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No Prep.

Thanos wins.

Hellz no. After what he did to Uatu and Thor, Thanos doesn't have a chance.

....Im going back to the Superman thread, this may get ugly.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hellz no. After what he did to Uatu and Thor, Thanos doesn't have a chance. Both lack Thanos like feats. Thanos wins this easily imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Both lack Thanos like feats. Thanos wins this easily imo.
Thanos > everyone in MU combined?

Thanos is more powerful than the Watcher?

Rulk

thanos.
rulk couldnt put down abom or wendigo with the aid of a weapon.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Thanos is more powerful than the Watcher?
According to Quanchi, yes.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/MAZZ0Murder/Crazyawesome.gif

Originally posted by Ha-Son
Thanos > everyone in MU combined? Not at all.

However imo Thanos>Rulk.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Thanos is more powerful than the Watcher? What feats does this Watcher have that would make you think otherwise?

To be fair to Uatu

He did defeat Aron the Rogue Watcher. Aron previously defeated Owen Reece

Rulk teabag ftw.

without prep, Thanos still has Power Cosmic... could he drain Red like Surfer drains Hulk?

what about teleportation as an offensive weapon (bfr Red)?

otherwise, I don't think Thanos survives... Red is just too powerful and too vicious and too smart to give Thanos pause to come up with a plan.

thanos gets knocked the **** out.

Red Hulk.

Red Hulk omfgwtfpwns Thanos

Rulk smash.

Thanos wishes he was Rulk ....the only mistake is that he is even uglier, and is the wrong color.

Rulk wins .....he always wins ....Loeb made me say that ....

Also, to use the logic Quanchi utilized against Darkseid, Thanos has only defeated top tier characters, while Rulk has defeated characters above top tier.

Yup ...try to figure that sucker out!

I was going to say Thanos but Leob is standing here behind me with a Colt .45 stuck in my ear...He has made me see the error of my ways
Rhulk for the win....

What's this a fanboys wet dream?

Originally posted by Ha-Son
According to Quanchi, yes.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/MAZZ0Murder/Crazyawesome.gif

That avatar is hypnotizing.

Rulk.

red hulk nd if the rumors r true that he is ares than easily

Who ever said the rumor he's Ares? and Ares is not that powerful......

but gamma/loeb ares...

Red Hulk win via the biggest PIS aura ever, seconded only to Squirrel Girl. That mean a lot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Both lack Thanos like feats. Thanos wins this easily imo. WTF!?

Originally posted by spetznaz
Thanos wishes he was Rulk ....the only mistake is that he is even uglier, and is the wrong color.

Rulk wins .....he always wins ....Loeb made me say that ....

Also, to use the logic Quanchi utilized against Darkseid, Thanos has only defeated top tier characters, while Rulk has defeated characters above top tier.

Yup ...try to figure that sucker out! Ok let me correct you here.

Now Thanos has defeated Thor with the power gem who well beyond top tier at that point friend. He was crushing top tiers in packs and the only thing this team could come up with is bfr to Thanos.

Thanos took care of him easily when he was bored with their conflict.


Thanos has also defeated the Maker who is more than a top tier.

So that logic does not apply here friend as I just pointed out Thanos rapes top tiers and beats characters well beyond that.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Thanos is more powerful than the Watcher?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
WTF!? Thanos has better feats than the watcher and has never been beaten down on panel in the same manner the Watcher did by the Rulk.

To be somewhat fair, Red Hulk attacked Uatu who cannot intervene in things and then he put no defense against him. When he beat Thor he did so having Thor fighting like an idiot, if he did like that against say, Curse, the result would be the same. So Red Hulk has yet to prove that he can beat Thanos, although he seems to be above top tier.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hellz no. After what he did to Uatu and Thor, Thanos doesn't have a chance.

What did he do?

Originally posted by SouthSpawn
What did he do?
He kicked their arses.

To be honest...Uatu I doubt could attack Rulk since its not his job.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has better feats than the watcher and has never been beaten down on panel in the same manner the Watcher did by the Rulk.

Not without a CC or the InfinityGauntlet he doesn't.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4502/fantasticfour1321ok9.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8762/talesofsuspense05723yi4.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9611/talesofsuspense05724we4.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8375/quasar16036ma6.jpg

Or how about taking out the MoleculeMan
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3289/fantasticfourv137315rr6.jpg


Seriously, where do you draw these sorts of conclusions from?

It's easy ,he is an idiot.......uhuh

Originally posted by quanchi112
Both lack Thanos like feats. Thanos wins this easily imo.




Uatu may not have a lot of feats to his credit, but the ones he does have are easily on Thanos's level...


The Watcher(as an observer) survives a battle that destroys whole solar systems...
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9881/theinfinityguantlet0508vk7.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9533/theinfinityguantlet0509lf8.jpg

Uatu vs Aaron in a battle that's waged "across the infinite rivers of reality" and ends with Uatu converting Aaron into pure living energy to replenish the One...
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9233/f440034gy0.jpg
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/545/f440035rd5.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3566/f440036iq3.jpg

Originally posted by Estacado
It's easy ,he is an idiot.......uhuh

Anyway we haven't seen how Rulk handles getting blasted by someone on Thanos' level so we can't say for sure how this would end. The way Loeb is writing him I'm sure Thanos would get steamrolled just like everybody else though.

