Favorite Joker

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Da Joker
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I made the poll multiple choice in case anyone wanted to vote for more than one Joker.

My votes go to Mark Hamil & of course Heath Ledger. They are the two best media incarnations of the Joker thus far, and I really enjoyed seeing them in action. In fact, I wouldn't mind Hamil returning as the Joker in a new series if we get one anytime soon. As for Jack's performance, it was awesome but in a way Jack was being Jack. Kevin's voice of the Joker was cool, and I liked the new take on his Joker, but I absolutely hate everything about Caesar Romero's Joker.

SelinaAndBruce
I can't really decide. Hamill, Nicholson and Ledger of them have something different that I liked a lot about them.

demoneyeslaharl
Hamil and Ledger.

Bat Dude
Mark Hamil

His Joker from Mask of the Phantasm is my favorite Joker...

Then Ledger

Then Nicholson

Then Romero

Then Richardson

U Neek
Just went to watch TDK again last night for the second time. Have to say Ledger is my favourite Joker. His performance was just something else!

Barbarian Shams
I'd say it's a tossup between the masterpiece performance of Heath Ledger and the personification of comicbook Joker with Mark Hamil. Both of those two were perfect in what they did and I thoroughly enjoy them both. Moviewise I loved Heath Ledger's amazing portrayal and the BTAS interpretation from Mark Hamil is nothing short of steller.

Mairuzu
If you're not willing to shave your mustache, gtfo

Da Joker
Ledger's performance, thus far, is the closest to Hamil's, and Ledger's is probably going to go down as the best comic movie villain performance of all time. It was that damn good.

Mairuzu
Hamil is just a voice

Da Joker
So what? Don't like the options, gtfo.

And guys, it's multiple choice, so I don't know why some are only voting for one if they don't want to.

BruceSkywalker
Romero's Joker came during a time when people didn't neccasarily buy into the concept of comic books. Let alone a man dressing up in tights. But Romero's Joker was decent for its time.

Mark Hamil has the better Joker voice than Richardson.


Now the good stuff...Jack's Joker was good, but never a true interpretation of the character. Ledger on the other hand turned it up several notches and quite possibly will overcome Darth Vader as the greatest movie screen villain of all time. Ledger delivered a gut wrenching, oscar worthy performance and is simply the best.

Mairuzu
Originally posted by Da Joker
So what? Don't like the options, gtfo.

And guys, it's multiple choice, so I don't know why some are only voting for one if they don't want to. what a tard

Da Joker
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Romero's Joker came during a time when people didn't neccasarily buy into the concept of comic books. Let alone a man dressing up in tights. But Romero's Joker was decent for its time.

Mark Hamil has the better Joker voice than Richardson.


Now the good stuff...Jack's Joker was good, but never a true interpretation of the character. Ledger on the other hand turned it up several notches and quite possibly will overcome Darth Vader as the greatest movie screen villain of all time. Ledger delivered a gut wrenching, oscar worthy performance and is simply the best.

I agree but I've never been a big Star Wars fan (still love Darth Vader) and I don't know if the movie Joker will be that great. Comics Joker is THE greatest villain of all time, though.

Jack's Joker was a good incarnation and interpretation, but I felt at times it was Jack being Jack, and not the Joker. His performance was definitely enjoyable, but not too Joker esque. Ledger's Joker was closer to the earlier version of the Joker, who kicked Batman's ass regularly...with no dirty tricks. I love that Ledger's Joker was never afraid to get physical and loved pain...which is another advantage of Ledger's Joker over Jack's. Jack's couldn't even get a simple punch in and was scared to die whereas Ledger's Joker was borderline suicidal...or at least fascinated with the idea of someone worthy like Batman or Dent killing him.

Da Joker
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Mairuzu
I think a simple "I Like heath ledgers joker the most" is enough


no point in spamming the pictures (Huge ones that that) in the thread

Da Joker
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Mr Parker
Originally posted by Mairuzu
Hamil is just a voice

true so you cant count him.I still like Romero the best.Jack was just being Jack and didnt have the right build where Ledger although he had the right build and was great in the role,I will never like his new look they gave the joker.If they had just gotten Ledgers look right like they did with Nicholson,I would say a tie between Romero and ledger but since they messed up on that,still got to go with Romero.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Da Joker
I agree but I've never been a big Star Wars fan (still love Darth Vader) and I don't know if the movie Joker will be that great. Comics Joker is THE greatest villain of all time, though.

Jack's Joker was a good incarnation and interpretation, but I felt at times it was Jack being Jack, and not the Joker. His performance was definitely enjoyable, but not too Joker esque. Ledger's Joker was closer to the earlier version of the Joker, who kicked Batman's ass regularly...with no dirty tricks. I love that Ledger's Joker was never afraid to get physical and loved pain...which is another advantage of Ledger's Joker over Jack's. Jack's couldn't even get a simple punch in and was scared to die whereas Ledger's Joker was borderline suicidal...or at least fascinated with the idea of someone worthy like Batman or Dent killing him.


