussy-ass sounding Mustangs are just glorified soccermom cars.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Now if you just put modern in the title, I would agree. Today's American cars look the same, look like Japanese cookie cutters, and only last about 8 years. It's not like the 50's, 60's and 70's when you could instantly tell a model and year simply by glimpsing at a taillight, and they lasted forever.



Hell no! It looks like cross between a Nissan Z and a Mazda RX-8. And that's exactly what I'm talking about, when I say American Muscle has become emasculated, and don't even look American anymore. I can totally burn that piece of crap on a quarter-mile in a '67 Stingray. No jokes.



I completely agree with your first statement, and disagree with the other. The new muscle cars are nothing like the originals, not only do they look different, they sound and feel different. I once owned a '65 Stang, and the roar and power was unbelievable. I've ridden in and driven modern ones hoping to experience the same, but they didn't even come close. Today's pussy-ass sounding Mustangs are just glorified soccermom cars. I drive a 1990 Chevy Silverado. Original engine and transmission, over 400,000 miles. Burns no oil and runs like a champ.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I drive a 1990 Chevy Silverado. Original engine and transmission, over 400,000 miles. Burns no oil and runs like a champ.

That's a truck, not a car. Also, an 18-year-old vehicle is not modern.

Buy U.S. or we shall die!
You wouldn't want that, would you?

"This statement is from a charitable and non profit organization and in no way reflects the views of this station."

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That's a truck, not a car. Also, an 18-year-old vehicle is not modern. I thought we were talking about vehicles in general. It amazes me that the thing still runs, and I thought that you, being a mechanic, would appreciate that fact.

I agree with you on the modern Mustangs, though. My stepsister bought one, and took me for a ride one day in it. I was like "is this it?"

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I thought we were talking about vehicles in general. It amazes me that the thing still runs, and I thought that you, being a mechanic, would appreciate that fact.

I was talking cars. It really doesn't amaze me because trucks are made to take a beating.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

I agree with you on the modern Mustangs, though. My stepsister bought one, and took me for a ride one day in it. I was like "is this it?"

Yep, that's it. Pretty sad, huh?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi


I agree with you on the modern Mustangs, though. My stepsister bought one, and took me for a ride one day in it. I was like "is this it?"


Are you sure that wasn't what she said?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I was talking cars. It really doesn't amaze me because trucks are made to take a beating.



Yep, that's it. Pretty sad, huh? It really is. A buddy used to have a GT Mustang (late 80's model I believe) and MAN that thing was mean.

Originally posted by Robtard
Are you sure that wasn't what she said? Is your mind always in the gutter?

To go from Roadsters, T-Birds and Mustangs to things like Escorts, Tauruses, and Focuses is pathetic. Ford sucks.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
To go from Roadsters, T-Birds and Mustangs to things like Escorts, Tauruses, and Focuses is pathetic. Ford sucks.
Fix
Or
Repair
Daily

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
To go from Roadsters, T-Birds and Mustangs to things like Escorts, Tauruses, and Focuses is pathetic. Ford sucks.

What I find to be the biggect kick in the nuts, they only sell their better cars overseas. Eg We get the Taurus, others gets the Falcon.

I have driven a Ford Focus before, and, to be honest, it was quite a nice ride.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I have driven a Ford Focus before, and, to be honest, it was quite a nice ride.

By nice, you mean quiet and smooth? Its supposed to be. Its a mom car.

Well, they're selling to what the majority want.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
By nice, you mean quiet and smooth? Its supposed to be. Its a mom car. That, and the way it handled. I would never buy one, because I gotta have some damn horsepower.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota

Hell no! It looks like cross between a Nissan Z and a Mazda RX-8. And that's exactly what I'm talking about, when I say American Muscle has become emasculated, and don't even look American anymore. I can totally burn that piece of crap on a quarter-mile in a '67 Stingray. No jokes.

Sorry but unless the stingray's heavily modified or if it has a ZL1 (which still probably wouldn't matter), it's not touching the ZR1. Not in the 1/4 and definitely not in the twisties.

Update: GM finally posted the video of the lap run.