The way Loeb is writing him he would break PR Beyonder's nose.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has better feats than the watcher and has never been beaten down on panel in the same manner the Watcher did by the Rulk.
I...can't...believe you just said Thanos has better feats than a Watcher.

rulk stomps

Thanos should win unless Loeb is writing it.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Thanos should win unless Loeb is writing it.

You realize Loeb is the sole existing authority of RedHulk's power levels, right?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You realize Loeb is the sole existing authority of RedHulk's power levels, right?

And we've seen the consequences ..

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You realize Loeb is the sole existing authority of RedHulk's power levels, right?

Yep, I am, hence the ridiculousness of Rulk's power levels.

Originally posted by Air Legend
I...can't...believe you just said Thanos has better feats than a Watcher. Prove me wrong then.

I cant believe you would say otherwise. I really cant. I await these impressive feats.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove me wrong then.

I cant believe you would say otherwise. I really cant. I await these impressive feats.

Look at the last page.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not without a CC or the InfinityGauntlet he doesn't.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4502/fantasticfour1321ok9.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8762/talesofsuspense05723yi4.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9611/talesofsuspense05724we4.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8375/quasar16036ma6.jpg

Or how about taking out the MoleculeMan
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3289/fantasticfourv137315rr6.jpg


Seriously, where do you draw these sorts of conclusions from? When did the Watcher use any of these abilities against Rulk?
Did he try these methods on the Rulk? Do you think Loeb even cares? Rulk defeated him easily.

Thanos has defeated Thor with the power gem. He had no limits. Thanos also defeated the Maker who had infinite power backing him up. Now it seems to me the watcher just kinda let him beat him down. When has Thanos lost to physical might in a fair fight before on panel?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Look at the last page. Just got to it. Dont worry I respond to all who oppose Quan's will.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did the Watcher use any of these abilities against Rulk?
Did he try these methods on the Rulk? Do you think Loeb even cares? Rulk defeated him easily.

Thanos has defeated Thor with the power gem. He had no limits. Thanos also defeated the Maker who had infinite power backing him up. Now it seems to me the watcher just kinda let him beat him down. When has Thanos lost to physical might in a fair fight before on panel?

How is it possible for you to be so dense and oblivious? Does it take conscious effort?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How is it possible for you to be so dense and oblivious? Does it take conscious effort? Again what abilities did the Watcher use against the Rulk? I mean the Rulk can only attack you physically right? Yet the watcher had no answer. Its like pulling precrisis Seid feats and using them as the standard imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove me wrong then.

I cant believe you would say otherwise. I really cant. I await these impressive feats.

Have a look in the Watchers Respect thread

Also Kubik stated that the watchers are a part of the greater powers that is above him, a single watcher contained a universe within him, and the high tribunal of the watchers brought a entire Universe back from destruction, I have no idea how many watchers there are in the High Tribunal is, but a single watcher could contain it so...

Please a single feat from a normal Thanos that trumps that

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again what abilities did the Watcher use against the Rulk? I mean the Rulk can only attack you physically right? Yet the watcher had no answer. Its like pulling precrisis Seid feats and using them as the standard imo.



Changing the topic to make your self seem less stupid = failure.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Changing the topic to make your self seem less stupid = failure. I gave you an example to get through to you.

Not answering or responding to me while I have already responded to every feat you posted =failure in my book.

Again what abilities did the watcher use against Rulk?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again what abilities did the watcher use against Rulk?

Doesn't matter. That wasn't the question being addressed. Nice try though, you're clearly desperate.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Have a look in the Watchers Respect thread

Also Kubik stated that the watchers are a part of the greater powers that is above him, a single watcher contained a universe within him, and the high tribunal of the watchers brought a entire Universe back from destruction, I have no idea how many watchers there are in the High Tribunal is, but a single watcher could contain it so...

Please a single feat from a normal Thanos that trumps that Again Thanos defeated the Maker who is a being of infinite power.

So Rulk defeated a Watcher with just a physical beatdown. I mean is Rulk universal level in your opinion?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Thanos defeated the Maker who is a being of infinite power.

Not by overpowering it

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Doesn't matter. That wasn't the question being addressed. Nice try though, you're clearly desperate. Now I respond to every point you make. You respond back not addressing or answering any of my questions. Rulk beat down the watcher easily. I dont want to make this a Watcher vs Thanos debate but if Rulk coul dbeat down the wacther with his fists why couldnt Thanos?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not by overpowering it Thanos hurt her physically and toyed with her and then raped her mind. No one else hurt her physically on panel and traded blasts with her. Thanos easily showed she was no match.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I gave you an example to get through to you.

Not answering or responding to me while I have already responded to every feat you posted =failure in my book.

Again what abilities did the watcher use against Rulk?


Why do people seem to think battles in comic books equals characters just using everything they have at their disposal? I'm sure thanos has had fights where he didn't use everything you've seen him use in the past(not a question, but a fact) that could end a fight in an instant.