I agree

Bat Dude
What's with all the big pictures? They stretch the page down...

And just because Hamil was just a voice doesn't mean he didn't have to ACT to play Joker...

Hamil is the best Joker we've ever had, imo... The character was drawn exceptionally well, and the voice was awesome...

Da Joker
Hell, he was playing the Joker. Everyone who worked with him said that most of the Joker's movements were borrowed from Hamil when he was doing the voiceover.

Maistro
For all of you who are saying Hamill's Joker was just a voice please go watch the Batman Beyond Return of the Joker movie ( its better animated than TAS was ) uncut if possible and tell me that is just a voice

His facial features and bodily poses are based on the movement Mark would make while preforming. He had awesome lines and he also delivered them with perfect accuratie you could tell the emotional intentions he had while delivering those lines, same goes for his laugh thats acting in its purest form my friend

Scythe
They say if you scroll very fast through one of these threads, you can watch TDK 2.

Maistro
All scenes with Ledger anyways stick out tongue

Scythe
Originally posted by Maistro
All scenes with Ledger anyways stick out tongue

Enough to make fanboys wet.

Neo Darkhalen
It's hard to choose, you can't really compere Jack's Joker to Heath's Joker or Jack's Joker to Mark's Joker etc...so on the basis that each one is a different take on the character i will list my top 3 from that list

Heath Ledger is my no 1 - he was the Joker
Mark Hamil is my no 2 - he was a great Joker and i thought he did a fantastic job
Jack Nich is my no 3 - he stole the show of Batman.

Those three are my favorite Jokers, i can't have one overall Joker i like.

Da Joker
All Joker's almost always steal the show from Batman...unless you're Caesar Romero.

Da Joker
Who shall take up the mantle as Mr. J in the next franchise of movies? Whoever he is, he better try something totally new with the character like Ledger did.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
It's hard to choose, you can't really compere Jack's Joker to Heath's Joker or Jack's Joker to Mark's Joker etc...so on the basis that each one is a different take on the character i will list my top 3 from that list

Heath Ledger is my no 1 - he was the Joker
Mark Hamil is my no 2 - he was a great Joker and i thought he did a fantastic job
Jack Nich is my no 3 - he stole the show of Batman.

Those three are my favorite Jokers, i can't have one overall Joker i like.

yeah thats a good point.you really cant compare them all because of this good point he makes.That being the case,
1.Mark Hamill is my no 1.yeah he did a fantastic job.Till he did the joker voice I had no idea he was such a great actor and could change voices so well.
2.Ceasar Romero-for the same reasons listed earlier.
3.Heath Ledger as Joker for reasons earlier.

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Da Joker
I posted the link to that about one or two weeks ago. OLD.

I never liked Romero's Joker....it just doesn't seem Joker like at all.

Neo Darkhalen
He did well for the times, and fit into the theme of the 60's Batman, so you can't really knock him for that.

RevoWution™©®
Ledger and Nicholson both did a fine job, imo, although they both portrayed the Joker in different ways.

SelinaAndBruce
Yea honestly I think each excelled at the Joker they were asked to play. Even Romero. I didn't like his Joker but he made him what he needed to make him for the context of that cornball show

Bat Dude
Romero's Joker was the harmless prankster Joker of the 60s

Nicholson's Joker was the murderous prankster Joker of the 70s

Hamil's Joker was the murderous prankster Joker of the 70s/80s

Ledger's Joker was the psychotic murderer Joker of today

They all played the Joker they were asked to play very well

At least, that's my take on it...

Da Joker
Hamil voiced the Joker in the 90's and 2000's, not the 70's and '80's.

Bat Dude
Originally posted by Da Joker
Hamil voiced the Joker in the 90's and 2000's, not the 70's and '80's.

*facepalm*

I know that, I was talking about the type of Joker they were playing...

Jack's Joker is highly influenced by the 70s version of the character, and Hamil's takes cues from both the 70s and 80s versions...

Romero's is taken straight from the comics of the 60s, and Ledger's is highly influenced by the comics of the 40s and today...

Da Joker
Okay, I see that now. And I still hate Romero's Joker, no matter if it was from the comics of that time.

Bat Dude
Yeah, it's all opinion based...

I'm not a big Romero fan, either, but I thought he did well with what he had to work with (not to mention the show wasn't taken too seriously by the producers)

Da Joker
Hamil's Joker is still the best, I watched Return of the Joker today and it was pretty damn good, I've always loved that movie.

