Captain America v Deathstroke

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Warrior18
Keeps cropping up in debates. Time to settle it.
1 Standard equipment
2 H2H fisticuffs.

ps did an advanced search and nothing came up, so sorry if it has been done.

Daredevil1
Its basically a toss up. But I go with Cap.

Stats are equal both have enhanced mind and enhanced stamina. Both heal very quickly nothing like Logan but its there.

Grinning Goku
I think Deathstroke has the edge in stats, including healing. He heals faster than cap. Ultimate Cap and Deathstroke are closer peers.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by Grinning Goku
I think Deathstroke has the edge in stats, including healing. He heals faster than cap. Ultimate Cap and Deathstroke are closer peers.


I disagree entirely since most Slade fans have not ever been able to prove at all a edge in stats including healing. Your welcome to try if you can.

llagrok
Originally posted by Daredevil1
I disagree entirely since most Slade fans have not ever been able to prove at all a edge in stats including healing. Your welcome to try if you can.

Well, he's been shot with a machine gun and got up...

Deadshot shot him plenty of times in the face and body :/

How does that NOT prove he has a healing factor?

CaptainStoic
Originally posted by llagrok
Well, he's been shot with a machine gun and got up...

Deadshot shot him plenty of times in the face and body :/

How does that NOT prove he has a healing factor?

I'm really confused, is Slade not immortal?

TheGame17
slade 6-7/10

Daredevil1
Originally posted by llagrok
Well, he's been shot with a machine gun and got up...

Deadshot shot him plenty of times in the face and body :/

How does that NOT prove he has a healing factor?


Slade does wear sturdy armor as shown how he survived bad bullets.

He does heal faster but not a healing factor like Wolverine thats why Slade could not regenerate his eye.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I'm really confused, is Slade not immortal?


No. Slade can't even regenerate his eye. He can survive fatal wounds that can kill a average joe in comparison to them he is. But he can be killed.

Daredevil1
Some Cap healing feats thanks to ICT poster Saotome.


Healing/Recovery feats

Cap's hands are burnt bad in the fires. They'll heal once were out of here.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9479/captainamerica23503gz0.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/983/captainamerica23504lb9.jpg

Bullet to the shoulder no worries for Cap. "I heal fast" "I'm built that way"
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8254/camedusaeffect047te3.jpg

Cap handles poison.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9079/capamericav135902roughelb5.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3644/capamericav135903rougheyz9.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7200/capamericav135904rougheme7.jpg

Was offered paramedics for being in a bad explosion. Cap's answer "not necessary"
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1355/captainamerica373p05py4.jpg

Cap takes a thrashing from Namor. Namor impressed how quickly Cap recovers.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3066/captainamerica42319yz3.jpg
(Cap was going to go another round with Namor later on)
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7059/captainamerica42323bn3.jpg

A alien agent was affecting many including super humans like She-Hulk, but not Captain America.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4048/wca04914ml6.jpg

Again a lethal virus created by the Red Skull. It killed more then 1000's and affected She Hulk among others like Scott(Cyclops). Cap was exposed to it throughout most of Black Panthers/Ironmans fight with Skull.
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8396/avengersv306520rougherow4.jpg
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3049/avengersv306806rougherlh8.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1853/avgrs6908ng4.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8633/avgrs6918to1.jpg
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/9521/avgrs6919ik8.jpg
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/7321/avgrs6920hg7.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4886/avengersv307005rougherpi0.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7585/avengersv307016roughergl9.jpg


Bullet to the head lots of blood splattered. Doc even called time of death for Cap.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4069/capfalcon1310fr2.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9591/capfalcon1318je2.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7548/page003004sn5.jpg


Cap's healing is a bit underrated and Slade does not have a healing factor thats not even comparable to Wolverine or Deadpool.

Metalmanx
Originally posted by Grinning Goku
I think Deathstroke has the edge in stats, including healing. He heals faster than cap. Ultimate Cap and Deathstroke are closer peers.

I actually completely agree with this.

However, 616 Cap vs. Deathstroke is still a great fight, given that 616 Cap's skills are much better than his Ultimate counterpart and, in my opinion, superior to DS's.

Endrict Nuul
Cap wins.

Daredevil1
In actuality I've seen the majority of Slades strength feats. He has one good high end feat in carrying a long cable. But if we go by average majority feats in strength both Cap and Blackpanther outshine Slade IMO.