2ikj90_Un0o

give it to the stig

Some say his left nipple is shaped like the nurburgring

I'll stick with Toyota. Tis' the only car I can think of that lasts over 300k miles. American cars are generally cheaper, as imported European and Asian cars are more expensive...but, you get what you pay for. Sputtin' round in a Ford and your engine will crap out in 2 or 3 years and youll be at the shop for every other stupid thing..a/c goes out, engine problems..w/e

so isn't it jut cheaper to spend a little more on an imported car that's made with advanced technology and superior quality than buying an in-expensive american car thats always crapping out?

meh......why bother caring? Just about every automobile off an assembly line comes with a standard 5 year warranty. What's the percentage of people who actually keep cars 5 years?

I average about 3 years per car. My last 3 cars were '01, '04 and last year I traded for '07. My truck on the other hand I do plan to keep just for hauling.....it's an '04 and I'll probably keep it until it dies.

Originally posted by Evil Dead

I average about 3 years per car.

Why don't you tinker with them to prolong their life? Buying one every 3 years is a lot of money.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
Sorry but unless the stingray's heavily modified or if it has a ZL1 (which still probably wouldn't matter), it's not touching the ZR1. Not in the 1/4 and definitely not in the twisties.

Not in turning, because classic muscle wasn't intended for circuit racing. But drags were their specialty. What were muscle cars 30 and 25 years ago, today are just tuners and mom cars.

http://www.mustangclassifieds.com/files/3072_3.jpg

I am hoping this is my next car.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota

Not in turning, because classic muscle wasn't intended for circuit racing. But drags were their specialty. What were muscle cars 30 and 25 years ago, today are just tuners and mom cars.

I don't recall the any of the muscle cars of yore being able to do an 11.3 1/4 mile run out of the factory. But then again, the corvette has really been more of a sports car anywho.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
I don't recall the any of the muscle cars of yore being able to do an 11.3 1/4 mile run out of the factory. But then again, the corvette has really been more of a sports car anywho.

It's true.



http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/general/musclecars-50fast.shtml


Edit-It looks like there is more than just muscle cars listed there. Interesting read.

Originally posted by dadudemon
It's true.



http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/general/musclecars-50fast.shtml


Edit-It looks like there is more than just muscle cars listed there. Interesting read.

That first car in the import section sounds familiar

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Why don't you tinker with them to prolong their life? Buying one every 3 years is a lot of money.



'cause I like driving new cars. I have a decent job........why purposely drive around in an out-of-date model if I don't have to.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
'cause I like driving new cars. I have a decent job........why purposely drive around in an out-of-date model if I don't have to.

It's part of what being American is, right?

Originally posted by Evil Dead
'cause I like driving new cars. I have a decent job........why purposely drive around in an out-of-date model if I don't have to.

As long as the new car's something cool, then I guess that logic makes sense sort of.

edit

seriously.......given the choice, I believe most if not all Americans would rather have a brand new car than an older car. If somebody was giving away free cars and asked you if you wanted an '09 or a '98 model of the very same car, I believe all would take the '09.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
seriously.......given the choice, I believe most if not all Americans would rather have a brand new car than an older car. If somebody was giving away free cars and asked you if you wanted an '09 or a '98 model of the very same car, I believe all would take the '09.

so you are saying that the only consideration in that scenario for you would be the age of the car?

Originally posted by Evil Dead
seriously.......given the choice, I believe most if not all Americans would rather have a brand new car than an older car. If somebody was giving away free cars and asked you if you wanted an '09 or a '98 model of the very same car, I believe all would take the '09.

Well, that depends on the car. I'd much rather have a nice vintage car.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Well, that depends on the car. I'd much rather have a nice vintage car.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Well, that depends on the car. I'd much rather have a nice vintage car.





I like some of the newer cars, though.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
I don't recall the any of the muscle cars of yore being able to do an 11.3 1/4 mile run out of the factory. But then again, the corvette has really been more of a sports car anywho.

The specs between sportscars and muscle cars aren't always well-defined. The one thing that they have in common is at least 8 bangers, and the engine is proportionately much more powerful than the vehicle's weight requires. "Muscle car" also refers to the style of an era of American cars; late 50's - mid 70's. Also, muscle cars usually carry the connotation of being affordable by the working man, where sportscars are driven by actors. Bottom line: the Stringray is closer to being a muscle car. It has a lot under the hood, but its not exactly a Murcielago.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The specs between sportscars and muscle cars aren't always well-defined. The one thing that they have in common is at least 8 bangers, and the engine is proportionately much more powerful than the vehicle's weight requires. "Muscle car" also refers to the style of an era of American cars; late 50's - mid 70's. Also, muscle cars usually carry the connotation of being affordable by the working man, where sportscars are driven by actors. Bottom line: the Stringray is closer to being a muscle car. It has a lot under the hood, but its not exactly a Murcielago.