Heck based on abilities alone the watcher is more powerful than Thanos. Seeing as how your turning it into a versus battle. The simple fact that the watcher has control over space and time without need for any tech is more than enough.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Thanos defeated the Maker who is a being of infinite power.

So Rulk defeated a Watcher with just a physical beatdown. I mean is Rulk universal level in your opinion?

The Maker that

1. Is below the watchers.

2. Had limited herself in her mortal form.

3. point?

Did I say that? No, you asked for feats concerning the watchers vs Thanos I provided them, that The Watcher for some unknown reason choosed not to remove Rulk from his presence with the smallest amount of mental Energy I will choose to look at as PIS unless the Watcher was there to observe ore give Rulk a message, then it would not be in Uatu's character to do anything towards Rulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Now I respond to every point you make. You respond back not addressing or answering any of my questions. Rulk beat down the watcher easily. I dont want to make this a Watcher vs Thanos debate but if Rulk coul dbeat down the wacther with his fists why couldnt Thanos?



Still not talking about what I addressed. You're questions are meaninglessly off topic. If you'd like I can show you the posts. In fact I'll do so right now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has better feats than the watcher and has never been beaten down on panel in the same manner the Watcher did by the Rulk.

I then addressed Thanos feats vs Watcher feats in this post:

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not without a CC or the InfinityGauntlet he doesn't.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4502/fantasticfour1321ok9.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8762/talesofsuspense05723yi4.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9611/talesofsuspense05724we4.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8375/quasar16036ma6.jpg

Or how about taking out the MoleculeMan
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3289/fantasticfourv137315rr6.jpg


Seriously, where do you draw these sorts of conclusions from?

You then attempted to dodge by switching back to an argument about RedHulk who is irrelevant to that discussion.

Originally posted by razor4life
Why do people seem to think battles in comic books equals characters just using everything they have at their disposal? I'm sure thanos has had fights where he didn't use everything you've seen him use in the past(not a question, but a fact) that could end a fight in an instant.

Heck based on abilities alone the watcher is more powerful than Thanos. Seeing as how your turning it into a versus battle. The simple fact that the watcher has control over space and time without need for any tech is more than enough. regardless its a moot point.

People are using Rulk's victory over the watcher as proof that he can defeat Thanos. He showed off none of these abilities whatsoever in his loss to Rulk.

Thanos has transmuted and defeated characters with limitless power on two two occasions. He has never been beaten down on panel as easily as the Rulk has. When has he been beaten down anyways physically?

Rulk wins.....with ease.

Originally posted by Utrigita
The Maker that

1. Is below the watchers.

2. Had limited herself in her mortal form.

3. point?

Did I say that? No, you asked for feats concerning the watchers vs Thanos I provided them, that The Watcher for some unknown reason choosed not to remove Rulk from his presence with the smallest amount of mental Energy I will choose to look at as PIS unless the Watcher was there to observe ore give Rulk a message, then it would not be in Uatu's character to do anything towards Rulk. Prove that the Maker has less power than a watcher?

Sure it meant he could hurt her body but it didnt mean she had less power. Thanos successfully parried any and all of her attacks.

Rulk defeated the watcher easily. Thanos could have defeated thne watcher very much just as easily in the same manner as Rulk did regardless of who you think is more powerful.

I'm barely beginning to understand why people get pissed off at quanchi.

Originally posted by Badabing
Rulk wins.....with ease. By punching him? Are you serious?

Rulk wins while swearing, doing the fingers, shooting a gun and f*cking Ms Marvel. 'Cause he's badass. The swearing is @#$%@ed though, the fingers are blackboxed and the ****ing is off-panel. And there's certainly no smoking.

And yes. He punches him out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When has he been beaten down anyways physically? So because no one has ever beaten Thanos down, we must therefore assume no one can beat Thanos down? Fail logic, and I believe that would classify as a No-Limits fallacy.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Still not talking about what I addressed. You're questions are meaninglessly off topic. If you'd like I can show you the posts. In fact I'll do so right now.



I then addressed Thanos feats vs Watcher feats in this post:



You then attempted to dodge by switching back to an argument about RedHulk who is irrelevant to that discussion. Thanos does have better feats imo.

Thor with the power gem and the Maker. Most of your Watcher feats were against nobodys. Ok he beat MM. Good for him but he just lost to a guy who punches and brawls and thats it.

Again red Hulk is who this thread is about. You want a Watcher vs Thanos thread make it. Ill see you there.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
So because no one has ever beaten Thanos down, we must therefore assume no one can beat Thanos down? Fail logic, and I believe that would classify as a No-Limits fallacy. Who has Red Hulk beaten down that Thanos could not repeat?

Could Rulk beat Thor with the power gem? Could Rulk beat the Maker.

Every single feat Rulk has Thanos could indeed replicate if we substituted him there.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who has Red Hulk beaten down that Thanos could not repeat?

Could Rulk beat Thor with the power gem? Could Rulk beat the Maker.

Every single feat Rulk has Thanos could indeed replicate if we substituted him there. 1. Uatu.

2. Yes and yes.

3. Nah.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Uatu.

2. Yes and yes.

3. Nah. 1. What did Uatu do to defend himself that made this feat so impressive? With all his abilities I guess someone can still beat his head in eh?