Priest
Captain America punched out the Hulk!

Warrior18
Bump

comicfan11
Originally posted by Daredevil1
No. Slade can't even regenerate his eye. He can survive fatal wounds that can kill a average joe in comparison to them he is. But he can be killed.

Didn't DS lose his eye before he got the regeneration power?
And i think that yes he is indeed immortal.

Anyway Slade 7-8/10

Warrior18
bump

BruceSkywalker
Cap

the Darkone
Cap wins both 1 and 2, Cap is every bit as good as Deathstroke but better and more skilled, I think Cap is stronger than DS.

Warrior18
For the record people this thread relates to Steve Rogers.

namorsubby
DS is stronger and faster.he has a real healing factor. he has armor,guns.swords etc etc.he's smarter. cap only has his skills to rely upon in this fight.and that gap is not nearly large enough to grant him a win.

vansonbee
Originally posted by namorsubby
DS is stronger and faster.he has a real healing factor. he has armor,guns.swords etc etc.he's smarter. cap only has his skills to rely upon in this fight.and that gap is not nearly large enough to grant him a win.

Captain got Shield and its slice & dice

Warrior18
Originally posted by namorsubby
DS is stronger and faster.he has a real healing factor. he has armor,guns.swords etc etc.he's smarter. cap only has his skills to rely upon in this fight.and that gap is not nearly large enough to grant him a win.

No offence friend but many here would challenge you to produce scans etc showing evidence of DS being stronger faster and certainly more intelligent than Cap. The argument is that it hasn't been proved who the physical superior is out of the two.

namorsubby
have they seen what DS has done with kid flash/wally west? have they seen him lift what a hundred men couldn't? do they know that his brain is a super-calculating machine that can go over hundreds of thousands of scenarios to affect the outcome of a fight?


they want scans,they can go and look at the deathstroke respect thread for themselves.it's all there



how about this,captain america VS. the teen titans.that would most likely be considered a spite thread right? well DS takes them on all the time,and has made a fool out of them more than once.he's taken on donna star,nightwing,batgirl,and ravager in a close h2h match at the same time.cap is outclassed.

Warrior18
I'm no expert on Deathstroke, but his strength and speed feats IMO aren't as numerous and on average better than Cap's. The lifting of the cable which took 100 men to move has been argued by some to be a high end feat. On average he does not perform feats like that. He has however been said to have the strength of 10.....as has Cap. I agree that DS is a beast and I have always thought of him as having better stats than Cap (I liked to think of him as being similar to ultimate Cap), but his feats on panel don't really put him that far ahead of Cap IMO.

occultdestroyer
Deathstroke.
HF is faster than Cap, his mind calculates faster than Cap.
And he's basically immortal.

Not to mention Cap died from a single sniper shot.

Warrior18
I beleive Cap was wearing strength dampeners and Cap has recovered from a gunshot wound to the head before, after being pronounced dead.
Cap also has an enhanced tactical mind.

vansonbee
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Deathstroke.
HF is faster than Cap, his mind calculates faster than Cap.
And he's basically immortal.

Not to mention Cap died from a single sniper shot.

Produce the scans, let see DS live through a snipe shoot...

namorsubby
deathstroke lives through multiple machine gun fire close range.his respect threads not far away.check it out.

captain america is no where near class 10. he's not even class 2

namorsubby
here you go.multiple machine gun fire close range.and that was deadshot so you know he's hitting all the right places:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/...t/DSstroke1.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/...t/DSstroke2.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/...t/DSstroke3.jpg

vansonbee
Originally posted by namorsubby
here you go.multiple machine gun fire close range.and that was deadshot so you know he's hitting all the right places:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/...t/DSstroke1.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/...t/DSstroke2.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/...t/DSstroke3.jpg

roll eyes (sarcastic) blank links

namorsubby
they work on my deadshot respect thread.page 7
.

vansonbee
Originally posted by namorsubby
they work on my deadshot respect thread.page 7
.

okay I change my vote to Deathstroke. lolz Happy Dance

Warrior18
Originally posted by namorsubby
deathstroke lives through multiple machine gun fire close range.his respect threads not far away.check it out.

