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I have thought about this many times, and still don't understand why billionaires would be walking the streets at night, knowing it's terribly dangerous. I know it's important to the mythos but c'mon, they shouldn't be that stupid, right?

Apparently they were, but then again how else would you travel from an opera house to you car ?

They could have just hung out in the lobby and waited for the scary part to be over. I don't know what it is about Batman Begins, but I really hate Bruce's dad. No one is that perfect, that calm. He just bugged the hell out of me.

Begins had a pretty bad Wayne Death Scene...

If you take Napier out of the B89 death scene, it's a great scene that's true to the comics...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5aYC9Gk17Q

I do think they overdid it with Bruce's parents goodness in Begins

Bruce Wayne's Dad was a very down to earth man, dispite all his money, he worked at a hospital even though he was a billionaire. He probably didn't see it necessary to have bodyguards when the rest of the city doesn't have them.

I know, Scarletspeed, he was a very good man. I'm a terrible person, but he just got on my nerves so much and the mom was just a cypher. The feminist in me has a bit of a beef with Nolan's universe because the women don't really play a part in any of the plot. It's like they don't factor into anything. Rachel came close and TDK expanded her character a little more than BB...and she was a great upgrade from Katie Holmes...but that's as close as they get.

I like the comicbook story where they were coming out of a movie theater rather than the opera. Just a family outing. It makes it even more tragic somehow, whereas with the opera, since they left because Bruce was afraid, it already seemed to be an omen of things to come. Who expects anything bad to happen coming out of a movie theater?

Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
Bruce Wayne's Dad was a very down to earth man, dispite all his money, he worked at a hospital even though he was a billionaire. He probably didn't see it necessary to have bodyguards when the rest of the city doesn't have them.


Good comments

I don't understand why they're not watching the Mark of Zorro in Batman begins, never understood why they changed that except for maybe further enhancing Bruce's psychological dislike of bats.

I can understand them being good people, that doesn't bug me. If they were crooked it'd be no point in Bruce wanting revenge. But still, even if he only thought it was fair in any incarnation for them to not have bodyguards....why take an alley as a shortcut or period knowing how the city is? Why not have Alfred pick you up or why not just wait and tell Bruce to wait in the lobby somewhere until that particular part was over? Also, Batman Begins had the parent's death scene closer to the comics because it was a random crook, and not a major villain like the Joker.

Originally posted by Da Joker
I can understand them being good people, that doesn't bug me. If they were crooked it'd be no point in Bruce wanting revenge. But still, even if he only thought it was fair in any incarnation for them to not have bodyguards....why take an alley as a shortcut or period knowing how the city is? Why not have Alfred pick you up or why not just wait and tell Bruce to wait in the lobby somewhere until that particular part was over? Also, Batman Begins had the parent's death scene closer to the comics because it was a random crook, and not a major villain like the Joker.

Which is why I said take out Napier, and it's a very good, true to comics scene... See the vid I posted, it's great...

But you're taking out something from the scene in order to say it's like the comics, and that's not how it works.

Originally posted by Da Joker
But you're taking out something from the scene in order to say it's like the comics, and that's not how it works.

It's still an awesome scene...

Very eerie, and dream like...

Still, it's odd to me why they'd walk down an alley at night. They didn't deserve to die but man were they stupid for that.

Originally posted by Da Joker
I have thought about this many times, and still don't understand why billionaires would be walking the streets at night, knowing it's terribly dangerous. I know it's important to the mythos but c'mon, they shouldn't be that stupid, right?

They were leaving the opera house. What is so stupid about that?

Originally posted by Bat Dude
It's still an awesome scene...

Very eerie, and dream like...
I agree Batdude

Originally posted by Robtard
They were leaving the opera house. What is so stupid about that?

The fact that they decided to walk through an alley in a town where robberies happen all the time?

Considering that Begins was mostly Bruce Wayne's adventure... it could be that his dad's last words were not really spoken, but a 'terrible thought' that Bruce had to live with.

He was young. He was impressionable. Maybe the whole flashbacks aren't as accurate as we are viewing them at Bruce's viewpoint.

I never thought of Alfred just picking them up. While I didn't grow up in as big or bad a city as Gotham, all the theaters and stuff were downtown with a high crime rate. The whole thing doesn't make sense. Why take a kid that young to the opera anyway? Bruce seems to be a well-behaved, well-bred kid, but most children simply don't care for opera. Why not leave him at home with Alfred? Let him be a kid. Then if he gets scared, why not sit with him in the lobby until the "bat" part is over? That can't be the whole opera. And then, here's a thought: go out the front entrance rather than the side that opens up to an alley.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
I never thought of Alfred just picking them up. While I didn't grow up in as big or bad a city as Gotham, all the theaters and stuff were downtown with a high crime rate. The whole thing doesn't make sense. Why take a kid that young to the opera anyway? Bruce seems to be a well-behaved, well-bred kid, but most children simply don't care for opera. Why not leave him at home with Alfred? Let him be a kid. Then if he gets scared, why not sit with him in the lobby until the "bat" part is over? That can't be the whole opera. And then, here's a thought: go out the front entrance rather than the side that opens up to an alley.



Good points...

BUt if they did all of that then Batman wouldn't be born, lol

Dude, it is what it is. Just accept it.

I agree with willofthewisp, in that "No one is that perfect, that calm." in reference to Thomas Wayne getting mugged and subsequently murdered in Begins. That's the only thing that bugged me about the scene.

But hey, no mugging / murdering = no Batman.

Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
BUt if they did all of that then Batman wouldn't be born, lol this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief

Originally posted by U Neek
Dude, it is what it is. Just accept it.

I agree with willofthewisp, in that "No one is that perfect, that calm." in reference to Thomas Wayne getting mugged and subsequently murdered in Begins. That's the only thing that bugged me about the scene.

But hey, no mugging / murdering = no Batman.

I have long accepted it, I just wanted to point out how odd it was and show that it was indeed on my mind. I know I'm not the only one to have thought about it.

Originally posted by Da Joker
I have long accepted it, I just wanted to point out how odd it was and show that it was indeed on my mind. I know I'm not the only one to have thought about it.

Fair play.

In this day and age, with cinemas and what not, they should have showed the Wayne family leaving a cinema after having watched a film. Bruce should be in good spirits as he is seeing a movie with his folks; a rare treat considering how busy they are with their work.

They have given Alfred the night off. As such, they decide to take a short cut back to where their car is parked. All of a sudden a mugger emerges from the shadows and takes away everything that is near and dear to Bruce.

This is how I remember it from the comics. Perhaps Begins should have done the same...Rather than making Bruce already scared when the left the opera...