Neo Vs. Milleniumon

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Pyron_Express
Im trying to figure where to rank Neo's power in the digiverse.

Neo from Digimon Next
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/neo008.jpg

Vs.

Milleniummon
http://cf.geocities.com/digi_josief/CoolPics/Milleniumon.jpg

*Fight takes in the digiverse
*Xeed is not allowed(obviously)

Now who is offically stronger?

psycho gundam
any info on these guys? or a game to go by?

Pyron_Express
Neo and Milleniumon are to overpowered characters from the digimon series.

Neo was able to collaspe both the digital and real world's and created his "own" world. He was able to warp his world and became the universe "itself".

Neo constructing his own universe.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/9287/011qb4.th.jpg

Neo warping his universe.
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7020/017fc5.th.jpg


Millenniumon is from the Digimon Wonderswan games(he also made a cameo apperance in the anime)

Anyways, Millenniumon warped the very essence of time. And created his "own" world as well. He can manipulate dimensions at will, he can freely cross through any dimension at will. He can create separate pockets in space-time and he can trap his oppotents inside them, we're he destroys those pocket of space-time with his Dimension destroyer attack. He went back in time i believe and revived all the previous bad guys in Digimon Adventure(devimon, myotismon, Piemon, Apocalymon)

He has a very broken attack called "Time Warp" which allows him to send his enemies into a parallel dimension slowing him/her down and restarting everything or he can send them to the past, present and future.

King Kandy
See the problem here is that killing Milleniumon won't solve anything since he can just revive himself as Moon=Milleniumon and will eventually become Zeed who can easily win this.

Pyron_Express
That's why i restricted his Zeed/Xeed form.

If even Mille is too much for Neo, then who would be a good match for Neo? Lucemon SM? Super Ulitmates?

King Kandy
He is probably just under milleniumon's base form since they can both destroy and create universes. He won't beat Moon=Milleniumon since he can't be harmed by physical attacks.

Wait a second... Neo got beat by VictoryGreymon and Z'dGarurumon right? They are only slightly stronger then the familiar WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon. This could put him on... Apocalymon level maybe?

Pyron_Express
I agree that he cant beat Xeed and even Moon, but we're talking about a universal reality warper, someone who can become the universe itself, like Eternity. Would Moon be harmed by that kind of power?

He was defeated by VictoryGreymon with the "Power of Bonds"; Fighting, Healing, Anger, Encouragement, Forgiveness, Trust, and Strength.(<--Lame) VictoryGreymon also was able to live 'outside space-time' since Neo was the universe and VictoryGreymon was outside it. Neo wasnt even killed he just "realize" that what's he's doing is wrong(or something like that)

It was kinda a plot-defeat, theirs noway a wargreymon-level digimon defeating a casual unverse buster/creator.

VictoryGreymon even defeated Barbamon in a single shot. Barbamon should be around the level of Lucemon(rookie).

King Kandy
I'm going with him being Apocalymon level since he could destroy two universes. Maybe Neo is a bit higher but probably not substantially. Maybe he is on the D-Reaper's level (that is, the sum total of the D-Reaper and not any specific manifestation.)

Pyron_Express
Apocalymon can collaspe two dimensions with the cost of his life. Neo can causally destroy and create universes without killing himself in the process. Neo's power surpasses even Yggdrasil's.

I believe Eniac and ABC were able to slow down Moon=milleniumon. And i believe Yggdrasil is a supposed upgraded version of them two. So if Neo is more powerful then Yggdrasil, while Yggdrasil is more powerful then Eniac and ABC, then im sure Neo is around Mille's level.(not Zeed's obviously)

D-Reaper, really? was it that strong? i remember it easily beating mega-level digimon. But can it survive the destruction of the universe and being wapred?

King Kandy
No way is Yggdrasil above ENIAC and ABC. They created every digital world in the multiverse, Yggdrasil is only one universe. ENIAC and ABC are pretty much omnipotent next to anything but ZeedMilleniumon. D-Reaper was defeating all the digital world's armies and would have devoured two universes if left unchecked. It beats megas who are far beyond VictoryGreymon who defeated Neo.

Pyron_Express
Originally posted by King Kandy
No way is Yggdrasil above ENIAC and ABC. They created every digital world in the multiverse, Yggdrasil is only one universe. ENIAC and ABC are pretty much omnipotent next to anything but ZeedMilleniumon. D-Reaper was defeating all the digital world's armies and would have devoured two universes if left unchecked. It beats megas who are far beyond VictoryGreymon who defeated Neo. Well, i know feat-wise you may think that, but i believe Yggdrasil was suppose to be the orginal program or something liek that.
Also this user says Yggdrasil is upgraded version of ENIAC or ABC:
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=5999061&postcount=20

I wasnt aware that the D-Reaper was threatening both universes.