2.How could Rulk beat him with the power gem? Thor with the power gem had more impressive feats?

3.Yes he could.

Rulk would just steal Mjolnir and beat him to death while skulling a bottle of Jack Daniels obviously.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. What did Uatu do to defend himself that made this feat so impressive? With all his abilities I guess someone can still beat his head in eh?

2.How could Rulk beat him with the power gem? Thor with the power gem had more impressive feats?

3.Yes he could. 1. Uatu was too weak for Rulk to defend him.

2. Rulk rips the PG away from Thor, takes Mjolnir and shoves it down his throat.

3. Nope.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Uatu was too weak for Rulk to defend him.

2. Rulk rips the PG away from Thor, takes Mjolnir and shoves it down his throat.

3. Nope. 1. So why wouldnt he be too weak for Thanos to beat him in that same exact situation.

2. No one else could do it. Hell,Strange couldnt even accomplish this with the Watch and the Surfer who has blazing speed.

3.Yes imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove that the Maker has less power than a watcher?

Sure it meant he could hurt her body but it didnt mean she had less power. Thanos successfully parried any and all of her attacks.

Rulk defeated the watcher easily. Thanos could have defeated thne watcher very much just as easily in the same manner as Rulk did regardless of who you think is more powerful.

First maker was less powerful then Kosmos.

Here Kubik talking with Kosmos about the greater powers in the universe, Allow me to present the watchers (granted the lowest of greater)

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360889/Fantastic_Four_Annual_23-46.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360890/Fantastic_Four_Annual_23-47.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360891/Fantastic_Four_Annual_23-48.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360892/Fantastic_Four_Annual_23-49.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360912/Fantastic_Four_Annual_23-51.jpg.html

Please note at link four "we have only grown sufficiantly transcendent to attract the attention of the watchers."

That's some comment when you look at beings that can warp a universe. Please also note number five, where Kubik is talking about how the greater powers tricked Kosmos, Thanos is mentioned correct, but please get no illusions, he is at the next page showed as a agent for Death, and he is placed there because well as you know he does indeed have a place with the evil ones, but the powerlevels between those listed are greatly different.

furthermore marvel appendix

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/kosmoscube.htm

Go down to Thanos#10(fb)

Please. "You have made yourself vulnerable taken mortal form why?"

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/?action=view&current=thanosvsmakerf22.jpg

Show me Rulk defeating him and the Watcher actively fight back because in this battle I doubt that the Watcher will just stand there also was Uatu knocked out? And under what circumstances was the Watcher there?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Now I respond to every point you make. You respond back not addressing or answering any of my questions. Rulk beat down the watcher easily. I dont want to make this a Watcher vs Thanos debate but if Rulk coul dbeat down the wacther with his fists why couldnt Thanos?


I'm not defending Rulk beating down Uatu because I think it's one of the stupidest ideas ever conceived, but if we take the feat as is then Rulk's punching power would be far beyond anything Thanos has ever shown.

The Watcher(as an observer) survives a battle that destroys whole solar systems...
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9881/theinfinityguantlet0508vk7.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9533/theinfinityguantlet0509lf8.jpg

Uatu withstands an attack that spans a thousand different planes of Reality...
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/545/f440035rd5.jpg


Those are significant feats of durability, and any who can put down a being with that kind of power with only a few punches would be far superior to most top tiers in the strength department.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. So why wouldnt he be too weak for Thanos to beat him in that same exact situation.

2. No one else could do it. Hell,Strange couldnt even accomplish this with the Watch and the Surfer who has blazing speed.

3.Yes imo. 1. Cause Rulk>>>>>>>>Thanos in all ways possible.

2. Rulk is a better magician than Strange, faster and a more powerful Cosmic than Silver Surfer, and more powerful than any in the Watch.

3. You are wrong. 131

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Cause Rulk>>>>>>>>Thanos in all ways possible.

2. Rulk is a better magician than Strange, faster and a more powerful Cosmic than Silver Surfer, and more powerful than any in the Watch.

3. You are wrong. 131
1. Again you have to prove it. I named two feats that Rulk couldnt replicate. Thanos woul dhave destroyed the Watcher in this same situation.

2.Are you serious? If so prove it with magical feats?

3. I am 100 percent correct imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. Again you have to prove it. I named two feats that Rulk couldnt replicate. Thanos woul dhave destroyed the Watcher in this same situation.

2.Are you serious? If so prove it with magical feats?

3. I am 100 percent correct imo. 1. Rulk can replicate all Thanos feats, IG and HOTI included.

2. He wielded Mjolnir first try and used it to fly and use lightning. 131

3. Well that makes you a frooble.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you serious?

Have you ever seen Rulk fail at casting a spell? Can you name a single time that magic has hurt him?

Where is the "sharp the pole for Loeb's head" thread?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Rulk can replicate all Thanos feats, IG and HOTI included.

2. He wielded Mjolnir first try and used it to fly and use lightning. 131

3. Well that makes you a frooble.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Have you ever seen Rulk fail at casting a spell? Can you name a single time that magic has hurt him? To claim that he is a better sorcerer that Strange he needs some magical feats. Thats just if you ask me personally.