captain america is no where near class 10. he's not even class 2

I respect Slade's HF. I sort of agree with you about Cap's strength. I think Cap is capable of lifting 1 ton, but not much more. However that '100 men' strength feat Slade performed IMO could still be said to be high end. Does he do that sort of thing on a regular basis? Again I'm no expert on Slade but both him and Cap have been described as having the strength of 10 men.

namorsubby
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t362451.html

Daredevil1
Originally posted by namorsubby
deathstroke lives through multiple machine gun fire close range.his respect threads not far away.check it out.

captain america is no where near class 10. he's not even class 2


Yeah thanks to his promethium armor. Also Cap's lived through gun fire before as well.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by namorsubby
DS is stronger and faster.he has a real healing factor. he has armor,guns.swords etc etc.he's smarter. cap only has his skills to rely upon in this fight.and that gap is not nearly large enough to grant him a win.

Prove he's stronger and faster.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Deathstroke.
HF is faster than Cap, his mind calculates faster than Cap.
And he's basically immortal.

Not to mention Cap died from a single sniper shot.


Prove he's faster and that his mind calculates faster then Cap.

iceman24567
Slade takes it.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by Warrior18
I'm no expert on Deathstroke, but his strength and speed feats IMO aren't as numerous and on average better than Cap's. The lifting of the cable which took 100 men to move has been argued by some to be a high end feat.


The lifting of the cable is a else world feat. Slade from the future who was already part cyborg or some shit.

I have a Cap from the future lifting up a car to even holding up massive girders.

On average strength feats Cap will come out better IMO.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by namorsubby
deathstroke lives through multiple machine gun fire close range.his respect threads not far away.check it out.

captain america is no where near class 10. he's not even class 2



Slade is no where near class 10. He's not even class 2.

namorsubby
ha.funny

i've seen bios where he's stated to be class 10.and he has numerous that exceed class 2. i'm sure that one with the 100 men exceeds class 8

anyway,DS wins because he's already physically superior.plus he's smarter and his tactics are almost unequaled.

look at this guy's showings for pete's sake. DS vs the JLA? DS vs the teen titans? DS taking on ravager,donna troy,nightwing,and batgirl at the same time close quarters? there's at least two peope in that last one that would be a challenge for cap by themselves,i don't see how anyone says deathstroke loses this.

vansonbee
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Slade is no where near class 10. He's not even class 2.

Captain America was stated as strong as 10 men, so is Slade.

Slade healing factor is greater then Caps
Can use 90% of Brain power to redirect or attack his oppenent faster then they can react.

I voted from cap then I change my vote to Slade after reading his respect thread. 10/10 Slade

Warrior18
Originally posted by Daredevil1
The lifting of the cable is a else world feat. Slade from the future who was already part cyborg or some shit.

Cheers for correcting me. smile

namorsubby
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Yeah thanks to his promethium armor. Also Cap's lived through gun fire before as well. deadshot's bullets no doubt were armor penetrating seeing as his teammates claimed tha DS was pretty messed up afterwards as well.he coudl've waltzed through that sniper bullet

Warrior18
Originally posted by namorsubby
ha.funny

look at this guy's showings for pete's sake. DS vs the JLA? DS vs the teen titans? DS taking on ravager,donna troy,nightwing,and batgirl at the same time close quarters? there's at least two peope in that last one that would be a challenge for cap by themselves,i don't see how anyone says deathstroke loses this.

Would the JLA fight be the one where they seem to be after Doctor Light and he solos them? The one where the Green Lantern tries to punch Slade?

Daredevil1
Originally posted by vansonbee
Captain America was stated as strong as 10 men, so is Slade.

Slade healing factor is greater then Caps
Can use 90% of Brain power to redirect or attack his oppenent faster then they can react.

I voted from cap then I change my vote to Slade after reading his respect thread. 10/10 Slade


Cap's brain is enhanced as he surpassed warriors in learning a alien marital art while they took decades, Cap did it in one day.

Cap has outwitted in tactics/strategy tactical geniuses like Tony Starks and Reed Richards. Even they both admitted Cap is better at them in certain aspects. So Slade 90 % thing isn't that impressive.

Healing isn't shown to be vastly superior or that better then Cap's.