Well it also depends on which model you chose. The ZL1 option for the Corvette back in 1969 would double the base model, coming out to about $9,400, which was pretty expensive back then, but definitely the best. Only the 427 S/C and C Cobras were faster stock.

The ZL1 doesn't resemble a true muscle car. Neither do today's Corvettes for that matter. They definately don't feel or sound like one.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The ZL1 doesn't resemble a true muscle car. Neither do today's Corvettes for that matter. They definately don't feel or sound like one.

An aluminum big block 427 rated at 430hp but actually producing 560hp sounds pretty muscly to me

Originally posted by AngryManatee
An aluminum big block 427 rated at 430hp but actually producing 560hp sounds pretty muscly to me


I've never heard it in person. I wouldn't know.

But pretty much at any time, Quiero is gonna be right when it comes to cars. He's got a massive amount of knowledge about them.

There are many factors that have to be taken into consideration, often a mechanic will be rather biased on these. For instance, the cost of repairs - say I own a Ford Focus and it breaks down, it's going to cost a lot less to repair than an old school muscle car. Then there's fuel economy, power would really mean f*ck all to me if I was paying through the roof for it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I've never heard it in person. I wouldn't know.

But pretty much at any time, Quiero is gonna be right when it comes to cars. He's got a massive amount of knowledge about them.

As do I. The ZL1 was pretty much a beefier aluminum version of the L88 427. Pretty much a can-am engine put in a roadcar. It's still the most powerful naturally aspirated factory engine ever put in a corvette.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
As do I. The ZL1 was pretty much a beefier aluminum version of the L88 427. Pretty much a can-am engine put in a roadcar. It's still the most powerful naturally aspirated factory engine ever put in a corvette.

Corvettes from the factory don't have that "muscle car" sound, though. I think that's what Quiero was getting at.




No doubt that is packing a major load. ( )

Where I work, there's just about every version of Corvette from the last ten years, parked on the lots. (There's a lot of bloated salaries, where I work...bunch of 50 somethings.)

I haven't heard or seen the ZL1 in the parking lots, but I'm sure someone will try to buy one.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Corvettes from the factory don't have that "muscle car" sound, though. I think that's what Quiero was getting at.




No doubt that is packing a major load. ( )

Where I work, there's just about every version of Corvette from the last ten years, parked on the lots. (There's a lot of bloated salaries, where I work...bunch of 50 somethings.)

I haven't heard or seen the ZL1 in the parking lots, but I'm sure someone will try to buy one.

Highly doubt that, only two were ever made even though it was an option offered at all the dealers. Most usually went with the much cheaper L88 option.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
An aluminum big block 427 rated at 430hp but actually producing 560hp sounds pretty muscly to me

Today's Vettes sound a lot ballsier than many of their contemporaries. But when I say "muscle sound" I'm referring to the distinctive roar of cars from the early 70's, who's hoods had to have a hole cut out in the center to accommodate the valves of the carburetor. Nothing today sounds even remotely close to the way those did.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Today's Vettes sound a lot ballsier than many of their contemporaries. But when I say "muscle sound" I'm referring to the distinctive roar of cars from the early 70's, who's hoods had to have a hole cut out in the center to accommodate the valves of the carburetor. Nothing today sounds even remotely close to the way those did.

You mean like this sound?

kukI2LnxrqY

Originally posted by AngryManatee
Highly doubt that, only two were ever made even though it was an option offered at all the dealers. Most usually went with the much cheaper L88 option.


I thought 2000 were being made?


*googles*


Yup.

"GM likely will build fewer than 2000 of these devils, so if you want one, make nice with your dealer now and renegotiate your mortgage. We expect the price tag for the 2009 ZR-1 to be in the $100,000 range."

