Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I've just skimmed through some of the info Mr Master posted on him, since I wasn't familiar to him at all,
and he doesn't seem to be more than a Universal power.
Capable of supposdley destroying any Universe in the Omniverse
but, still, a Universal power. Is there something I missed ?
Actually, Vanguaard seems to exist across multiple Realities simultaneously,
which probably explains why he can erase Timelines back to back effortlessly:
http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/555271_Van1.jpg
http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/555272_Van2.jpg
Although it's true, he takes out one Universe at a time,
we can't constrict him to just a Universal power because of this,
remember, he exists with a cosmic purpose,
his job is to erase redundant Timelines,
and since Timelies are diverging at every instant, he has his hands full,
apparently even with his simultaneous multiple manifestations,
so he can't erase the Multiverse entire, even he had the power to do it,
not saying he could at all, I really can't say for sure, but we know even if he could,
he can't since he acts on protocol.
Still though,
he proved he could withstand Time & Space being obliterated in his face,
without giving him pause,
also,
he was going to own Psi-Lord, who couldn't faze him,
and Psi-Lord = Universal power.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I also found something interesting while looking at the scans. Apparently, the Marvel Universe has a certain amount of 'energy', and with each alternate Universe being created, more and more of that energy is being 'used' sort to speak, which is why Vangaard destroys the Universes. So practically, the Marvel Universe is the energy of a Universe, only divided between multipled Universes.
While that's true,
that part of the deal pertains only to one Multiverse:
http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/555273_Van3.jpg
Not the Omniverse entire,
which encompasses as you know an infinite amount of MultiverseS.
Although, the Prime Multiverse (616 in fact) supports the Omniverse,
so you may be right anyway Erik.
btw, Just for info's sake,
Vanguaard has erased at-least 1,000,000 Timelines:
http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/555335_Van4.jpg
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
It is also a logical thing, which, as seen in some scans posted not so long ago on this board, applies to the DC Universe aswell (IIRC). It was something about the DC Multiverse being created, and each Universes being 'inferior' to the original, single Universe, or something of that sort. Just a thought, and it is based mostly on just fast-reading some scans, so it might not be accurate, thus why I must read the issues for myself.
That sounds interesting, it does resemble Marvel,
because 616 contains the infinite power of the prime Multiverse,
and evidently,
it's from withIN 616
that the natural creation energy of all Marvel Timelines & Alternate Realities is born.
Of course, there are other Universes,
that are created by self-sufficient beings of ample power.
But the vast majority of Marvel stems from 616.
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Galan once gave an analogy that defines this very subject perfectly:
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"The 616 Universe is like a boundless Ocean....
An Ocean which stems into a boundless amount of lakes....
Lakes which stem into a boundless amount of diverging rivers.....
Rivers which stem into a boundless amount of diverging streams,
and a boundless amount of diverging tributaries after those....
And so on and so forth, infinitely.....
All of these lakes, rivers, streams, tributaries, etc,
are what make up the entire Marvel Omniverse.
Dry up one of those diverging streams or tributaries,
and you just lose that one body of water, as it is basically it's own entity...
However,
Dry up the original Ocean,
and you dry up everything stemming from it, (the Marvel Omniverse),
as all is fed by, and stems from, that one initial Ocean."
Galan gets the credit for this.
