batman with the power gem vs darkseid and silver surfer

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carnage52
batman knows how to use the gem.how does this go?

tkitna
Batman still loses

Hannibal-Lector
Does the powergem give the user complete control over teh physical spectrum or just enhances the users strength when seperate from the other gems

carver9
How would the gem enhance a human. Due to his physiology he might get killed because he body might can handle the power.

occultdestroyer
Batman w/ PG

carnage52
Originally posted by carver9
How would the gem enhance a human. Due to his physiology he might get killed because he body might can handle the power. i dont think that matters it just gives you access to all the strength that is and ever will be.

TricksterPriest
team 2. Power Gem is grossly overblown on this forum.

Starscream M
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
team 2. Power Gem is grossly overblown on this forum. power gem makes one at the very least immortal no?

with batman's intellect...I fail to see how team 2 beats him.

Mr Master
Originally posted by carnage52

batman knows how to use the gem.

how does this go?
Batman wins.

Complete invulnerability, concussive blast composed of infinite energies,
immortality,
flight capabilities (to any level) and on, and on, meh, absolute raw power.

Basically Batman can give himself any physical attribute one can imagine.


When the heroes jumped Thanos, (while he was only accessing the Power gem)
they had exactly a 0.5% chance of winning,
and even Thor was included in that gang.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Mr Master
Batman wins.

Complete invulnerability, concussive blast composed of infinite energies,
immortality,
flight capabilities (to any level) and on, and on, meh, absolute raw power.

Basically Batman can give himself any physical attribute one can imagine.


When the heroes jumped Thanos, (while he was only accessing the Power gem)
they had exactly a 0.5% chance of winning,
and even Thor was included in that gang.

I agree

tkitna
Originally posted by Mr Master
Batman wins.

Complete invulnerability, concussive blast composed of infinite energies,
immortality,
flight capabilities (to any level) and on, and on, meh, absolute raw power.

Basically Batman can give himself any physical attribute one can imagine.


How did Thor lose to Thaons with the power gem then?

Not arguing, just curious. Was it because Thor was practically mad and didnt control it properly or was it the tech? Thanos also punked the Champion with it. I realize Bruce is more intelligent than both, but was still curious.

Mr Master
Originally posted by tkitna

How did Thor lose to Thaons with the power gem then?

Not arguing, just curious.
Was it because Thor was practically mad
and didnt control it properly or was it the tech?
Any honest question is respectfully absorbed good friend. smile

Thor never actually lost though, he was momentarily stalled, yes,
due to his in-ability to tap the Gem fully.

Yet still,
Thanos admitted that within a very short time (3 hours)
Thor would become completely unstoppable anyway,
Thor was becoming more powerful literally by the second,
because he was slightly tapping the Gem.

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Thanos states:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/470562_PG15.jpg

"With the backing of the Power Gem,
there is NO limit to the force he can muster against us.
With each passing second he becomes stronger"

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Originally posted by tkitna

Thanos also punked the Champion with it.
Not exactly, Thanos tricked the Champion
into destroying the planet they were with one punch,
this left Champion floating helplessly in space,
then Thanos bargained with Champion to help him with the Gem as the price.

Now, Champion was even less adaptable than Thor,
Champion wasn't tapping the Gem at all,
the Gem
had automatically boosted Champion's raw strength, and invulnerability
but since that's all the Gem will give you if you don't tap it at all, he was limited.

Had Champion had even an inkling of how to manipulate the Gem,
he could've easily gave himself flight capabilities,
thus rendering his helpless floating body in space null.

Originally posted by tkitna

I realize Bruce is more intelligent than both
Thor was tapping the Gem slightly, and he curbstomped,
Warlock & Dr Strange simultaneously in one move,
he also one-shotted Silver Surfer/Drax and Pip simultaneously.
heck, even Eternity himself
stated that Thor was a threat to a good portion of Infinity and himself.

Anyway, then Thanos came with his amazing tech,
and contained Thor is an energy construct,
which Thor was going to break out of in 3 hours, (as he slowly adapted to the Gem)
after which, nothing was going to give him pause.

guy222
bruce

TricksterPriest
Timestop, speedblitz, mindrape, there are a variety of options.

Mr. M, has the power gem ever displayed the level of power that Thanos showed during the IG arc 'on it's own' ?

It makes the user stronger, more durable, and close to immortal, yes, but infinite power? It may have the potential, but has it ever used it without the other gems to give it a focus?

Mr Master
Originally posted by TricksterPriest

Timestop, speedblitz, mindrape, there are a variety of options.
The Power Gem doesn't control time or minds.