Scythe
Romero was the first Joker ever, he layed down the foundation, and he had a great laugh that people overlook because Hamill's was very, very good.

Bat Dude
I could never get into Batman Beyond when it was on... It just felt like a bad idea to me at the time... But now, looking back on it, I really kinda like the premiere episodes (or Batman Beyond: The Movie, as it's called in DVD format) and Return of the Joker...

Dark-Jaxx
It really depends on which version of Joker you prefer.

I really enjoyed Ledger's Joker, I always loved the murderous, psychotic version of the Joker. Ledger easily stole the show from Batman, second time I watched it I wanted the other characters to stfu so I could see another Joker scene. And I loved how this Joker was not afraid of a physical confrontation, he would beat your ass. Was also not afraid to die, and was a master planner and schemer.

Hamill is my second fave. Always loved the animated series Joker, he was a killer like Ledger, but also had the prankster edge, and his laugh was legend.

Nicholson's, though not my favorite, did a good job with his role, but I just couldn't take this depiction seriously because he didn't seem to be threatening at all, he was kinda a wuss in terms of confrontations and death. But still overall a great job.

RevoWution™©®
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Second time I watched it I wanted the other characters to stfu so I could see another Joker scene.

I LOL'ed when I read that big grin

Heath and Nicholson's portrayals are tied at 1st place for me, because I really don't think they can be compared.

And I haven't seen enough of the animated Batman series to rate Luke Skywalker accurately.

Toku King
Originally posted by Mr Parker
true so you cant count him.

He portrayed him, thus it counts.
The best are Hamill and Ledger.

Kelly_Bean
Heath.
He has (in my opinion) played the most convincing and portrayable Joker yet.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by Bat Dude
Romero's Joker was the harmless prankster Joker of the 60s

Nicholson's Joker was the murderous prankster Joker of the 70s

Hamil's Joker was the murderous prankster Joker of the 70s/80s

Ledger's Joker was the psychotic murderer Joker of today

They all played the Joker they were asked to play very well

At least, that's my take on it...

and a vert good one I might add. smile

Da Joker

Maistro
You really need to watch Batman 89 again my friend, Jack's preformance was not just Jack being Jack it was spot on to
the way the joker was presented back then

The whole "trying to preserve as much of jack as possible" was in regard of the looks department. so get your head out of Heath's ass ( god rest his soul ) and realise how good a job Jack did back in the day

But your are prolly not old enough to have seen the film when it first came out, so your reference to the Joker is based on the Joker we read about now

SelinaAndBruce
Originally posted by Maistro
You really need to watch Batman 89 again my friend, Jack's preformance was not just Jack being Jack it was spot on to
the way the joker was presented back then

The whole "trying to preserve as much of jack as possible" was in regard of the looks department. so get your head out of Heath's ass ( god rest his soul ) and realise how good a job Jack did back in the day

But your are prolly not old enough to have seen the film when it first came out, so your reference to the Joker is based on the Joker we read about now
Well I'm fairly young myself, clocking in at 23 and I still thought Jack's performance was amazingly creepy. As a kid the feather scene was something that I found kind of horrifying, that and that news lady dying at her desk.

Maistro
I agree with you 100 % my friend, i just find it sad that such a great performance gets dubbed jack-being-jack by some damn kid who has no clue as to what a good preformance is

SelinaAndBruce
Well everyone is entitled to their opinion however I agree that I do hate the total lack of regard given to the previous Batman films and the performers. Yes the Dark Knight is an epic and yes Heath was amazing but I believe that others did a fine job back in the day too. I guess everyone cannot see this or doesn't see it that way though

Master Crimzon
Heath Ledger's Joker is my personal favorite. Seriously; I smiled at every line of his. Some sort of twisted, weird smile... I personally think that this is the best way to portray the Joker; a homicidal nutcase who likes to screw minds, cause chaos. Him laughing hysterically while taking a fall to his death is, IMO, one of the creepiest scenes in movie villain history. He may just become my favorite villain of all time.

Mark Hamill's is next. I think he's the one who must successfully portrayed the 'prankster' side of the Joker, particularly in Return of the Joker, where he was the only one to truly fully mix the 'comic' and the killer side of the Joker. Plus, it's Luke Skywalker, so knowing he could whip out his lightsaber and WTFpwn his opponents at any time gives him bonus points. wink

Nicholson's is next. He wasn't particularly threatening nor a very effective fighter, but he still was hysterically funny.

