Parallax vs the whole marvel universe

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Indestructible
Do you think Parallax could beat the marvel universe by himself

carnage52
which version?

bbrem123
Originally posted by Indestructible
Do you think Parallax could beat the marvel universe by himself

no

vlaaad12345
Depends on what you mean by beating marvel,if you mean conquer/destroy a universe in marvel and we are talking about zero hour parallax when he had the central battery+crisis energy+entropy he could destroy people like eternity ect so yes,but if people like lt got involved obviously he would lose.

Indestructible
Originally posted by bbrem123
no
Good! BECAUSE I AM SICK OF EVERYONE THINKING PARALLAX CAN BEAT ANYONE evil face

fangirl101
Originally posted by Indestructible
Do you think Parallax could beat the marvel universe by himself Zero Hour Parallax could beat everyone but the Spectre. So If the LT doesn't get involved, then Yes, Parallax would beat everyone outside of the LT.

Priest
To bad LT=/=Spectre

CaptainStoic
Originally posted by fangirl101
Zero Hour Parallax could beat everyone but the Spectre. So If the LT doesn't get involved, then Yes, Parallax would beat everyone outside of the LT.

There other entities in the Marvel Universe that may be able to usurp his power, a well written Mephisto for example would be able to give him hell. Death as well, but when you add to the amount of Cosmic Cube beings that are in Marvel, it shrinks his chances by quite the margin.

I'm not saying that he could not do it, Asteroth was a being that if left unchecked would have been on Parallaxes level, but she was stopped as well.

As for the original question as to if he could beat the entire Marvel Universe combined.... HELL NO!

bbrem123
oblivion would destroy him

Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by Indestructible
Do you think Parallax could beat the marvel universe by himself

No.

celestialdemon
No, Parallax can't.

fangirl101
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
There other entities in the Marvel Universe that may be able to usurp his power, a well written Mephisto for example would be able to give him hell. Death as well, but when you add to the amount of Cosmic Cube beings that are in Marvel, it shrinks his chances by quite the margin.

I'm not saying that he could not do it, Asteroth was a being that if left unchecked would have been on Parallaxes level, but she was stopped as well.

As for the original question as to if he could beat the entire Marvel Universe combined.... HELL NO!

Obviously if he had the power to erase all of DC, which has just as many powerful beings, then none of those that you mentioned would be able to stop him. The Anti-monitor couldn't even destroy the 12 original guardians. And the battery has far more power than even they wielded. So no. The LT is the only one stopping him.

fangirl101
Originally posted by bbrem123
oblivion would destroy him

Entropy (DC)=Oblivion(marveL)?
Entropy is parallax's to play with.

Nihilist
red hulk knocks him the f*ck out he fears no one.

celestialdemon
Originally posted by Nihilist
red hulk knocks him the f*ck out he fears no one.

laughing QFT

bbrem123
Originally posted by fangirl101
Entropy (DC)=Oblivion(marveL)?
Entropy is parallax's to play with.

all i kno is oblivion calls death his child...and he is the one that will exist when everything is gone

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Indestructible
Do you think Parallax could beat the marvel universe by himself the illuminati get together and give either reed, stark, or strange the gauntlet.

quanchi112
Parallax gets dominated imo.

guy222
MU FTW

Dark-Jaxx
Originally posted by fangirl101
Zero Hour Parallax could beat everyone but the Spectre. So If the LT doesn't get involved, then Yes, Parallax would beat everyone outside of the LT. LT>Spectre. smile

By alot in fact. smile

Faceman
Originally posted by Indestructible
Do you think Parallax could beat the marvel universe by himself

If you're serious then no.

Mr Master
Originally posted by fangirl101

Zero Hour Parallax could beat everyone but the Spectre.
So If the LT doesn't get involved, then Yes,
Parallax would beat everyone outside of the LT.
What does Spectre have to do with the LT?

The entire Marvel Universe?

You know how many ridiculous uber powers we're looking at?

Too many. smile

theTANTALIZER
Originally posted by Indestructible
Do you think Parallax could beat the marvel universe by himself

Nestical
Originally posted by Indestructible
Do you think Parallax could beat the marvel universe by himself

youre joking right?tell me youre joking.that little girl gets stomped by aunt may with THOTI.nah but he does get stomped

xjustice69x
Originally posted by Mr Master
What does Spectre have to do with the LT?

The entire Marvel Universe?