Speedblitz capabilities Bats would surely have though.

Basically you can give yourself any ability imaginable,
except for the abilities of the other 5 Gems.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest

Mr. M,
has the power gem ever displayed the level of power that Thanos showed during the IG arc 'on it's own?
Not to my knowledge,
only Thanos (within said arc) was able to milk the Power Gem for all its worth.

Thor, may have been able harness alot more than anyone besides Thanos,
but not fully,
and with much more time required to even reach that level.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

It makes the user stronger, more durable, and close to immortal, yes,
but infinite power?
It may have the potential,
but has it ever used it without the other gems to give it a focus?
Eternity embodiment of Time across the infinite Multiverse states:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/470554_PG10.jpg

"Thor .... a danger ... to a good portion of ALL that is Infinity & myself"

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We, see what Eternity said about Thor, who was not harnessing it fully,
but was tapping it slightly and adapting by the second,
would Thor have reached full potential? I honestly can't say one way or another.

But I do know,
that Thanos can and did, he did on panel during the IG arc as you know.

If Bats can tap the Gem fully, as the thread starter wants him to,
only infinite control of another aspect can defeat him imo.

ie. Absolute control of time > absolute power.

The Great Galen
So basically a gun owned infinite power LMAO.

Mr Master
lmfao
Originally posted by Mr Master

Thor never actually lost though, he was momentarily stalled,

yes,

due to his in-ability to tap the Gem fully.

Yet still,
Thanos admitted that within a very short time (3 hours)
Thor would become completely unstoppable anyway,
Thor was becoming more powerful literally by the second,
because he was slightly tapping the Gem.
smile

The Great Galen
The PG gem to me still isn't that impressive, in fact I've seen guys like Hulk,SS,Supes,Thor and even gladiator have much more credible feats under there own power. When was the last time anyone with the PG flew 100 times FTL.

tkitna
Originally posted by Mr Master

Not exactly, Thanos tricked the Champion
into destroying the planet they were with one punch,
this left Champion floating helplessly in space,
then Thanos bargained with Champion to help him with the Gem as the price.

Now, Champion was even less adaptable than Thor,
Champion wasn't tapping the Gem at all,
the Gem
had automatically boosted Champion's raw strength, and invulnerability
but since that's all the Gem will give you if you don't tap it at all, he was limited.

Had Champion had even an inkling of how to manipulate the Gem,
he could've easily gave himself flight capabilities,
thus rendering his helpless floating body in space null.



Thanks for the answers Mr M. I still have a problem with an Elder Of The Universe possessing the Power Primordial being as helpless as a baby because he destroyed the planet that he was standing on. You would think that he would possess enough power to teleport or fly. Oh well. Its only comics.

Mr Master
Originally posted by tkitna

Thanks for the answers Mr M.
Anytime friend.
Originally posted by tkitna

I still have a problem with an Elder Of The Universe possessing the Power Primordial being as helpless as a baby because he destroyed the planet that he was standing on. You would think that he would possess enough power to teleport or fly. Oh well. Its only comics.
Well, technically speaking, it's not really in Champion's power set to fly:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8187/champmb2.th.jpg

Still, I've seen him navigate through space with the Elders,
although, now you got me thinking,
but I'm not sure if he was being guided by the others,
I'll have to flip some pages and get back to this.

Galan007
When did Thor have the PG?

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Mr Master
Anytime friend.

Well, technically speaking, it's not really in Champion's power set to fly:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8187/champmb2.th.jpg

Still, I've seen him navigate through space with the Elders,
although, now you got me thinking,
but I'm not sure if he was being guided by the others,
I'll have to flip some pages and get back to this. one of the other elders must have been levitating him. champion has devoted ALL of his primordial energies towards his physique so it would take him millions of years to develop flight powers on his own like his "brothers" did.

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batman wins this because the thread starter stated the he has complete control and understanding of the gem of power, he would be indestructible by default and also immortal, and in possession of physical might that would put pre-crisis superman to shame.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Galan007
When did Thor have the PG? infinity crusade ark

Mr Master
Originally posted by The Great Galen

The PG gem to me still isn't that impressive,
in fact I've seen guys like Hulk, SS, Supes, Thor
Supes? DC is not my thing.

But you believe Hulk, SS and Thor are more impressive than the Power Gem.

laughing


Thanos with full control of the Power gem,
using just the Power Gem, putting a clinic on many heroes,
including the Marvel ones you mentioned.

Thanos cuts off his access to the other 5 Gems,
it's just the Power Gem baby:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513870_PG1.jpg

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513871_PG2.jpg



Hulk, SS, Thor ... eat your heart out!

