Sonic and the Black Knight

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Kero_Co
Some of you may have already been aware of the new Wii-exclusive title.


http://www.iceruby.com/sonicadvance3/SCAN001001.jpg

Looks like I'll be picking up an issue of Nintendo Power.

Kapton JAC
A sword? What happened to the days when Sonic was based on speed?


It does however intrigue me...

This may have potential, but it will probably not be any good, since, you know there hasn't been a really good sonic game since Sonic Adventure.

MadMel
secret rings erm

GenomeFrozener
Sonic looks like ****ing win with that sword.

xNIXSONx
yes, swordly, just what the series needs to revitalize a mascot that has had some trouble making a worth next gen appearance

Yoshi Paradise
Originally posted by Kero_Co
Some of you may have already been aware of the new Wii-exclusive title.


http://www.iceruby.com/sonicadvance3/SCAN001001.jpg

Looks like I'll be picking up an issue of Nintendo Power.

Sonic looks pretty cool with a sword.

I'll be waiting for the trailer.

Scythe
Ah, here we go...

Remember Shadow's guns? Yeah... I do...

I think Sonic needs to pull a Megaman and revert back to it's old days, it would sell, alot.

GenomeFrozener
I admit, I went crazy over the news. Now I'm back to my senses.
http://i35.tinypic.com/2z8qlw1.jpg

Scythe
Hahaha.

MadMel
laughing out loud

xNIXSONx
Originally posted by Scythe
Ah, here we go...

Remember Shadow's guns? Yeah... I do...

I think Sonic needs to pull a Megaman and revert back to it's old days, it would sell, alot.

Sonic needs to go the way of Sonic Rush Adventure, the thing with that game is he turns into a Were-Hog at night and kotaku states that the werehog sonic is slow, stretchy and melee combat based...

if Sonic Unleashed or this black knight game doesnt work then i say that they should bring sonic back to the old tried, tested and true formula that made Sonic popular in the first place, or sell the rights to a new developer

ESB -1138
Sonic Team has a new team leader and Sonic Unleashed is the first game he's (Takeshi Sakakibara) was in charge in so I'm going to hold my judgment till the game is released and as for the Sonic Unleashed Wii version it is being created by Dimps (the same people who did Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure) so already that version sounds better.

As for Sonic and the Black Night...well...at least they ain't giving Sonic guns.

Oh and for Unleashed; Sonic Team has said that Sonic is the only playable character in the main game (Unleashed will have minigames like Secret Rings).

Kero_Co
I'm thinking, almost hoping, that black knight is the indirect sequel to Secret Rings. I don't think they want another Unleashed style sonic game to be released so soon. It could very well be a Console RPG, but I'm hoping for a sonic-style high speed hack and slash.

Kapton JAC
Originally posted by GenomeFrozener
I admit, I went crazy over the news. Now I'm back to my senses.
http://i35.tinypic.com/2z8qlw1.jpg

Too true. sad

MadMel
a thought just occured to me
http://theflashgames.blogspot.com/2008/06/final-fantasy-sonic-x6.html
laughing out loud

Kero_Co
"The official press release has just landed on our desk, complete with further details on the title. It follows on from Sonic and the Secrtet Rings as the second part of the Wii exclusive storybook series, and is being developed by Sonic Team in Japan. Transporting Sonic back to an Arthurian medieval world, it arms Sonic with a sword to tackle his foes. It's currently scheduled for release in Spring 2009, so keep a look out for more details here as they emerge."

and now we know. Actually, I was hoping for the next story to be Gulliver Travels. I guess we'll see the return of Darkspine. Hopefully they'll be more cutscenes and a better theme. Seven Rings in Hand sucks hard.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Kero_Co
I guess we'll see the return of Darkspine.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Kero_Co
The way I see it, it's either Darkspine or a brand new incarnation (armored sonic?). I'm almost certain they want to stray away from Super Sonic in the "story book" series

ESB -1138
How about and this may sound crazy...no transformation for once.

Kero_Co
Dashing idea ol'bean, but I wouldn't think Sega would do that, but after learning that you can play as Knuckles or Shadow as well, and the fact that Knuckles hasn't gone Super/Hyper on his own in forever, you may indeed be right.

http://www.nintendic.com/news/2768

http://www.slashgamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/blacksonic10.jpg

Pics from Nintendo Power.

ESB -1138
Why does that look like Nightmare...and why is Sonic's sword called Calibur?

Sonic Chronicles, Sonic Unleashed (360 and Wii version), Sonic Rush 3, Sonic & the Black Knight...man I'll be in Sonic heaven if these games are good.