You know how many ridiculous uber powers we're looking at?

Too many. smile

i agree definetly too many!
thumb up

Erik-Lensherr
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
LT>Spectre. smile

By alot in fact. smile

Based on what feats is Living Tribunal Spectre's superior at all ? smile

Knowsbleed33
Based on the fact that Spectre has jobbed it a few times and LT hasn't...ever IIRC.

fangirl101
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Based on the fact that Spectre has jobbed it a few times and LT hasn't...ever IIRC.
Did you know that the spectre has NEVER fully utilized his power. And it's only now with the new Spectre that that will be shown. And yes the LT has jobbered. When his ultimate punishment couldn't kill mikey korvak. Or when reed richards owned him with a cosmic mirror? Or when protege somehow managed to beat out his omnicience and defy his judgement.

Knowsbleed33
IIRC you throw out the GoTG/Protege saga when Scathan gets discussed yet you use it here?

Didn't Spectre get his power usurped by Black Alice?

fangirl101
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
IIRC you throw out the GoTG/Protege saga when Scathan gets discussed yet you use it here?

Didn't Spectre get his power usurped by Black Alice?

Black Alice has No known limit to her magical jacking abilities. But The Spectre is not said to be omnicient. The LT is.

Knowsbleed33
You're arguing that the LT shouldn't have had an issue with Protege if he was all-knowing?

fangirl101
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
You're arguing that the LT shouldn't have had an issue with Protege if he was all-knowing?

Exactly. Nor with Korvak or Reed Richards.

Erik-Lensherr
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Based on the fact that Spectre has jobbed it a few times and LT hasn't...ever IIRC.

It seems you have problems comprehending my question. Here, read it again :

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Based on what feats is Living Tribunal Spectre's superior at all ? smile

Mr Master
Originally posted by fangirl101

And yes the LT has jobbered.

When his ultimate punishment couldn't kill mikey korvak.
Oh, you mean in that 1982 'What if' pis?

Yea,
the LT's ultimate judgement
is turning the local Sun Nova to indirectly attack his opponent LOL!
which Mistress Death helped Korvac survive.

Yet instead with a gesture,
he can disconnect that entire Universe from the Multiverse
and place it withIN an impenetrable barrier, where mikey was trapped?

dontgetit

LT and Korvac never battled directly,
LT and Korvac never even saw each other.
Originally posted by fangirl101

Or when reed richards owned him with a cosmic mirror?
laughing

More pis! ... The LT needs to join other cosmics to erase Galactus? LOL!

On top of that,
the LT and the other cosmics were concentrating their power into a single point,
Reed used his canon that took him 20 years to build,
and shot directly into the concentration of power,
thus forcing the LT's and cosmics' own power to backfire on them.

Silly pis, but it is Reed after all,
yea, the guy who's mind was used to re-create the Marvel Universe by the Alien Entity.
Originally posted by fangirl101

Or when protege somehow managed to beat out his omnicience
and defy his judgement.
Protege never defied any judgement, so don't know where you got that from,
Protege copied the LT's power, because that's the ability TOAA gave Protege,
Protege left unchecked would've definitely risen above the LT,
but then ...

.... Scathan and his Celestial muzzle came in for the pwn. dur

Greatest cosmological pis of all time, but it is canon.

Imo, based on several subtle allusions,
Scathan was an un-official agent of TOAA,
that's the only explanation that gives it some merit.

starlock
Parallax wins....unless LT gets involved...or an artifact like object i.e .....the Infinity Gauntlet, and of course the HOTU

Indestructible
Originally posted by starlock
Parallax wins....unless LT gets involved...or an artifact like object i.e .....the Infinity Gauntlet, and of course the HOTU
R you serious and if so Why So Serious?????

starlock
Originally posted by Indestructible
R you serious and if so Why So Serious?????

Well the new batman movie was lame, so i want my 3 hrs back....thats why so serious wink

fangirl101
Originally posted by Mr Master
Oh, you mean in that 1982 'What if' pis?

Yea,
the LT's ultimate judgement
is turning the local Sun Nova to indirectly attack his opponent LOL!
which Mistress Death helped Korvac survive.

Yet instead with a gesture,
he can disconnect that entire Universe from the Multiverse
and place it withIN an impenetrable barrier, where mikey was trapped?

dontgetit

LT and Korvac never battled directly,
LT and Korvac never even saw each other.

laughing

More pis! ... The LT needs to join other cosmics to erase Galactus? LOL!