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/corvette_camaro_corner/2009_chevrolet_corvette_zr_1_or_zl_1_spied

Originally posted by AngryManatee
You mean like this sound?

kukI2LnxrqY droolio

Originally posted by AngryManatee
You mean like this sound?

kukI2LnxrqY



Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
droolio

I drove a brand new Dodge charger the other night, and it just didnt do anything for me. I couldnt feel the power, not like I could with an older car like the one in the vid.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I drove a brand new Dodge charger the other night, and it just didnt do anything for me. I couldnt feel the power, not like I could with an older car like the one in the vid.

Is it yours? If not, how did you find the opportunity to drive it?

I once owned a black '69 Charger, but I totaled it 12 years ago.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I thought 2000 were being made?


*googles*


Yup.

"GM likely will build fewer than 2000 of these devils, so if you want one, make nice with your dealer now and renegotiate your mortgage. We expect the price tag for the 2009 ZR-1 to be in the $100,000 range."

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/corvette_camaro_corner/2009_chevrolet_corvette_zr_1_or_zl_1_spied

Yeah but I'm talking about the Corvette ZL-1 option, which was available back in the late 60's, not the new ZR1. Only two of those were made. Aluminum alloy 427 block that put out 560 hp in street trim, 800+ when used on the can-am cars!

You should take pics if someone does get a ZR1 in your area though

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Is it yours? If not, how did you find the opportunity to drive it?

I once owned a black '69 Charger, but I totaled it 12 years ago. Friend of mine came by to show it off. He is a trust fund child.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
Yeah but I'm talking about the Corvette ZL-1 option, which was available back in the late 60's, not the new ZR1. Only two of those were made. Aluminum alloy 427 block that put out 560 hp in street trim, 800+ when used on the can-am cars!

DAMNIT!

My bad...

You'd think that your mentioning "L88" and "427" would have given away what you were talking about, right? In my defense, there's a shit load of acronyms floating around in my head right now (taking an IT cert test on Monday) and distinguishing Z06, Z07(sting ray...SS...whatever), ZR-1, and ZL-1 in my head is a task.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
You should take pics if someone does get a ZR1 in your area though


I'll try, just for you. flirt It's like a Corvette and Bimmer lot on the front row outside of each building, where I work. I saw an H2 parked outside the day before yesterday. I lol'd at the monstrosity at this gas priced age...but they can probably afford the gas

See, as a non-enthusiast it just sounds to me like there's something wrong with the car. I don't understand the need for a car to sound like that. In Tarrytown New York my father is spinning in his grave. He was a greaser, drag racer that would have understood. I, on the other hand, don't see the appeal. To me it sounds like something is loose and it's burning way more gas than is neccessary to get from point A to point B.

Originally posted by Devil King
See, as a non-enthusiast it just sounds to me like there's something wrong with the car. I don't understand the need for a car to sound like that. In up-state New York my father is spinning in his grave. He was a greaser, drag racer that would have understood. I, on the other hand, don't see the appeal. To me it sounds like something is loose and it's burning way more gas than is neccessary to get from point A to point B.

Exactly the way I feel about it.

I honestly think the high gas prices everywhere will be the only thing that'll convince southerners to dump their Ford pick-ups for hybrids. The soaring prices will make them so appealing.

I hate to say it, but no one is dumping their cars in favor of hybrids. Hybrid, "more efficient" cars are practically the thing of scince-fiction. The only people that drive hybrids are people who can afford to drop a couple of hundred thousand dollars on impressing other people. Which, strangly, is the same mind set of people who buy, restore and maintain classic cars that go Vroooom! Ecological technology is a luxury only the rich can afford. Perhaps with all the press it's getting these days (every other commercial and now it's own TV channel) the price will come down, slightly. But I personally think that's about as likely as the price of a gallon of milk dropping below three bucks. Environmental disaster aside, there's money to be made. And that will always come first. Otherwise we'd have a fuctional public transportation infrastructure in this country. At least one that wasn't tanked and undermined by the oil industry (Which poises itself to become the "energy"industry more and more every day. Exxon and Shell are so concerned with the environment that they're still selling 5 dollar gasoline while dumping millions into research for alternative research, which they'll own and market in exactly the same way they do now with their sludge.)

We can't assume that a disaster for the environment should transcend the appeal of making a buck. Not in this country or any other; any more than we should assume the disaster isn't on some level a manufactured marketing ploy.