SaTsuJiN
I lol'ed hard @ sonic with a sword

and the story? do they even try anymore?.. c'mon already

First_Tsurugi06
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Why does that look like Nightmare...and why is Sonic's sword called Calibur?

He looks more like Fire Emblem's Black Knight to me.

And Sonic's sword even looks like the FE BK's Alondite sword...

ESB -1138
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
I lol'ed hard @ sonic with a sword

and the story? do they even try anymore?.. c'mon already

Playing a Sonic game for the story is like playing a Mario game for the story...you don't. You play it for gameplay which Sonic has sucked at in some...most...all his 3D games with the only redeeming one being Secret Rings.

Neo Darkhalen
Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure are the only sonic games in these past few years that i like, interesting idea though....Sonic with a Sword about time haermm is this a sequel of sorts to secret rings?

Still here's hoping for a good game in unleashed and black knight.

ESB -1138
Black Knight is the sequel to Secret Rings

ESB -1138
Well...I submitted my entry to the Sonic & the Black Knight contest.

Kero_Co
Sonic and the Black Knight Trailer

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/276238.html

You can not imagine how relieved I a to find that this theme isn't as awful as Seven Rings in Hand.

Zack Fair
Gave up on Sonic years ago.

ESB -1138
Sounds like Crush 40

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Gave up on Sonic years ago.

Then why come to a Sonic thread?

Kero_Co
It is Crush 40

Zack Fair
Because I was curious and got nothing else to do while the movies I am DLing finish.

Is that good enough?

jalek moye
Originally posted by Kero_Co
It is Crush 40
doesnt crush 40 do all their songs?

Kero_Co
Most of them. They switch it up every now and then.

Yoshi Paradise
Originally posted by Kero_Co
Sonic and the Black Knight Trailer

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/276238.html

You can not imagine how relieved I a to find that this theme isn't as awful as Seven Rings in Hand.

That's a good trailer.

I wonder if some of his friends will be playable.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
That's a good trailer.

I wonder if some of his friends will be playable.

Shadow and Knuckles have been confirmed to be playable though playing as them is optional.

Yoshi Paradise
I figured those two would be playable.

Although I doubt it, it would be nice if Amy is a playable character.

THE JLRTENJAC
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Shadow and Knuckles have been confirmed to be playable though playing as them is optional.
Cool. It does my heart good to see my two favorite sonic charaters being added as playable characters. smile

First_Tsurugi06
Originally posted by THE JLRTENJAC
Cool. It does my heart good to see my two favorite sonic charaters being added as playable characters. smile

This. They be my faves too.



Not this. She be my most detested.

They also need a game that focuses mainly, if not entirely, on Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles. Make them the real stars again like they used to be, before they had to share the spotlight with the likes of Amy (they've overused her concept to the point that she's just the most annoying central character in the series. Sonic doesn't like you--get it through your head, you squeaky little B*tch!), Cream (did they need an excuse to have a recurring chao?), Big (and I'm a cat lover), and those dumbass birds (What's that, Jet? I couldn't understand your egotistical rant because of that intolerable parrot-like squacking you call your voice).

Kero_Co
-Nunchuk to move Sonic, A to Jump and flick of the Wiimote to attack, and Z to block

- Knuckles, Shadow and Blaze are bosses in the game, they are part of a round table, once you beat them they become your friend. They are playable as well, though this is optional.

- Each environment has about 6 to 9 missions.

- 3 fighting styles to choose from. Cavalier style = speed. Paladin style = Strength or Knight Style = a balance of both.

- You can get new skills, like in Secret rings.

- There also seems to be a multiplayer mode (Battle and Survivor Mode)

- There are Solo Missions designed specifically for ranked online challenges.

From Game-Spin about the new Nintendo Power.

Also, European Box Art?

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/336296ps_500h.jpg

Yoshi Paradise
The box art looks cool.

I think it's nice to have more than one fighting styles.

Kero_Co

Kero_Co
Moar news.

Amy=Lady of the Lake
Shadow=Lancelot
Knuckles=Gawain

There's also a new style "cutscene" although it is still similar to that of Satsr.

Yoshi Paradise
That's some interesting information, and it's good for Amy to be in this game.

I just hope she's playable.

Kero_Co
It doesn't look like it. Someone made the comment that in King Arthur the only thing you saw of the Lady of the Lake was her arm. Amy might just get Megged.What I find interesting is that SEGA is always talking about returning sonic to his roots(with crazy gimmicks!) gameplay wise, but it seems like they're trying to do it from a character standpoint this time. Sonic looks shorter and rounder, and he's eating freakin chili dogs. I don't know about you, but Sonic+Chili Dog=Smiles.