And strength/speed hasn't been proven.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by namorsubby
deadshot's bullets no doubt were armor penetrating seeing as his teammates claimed tha DS was pretty messed up afterwards as well.he coudl've waltzed through that sniper bullet



Yeah thanks to his armor. Which helped him a lot. Flash even blitzed him and asked what his armor made out of, its that sturdy.

vansonbee
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Cap's brain is enhanced as he surpassed warriors in learning a alien marital art while they took decades, Cap did it in one day.

Cap has outwitted in tactics/strategy tactical geniuses like Tony Starks and Reed Richards. Even they both admitted Cap is better at them in certain aspects. So Slade 90 % thing isn't that impressive.

Healing isn't shown to be vastly superior or that better then Cap's.

And strength/speed hasn't been proven.

90% of the brain being use during the battle isn't impressive?
Captain America just pick better Scenarios to counter Reed and Tony. He had prep to go through with that plan. While slade can think during the battle while Cap tries anything.

Check slade respect thread on his healing factor and recovery. It isn't as impressive as Wolverine, but better then Caps.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by namorsubby
ha.funny

i've seen bios where he's stated to be class 10.and he has numerous that exceed class 2. i'm sure that one with the 100 men exceeds class 8

anyway,DS wins because he's already physically superior.plus he's smarter and his tactics are almost unequaled.

look at this guy's showings for pete's sake. DS vs the JLA? DS vs the teen titans? DS taking on ravager,donna troy,nightwing,and batgirl at the same time close quarters? there's at least two peope in that last one that would be a challenge for cap by themselves,i don't see how anyone says deathstroke loses this.



The 100 men is a elseworld. The fact that you cite it shows you don't know that. Second bios are not the continuity books. You have yet to prove he's physically superior.

Look at Cap's showings Cap vs Namor? Cap vs Hulk? Cap vs Shield Super team that had Quasar on team. Cap taking on 100 of superhumans in close quarters? All these would be a challenge for Slade.

Heck even Batman has taken it too Slade. You discount circumstances/preparation for the Slade feats along with Pis. And this applies to the Cap ones that I cited as well.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by vansonbee
90% of the brain being use during the battle isn't impressive?
Captain America just pick better Scenarios to counter Reed and Tony. He had prep to go through with that plan. While slade can think during the battle while Cap tries anything.

Check slade respect thread on his healing factor and recovery. It isn't as impressive as Wolverine, but better then Caps.



The highs are impressive the majority are not on Logans level not even close. Cap can think during battle he does it on the fly all the time. Check Cap's respect thread.

namorsubby
you really need to check out that respect thread. i mean come on,Donna troy(in other words WONDER GIRL),batgirl(cassandra cain),nightwing,ravager, AND jericho(forgot to mention him).they all fought deathstroke,together,and they get the worst of it.

there's no way,i repeat no way captain america is lasting any significant amount of time in a bout like that. come to think of it,he wouldn't last 4 seconds in a fight with whom deathstroke regularly engages as a whole,the teen titans.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by namorsubby
you really need to check out that respect thread. i mean come on,Donna troy(in other words WONDER GIRL),batgirl(cassandra cain),nightwing,ravager, AND jericho(forgot to mention him).they all fought deathstroke,together,and they get the worst of it.

there's no way,i repeat no way captain america is lasting any significant amount of time in a bout like that. come to think of it,he wouldn't last 4 seconds in a fight with whom deathstroke regularly engages as a whole,the teen titans.


Already seen it. Maybe you need to see/read Cap issues.


You can't even prove he's stronger then Cap.

namorsubby
lol.i think i'm well-acquainted with the likes of steve rogers.more so than many others i do believe.

if you're still unwavering when you already know of that DS feat,then there's nothing to discuss here.

batgirl could give cap a run for his money.nightwing too.donna troy would beat him.all of them together?.............DEATHSTROKE FTW.

vansonbee
Originally posted by namorsubby
lol.i think i'm well-acquainted with the likes of steve rogers.more so than many others i do believe.

if you're still unwavering when you already know of that DS feat,then there's nothing to discuss here.

batgirl could give cap a run for his money.nightwing too.donna troy would beat him.all of them together?.............DEATHSTROKE FTW.

Yes they might give Cap a problem more so then DS, but Captain still beats them

Deathstroke made all of them look like midnight beeze

namorsubby
cap can beat wondergirl,batgirl,nightwing,ravager,and jericho at the same time? you know there's at least 3 that have a chance by themselves in that line-up.

vansonbee
Originally posted by namorsubby
cap can beat wondergirl,batgirl,nightwing,ravager,and jericho at the same time? you know there's at least 3 that have a chance by themselves in that line-up.