Yeah, I was never serious, but seriously...He di fly with Mjolnir and use lightning.

Originally posted by quanchi112
To claim that he is a better sorcerer that Strange he needs some magical feats. Thats just if you ask me personally.

He used Mjolnir.

From that we know he can use magic. We have never seen magic fail to work for him. We have never seen magic work on him.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Yeah, I was never serious, but seriously...He di fly with Mjolnir and use lightning. I think I got that part.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He used Mjolnir.

From that we know he can use magic. We have never seen magic fail to work for him. We have never seen magic work on him. Oh goodie Quan logic.

RedHulk currently has the much higher jobber aura with his reality-warping powerset, so he gets my vote the way he is currently being written.

But I need to see what goes down if he faces some cosmics such as Surfer. Will Surfer be able to cut RedHulk off from his energy source like he did Savage Hulk? If Surfer can't, I dont see hardly anyone taking him down in a one on one.

It seems that people can use Leob's interpretation of Darksied against Superman and take it seriously, but when he touches thier precious Thor, then all of a sudden he's a tard. I think all loeb interpretations should be banned fromt he forum.

Originally posted by fangirl101
It seems that people can use Leob's interpretation of Darksied against Superman and take it seriously, but when he touches thier precious Thor, then all of a sudden he's a tard. I think all loeb interpretations should be banned fromt he forum.

Originally posted by fangirl101
It seems that people can use Leob's interpretation of Darksied against Superman and take it seriously, but when he touches thier precious Thor, then all of a sudden he's a tard. I think all loeb interpretations should be banned fromt he forum.

Co-****ing-signed.

At this point, that double standard is done. And Loeb's name should be code-word for trash, same as Rob Liefeld. Though Loeb has probably exceeded even him.......

Seriously. What the hell. No spoilers please. The fuggin comic hasn't even come out yet. Ya'll mind not spewing yor garbage about a comic I'd like to buy and read when it comes out next week?

Originally posted by quanchi112
By punching him? Are you serious? Rulk will just stare Thanos down and will win. Thanos will self bfr.

Originally posted by Badabing
Rulk will just stare Thanos down and Rulk will win.

Rulk wins by intimidation factor

Originally posted by horrorwolf
RedHulk currently has the much higher jobber aura with his reality-warping powerset, so he gets my vote the way he is currently being written.

But I need to see what goes down if he faces some cosmics such as Surfer. Will Surfer be able to cut RedHulk off from his energy source like he did Savage Hulk? If Surfer can't, I dont see hardly anyone taking him down in a one on one.
the Watcher is STILL the most impressive opponent Red's faced.
and to be honest, he just overwhelmed him with his casual savagery and his speed... Uatu wasn't prepared at all and couldn't defend against such power, couldn't react (mentally/psychologically) in time to get in the "fight".

a re-match might end with Uatu banishing Red or beating him senseless, imo. Cosmics should all be way too much for Hulk-type characters.

energy manipulation, mental and emotional manipulation on planetary scales ... matter manipulation, all that and a near infinite reserve of power to call upon (in the case of the Surfer, in the case of Uatu, Galactus, the Celestials ... it is as infinite as infinite gets (baring LT)).


imo, Surfer should win via gamma drain/dna manipulation, at the very least.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Seriously. What the hell. No spoilers please. The fuggin comic hasn't even come out yet. Ya'll mind not spewing yor garbage about a comic I'd like to buy and read when it comes out next week?

You want to waste your money on that garbage?

come on, it may be a bit OTT but it's insanely funny no?
that image of Red kicking Thor's hat away, a punt that cracks me up as much as the OG Hulk punting Monet.

Originally posted by janus77
come on, it may be a bit OTT but it's insanely funny no?
that image of Red kicking Thor's hat away, a punt that cracks me up as much as the OG Hulk punting Monet.

I wouldn't spend my money on it though.

I wouldn't care that Red Hulk was beating people that were out of his league if everything didn't seem random with no actually story and the dialog wasn't horrible.

But hey, that's just me.

oh the dialogue has been horrible in most of the issues so far, but the one where Banner was analysing Red's mind through a reconstruction was a good story imo.

and this one, I'm just interested because it is absolutely cracking me up... beating up Thor with his own mallet, punting his hat away, saying that he doesn't believe in God just before he punches Thor into space ... like or loathe Hulk, that stuff's just wickedly well written "bad assery".

I'm just enthused about it from a spectacle point of view... overall, it sucks to have everything Banner/Hulk has developed over 3-4 years wiped out in one go, but ... at least there's some laughs to be had

"well written badassery"

I wrote this:
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Rulk wins while swearing, doing the fingers, shooting a gun and f*cking Ms Marvel. 'Cause he's badass. The swearing is @#$%@ed though, the fingers are blackboxed and the ****ing is off-panel. And there's certainly no smoking.

And yes. He punches him out. as parody of Loeb's hackery and sophomoric "humor". But you'd actually think it was "cool" wouldn't you. Should probably add a whole bunch of pouches to his costume too. And more giant guns.

Surreal.