On top of that,
the LT and the other cosmics were concentrating their power into a single point,
Reed used his canon that took him 20 years to build,
and shot directly into the concentration of power,
thus forcing the LT's and cosmics' own power to backfire on them.

Silly pis, but it is Reed after all,
yea, the guy who's mind was used to re-create the Marvel Universe by the Alien Entity.

Protege never defied any judgement, so don't know where you got that from,
Protege copied the LT's power, because that's the ability TOAA gave Protege,
Protege left unchecked would've definitely risen above the LT,
but then ...

.... Scathan and his Celestial muzzle came in for the pwn. dur

Greatest cosmological pis of all time, but it is canon.

Imo, based on several subtle allusions,
Scathan was an un-official agent of TOAA,
that's the only explanation that gives it some merit.
Interesting how you can say the LT and Korvak never directly fought as some excuse to defend the Lt, but I can't say the same about the clasic Beyonder and the fact that he and the LT never actually fought. It seems you have an excuse for every low showing of the LT. Face it, he's not omnicient nor is he omnipotent. He has too many flaws. Like "discovering" the alternate marvel universe.

occultdestroyer
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
LT>Spectre. smile

By alot in fact. smile
Are you 100% sure?

Spectre has never FULLY utilized his omnipotence.
Its powers could very well be even above the LTs.
We don't know yet, the scope of its powers remain to be seen in the new host. We can't arrive in a conclusion as of yet.

occultdestroyer
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Mr Master
Originally posted by fangirl101

Interesting how you can say the LT
and Korvak never directly fought as some excuse to defend the Lt,
but I can't say the same about the clasic Beyonder
and the fact that he and the LT never actually fought.
On Panel the LT was literally terrified of the Beyonder: (big, huge, megaultra difference)

................................................................................................


Who's the ONLY being to ever make the LT tremble in fear?

Beyonder, that's who.

The Living Tribunal and the hierarchy literally,
were quaking in their pants at the thought of what Beyonder would do,
if Eternity failed,
when Eternity actually mustered some courage to attempt an attack:

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8900/beto2za1.th.jpg

"The Mighty of the MULTIVERSE (the LT included) TREMBLE"

................................................................................................


On Panel, the LT attacked Korvac indirectly by making the local Sun go Nova,
that's idiotic,
especially when immediately afterwards
LT demonstrates, with a gesture,
the power to rip Korvac's entire Universe from the Multiverse,
then LT proceeds to place said entire Universe in an impenetrable barrier.

Seriously, all bias aside, does that make any sense to you?

Silly 'What ifs' ... glare

Originally posted by fangirl101

It seems you have an excuse for every low showing of the LT.
It seems you should do some research
before posting LT's supposed low showings.

btw. LT pwning himself with Reed's canon isn't even canon,
it's not mentioned in LT's bio, or in the MC2 Universe bio either.

Everything LT has ever done, is mentioned in his bio, but that.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Face it, he's not omnicient nor is he omnipotent.
He has too many flaws.
Like "discovering" the alternate marvel universe.
Love how out of nowhere you're now trying to demean Beyonder,
in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with classic B,
this is off-topic, and yes, I think we've all accepted the fact,
that you and your alter ego know more about the Beyonder
than Jim Shooter (writer/creator) of Beyonder/Secret Wars I-II,
more than on panel depictions in Marvel comics concerning the Beyonder,
and more than official Marvel Handbooks
that cement classic Beyonder as the most powerful being ever to exist in the Marvel Universe.

Yes, luckily for us,
you're here to clear up all the lies perpetrated by the Marvel company.

Galan007
Originally posted by Priest
To bad LT=/=Spectre who was > parallax.

spiderman1196
Originally posted by Galan007
who was > parallax.
Hal Jordan after he absorbed all of the power from the ring

Galan007
Originally posted by spiderman1196
Hal Jordan after he absorbed all of the power from the ring i know who parallax is srsly. i was merely saying that since spectre was more powerful than parallax - LT would also be more powerful . smile

Mr Master
Originally posted by Galan007

who was > parallax.
G,
I'll only accept info from reliable sources like yourself
and a few others concerning DC.

What exactly is it that Parallax did?

Where do you place Parallaxin the DC hierarchy?
(a mini list from top (Michael) to where Parallax lands would nice)

Didn't say Presence/GEB cause that's a given.