Blah Cap can't do that... his brain is limited lolz.

namorsubby
laughing

Daredevil1
Originally posted by namorsubby
lol.i think i'm well-acquainted with the likes of steve rogers.more so than many others i do believe.

if you're still unwavering when you already know of that DS feat,then there's nothing to discuss here.

batgirl could give cap a run for his money.nightwing too.donna troy would beat him.all of them together?.............DEATHSTROKE FTW.


All your doing is citing fight feats for Slade. Yet you claim physical superiority.....and yet I see no evidence for Slade being stronger let along stat superior.

namorsubby
there's the fact that sites state him to be class 10.


i'm done here.if citing that feat doesn't help,nothing at all will

Daredevil1
Originally posted by namorsubby
there's the fact that sites state him to be class 10.


i'm done here.if citing that feat doesn't help,nothing at all will



Sites are done by fans. Show proof from the books. Show him doing strength feats from books that are on Spiderman caliber of strength feats.

I'm citing Cap is class 10........doesn't make it so. Thats not actual stat evidence from his accomplishments from the books. Which is what counts.

occultdestroyer
Deathstroke 9/10

Warrior18
Bump.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by namorsubby
there's the fact that sites state him to be class 10.


i'm done here.if citing that feat doesn't help,nothing at all will
....your basing your opinion of slades strength based of web sights........... laughing laughing :


Slades feats do not support him being class 10 or even closes

godking
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Slade does wear sturdy armor as shown how he survived bad bullets.

He does heal faster but not a healing factor like Wolverine thats why Slade could not regenerate his eye. He cant regerate his eeye because he lost that eye before he got his healing factor.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by godking
He cant regerate his eeye because he lost that eye before he got his healing factor.

No he had his enhancement before his wife shot him in the eye.

Battlehammer
yea DS healing factor aint very good

Juntai
Deathstroke.

godking
Originally posted by Daredevil1
No he had his enhancement before his wife shot him in the eye. He had his FIRST enhancement before his wife shot him in the eye after that he got another enhancement which gave him his healing factor.

from the wiki on DS


Meanwhile, his relationship with his estranged wife Adeline took a tragic turn as Slade underwent a process to gain the ability of physical regeneration, allowing him to survive any wound so long as his brain is intact (this power is limited, as Slade cannot regenerate his lost eye since that injury happened before he gained his healing factor). After gaining this power,

Battlehammer
........wiki not an official sources...........nor is it even that accurate.......

namorsubby
deathstroke: physically superior, mentally superior.

deathstroke FTW about 10/10

Phantom Zone
I think Caps win the majority I suspect that Cap is more skillful but DS has a HF that gives him an advantage but not sure if its enough.

Raoul
Originally posted by Juntai
Deathstroke.

Phantom Zone
Why does DS win the majority?

Raoul
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Why does DS win the majority?

faster mentally and physically, just as skilled if not more skilled, and strong enough to put cap down, has some decent weaponry too imo...

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Raoul
faster mentally and physically,

Cap has enhanced intelligence as well. He has a HF but dont see how edit how he is physically faster.

Originally posted by Raoul

just as skilled if not more skilled,

Well you're gonna have a hard time proving hes more skilled.

Originally posted by Raoul


and strong enough to put cap down, has some decent weaponry too imo...

Ok but I think one of the stipluations was pure h2h.

Raoul
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Cap has enhanced intelligence as well. He has a HF but dont see how

it's not just intelligence. it slade's increased brain power too.



deathstroke has taken on half the justice league (including the flash, green lantern kyle, and zatanna). he's stomped the likes of arsenal, nightwing and robin. he beat both black canary and green arrow at the same time.

he's at least as skilled, imo.



ah, ok...

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Raoul
it's not just intelligence. it slade's increased brain power too.


Not sure how that gives him the definite advantage.

Originally posted by Raoul

deathstroke has taken on half the justice league (including the flash, green lantern kyle, and zatanna). he's stomped the likes of arsenal, nightwing and robin. he beat both black canary and green arrow at the same time.

he's at least as skilled, imo.