'Spose there's no accounting for taste...

Originally posted by Badabing
Rulk will just stare Thanos down and will win. Thanos will self bfr. Exactly..Just like Daniel Boone grinning a bear out of a tree Rhulk will glare at Thanos and then Thanos will realize the futility of it all and just roll over..

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
"well written badassery"

I wrote this:
as parody of Loeb's hackery and sophomoric "humor". But you'd actually think it was "cool" wouldn't you. Should probably add a whole bunch of pouches to his costume too. And more giant guns.

Surreal.

'Spose there's no accounting for taste...

How do we know Loeb isn't intentionally parodying the genera? The stories feel like they're styled after Deadpool. Also you have to love the Freudian symbolism of Rulk beating Thor with his own hammer.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How do we know Loeb isn't intentionally parodying the genera? The stories feel like they're styled after Deadpool. Also you have to love the Freudian symbolism of Rulk beating Thor with his own hammer.

Styled after Deadpool, are you serious?

In what way?

And I'm Loeb thought about the Freudian symbolism...

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Exactly..Just like Daniel Boone grinning a bear out of a tree Rhulk will glare at Thanos and then Thanos will realize the futility of it all and just roll over..

The man recently behind Onslaught Reborn, Ultimates III and feline-mutants and Sasquatch being Lupine Sapiens in Wolverine and killing Sabretooth out of logical continuity... was going for Freudian Symbolism...

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He used Mjolnir.

From that we know he can use magic. We have never seen magic fail to work for him. We have never seen magic work on him. Again Strange>>Thor in terms of magical abilities and magical feats save runes,etc.

Strange>>>>>Rulk in terms of magical abilities until proven otherwise.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The man recently behind Onslaught Reborn, Ultimates III and feline-mutants and Sasquatch being Lupine Sapiens in Wolverine and killing Sabretooth out of logical continuity... was going for Freudian Symbolism...

So was CarlBanks but whatcha gonna do?

And from what I hear UltimatesIII is . . . heh, I almost said "one long phallic symbol" but I stopped myself just in time . . . let's go with focused on exactly that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Strange>>Thor in terms of magical abilities and magical feats save runes,etc.

Strange>>>>>Rulk in terms of magical abilities until proven otherwise.

Thor isn't Rulk.

Originally posted by Utrigita
First maker was less powerful then Kosmos.

Here Kubik talking with Kosmos about the greater powers in the universe, Allow me to present the watchers (granted the lowest of greater)

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360889/Fantastic_Four_Annual_23-46.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360890/Fantastic_Four_Annual_23-47.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360891/Fantastic_Four_Annual_23-48.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360892/Fantastic_Four_Annual_23-49.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360912/Fantastic_Four_Annual_23-51.jpg.html

Please note at link four "we have only grown sufficiantly transcendent to attract the attention of the watchers."

That's some comment when you look at beings that can warp a universe. Please also note number five, where Kubik is talking about how the greater powers tricked Kosmos, Thanos is mentioned correct, but please get no illusions, he is at the next page showed as a agent for Death, and he is placed there because well as you know he does indeed have a place with the evil ones, but the powerlevels between those listed are greatly different.

furthermore marvel appendix

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/kosmoscube.htm

Go down to Thanos#10(fb)

Please. "You have made yourself vulnerable taken mortal form why?"

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/?action=view&current=thanosvsmakerf22.jpg

Show me Rulk defeating him and the Watcher actively fight back because in this battle I doubt that the Watcher will just stand there also was Uatu knocked out? And under what circumstances was the Watcher there? Ok at least a few of you on here actually debate and present evidence to prove your points.

The first set of scans show that they indeed are powerful. I by no means intended for anyone to think I thought lowly of them. But this all started when were fooled by the Rulk's victory over one of them. I know that the watcher didnt fight to the best of his abilities and I know that loeb wrote it. That being said its a showing that shows they are susceptible to a physical beatdown. Now in these scans Kubik refers to he and Kosmos as inferior or insignificant beings to themselves. Ok fine Ill accept that the Maker/Kosmos is less than a Watcher. Thanos proved that the Maker was inferior to he as well in combat.

But that being said I still hold the opinion that Odin or Tyrant could defeat a Watcher and also Thanos. As long as Thanos sruvives the Watchers assault and he will survive with his durability he can still beat down a Watcher. This Rulk showing indicates that Uatu doesnt have a respectable damage soak imo.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Thor isn't Rulk. I know that.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Oh goodie Quan logic. My logic is sound his isnt imo.

Originally posted by fangirl101
It seems that people can use Leob's interpretation of Darksied against Superman and take it seriously, but when he touches thier precious Thor, then all of a sudden he's a tard. I think all loeb interpretations should be banned fromt he forum. Superman needed help against Darkseid. He didnt wrote apokolips now. I usually dont even bring up the source wall feat as he had WW's help. Apokolips now was a fair fight and wasnt written by loeb.Originally posted by Badabing
Rulk will just stare Thanos down and will win. Thanos will self bfr. Incorrect. Thanos is too much man for Rulk. Just because Rulk beat on a Watcher who vows to not interfere everyone is up in arms. LOL.