Takion
Originally posted by Mr Master
On Panel the LT was literally terrified of the Beyonder: (big, huge, megaultra difference)

................................................................................................


Who's the ONLY being to ever make the LT tremble in fear?

Beyonder, that's who.

The Living Tribunal and the hierarchy literally,
were quaking in their pants at the thought of what Beyonder would do,
if Eternity failed,
when Eternity actually mustered some courage to attempt an attack:

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8900/beto2za1.th.jpg

"The Mighty of the MULTIVERSE (the LT included) TREMBLE"

................................................................................................


On Panel, the LT attacked Korvac indirectly by making the local Sun go Nova,
that's idiotic,
especially when immediately afterwards
LT demonstrates, with a gesture,
the power to rip Korvac's entire Universe from the Multiverse,
then LT proceeds to place said entire Universe in an impenetrable barrier.

Seriously, all bias aside, does that make any sense to you?

Silly 'What ifs' ... glare


It seems you should do some research
before posting LT's supposed low showings.

btw. LT pwning himself with Reed's canon isn't even canon,
it's not mentioned in LT's bio, or in the MC2 Universe bio either.

Everything LT has ever done, is mentioned in his bio, but that.


Love how out of nowhere you're now trying to demean Beyonder,
in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with classic B,
this is off-topic, and yes, I think we've all accepted the fact,
that you and your alter ego know more about the Beyonder
than Jim Shooter (writer/creator) of Beyonder/Secret Wars I-II,
more than on panel depictions in Marvel comics concerning the Beyonder,
and more than official Marvel Handbooks
that cement classic Beyonder as the most powerful being ever to exist in the Marvel Universe.

Yes, luckily for us,
you're here to clear up all the lies perpetrated by the Marvel company.
Stops at The Phoneix Force whistling1

Mr Master
Originally posted by Takion

Stops at The Phoneix Force
Wow, so if the Phoenix Force can stop Parallax,
then he has zero chance of even taking out just Eternity.

Thanx T.

But, I also wanna see Galan's opinion of this Parallax.

Takion
Originally posted by Mr Master
Wow, so if the Phoenix Forcer can stop Parallax,
then he has zero chance of even taking out just Eternity.

Thanx T.

But, I also wanna see Galan's opinion of this Parallax.
K Im confused I dont know if you were joking, or if you knew I was joking err my mind.

None the less I feel ass raped for some reason :O

Erik-Lensherr
Originally posted by Takion
None the less I feel ass raped for some reason

no expression

Mr Master
Originally posted by Takion

K Im confused I dont know if you were joking,
or if you knew I was joking err my mind.
Oh, my bad, I thought you were serious. sad
Originally posted by Takion

None the less I feel ass raped for some reason
Ouch ... there's only peace and harmony here for true debaters,
so feel the love good friend. smile

Takion
Originally posted by Mr Master
Oh, my bad, I thought you were serious. sad

Ouch ... there's only peace and harmony here for true debaters,
so feel the love good friend. smile
*Watches from the distance*

Harbinger
I can't answer the second part of Mr. M's question, but IIRC, Parallax destroyed and recreated the DC universe during the events of Zero Hour.

Galan007
Originally posted by Mr Master
G,
I'll only accept info from reliable sources like yourself
and a few others concerning DC.

What exactly is it that Parallax did?

Where do you place Parallaxin the DC hierarchy?
(a mini list from top (Michael) to where Parallax lands would nice)

Didn't say Presence/GEB cause that's a given. parallax owned the time trapper and zh-extant . owning those two alone, is an uber display of power.

he then wiped out all remaining timelines , by destroying dc's prime universe . after this, parallax began constructing a new creation in the void of the old one. in the midst of this construction process, he was simultaneously battling the collective heroes from dc, and spectre himself. though he eventually lost to spectre his feats were very impressive. top 10-20 in a hierarchy, more than likely.

Utrigita
Parallax is powerful no doubt about it, but him against the Whole Marvel Universe included all cosmic I do not see him winning.

Galan007
Originally posted by Utrigita
Parallax is powerful no doubt about it, but him against the Whole Marvel Universe included all cosmic I do not see him winning. he'd fair well, but certainly wouldn't beat everyone.

guy222
thumb up

Erik-Lensherr
Originally posted by Galan007
top 10-20 in a hierarchy, more than likely.

Do you have a hierarchy in mind with the strongest beings from DC, or did you just aproximate ?