Da Joker
Jack's performance....creepy? laughing out loud

Heath Ledger's Joker was creepy, Darth Vader was creepy, Michael Myers & Jason Vorhees were both creepy, but Jack's Joker was not. He's not on par with Heath's Joker at all for the simple fact that no one even said that Jack disappeared into the role but basically everyone has said Heath disappeared into the role. He portrayed the Joker everyone has always wanted in a movie and a hell of a lot of people are saying he's te best movie villain in movie history, no one ever said that about Jack. I'm just putting this out there for anyone who thinks Jack's Joker is ahead or even in league with Heath's. I have a clue what a great performance is, Jack's Joker was no where near great. Heath had a great performance, Ed Norton had a great performance, Robert Downey Jr. had a great performance, Jack had nothing short of a good performance. He was great in "The Shining" and "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" but not in B('89). Anyone who says so is only doing so in some foolish hope to say he's as good as Ledger, which is a lie.

TheGame17
Originally posted by Maistro
You really need to watch Batman 89 again my friend, Jack's preformance was not just Jack being Jack it was spot on to
the way the joker was presented back then

The whole "trying to preserve as much of jack as possible" was in regard of the looks department. so get your head out of Heath's ass ( god rest his soul ) and realise how good a job Jack did back in the day

But your are prolly not old enough to have seen the film when it first came out, so your reference to the Joker is based on the Joker we read about now

i just watched the original batman movie. he's definately overrated. he was korny and lame. he was afraid of Batman when he was confronted at the end. Didn't seem like he took the role as seriously as Heath. He also didn't steal the show completely like Ledger did in TDK.

But I guess it's easy to think that Jack was AMAZING when he's put in a mediocore movie like Batman '89..

Da Joker
He wasn't corny and lame, he was entertaining, but by no means great. To compare him to Heath is idiotic.

Bat Dude
Originally posted by Da Joker
He wasn't corny and lame, he was entertaining, but by no means great. To compare him to Heath is idiotic.

Because they are 2 different Jokers...

You can't compare Heath to Jack, because they played completely different style Jokers...

It's not fair to compare them...

Da Joker
Yes, it is fair. You're just using that argument and it really makes no sense. Jack was majorly portraying himself, Heath wasn't at all. Heath is better, Jack said so himself, it's fair to compare, just get over all that.

Bat Dude
Originally posted by Da Joker
Yes, it is fair. You're just using that argument and it really makes no sense. Jack was majorly portraying himself, Heath wasn't at all. Heath is better, Jack said so himself, it's fair to compare, just get over all that.

Yes, Ledger was better, but they were two COMPLETELY different Jokers... To compare them would be like comparing Metallica to Ratt, both are good, but they are completely different...

Da Joker
Dude, they are the same character. I could see if you said comparing Dafoe's Goblin to Heath's Joker wouldn't be fair to compare, but this is the same character, so it is completely fair to compare them both.

Toku King
Originally posted by Da Joker
Dude, they are the same character. I could see if you said comparing Dafoe's Goblin to Heath's Joker wouldn't be fair to compare, but this is the same character, so it is completely fair to compare them both.

No, they aren't.

SelinaAndBruce
Originally posted by Da Joker
Jack's performance....creepy? laughing out loud

Heath Ledger's Joker was creepy, Darth Vader was creepy, Michael Myers & Jason Vorhees were both creepy, but Jack's Joker was not.
He was creepy to me. And you do realize he was listed as one of the top 50 movie villains ever on a few ranking lists for the role. So yea now in today's day and age he might not be considered creepy but back then he was considered evil, funny and scary by younger people. I saw Batman 1989 as a youngster and he scared me.

Toku King
Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
He was creepy to me. And you do realize he was listed as one of the top 50 movie villains ever on a few ranking lists for the role. So yea now in today's day and age he might not be considered creepy but back then he was considered evil, funny and scary by younger people. I saw Batman 1989 as a youngster and he scared me.

I never found him creepy, even when I was little.

Bat Dude
As a kid, I found Jack's Joker pretty scary, but now? No way...

SelinaAndBruce
Originally posted by Bat Dude
As a kid, I found Jack's Joker pretty scary, but now? No way...
Exactly. I think he's a good portion of the reason I'm scared of clowns. I developed that fear before I even read of heard of Stephen King's It but I was exposed to Batman at a very young age and I actually remember some things that haunted me about the Joker were the pen is mighter than the sword scene (for some reason that stuck with me for years. I forgot about it till I randomly watched Batman 1989 again when I was a teen) and the ending scene where he was lying smashed into the ground and that creepy thing was laughing scared the crap out of me as a kid. O and definitely the Smilex commercials and the newslady dying. O and also the scene where he smashes the mirror creeped me out especially how he went from weeping to laughing and then got up and smashed that light bulb and cackled maniacally as he walked up the stairs really strangely.

Da Joker
Jack's Joker was never scary to me. He was always funny and evil, but never creepy. Heath's Joker is borderline psychotic and he somewhat creeped me out. Had I been younger, he'd have made me truly scared. But the Joker in general is the reason I've never been afraid of clowns.

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