Originally posted by quanchi112
My logic is sound his isnt imo.

He was pointing at that I was using the No-Limits fallacy that you constantly constantly apply to your favorite characters in order to mock you and demonstrate why it is poor logic.

Odin actually can't beat a Watcher.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Incorrect. Thanos is too much man for Rulk. Just because Rulk beat on a Watcher who vows to not interfere everyone is up in arms. LOL.

No one is too much of a man for Rulk. He walks in and makes Thanos beg for mercy but then breaks his arms anyway.

In case you haven't caught on, no one really believes these things about Rulk they're nothing more than humorous commentary on how the character is written.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm not defending Rulk beating down Uatu because I think it's one of the stupidest ideas ever conceived, but if we take the feat as is then Rulk's punching power would be far beyond anything Thanos has ever shown.

The Watcher(as an observer) survives a battle that destroys whole solar systems...
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9881/theinfinityguantlet0508vk7.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9533/theinfinityguantlet0509lf8.jpg

Uatu withstands an attack that spans a thousand different planes of Reality...
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/545/f440035rd5.jpg


Those are significant feats of durability, and any who can put down a being with that kind of power with only a few punches would be far superior to most top tiers in the strength department. Ok he survived the ig onslaught. Impressive. Thanos has survived Odin's assault and he has destroyed galaxies before as well. I think we cant judge this personally on a collateral damage angle.

A Wacther can get beat down physically so if Thanos survives the wacther's onslaught he wins. I think he will survive it. His durability is insane.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He was pointing at that I was using the No-Limits fallacy that you constantly constantly apply to your favorite characters in order to mock you and demonstrate why it is poor logic. I understood it the first time. Your attempts at mockery amuse me. But its not that I claim that Thanos cant be beaten down physically he can just not by the likes of the watcheror Rulk. I cant imagine Uatu brawling with anyone either.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Odin actually can't beat a Watcher. I disagree.

Kubik admitted the Watchers are more powerful than him...And Kubik held a universe in the palm of his hand.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I understood it the first time. Your attempts at mockery amuse me. But its not that I claim that Thanos cant be beaten down physically he can just not by the likes of the watcheror Rulk. I cant imagine Uatu brawling with anyone either.

I wouldn't put it past him...
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2218/quasar15014eb6.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8006/quasar15015oh4.jpg

Originally posted by quanchi112
But its not that I claim that Thanos cant be beaten down physically

Actually you've made that exact claim in the past. But sure, whatever.


I'd also love to hear how Thanos resists Uatu dozens of BFR options.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Don't bet on it...
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2218/quasar15014eb6.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8006/quasar15015oh4.jpg Is that Uatu? Doesnt look like him at all.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Kubik admitted the Watchers are more powerful than him...And Kubik held a universe in the palm of his hand. When did I disagree with that. Again just because you create a universe it doesnt mean you defeat a character who cannot create an entire universe. Thats the point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I understood it the first time. Your attempts at mockery amuse me. But its not that I claim that Thanos cant be beaten down physically he can just not by the likes of the watcheror Rulk. I cant imagine Uatu brawling with anyone either. Dude don't lie...You have made that claim, among other No-Limits fallacies.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I disagree with that. Again just because you create a universe it doesnt mean you defeat a character who cannot create an entire universe. Thats the point. ...He didn't create a universe, he warped a universe and held it in his hand.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Actually you've made that exact claim in the past. But sure, whatever.


I'd also love to hear how Thanos resists Uatu dozens of BFR options. When did I say its impossible for Thanos to lose physically?

You seem to be either confused or lying.


How does he bfr Thanos when he can teleport right back.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
...He didn't create a universe, he warped a universe and held it in his hand. Regardless. That isnt the point. I think you missed it entirely.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is that Uatu? Doesnt look like him at all.
It's not. That was just to indicate that the Watcher code won't stop him from getting pysical if he's bloodlusted. Proof that Uatu himself is willing to get physical can be found here...

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3629/captainmarvel03717xl2.jpg

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Dude don't lie...You have made that claim, among other No-Limits fallacies. Find it. The power gem has no limits. Its been proven on panel.

Man they used to draw Uatu inconsistently...

Teleport back... from a million years in the past in a limbo void?

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I say its impossible for Thanos to lose physically?

You seem to be either confused or lying.



Originally posted by quanchi112
How does he bfr Thanos when he can teleport right back.

Instantly? Through time and space from another dimension? With his standard equipment?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Regardless. That isnt the point. I think you missed it entirely. Then what is the point smart guy?

I just brought up a friggin feat that trumps ALL of Odin's, and it was from a friggin weaker character than Uatu, yet Odin is stronger?

Originally posted by darthgoober
It's not. That was just to indicate that the Watcher code won't stop him from getting pysical if he's bloodlusted. Proof that Uatu himself is willing to get physical can be found here...

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3629/captainmarvel03717xl2.jpg Thats Uatu. He looks different. Anyways beating on Captain Marvel to me still doesnt suggest that he could manhandle Thanos physically. But it appears he can get physical.

Have any feats that suggest he could take Thanos physically?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Find it. The power gem has no limits. Its been proven on panel. Well off the top of my head you ask many times to show Thanos being physically beaten on-panel like that is some kind of evidence that he can't be, and to show evidence Thanos is subceptible to faster characters.