No prep involved in the JLA feat? Well as for the others they defintely dont prove hes more skillful. He also think he had trouble beating Batman and Batgirl. I dont think of either of those two would beat Cap.

Raoul
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Not sure how that gives him the definite advantage.

he moves and reacts faster than most people, including the likes of batman. his mind is always several steps ahead...



he had prep for flash, thats true. the rest, he did on his own. that was black canary (bag over her head before she could get a scream out, she couldn't even react to stop him). fast enough to catch out hawkman. vision that could spot ray palmer.

he's one of the best tacticians on earth, too...

he's beaten batman at least once that i can remember.

they wouldn't beat cap because of his enhanced attributes, or you don't think they're as skilled?

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Raoul
he moves and reacts faster than most people, including the likes of batman. his mind is always several steps ahead...


That didnt stop him from beating Batman after a long fight were he was severly messed up and from what Batman said in JLA/Avengers a fight between him and Cap would go the same way.

Originally posted by Raoul

he had prep for flash, thats true. the rest, he did on his own. that was black canary (bag over her head before she could get a scream out, she couldn't even react to stop him). fast enough to catch out hawkman. vision that could spot ray palmer.

Impressive but there is prep there so I think we should consider that.

Originally posted by Raoul

he's one of the best tacticians on earth, too...

So is Cap



Originally posted by Raoul

they wouldn't beat cap because of his enhanced attributes, or you don't think they're as skilled?

That point is redundant anyway because Cap has the SSS in this thread. I think hes as skillful as Batman without SSS it would be a draw.

jalek moye
Originally posted by namorsubby
deathstroke: physically superior, mentally superior.

deathstroke FTW about 10/10 deathstroke has no feats that put his strength above caps. its most likly the opposite.

And yea if he's so good then how can Batman stalemate him for along time without going down. yea he fights teams based on prep and trickery not straight up him against the team.


i'm not sure who would win but i'm just saying that he hasnt shown higher strength then steve

Raoul
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
That didnt stop him from beating Batman after a long fight were he was severly messed up and from what Batman said in JLA/Avengers a fight between him and Cap would go the same way.

batman said a fight between him and cap would be the same as him and slade?



prep for flash. not prep for green arrow, hawkman, zatanna, black canary (unless you count the bag), the atom and kyle rayner.

and he's beaten plenty of people before without prep.



never said he wasn't, just saying slade is comparable if not better...



i disagree.

hold on, this is pure h2h, so steve doesn't get a shield?

jalek moye
Originally posted by Phantom Zone

That point is redundant anyway because Cap has the SSS in this thread. I think hes as skillful as Batman without SSS it would be a draw.

No he wouldn't although he is just as skilled. Steve is really small and weak without SSS

jalek moye
Originally posted by Raoul
batman said a fight between him and cap would be the same as him and slade?



prep for flash. not prep for green arrow, hawkman, zatanna, black canary (unless you count the bag), the atom and kyle rayner.



hold on, this is pure h2h, so steve doesn't get a shield?

well him beating kyle seems really PIS unless he tricked him

and one is h2h so im guessing not, the other is standard

Juntai
Deathstroke

Raoul
Originally posted by jalek moye
well him beating kyle seems really PIS unless he tricked him

and one is h2h so im guessing not, the other is standard

kyle was an idiot. stupidity isn't really much of an excuse though, imo...

i'm not claiming he beat a powerful gl, but he did disable him because of kyle's stupidity...

and kyle was the last one to face slade. green arrow, canary, flash, hawkman et al were already down when slade went up against kyle.

Warrior18
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
That didnt stop him from beating Batman after a long fight were he was severly messed up and from what Batman said in JLA/Avengers a fight between him and Cap would go the same way.





To be fair to Slade their first fight wasn't very long at all. Batman got a few very good connections in before Slade beat the hell out of him. Another time they fought Batman got the jump on him and Slade was far more concerned with assassinating his target than fighting batman. In fact he floored batman initially beforehand and left him to go off and finish his mission, only for Bruce to recover and attack him again.

Batman clearly shows a much higher level of skill in their fights though. Cap would also show a higher level of skill too.

Batman said the fight between him and Cap would go on for a very long time. Batman and Slade's H2H fight did not.

Warrior18
Originally posted by Raoul




deathstroke has taken on half the justice league (including the flash, green lantern kyle, and zatanna). he's stomped the likes of arsenal, nightwing and robin. he beat both black canary and green arrow at the same time.

he's at least as skilled, imo.





