Exodus vs Manchester Black

The two are both bloodlusted and fight:

1.) A telepathic battle (in the real world or on the Astral Plane)
2.) A telekinetic battle (No BFR)

Who wins in each case and why?

No responses? Has this already been done before?

I personally say:
1.) Exodus wins Telepathic battle, especially on the Astral Plane
2.) Manchester wins Telekinetic battle, unless it's a long-drawn out battle (since Exodus apparently can feed off of the psionic energy around him)

Which version of Exodus is this? I'm asking since outside of Blood Ties he jobbed to pretty much everybody. Disgustingly much...like Quicksilver with the Isotope pwning him? Bleh...

So he's been weak in every story except Bloodties?

That's not how jobbing works.

Originally posted by llagrok
So he's been weak in every story except Bloodties?

That's not how jobbing works.

More like toned down....a LOT. And yes, he did job to QS. Are you kidding me? After what he showed he was capable of in Blood Ties QS is faster than a blanket psi attack? Pfffsh...

He didn't look very capable against Apocalypse either.

I thought Apocalypse was crap?

If I'm not mistaken, Holocaust without his armor stalemated Exodus.

Originally posted by llagrok
He didn't look very capable against Apocalypse either.

I thought Apocalypse was crap?

If I'm not mistaken, Holocaust without his armor stalemated Exodus.

Which issue are you referring to with Exodus and Apoc?

Also, stop trolling and baiting me with the Apocalypse comments or you might either get reported or simply force me to show you some of Exodus' higher feats.

What issues? The one where he attacked full force, Apocalypse was virtually unaffected and depowered him.

It's baiting to refer to actual incidents? alrighty.

Originally posted by llagrok
What issues? The one where he attacked full force, Apocalypse was virtually unaffected and depowered him.

It's baiting to refer to actual incidents? alrighty.

I asked for issue numbers. Do you know? Have you read them? Or just some of Ash's scans?

No, that's not baiting. You know fully well what baiting is.

It's in Black Knight: Exodus 😐