Originally posted by Galan007
he'd fair well, but certainly wouldn't beat everyone.

Who would you say is the most powerfull being he can beat from Marvel ?

Galan007
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Do you have a hierarchy in mind with the strongest beings from DC, or did you just aproximate ?

Who would you say is the most powerfull being he can beat from Marvel ? it's an approximation, based on the list i've been working on for the last..... way too long ( eek! )

parallax seems to be on par with a character like vangaard was in the process of constructing a new universe], imo.

Erik-Lensherr
Originally posted by Galan007
it's an approximation, based on the list i've been working on for the last..... way too long ( eek! )

That would be interesting to see. smile

Originally posted by Galan007
parallax seems to be on par with a character like vangaard was in the process of constructing a new universe], imo.

I've just skimmed through some of the info Mr Master posted on him, since I wasn't familiar to him at all, and he doesn't seem to be more than a Universal power. Capable of supposdley destroying any Universe in the Omniverse but, still, a Universal power. Is there something I missed ? He kind of reminds me of the Adjudicator. What issues did he appear in ?

I also found something interesting while looking at the scans. Apparently, the Marvel Universe has a certain amount of 'energy', and with each alternate Universe being created, more and more of that energy is being 'used' sort to speak, which is why Vangaard destroys the Universes. So practically, the Marvel Universe is the energy of a Universe, only divided between multipled Universes. It is also a logical thing, which, as seen in some scans posted not so long ago on this board, applies to the DC Universe aswell (IIRC). It was something about the DC Multiverse being created, and each Universes being 'inferior' to the original, single Universe, or something of that sort. Just a thought, and it is based mostly on just fast-reading some scans, so it might not be accurate, thus why I must read the issues for myself.

Galan007
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
That would be interesting to see. smile it's done for the most part. i'm sure there's still room for improvment , but it's a very fair list, based on each character's feats/powerset.

of course i ranked some characters based on what their powers are rumored, and/or theorized to be .

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I've just skimmed through some of the info Mr Master posted on him, since I wasn't familiar to him at all, and he doesn't seem to be more than a Universal power. Capable of supposdley destroying any Universe in the Omniverse but, still, a Universal power. Is there something I missed ? He kind of reminds me of the Adjudicator. What issues did he appear in ?

I also found something interesting while looking at the scans. Apparently, the Marvel Universe has a certain amount of 'energy', and with each alternate Universe being created, more and more of that energy is being 'used' sort to speak, which is why Vangaard destroys the Universes. So practically, the Marvel Universe is the energy of a Universe, only divided between multipled Universes. It is also a logical thing, which, as seen in some scans posted not so long ago on this board, applies to the DC Universe aswell (IIRC). It was something about the DC Multiverse being created, and each Universes being 'inferior' to the original, single Universe, or something of that sort. Just a thought, and it is based mostly on just fast-reading some scans, so it might not be accurate, thus why I must read the issues for myself. i see your point, but in the end, parallax was also a universal power. yes he destroyed a complete universe but it was still a universe nonetheless. that being said, it would take a character capable of complete universal destruction/creation to equal parallax imo.

and vangaard appeared in "fantastic force" #11-12.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Galan007

parallax owned the time trapper and zh-extant . owning those two alone, is an uber display of power.

he then wiped out all remaining timelines , by destroying dc's prime universe . after this, parallax began constructing a new creation in the void of the old one. in the midst of this construction process, he was simultaneously battling the collective heroes from dc, and spectre himself. though he eventually lost to spectre his feats were very impressive. top 10-20 in a hierarchy, more than likely.
Thanx G, he is impressive thumb up

Just one thing,
when you say he erased the remaining Timelines by destroying the DC Prime Universe,
do you mean,
the destruction of the other UniverseS
was an inadvertent result of wiping out the Prime Reality?

Sorta like what happens when one erases 616 in Marvel?


I think I have that scene, is this it?

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5237/parallaxdh1.th.png

"Parallax ATTEMPTED to create new World's and Timelines,
fool that he was UNABLE to Control the forces he'd unleashed,
entire Timelines began to collapse,
as alternate Timelines seeped in and out of existence"

Galan007
Originally posted by Mr Master
do you mean,
the destruction of the other UniverseS
was an inadvertent result of wiping out the Prime Reality?

