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Does the Commie Superman from Earth-30 surpass the main universe Superman?

No. Mainstream Superman has feats far greater than Red Son.

I dunno. When has main universe Supes raced to the edge of the solar system in under a minute and survived something far larger than a planet buster? The Sun Eater thing is debatable. Some interpret it as ihe was hit by the bomb and not the actual energy of the SE. That's also not exactly a standard showing for Clark. More akin to Spiderman beating Firelord.

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Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Does the Commie Superman from Earth-30 surpass the main universe Superman?

No, he doesn't, and clark's feats do put him > red son...

clark has flown FTL on regular occasions, so the solar system thing wouldnt be a big deal to him...

Um, yes it would. Superman in Red Son can go FTL just to relax himself:
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Also, I'm no good at science but I'd guess there's a large difference between simply being FTL and being FTL enough to reach the edge of our solar system in under a minute.
Any FTL feats for normal Supes suggesting he's that fast?

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Um, yes it would. Superman in Red Son can go FTL just to relax himself:
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that doesn't compare to the numerous FTL instances NE superman has shown...



he's flown to the sun in seconds, he's flown to saturn in, i think it was 4 minutes, and he has plenty of other FTL showings too...

and there's also the fact that red son is pretty much based on clark, the only difference is his upbringing, his powers are generally the same...

A. Flying to Saturn in 4 minutes alone shows NE Clark is slower than his RS self.
B. Of course he has the same powers...he's Superman, whatever the universe. Most versions of Supes have pretty identical powersets.

He flew 25 lightyears in minutes in countdown. He flew thousands of light years in Infinote crisis.

New Earth Supermans blows have been decribed as planet busting while he was holding his full strength back.

Maybe they'll fight in Superman beyond and we can settle this once and for all

What is Superman Beyond?

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
A. Flying to Saturn in 4 minutes alone shows NE Clark is slower than his RS self.
B. Of course he has the same powers...he's Superman, whatever the universe. Most versions of Supes have pretty identical powersets.

a. its one example, and in no way an indication of his top speed. it was also a while ago, before his more recent upgrades.
b. wasnt the point i was making.

Well people were saying he is more powerful than SBP...Though I doubt that.

Originally posted by Raoul
a. its one example, and in no way an indication of his top speed. it was also a while ago, before his more recent upgrades.
b. wasnt the point i was making.

What upgrades?
When was it said he got stronger?

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
What is Superman Beyond?

Its a 2 part final crisis tie in. Superman has to go a quest across the multiverse with a load of alternate superman to save lois lane.

Morrison has described it as the best superman story he's ever written.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
What upgrades?
When was it said he got stronger?

all of his powers were amplified after the last crisis...

NE Superman flew to the Source wall in seconds from our Solar System. That's the very edge of the universe in a different dimension.

Which comic was that? And does it say seconds on the panel?

no, commie superman was just a what if

The way I looked at Red Son was that he was basically what normal Superman would be if he was born in a communist regime, and if he was quite older (and had thus absorbed more solar energy).

comparing feat to feat will have 'normal' Superman winning, because Red Son only had Red Son graphic novel arc (plus one or two other appearances ...e.g Arena), while 'normal' Superman has decades of feats to pull from.

However, my belief (personal, of course ....meaning it may very well NOT be the case) is that Red Son is just a what-if version of 'normal' Superman, but instead of crashing in Kansas he crashed in the USSR. Also he has had more time to absorb solar radiation (he is older than 'normal' Superman), and thus would be stronger.

Feat vs feat, though, 'normal' Kal wins ....but that may be primarily due to decades of feats to pull from vs one graphic novel and an additional appearance here and there.

Just my thoughts.

ne superman has too many insane feats to mention its just odd.