What is also humorous is that you constantly b!tch about how you want evidence of everything, yet provide no evidence yourself.

Also your double standards are amusing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thats Uatu. He looks different. Anyways beating on Captain Marvel to me still doesnt suggest that he could manhandle Thanos physically. But it appears he can get physical.

Have any feats that suggest he could take Thanos physically? He wouldn't need to.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Man they used to draw Uatu inconsistently...

Teleport back... from a million years in the past in a limbo void? I always am tickled pink when someone tries hard for a bfr win especially when they arent fighting anyone as invulnerable as Juggernaut. Is this the only way for the Watcher to win here by simply getting rid of Thanos because he cant beat him straight up.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos




Instantly? Through time and space from another dimension? With his standard equipment? http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/SilverSurfer035-14-1.jpg

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Then what is the point smart guy?

I just brought up a friggin feat that trumps ALL of Odin's, and it was from a friggin weaker character than Uatu, yet Odin is stronger? How does it prove that he can beat Odin? I mean Rulk beat a watcher easily physically while Odin would have routed him.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Well off the top of my head you ask many times to show Thanos being physically beaten on-panel like that is some kind of evidence that he can't be, and to show evidence Thanos is subceptible to faster characters.

What is also humorous is that you constantly b!tch about how you want evidence of everything, yet provide no evidence yourself.

Also your double standards are amusing. I never sai dhe couldnt but usually the characters people are claiming can do it to Thanos lack the feats to accomplish this.

Thanos durability is up there friend. To claim someone can physically own him you need awesome feats to prove it. I never said that it isnt possible.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
He wouldn't need to. My point is that Thanos would beat down Uatu easier than Rulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I always am tickled pink when someone tries hard for a bfr win especially when they arent fighting anyone as invulnerable as Juggernaut. Is this the only way for the Watcher to win here by simply getting rid of Thanos because he cant beat him straight up.Oh hooray for dodging. But god you're a waste of time.

Here's a play by play of how that exchange just went.

SC: A Watcher can just BFR Thanos in dozens of ways.
You: Impossible, Thanos can teleport.
Myself/SC: From another dimension, from limbo, from a million years in the past of the future?
You: Blah blah blah BFR sucks blah blah. Wah.

It's not a Watcher's only option anyway.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Oh hooray for dodging. But god you're a waste of time.

Here's a play by play of how that exchange just went.

SC: A Watcher can just BFR Thanos in dozens of ways.
You: Impossible, Thanos can teleport.
Myself/SC: From another dimension, from limbo, from a million years in the past of the future?
You: Blah blah blah BFR sucks blah blah. Wah.

It's not a Watcher's only option anyway. Thanos can teleport and manipulate time. This is even if the watcher goes for the time bfr but imo Thanos can manipulate and teleport through time anyways. Lunatik and Rulk have both shown the weak durability of Uatu.

He gets broken when Thanos gets his hands on him. Thanos durability>>>Uatu durability.

Or the Watcher teleports Wolverine there and uses him to slice Thanos up. Fun game.

Let's ignore the Watchers fighting over multiple planes of existence, and surviving universal destruction, simply converting beings into living energy. And can just will themselves back to life. That it apparently took a millenia for a Celestial to gather sufficient energy to kill the lead Watcher. Let's ignore that I don't think you've posted anything at all in this thread by way of proof bar one scan about regular teleportation whereas darthgoober and Symmetric Chaos have... and let's just say Thanos wins because he just does.

Or the Watcher just blows Thanos up.

They should fire that Loeb guy. Making a Watcher get hurt by physical contact. What in the mother f*ck.

Red Hulk is retarded Thanos wins Loeb is on shoomz

I still haven't been able to grasp exactly what or who this Red Hulk is, he/it may be half of what made up King Hulk, after all was it blood that was seen on his head after Thor bashed his face in, or was that energy? hmmm....... there's lot's of questions still left unanswered.

Anyone who read the end of World War Hulk should be able to imagine that when King Hulk went explosive a number of things could have happened. For one why did Rick Jones become a gamma mutate? Did Sue Richards forcefield fully protect him from gamma exposure? Was the Red Hulk somehow born from this gamma explosion? Loeb may not be as bad of a writer as many are calling him, he may have an angle... he is surely bringing in the dough from what I have read.

There is a great possibility that Red Hulk is more powerful than Thanos, but he may not be as well, only time will tell, but from the beating Thor received, he is on the level.

Exitar was goin to destroy the entire Watcher race. There are over 10 billion Watchers

The whole Delfalco crap with Sue 'defeating' Exitar was terrible

Back on subject...The way Loeb is writing Rulk is astounding

Oh...Rulk FTW

I don't know much of Red Hulk. Is he more powerful than Hulk (WWH)?
Or is that writers are showing the real potential of Hulk?
What is he? Who is he? Is he only some side of the Hulk?

Can someone give me all issues, where he appears?

Where did the Red Hulk own Uatu and Thor? If he did own Uatu, then Thanos shouldn't stand a chance with his own power against this Hulk.