He does that because his brain functions at a far superior level to his opponents. He is several steps ahead of them all the time.

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Raoul
batman said a fight between him and cap would be the same as him and slade?

Batman said Cap could beat him after a long fight. The writer clarfied this was Batman saying Cap was better than him looking at what the writer said and what Batman said we can say that Batman is saying that Cap would beat him after a long fight, this is what happened when Batman fought Deathstroke.


Originally posted by Raoul

prep for flash. not prep for green arrow, hawkman, zatanna, black canary (unless you count the bag), the atom and kyle rayner.

Yeah im counting the bag I dont think thats standard equipment
and he's beaten plenty of people before without prep.


Originally posted by Raoul

never said he wasn't, just saying slade is comparable if not better...


I dont think you're going to be able to prove Slade is better tactically.

Originally posted by Raoul

i disagree.

With what exactly point being redundant or Cap being as skilled?

Originally posted by Raoul

hold on, this is pure h2h, so steve doesn't get a shield?

In the second stipulation yes.

Warrior18
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Batman said Cap could beat him after a long fight. The writer clarfied this was Batman saying Cap was better than him looking at what the writer said and what Batman said we can say that Batman is saying that Cap would beat him after a long fight, this is what happened when Batman fought Deathstroke.



Except Batman and Slade's fights aren't very long at all.Slade beats him rather quickly. sad

Raoul
Originally posted by Warrior18
He does that because his brain functions at a far superior level to his opponents. He is several steps ahead of them all the time.

aye, that's what i've been saying...


Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Batman said Cap could beat him after a long fight. The writer clarfied this was Batman saying Cap was better than him looking at what the writer said and what Batman said we can say that Batman is saying that Cap would beat him after a long fight, this is what happened when Batman fought Deathstroke.

that's reaching, imo... slade and cap both bring different things to a fight...



makes no difference to me, slade has beaten her before in pure h2h anyways...



i wasn't trying to. i was just saying he's on cap's level...



the skill part.



ah, just read it...

with full equipment, i think cap can take 3 or 4 out of ten...

purely h2h, i think slade is simply too fast for him, but i'd give cap 3 or 4 again...

generally, slade 6/10, imo... maybe 7, but its hard to be too hard on cap...

Philosophía
Deathstroke, easily.

Warrior18
Originally posted by Raoul
aye, that's what i've been saying...



My bad. I thought you were using it to argue for Slade being the better fighter.

Raoul
Originally posted by Warrior18
My bad. I thought you were using it to argue for Slade being the better fighter.

lol, in a general sense, yes, because it adds to his repertoire, but not in the sense that it makes him more skilled...

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Warrior18
Except Batman and Slade's fights aren't very long at all.Slade beats him rather quickly. sad

The fight im refering to lasted quite a long time for a comic fight.

carver9
honestly, I think slade is a great fighter, if not one of the best but I just give cap the nods on this. Its hard to find people that could out fight cap without some kind of plot. I honestly think cap is just built to take out slade. This is a fight that slade wouldnt want to get in even though there is no one next to him with his skill.

I can see cap whipping that ass, especially if he has his shield. Cap is slade but I think he's a better version of him.

Cap 7/10

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Raoul



that's reaching, imo... slade and cap both bring different things to a fight...

With all due respect how have you proven that with evidence apart fom just saying he does?


Originally posted by Raoul


makes no difference to me, slade has beaten her before in pure h2h anyways...

I think the point is he couldnt beat all those guys together without prep. Still impressive though,


Originally posted by Raoul


the skill part.

Ok could you care to prove it please.



Originally posted by Raoul

ah, just read it...

with full equipment, i think cap can take 3 or 4 out of ten...

purely h2h, i think slade is simply too fast for him, but i'd give cap 3 or 4 again...

generally, slade 6/10, imo... maybe 7, but its hard to be too hard on cap...

The only reason why I can see DS getting a majority is because of his HF so you could say DS 6/10.

Raoul
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
With all due respect how have you proven that with evidence apart fom just saying he does?

slade has speed that cap doesn't have, cap has stamina and strength that slade doesn't have. it's common knowledge isn't it?



he beat atom, hawkman, zatanna, green arrow and kyle rayner without prep. thats impressive.

he's beaten canary before without prep. he's beaten canary and green arrow at the same time without prep.



i gave examples of who he's beaten. what else do you want?



his speed?

