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hmmm . . . for me? sometimes.

the overanalysis that takes place on the kmc sometimes DOES take the pure fun out of reading a book. often kmc "finds" problems that might otherwise have gone overlooked, robbing the enjoyment out of particular scenes or stories. people become so concerned with the canonicity of a story, whether continuity is carefully maintained, whether a character is depicted perfectly . . .

sometimes -- not always -- the kmc can steal the fun out of reading a comic, imo. a quick example i raised in another thread was superman v the source-empowered infinityman. that was a GREAT showing for superman, and i very much enjoyed the battle, but i've heard people screaming it was PIS. maybe it was, but i still enjoyed the battle, but having people cry about it and pick it apart lessens it somewhat.

anyone else ever run across a similar problem?

If I thought KMC ruined my enjoyment of comics, I wouldn't post on KMC

I never let it ruin my enjoyment of a comic....but i understand where you are coming from, to me there is no room for the forums when i read a comic,its funny as me and my friend talk about versus matches we say things like.."so and so would win.....but not on KMC" i am a big fan of the roleplaying systems and i have been playing these characters with friends and such for a long time, it just does not factor in....when i am reading a comic

Originally posted by Endless Mike
If I thought KMC ruined my enjoyment of comics, I wouldn't post on KMC

If anything, it has increased my enjoyment of comics.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
If I thought KMC ruined my enjoyment of comics, I wouldn't post on KMC

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Most of the things people talk about on here are about comics i don't really read so...

Originally posted by llagrok
If anything, it has increased my enjoyment of comics.

Originally posted by starlock
I never let it ruin my enjoyment of a comic....but i understand where you are coming from, to me there is no room for the forums when i read a comic,its funny as me and my friend talk about versus matches we say things like.."so and so would win.....but not on KMC" i am a big fan of the roleplaying systems and i have been playing these characters with friends and such for a long time, it just does not factor in....when i am reading a comic

I agree with all of this, really.

Everyone here should be able to see where Leonidas is coming from. A lot of people, including myself, can come down like a ton of bricks when our favourite characters are being written to anything less than what we normally expect.

But what people say on KMC doesn't really affect me to the degree that it would ruin a comic for me. It's actually quite nice to find people who agree with you on certain things.

Originally posted by llagrok
I agree with all of this, really.

Everyone here should be able to see where Leonidas is coming from. A lot of people, including myself, can come down like a ton of bricks when our favourite characters are being written to anything less than what we normally expect.

But what people say on KMC doesn't really affect me to the degree that it would ruin a comic for me. It's actually quite nice to find people who agree with you on certain things.

QFT

Originally posted by starlock
I never let it ruin my enjoyment of a comic....

Same here. If I were to be influenced by KMC I probably wouldve stopped reading Wolverine comics a long time ago. I enjoyed the Onslaught saga a lot and its one of my favorite storyline ever but by KMC standards is crap. As long as u enjoy a particular comic/character/event/feat f**k what everyone thinks.

As others have said, if KMC even slightly decreased my enjoyment of comic books, I would cease posting immediately.

KMC is what got me back into comics.

Originally posted by Rorschach
KMC is what got me back into comics.

me too.

and grok and starlock summed things up perfectly, i think.

and geez . . . i said SOMETIMES . . .






























in general, yes, you are all correct -- kmc usually EHANCES the experience. but there are times i find things that bug me that i would have previously ignored. long ago i started a thread about how kmc enhanced reading comics (can't recall the title or find the link though -- it was when i first became a member). so i thought i would balance things out.

some good thoughts though, and sort of cool to see people rally to kmc's defense.

Meh. I can see both sides.

Take Civil War for example. I think it's a great comic with decent art and not a bad read.

Then on KMC you have posters threatening to drop Marvel because of it.

Yeesh.

Same with the vs. forum... after I see people list character A for speedblitzing their match 10/10 times, now and then you wonder when actually reading their comics "Where's the speedblitz?".

At the same time though, it's not going to ruin comics for me. Far from. KMC often directs me towards what the best comics are, and helps me avoid stuff that I don't really want to read.

But, I feel the tinge of "ugh" at some of the comic related e-drama that occasionally can affect reading the comic in question.

srug

KMC for me is a neutral zone for comic book fans.

If you go to DC message boards there is ton of bias. Same when you got to the Marvel Message boards...tons of Hulk and Wolverine fanboys. CBR still decent...Superherochat...waste of time.

This site ruining my enjoyment of comics ? Not even close. Quite the opposite.

at the risk of sounding a little grandiose and melo dramatic theres maybe like a small handful of ppl on this board who i actually take seriously anyway....so it doesnt matter, i too would have stopped reading wolverine, or developed a hatred for superman, or give Doom more respect than he deserves if anyone's critque and over analysis got to me

Originally posted by leonidas
hmmm . . . for me? sometimes.

the overanalysis that takes place on the kmc sometimes DOES take the pure fun out of reading a book. often kmc "finds" problems that might otherwise have gone overlooked, robbing the enjoyment out of particular scenes or stories. people become so concerned with the canonicity of a story, whether continuity is carefully maintained, whether a character is depicted perfectly . . .

sometimes -- not always -- the kmc can steal the fun out of reading a comic, imo. a quick example i raised in another thread was superman v the source-empowered infinityman. that was a GREAT showing for superman, and i very much enjoyed the battle, but i've heard people screaming it was PIS. maybe it was, but i still enjoyed the battle, but having people cry about it and pick it apart lessens it somewhat.

anyone else ever run across a similar problem?

i'd have to care what other people think to have my enjoyment ruined, right?

nah, i read comics regardless...

KMC got me back into comics as well...I find, generally speaking, that these forums enhance my reading experience and knowledge of characters and their feats.

That being said, there exists a small percentage of members (I'm looking at you, zealously irrational Hulk, Juggernaut, and Wolverine fanboys) whose posts do annoy me...but I generally just try to ignore them...in fact, I often find them amusing, if nothing else.

I love this site. I've gained new insight into many characters and I love MOST of the debates that go on here.

I considered debating comics and reading them to be completely different. Disenchantment with debating hasn't affected my enjoyment of reading comics at all.

Originally posted by Raoul
i'd have to care what other people think to have my enjoyment ruined, right?

nah, i read comics regardless...

My sentiments exactly.

A big issue among certain sects of KMC is that posters refuse to accept the fact that these characters aren't static. Everything in a comic, high end feats to "jobbing", is plot driven and fluid. Everything in a comic is "PIS". It's the entire premise of the genre. The line between being a fan and zealotry gets crossed too often. Some people treat these stories as gospel and defend their favorite character's standing like it were some divine purpose, and their detractors do the same with in some cases genuine disdain and hatred, all the while losing sight of the fact that in the end, it's just some story some guy made up and scribbled on a piece of paper. It's good to just take a step back and enjoy comics for what they are without dissecting the narrative down to it's base in the futile act of proving the superiority or inferiority of your favorite fairy tale character.

If I admit that it has ruined comics or characters for me (it has) I can't only dwell on the negative and have to mention the far more numerous times when KMC has enhanced my comic reading experience, either by providing insightful discussion on a topic or by making me aware of a comic that I eventually enjoyed.

The good outweighs the bad. But yeah, it happens both ways.

It also helps to avoid teh vs. forum. Place generally drains my soul...not for comics, just in general...and I much prefer this forum and the respect forum.