Mr Master
Let do it:



Hulk and Drax attack Thanos first:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513872_PG3.jpg




Drax is owned:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513873_PG4.jpg




Hulk is toyed with: .... then Vision attacks:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513874_PG5.jpg




Thanos isn't fazed ... then Sub-Mariner and She-Hulk attack Thanos:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513880_PG6.jpg




Sub-Mariner and She-Hulk die:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513881_PG7.jpg




Thor attacks Thanos: ... while Doom tries to take the IG:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513882_PG8.jpg




Doom is owned:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513883_PG9.jpg




Thor attacks Thanos again ... but this time Thor's hammer is bfr'd:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513884_PG10.jpg




Thor is slapped away like a child ...

while Firelord attacks Thanos ... who is also slapped away like another child:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513885_PG11.jpg

Mr Master
Wolverine attacks Thanos:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513886_PG12.jpg




Wolverine dies:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513887_PG13.jpg




Scarlet Witch and Cyclops attack Thanos: ... first Wanda dies:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513888_PG14.jpg





Cyclops gets owned ... then Iron Man attacks Thanos:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513889_PG15.jpg





Terraxia decides to rush Iron Man ... Cyclops dies ... Vision ...

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513890_PG16.jpg



... Vision dies:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513891_PG17.jpg

Mr Master
Cloak attacks Thanos ... Cloak dies:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513892_PG18.jpg




Firelord & Drax haven't died yet, they both attack Thanos again:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513893_PG19.jpg




Although Thanos is only using the Power gem ...

... Starfox knows this is a "slaughter"

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513894_PG20.jpg




Thor's hammer is allowed to return from the bfr:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513902_PG21.jpg




But then Drax and Firelord get bfr'd ... Iron man dies (decapitation)

... Spiderman webs up Thanos' eyes:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513903_PG22.jpg

Mr Master
Spiderman and Thor attack Thanos ... Terraxia owns Spidey:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513904_PG23.jpg




Thor is owned:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513905_PG24.jpg




Nova attacks Thanos ... Nova dies:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513906_PG25.jpg




Thor dies ... Quasar is ready to attack Thanos:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513917_PG26.jpg




Thanos disintegrates Quasar's quantum bands, then disintegrates Quasar:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513918_PG27.jpg




Captain America's shield is shattered to pieces with a slap:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513919_PG28.jpg




Captain America dies with a slap to the face:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513940_PG30.jpg

Mr Master
Originally posted by The Great Galen

and even gladiator have much more credible feats under there own power.
When was the last time anyone with the PG flew 100 times FTL.

When was the last time anyone with the PG flew 100 times FTL?

I don't know what difference that would make in this battle but ..
Here's Silver Surfer coming at what seems full speed,
who we KNOW is faster than Gladiator,
Surfer was trying to strip the IG from Thanos,
Thanos dodges his incredible speed:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513942_PG31.jpg

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513943_PG32.jpg

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/513944_PG33.jpg

Finally, after everyone got killed,
Thanos decides to upgrade himself again to the other 5 Gems:


Respect the Power gem dogs!

Mr Master
Oh wait .. as for Silver Surfer, Warlock and Dr Strange:


Yea, them too. owned2


Remember Thor when he had the Power gem ...

Remember Thor was NOT harnessing the Power Gem any where near Thanos?

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Warlock and Dr Strange attack Thor with all they got.

Yet, with a thought, Thor turns their own power against them:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/470576_PG7.jpg

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/470580_PG8.jpg

"He's tapping the Power gem, turning our energies back on ... unnff .... aggh"



... owned ...

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Silver Surfer and Drax can't believe their eyes:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/470578_PG9-1.jpg

"Unthinkable ... both Stephen & Adam overwhelmed so easily"


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Thor one-shots Silver Surfer, Drax and Pip: (after owning the rest of the Watch)


http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/470556_PG11.jpg

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/470558_PG12.jpg

"I wake up and find out everyone else is down for the count"



... owned ...

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Pip states:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/470560_PG13.jpg

"Goldilocks ... wants to destroy everything ...
he's got a pretty good chance of doing it too,
since he took the Power Gem"


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ouch ... again ...

Respect the Power Gem dogs!

tkitna
I never thought the power gem had those capabilities. I always thought that it boosted the owners physical attributes to almost unbeatable proportions. Its been awhile since i've read the IG and I forgot that Thanos was only using the Power Gem. Guess the gem has a lot more potential than I had thought. Oh well, its always good to be refreshed and to learn.

carnage52
on second thought batman with the pg is quite a scary one.

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