I really hate using that logic. I mean Goku would beat VictoryGreymon, but Neo would solo the dbzverse quite easily..

BradBalboa
does milleniumon beat Ominimon ?? i think i saw that on youtube

i wud hav expected omnimon to be the most powerful digmon ever, thne i saw magnamon do wot omnimon did in the digimon movie, wen he took the power of kids love or sum shit

King Kandy
Originally posted by Pyron_Express
Well, i know feat-wise you may think that, but i believe Yggdrasil was suppose to be the orginal program or something liek that.
Also this user says Yggdrasil is upgraded version of ENIAC or ABC:
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=5999061&postcount=20

I wasnt aware that the D-Reaper was threatening both universes.

I really hate using that logic. I mean Goku would beat VictoryGreymon, but Neo would solo the dbzverse quite easily..
I don't care what that user says, he's wrong. Yggdrasil is the program in charge of the "Next" universe, and that universe alone. Alternate Yggdrasils governed the X and Savers universes. Clearly they are not the same when they behave differently, have different capabilities, and different appearances. ENIAC behind the scenes governs all universes.

Yeah it had spread to both universes and was fighting the sovereigns in the digital world.

Actually i'd say that losing to VictoryGreymon is pretty substantial evidence that he WOULDN'T solo the DBZverse quite easily.

Pyron_Express
Mille or one of his other evolutions already defeated Omegamon, Imperialdramon PM and Dukemon Crimson Mode. And many other Digimon.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I don't care what that user says, he's wrong. Yggdrasil is the program in charge of the "Next" universe, and that universe alone. Alternate Yggdrasils governed the X and Savers universes. Clearly they are not the same when they behave differently, have different capabilities, and different appearances. ENIAC behind the scenes governs all universes.

Yeah it had spread to both universes and was fighting the sovereigns in the digital world.

Well, that user knows alot about digimon, probably more then you and me.

Uuh the fact that he defeated someone who exceeds space-time and is a causal universe destroyer/creator puts him above dbz.

You dont seem to understand that in Digimon their's alot of inconsistency.

EX.
Let's say Agumon somehow defeated Mille, despite the fact that Mille can warp and destroy universes. I guess that means he'll still lose to naruto characters because Agumon is around naruto-level?

Arkadimon SU best feat is making a large creator, i guess that means he'll lose to Ebemon who can INSTANTLY destroy planets. And he evolves from a weakling like Vadermon, who was defeated by Megakubererimon(sp).

What im tryin to say is you cant use that fact he was defeated by VictoryGreymon. Your saying Neo cant beat DBZ because Victorgreymon cant. But your not lookinng at the inconsistency of VictoryGreymon beating NEO. Neo could destroy the universe and create a universe to replace, then become the universe and everyone will be under his will since he is the universe and controls it. Dbz characters cant hang with that, but your saying he cant win against dbz just because he was defeated by Victorygreymon, which is very stupid.

And if you wanna play that way, then evidence makes Victorygreymon above dbz since he defeated someone who can warp universes, destroy them, and create them. But im obviously not saying Victorygreymon can beat dbz, but neo can because he was obviously defeated by plot.

BradBalboa
Neo can warp univreses in HIS universe and create them. He coudlt just destroy the DBZveres, Digimon vs DBZ is stupid, Digimon is a kids anime, DBZ is Teen anime !! DBZ is more powerful, just digimon can do things like warp time and space. but they cudnt do tht in DBZverse !! Majin buu wud solo Digiworld !!

King Kandy
Originally posted by Pyron_Express
Mille or one of his other evolutions already defeated Omegamon, Imperialdramon PM and Dukemon Crimson Mode. And many other Digimon.

Well, that user knows alot about digimon, probably more then you and me.

Uuh the fact that he defeated someone who exceeds space-time and is a causal universe destroyer/creator puts him above dbz.

You dont seem to understand that in Digimon their's alot of inconsistency.

EX.
Let's say Agumon somehow defeated Mille, despite the fact that Mille can warp and destroy universes. I guess that means he'll still lose to naruto characters because Agumon is around naruto-level?