Originally posted by Devil King
See, as a non-enthusiast it just sounds to me like there's something wrong with the car. I don't understand the need for a car to sound like that. In Tarrytown New York my father is spinning in his grave. He was a greaser, drag racer that would have understood. I, on the other hand, don't see the appeal. To me it sounds like something is loose and it's burning way more gas than is neccessary to get from point A to point B.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the growling that beautiful Vette. Since your dad was a greaser, I know the healthy roar of that V-8 would give him a hard-on. If you can't appreciate it, you likely never will and are beyond any hope.

Originally posted by Devil King
Which, strangly, is the same mind set of people who buy, restore and maintain classic cars that go Vroooom!

And I'd still rather keep and maintain my Impala, than trade it in for a hybrid.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Japanese cars all the way.

I concur.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
There's absolutely nothing wrong with the growling that beautiful Vette. Since your dad was a greaser, I know the healthy roar of that V-8 would give him a hard-on. If you can't appreciate it, you likely never will and are beyond any hope.

I am absolutely beyond the hope of understanding the appeal of that gas-guzzling sound. There's no arguing that. However, my father was almost 20 years older than my mother and the logistics of that vroom was a bit beyond his generation. No, I doubt I'll ever understand the appeal of having a car that makes more noise than an orgasmic korean chick. I grew up listening to the sounds of reving engines and flaming carborators. I even have pictures of myself in the drivers seat with a helmet on. But I still don't buy into the need for an automotive substitution for my cock. So, like I said: I'll never get it. My brother picked up on it, but apparently I missed out. He's still buying cars and motorcycles from that era. Personally, I'd rather wait 20 minutes for the bus.



Originally posted by Quiero Mota
And I'd still rather keep and maintain my Impala, than trade it in for a hybrid.

Well, then we both look forward to the day when there's a 16 cylinder, 200 mpr alternative to the 1954 vet that still meets all it's man-charging positives.

Hybrids are crap anywho. Pretty much converting air pollution into ground pollution. Buy a BMW diesel if you want performance and economy. 260 hp and 486 lb-ft of torque, all while still getting 40 mpg hwy.

An even more interesting concept is the Mercedes Benz Diesotto engine. Has the advantages of both a gas and diesel engine without the minuses, and cleaner emissions than both. High revs and spark ignition when you hit the gas, but reverts to compression ignition when cruising or only using moderate amounts of throttle. 238hp and 295 lb-ft from a 1.8L turbo engine and returning 39 mpg hwy in a Mercedes S-class which is a 4,000+ lb car.

Not to mention, rumor has it the next generation of corvette, the C7, will be weighing in at under 3,000 lbs and using the new form of variable valve timing for pushrod engines, meaning it's expected to achieve 30+ mpg hwy, in a corvette, while still putting out 400+ hp

Originally posted by Devil King
No, I doubt I'll ever understand the appeal of having a car that makes more noise than an orgasmic korean chick.

You know what that sounds like??

Originally posted by Devil King
My brother picked up on it, but apparently I missed out. He's still buying cars and motorcycles from that era.

What does he own?

Originally posted by Devil King

Well, then we both look forward to the day when there's a 16 cylinder, 200 mpr alternative to the 1954 vet that still meets all it's man-charging positives.

Count me out. Nothing today or in the future will ever replace the '54 Vette Roadster. Or any other street beast from the era, for that matter.

Incidentally: 1954 was the first year of the Corvette. Good job, Dave.

My dad has a Mercedes Benz Diesel, it is really economical, but it's loud in a horrible way - it sort of sounds like a semi broken down tractor.

GOD I hate those diesel pickup trucks. Guys who are like real ranchers, who haul shit alot, need them, but I laugh when someone who doesn't need one buys one.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
GOD I hate those diesel pickup trucks. Guys who are like real ranchers, who haul shit alot, need them, but I laugh when someone who doesn't need one buys one.

I laugh when they put a performance chip in them and try to race me God Bless Texas lol

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
You know what that sounds like??

Hey, I didn't go to a private catholic school for nothing. I would say that at least 60 percent of my fellow students were foreign nationals. At that I would say that less than half were actually catholic.



Originally posted by Quiero Mota
What does he own?