Sorta like what happens when one erases 616 in Marvel? yes. granted, parallax had extant wiping out individual timelines so that his own actions could go 'unseen'. but when he erased the main universe, it created a chain reaction, so to speak, which erased all remaining timelines. a complete 'universal' feat.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

I've just skimmed through some of the info Mr Master posted on him, since I wasn't familiar to him at all,
and he doesn't seem to be more than a Universal power.
Capable of supposdley destroying any Universe in the Omniverse
but, still, a Universal power. Is there something I missed ?
Actually, Vanguaard seems to exist across multiple Realities simultaneously,
which probably explains why he can erase Timelines back to back effortlessly:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/555271_Van1.jpg

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/555272_Van2.jpg

Although it's true, he takes out one Universe at a time,
we can't constrict him to just a Universal power because of this,
remember, he exists with a cosmic purpose,
his job is to erase redundant Timelines,
and since Timelies are diverging at every instant, he has his hands full,
apparently even with his simultaneous multiple manifestations,
so he can't erase the Multiverse entire, even he had the power to do it,
not saying he could at all, I really can't say for sure, but we know even if he could,
he can't since he acts on protocol.

Still though,
he proved he could withstand Time & Space being obliterated in his face,
without giving him pause,
also,
he was going to own Psi-Lord, who couldn't faze him,
and Psi-Lord = Universal power.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

I also found something interesting while looking at the scans. Apparently, the Marvel Universe has a certain amount of 'energy', and with each alternate Universe being created, more and more of that energy is being 'used' sort to speak, which is why Vangaard destroys the Universes. So practically, the Marvel Universe is the energy of a Universe, only divided between multipled Universes.
While that's true,
that part of the deal pertains only to one Multiverse:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/555273_Van3.jpg

Not the Omniverse entire,
which encompasses as you know an infinite amount of MultiverseS.

Although, the Prime Multiverse (616 in fact) supports the Omniverse,
so you may be right anyway Erik. smile



btw, Just for info's sake,
Vanguaard has erased at-least 1,000,000 Timelines:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/555335_Van4.jpg
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

It is also a logical thing, which, as seen in some scans posted not so long ago on this board, applies to the DC Universe aswell (IIRC). It was something about the DC Multiverse being created, and each Universes being 'inferior' to the original, single Universe, or something of that sort. Just a thought, and it is based mostly on just fast-reading some scans, so it might not be accurate, thus why I must read the issues for myself.
That sounds interesting, it does resemble Marvel,
because 616 contains the infinite power of the prime Multiverse,
and evidently,
it's from withIN 616
that the natural creation energy of all Marvel Timelines & Alternate Realities is born.

Of course, there are other Universes,
that are created by self-sufficient beings of ample power.

But the vast majority of Marvel stems from 616.

=====================================


Galan once gave an analogy that defines this very subject perfectly:

=====================================


"The 616 Universe is like a boundless Ocean....
An Ocean which stems into a boundless amount of lakes....
Lakes which stem into a boundless amount of diverging rivers.....
Rivers which stem into a boundless amount of diverging streams,
and a boundless amount of diverging tributaries after those....
And so on and so forth, infinitely.....

All of these lakes, rivers, streams, tributaries, etc,
are what make up the entire Marvel Omniverse.

Dry up one of those diverging streams or tributaries,
and you just lose that one body of water, as it is basically it's own entity...


However,

Dry up the original Ocean,
and you dry up everything stemming from it, (the Marvel Omniverse),
as all is fed by, and stems from, that one initial Ocean."



Galan gets the credit for this. thumb up

Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by fangirl101
Exactly. Nor with Korvak or Reed Richards.

But the LT didn't have an issue with Protege, he had Scathan. The situation was handled rather quickly.

GalacticStorm
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr




I've just skimmed through some of the info Mr Master posted on him, since I wasn't familiar to him at all, and he doesn't seem to be more than a Universal power. Capable of supposdley destroying any Universe in the Omniverse but, still, a Universal power. Is there something I missed ? He kind of reminds me of the Adjudicator. What issues did he appear in ?


You're quite right. Some people here make the mistake of confusing power with role.

Vangaard may operate over an area greater than the universal, however he has never, ever demonstrated himself to be anything other than a universal power.

Destroying universes not simultaneously, but one after the other does not make you anything but universal. smile

Doctor-Alvis
I've yearned for the day where powered is measured in universes destroyed and timelines erased. And that day has come.

GalacticStorm
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I've yearned for the day where powered is measured in universes destroyed and timelines erased. And that day has come.

I'm happy for you smile

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