Kero_Co

ThunderGodEneru
Originally posted by Kero_Co
Moar news.

Amy=Lady of the Lake
Shadow=Lancelot
Knuckles=Gawain

There's also a new style "cutscene" although it is still similar to that of Satsr. Wait, wut?

So this game basically is putting the Sonic Characters in the Mythological time of King Arthur, and placing them as characters who were actually in the mythos?

Lolz.

Yoshi Paradise

Neo Darkhalen
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Wait, wut?

So this game basically is putting the Sonic Characters in the Mythological time of King Arthur, and placing them as characters who were actually in the mythos?

Lolz.

Blaze, Shadow and Knuckles are members of the Knights of the round tables, King Aurthur is apparently the main villain. ( I find it all amusing as well.)

General Kaliero
Wait, but... Joan of Arc was never part of Arthurian legend... I'm confused.

Ahh well, at least Blaze is actually there.

Kero_Co
Blaze came from another timeline, it's kind of fitting that her character doesn't fit.

MadMel
shadow = lancelot??

ROFL!!! laughing

ThunderGodEneru
Originally posted by General Kaliero
Wait, but... Joan of Arc was never part of Arthurian legend... I'm confused.

Ahh well, at least Blaze is actually there. Wasn't aware of that, Joan of Arc was a real person.

Oh and Blaze has fire powers, and the real Joan of Arc was executed by burning at the stake, that amuses me.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Wait, wut?

So this game basically is putting the Sonic Characters in the Mythological time of King Arthur, and placing them as characters who were actually in the mythos?

Lolz.

Yeah; that's what they did with the Secret Rings. It's part of a Sonic storybook series.

killermover
Can't they make another Sonic Adventure 2? Instead of this piece of crap.

Yoshi Paradise
They won't make another game called "Sonic Adventure 2" since there's already a game with that title for the Dreamcast. (Yes, I know what you meant.)

Anyway, you shouldn't bash the game until you've seen a decent amount of gameplay videos and screenshots. Judging by what I've seen on the Internet and magazines, this game should be interesting.

ThunderGodEneru
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Yeah; that's what they did with the Secret Rings. It's part of a Sonic storybook series. But Secret Rings sucked.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
But Secret Rings sucked.

Secret Rings was good, I don't know what you're talking about.

But tech school sucks...I have to wait 14 days until I can play console games so I have to wait to play Sonic Unleashed.

Kero_Co
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/10362.html

New Trailer

Waa-haa!

General Kaliero
Hm. Looks interesting. I'd like to see a demo, though.

Yoshi Paradise
Well, we'll just have to wait for that.
Originally posted by Kero_Co
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/10362.html

New Trailer

Waa-haa!

That was a very good trailer.

First_Tsurugi06
I'll assume the wizard girl is the Merlina character I read about before. Is it just me or does she look unoriginally similar to Sharah from Secret Rings?

Kero_Co
It's not just you. They probably did that on purpose. Probably.

Armored Sonic, I knew it was coming, I just didn't want it to. It looks so-so, but if it's going to win me over, it better play awesome. It also makes me question whether or not Knuckles, Blaze, and Shadow will have super forms as well.

Yoshi Paradise
Well, one thing we can count on when playing a sonic game is an awesome soundtrack.

ThunderGodEneru
That's true.

My favorite videogame songs are from Sonic.

Yoshi Paradise
Exactly. Out of all the Sonic games I've played, which is most of them, my favorite soundtrack was from "Sonic Heroes".

The music in that game is wonderful.

First_Tsurugi06
^Hell yeah.

I've got about four different Sonic Heroes songs on my desktop.

What I'm Made Of still ranks as my favorite.

Yoshi Paradise
I have a bunch of the BGMs downloaded to my computer, but I don't think I could choose a favorite.

"Sonic Adventure 2: Battle" and "Sonic Battle" had some good music, too.

General Kaliero
SA2's soundtrack is my favorite Sonic soundtrack.

That is, after disregarding about half of Knuckles' music, and Tails' incredibly gay theme song. The rest of it is great, though.

Rush gets props too, for the crazy Jet Set Radio vibe.

Yoshi Paradise
Most, if not all, of the BGMs from Knuckles' stages were just rap songs, which is why I disliked them. It would've been much better if they were just instrumentals.

The first three Sonic games on the Sega Genesis had a good soundtrack, too.

Kero_Co
Sandopolis Act 1 is my ringtone...

killermover
Shadow's Never turn back was epic.

ESB -1138
This Machine was just...awesome. Sonic Team is amazing at making music.