He owns three motocycles. What they are, I have no idea. He likes to start them when I'm home and display them in his driveway. One of them is green: that's all I can tell you about them. He buys and sells his "collection" (which was all minature until his contractor buisness with friends of the Carolina Panthers took off) But he owns a 57 Ford something and two other cars. He talks about them like they're his children. (which I also tune out) At least, I assume, until he comes across a better deal.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Count me out. Nothing today or in the future will ever replace the '54 Vette Roadster. Or any other street beast from the era, for that matter.

I counted you out long before I posted word 1 in this thread.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Incidentally: 1954 was the first year of the Corvette. Good job, Dave.

I didn't realize that. But it's hard not to pick up on some measure of all this shit when your brother used to come home from a night out with an auto trader magazine, a bag of ruffled potato chips and a tub of dime store ranch dipping sauce and then pass out. Actually, it was the best time to play tricks on him. He never figured out why the dog shit all over his clothes. Especially since he never picked them up off the floor. (by the way: it as me putting the dog shit on his clothes. And then he joined the army.)

Originally posted by AngryManatee

Not to mention, rumor has it the next generation of corvette, the C7, will be weighing in at under 3,000 lbs and using the new form of variable valve timing for pushrod engines, meaning it's expected to achieve 30+ mpg hwy, in a corvette, while still putting out 400+ hp

A Corvette with over 30mpg and it pushes over 400hp's? Damn!

Originally posted by AngryManatee
I laugh when they put a performance chip in them and try to race me God Bless Texas lol

Are you ****ing serious?

Originally posted by Devil King
Hey, I didn't go to a private catholic school for nothing. I would say that at least 60 percent of my fellow students were foreign nationals. At that I would say that less than half were actually catholic.


So you schtupped a hot Korean exchange student?

Originally posted by Devil King

But he owns a 57 Ford something and two other cars.

T-bird, I'm assuming.

Originally posted by Devil King
He talks about them like they're his children.

Of course. So do I.

Originally posted by Devil King

I counted you out long before I posted word 1 in this thread.


Why? I don't like modern American cars.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
So you schtupped a hot Korean exchange student?

No, not personally. But I have heard non-descript Asian chicks scream. Even I have an affinity for the ones who have half a **** buldging out of their swimsuit. It's just too much to not notice.



Originally posted by Quiero Mota
T-bird, I'm assuming.

I leave your guess up to you. I certainly don't assume to know better. He might not even have 3 motorcycles anymore. His wife and mother did not approve. He changes cars about as often as I change underware. God forbid tthere not be a reason to verbally masturbate his latest acquisition when I go home. He loves that he was the one that was given up to parody and I was always treated like the salvation. But he has done remarkably well; hence the reason for his ability to buy old cars. And I'm very happy for him. No one deserves it more than he does. I'm still waiting to show him up. He's almost 40 and I'm 28. A large gap, but only if we measure in terms of years. The time will come though, where his success is no longer measured in terms of his offspring and his ability to earn money off 2nd rate celebrities.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Why? I don't like modern American cars.

That sentiment works out well for those who give a shit. I simply see them as a reason to listen to others babble. I do so out of obligation.

Originally posted by Devil King
No, not personally.



The added "not personally" made me laugh for about 5 straight minutes; as if it would be anything but personally. Other than "no", what more do really need to say?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota


The added "not personally" made me laugh for about 5 straight minutes; as if it would be anything but personally. Other than "no", what more do really need to say?

What more needs to be said? I have slept with Asian chicks, just not written down their exact ethnicity nor their importance to fututure conversations.

Surely you've met guys who have no compunction in sharing their personal exploits.

If I was going to buy an expensive car, I'd probably get a Nissan GTR. I doubt very much that I'll ever buy another car, though, or have the money to buy one like that for quite some time.

Update: The Dodge Viper ACR is now the current 'Ring King!

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Originally posted by AngryManatee
Update: The Dodge Viper ACR is now the current 'Ring King!

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I like it. One thing I've always loved about Vipers, is that unlike other muscle cars like Corvettes and Mustangs, Vipers have always kept the same basic look.

Vipers look mean as hell too, and also i drove one there not for people who cant drive seemed liked everytime i pushed the gas i lit up the tires

To the thread title, I just love my little American Prism, it's the coolest little Japanese Corolla that I've ever had.

I think it's kinda funny how little the engine note changes between shifts. It hardly changes tone but accelerates like mad, lol.