Arkadimon SU best feat is making a large creator, i guess that means he'll lose to Ebemon who can INSTANTLY destroy planets. And he evolves from a weakling like Vadermon, who was defeated by Megakubererimon(sp).

What im tryin to say is you cant use that fact he was defeated by VictoryGreymon. Your saying Neo cant beat DBZ because Victorgreymon cant. But your not lookinng at the inconsistency of VictoryGreymon beating NEO. Neo could destroy the universe and create a universe to replace, then become the universe and everyone will be under his will since he is the universe and controls it. Dbz characters cant hang with that, but your saying he cant win against dbz just because he was defeated by Victorygreymon, which is very stupid.

And if you wanna play that way, then evidence makes Victorygreymon above dbz since he defeated someone who can warp universes, destroy them, and create them. But im obviously not saying Victorygreymon can beat dbz, but neo can because he was obviously defeated by plot.

I don't care how knowledgeable that member is, I have provided evidence to support my case but he has provided none.

So far, I have only heard two things about Neo: He created a universe, and he lost to VictoryGreymon. There is no way for me to know which feat is more reliable. Post some more feats.

Pyron_Express
Originally posted by BradBalboa
Neo can warp univreses in HIS universe and create them. He coudlt just destroy the DBZveres, Digimon vs DBZ is stupid, Digimon is a kids anime, DBZ is Teen anime !! DBZ is more powerful, just digimon can do things like warp time and space. but they cudnt do tht in DBZverse !! Majin buu wud solo Digiworld !! LOL no. Dbz characters are planet busters, theirs digimon who can causlly destroy universes and timelines at whim *cough Zeed&Moon*

The dub version portrayed Digimon as a kiddie show, even though theirs some explicit content like the Spirit scubamon tryin to get kari pregant in Digimon Adventure 02. And Apocalymon scratching himself till he bled all over his arm. Which all was cut off in the dub version.

@King, give me couple mins to upload some more feats

Pyron_Express
Ok, double post, but whatever.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/001-1.jpg The Universe is destroyed.


Neo creating his universe, and then senses someone traveling through space-time and connecting with the future
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/011-1.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/25-12-1.png

Neo warping his universe. And then becomes bigger the galaxies and even becomes the universe itself.
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/015-1.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/25-16-17.png

Neo is the universe, everything exist inside Neo at this momnet, So Victorygreymon is outside the universe fighting a being who is the universe.
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/25-21.png

After Neo's defeat everything seems to turn white. Neo realizes that what he did is wrong so he turns everything back to how it was and returns back into the Digimemories(which has the power to re-create the entire world in the image of the beholder)
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/25-22.png
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/25-24.png
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/25-25.png<--dont mess with the power of bonds lol
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/25-26.png
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/25-27.png
So Neo wasnt killed by Victorygreymon. It's kinda like how Naruto makes bad guys turn good, like Gaara.

King Kandy
He wasn't killed by VictoryGreymon but he was defeated by him. He seems tough. I'm still sticking with him being Apocalymon level. He could be the level of Yggdrasil in Savers.

Pyron_Express
Neo used Zero Genesis which separated space-time and caused the destruction of both worlds. It looks like Victorygreymon and Z'dGarurumon got hit by Neo's Zero Genesis, which should be a good durability feat, inless they were saved by Yggdrasil.
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/24-28.png
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/24-29.png
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/24-30.png
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k44/yusukes145/Digimon/001-1.jpg

The characters in Digimon Next were pretty powerful. Chaosdramon destroyed a city in a single shot, and he was defeated(not killed) by Machgaomon. So we know that Machgaomon>City destroyers, and Victorygreymon is more powerful then Machgaomon, so imagine what he can potentially do.

After arguing with you and re-thinking this over i guess i would place Neo just alittle above Apocalymon. I think i kinda over overestimate Neo mainly because when Neo warped his universe we see him being bigger then galaxies and shit(TTGL-style). Which i thought was pretty impressive.

Astner
Originally posted by BradBalboa
does milleniumon beat Ominimon ?? i think i saw that on youtube
You're thinking of Diaboromon, though Omnimon defeated him.

http://ca.geocities.com/digi_josied3/images/Diaboromon.jpg

King Kandy
Perhaps he was thinking of Armaggemon, who defeated Omnimon.

Pyron_Express
Quick question

When Mille split the Digital World in half, was it the planet or reality itself that split? Since Mille did split the Digital 'World' - and that can mean the planet or the reality.

I remember someone saying that Mille split reality itself.

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