Kero_Co
Blaze as Percival

http://www.wiinintendo.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/percival.jpg

General Kaliero
Huh. Interesting.

ale-8-1
I really hope this is a good game, Sonic The Hedgehog was ok, and so was Sonic Unleashed (Gameplay-wise) I liked secret rings, and And I hope since this is a sequel this will be good too.

Yoshi Paradise
Originally posted by Kero_Co
Blaze as Percival

http://www.wiinintendo.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/percival.jpg

That's an interesting picture.

I would like to see her in action.

Kero_Co
http://wii.ign.com/articles/952/952097p2.html

I love the environments, and I don't really mind the aimless waggle. It's almost second nature at this point <_<.
The only thing I'm worried about is that I really think they removed the option to play single-player with Knuckles, Shadow, etc.

Yoshi Paradise
If they did, then at least we'll be able to play with them in the battle mode.

I wonder what kind of special attacks they'll have...

Kero_Co
Silver

http://i44.tinypic.com/nvwoy1.png

I know he has his finds, but really, his story is kinda of done. I'd rather see Espio.

General Kaliero
I really just want Silver gone. His game never happened, so he's got no reason to be sticking around.

Yoshi Paradise
I never played and completed "Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)", so what was Silver's purpose in the game?

ThunderGodEneru
To be an ass hole.

Kero_Co
Here's a trailer that should up fa week ago when I was sick and still had to go to all those damn birthday parties <_<.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/45415.html

Ends with a short fight with shadow.

Yoshi Paradise
The game looks awesome, and I liked the music that played throughout the trailer.

Kero_Co
I agree on both accounts.

Here's a similar trailer that ends with Blaze

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1bdVv2cAU8

Yoshi Paradise
That was a good video, and I'd play this game just to listen to the music.

Man, Sonic Team makes some of the best soundtracks.

ESB -1138
8/10 from Nintendo Power.

Yoshi Paradise
That's a pretty good score for a Sonic game.

Kero_Co
I hear complaints that Nintendo Power gives everyone 8s. Why are Sonic fans so self-destructive?

Anyway, it's Gawain's turn.

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/142/14268379/vids_1.html

I must say, I like the artistic direction of the cutscenes way better this time, so much so that I wish the in game graphics were more similar. It would certainly be an interesting way to set the storybook series from the main series.

Yoshi Paradise
That was a good video, and now I'm waiting for footage of a full boss battle.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Kero_Co
I hear complaints that Nintendo Power gives everyone 8s. Why are Sonic fans so self-destructive?

Anyway, it's Gawain's turn.

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/142/14268379/vids_1.html

I must say, I like the artistic direction of the cutscenes way better this time, so much so that I wish the in game graphics were more similar. It would certainly be an interesting way to set the storybook series from the main series.

Now if I recall correctly...Nintendo Power gave Zelda OoT its lowest score so it's not like they're just being nice or anything.

ale-8-1
cant wait sonic kicks super ass

Kero_Co
It's almost here, I'm excited. To be hones, I haven't touched my wii in about two months. This and Madworld gives me a reason to dust off the ol' wiimote.

Kero_Co
http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14268379/sonic-the-black-knight-/videos/blackknighttrailer_030209.html

Last trailer before release. It's more of the same, except for a fight with the Black Knight.

Yoshi Paradise
I'm wondering how long the boss battles will be. I just hope they're not too easy.

Kero_Co
http://wii.ign.com/articles/958/958855p1.html

3.9 to Nintendo Power's 8

but I always knew this is a game that I'd have to play for myself.

After reading the review, other than the awful multiplayer, I don't see how this is so much worse then Sonic Unleashed. Slow as molasses? Werehog much? mediocre camera? Every 3D sonic game ever. No real details are given on music, which is something that is normally brought up in a sonic game.
After reading this review, I want to get my hands on it even more.

Kero_Co
http://www.gaj-it.com/6036/review-sonic-and-the-black-knight/

UK review

Famitsu- 7/6/7/6 - 26/40

Yoshi Paradise
Wow, it's getting some low scores.

I'm just going to have to play it myself.

Kero_Co
I like it, it's more of an action/adventure than a platformer. My only problem is that, eventually, as to be expected, waggle does get old, and the environments, as pretty as they are, aren't as creative as secret rings. I haven't delved into multiplayer yet. Knuckles and Shadow play well in single player, although I'm not to crazy about Blaze's play style. There's enough of a difference to tell them apart, and Knuckles keeps his signature glide. Also, the music doesn't make me want to facepalm. Imo, with the exception of stage design, it is better than secret rings in every way.

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