Phantom Zone
I can see where this is heading, better forget it. Oh and I was talking about Batman being more skilled than Cap, anyway your feats arent conclusive proof hes more skillful (Deathstroke) but I dont think it a stretch to say hes just as skillful.

Raoul
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I can see where this is heading, better forget it.

if you wanted me to post scans, you should have just asked... srug

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Raoul
if you wanted me to post scans, you should have just asked... srug

Well yes that would be nice but I thought you were going to resort to insulting me instead.

Yes please scans would be nice. big grin

cloud102
Deathstroke Terminates Cap.

iceman24567
Originally posted by iceman24567
Slade takes it. In h2h Slade barely wins with gear he wins a strong majority.

Raoul
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well yes that would be nice but I thought you were going to resort to insulting me instead.

Yes please scans would be nice.

ok...

Deathstroke Vs the JLA:

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Deathstroke Vs Green Arrow AND Black Canary

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Badabing
Cap loses 5/10. biscuits

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Badabing
Cap loses 5/10. biscuits

Evil.

Badabing
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Evil. evillaugh I mean durangel

stick out tongue

namorsubby
Originally posted by cloud102
Deathstroke Terminates Cap.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by cloud102
Deathstroke Terminates Cap. I agree son.

Daredevil1
Captain America wins. 6-7/10

Daredevil1
Originally posted by Warrior18
Except Batman and Slade's fights aren't very long at all.Slade beats him rather quickly. sad


Actually Batman give Slade problems and Batgirl record looks very good against Slade as well.

namorsubby
batgirl has had a rather extensive team of formiddable heroes with her and still failed to beat slade........batman has failed with help too. DS is pound for pound the most formiddable for his power set/level. and it's all because of the super-calculating noggin of his. put cap on a team with a few lesser avengers, i still wouldn't count slade out.

Warrior18
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Actually Batman give Slade problems and Batgirl record looks very good against Slade as well.

Initially, right before Slade beats him up. Look at there first fight. I myself am only basing this on two of their fights though.

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Warrior18
Initially, right before Slade beats him up. Look at there first fight. I myself am only basing this on two of their fights though.

The point is that it took a long time and he was serioulsy messed up after that. Batman also said that Cap would beat him in a fight. no expression

Martian_mind
No,he said it was conveivable that Cap could beat him.

Big Difference.

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Martian_mind
No,he said it was conveivable that Cap could beat him.

Big Difference.

The writer confirmed that what batman meant was that Cap was better than him.

Originally posted by Raoul
ok...

Deathstroke Vs the JLA:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/pr1983/scansnstuff/th_IdentityCrisis3pg01.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/pr1983/scansnstuff/th_IdentityCrisis3pg02.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/pr1983/scansnstuff/th_IdentityCrisis3pg03.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/pr1983/scansnstuff/th_IdentityCrisis3pg04.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/pr1983/scansnstuff/th_IdentityCrisis3pg05.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/pr1983/scansnstuff/th_IdentityCrisis3pg06.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/pr1983/scansnstuff/th_IdentityCrisis3pg07.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/pr1983/scansnstuff/th_IdentityCrisis3pg08.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/pr1983/scansnstuff/th_IdentityCrisis3pg09.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/pr1983/scansnstuff/th_IdentityCrisis3pg10.jpg


Deathstroke Vs Green Arrow AND Black Canary

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Ok comparable feats that I can think of is when Cap took on Giant Man and YellowJacket. Sure its only two superheroes but Cap was in a weak body and had no prep. He made Giant Mans body numb with a pressure point, dodged Yellowjackets laser and put him flat on his back with a punch, hell Caps body was so weak that punching Yellowjacket hurt his wrist.

Taking on Black Canary and GA is good but a comparable feat is when Cap took on Black Widow and Diamondback, Cap lost but wasnt thinking clearly because he was high on drugs. Hes also humiliated Black Knight and Starfox in a sparring session.

Warrior18
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
The point is that it took a long time and he was serioulsy messed up after that. Batman also said that Cap would beat him in a fight. no expression

Any fight between Batman and Cap would be an epic multipage probably two issue brawl which Cap would eventually win.

The point is Batman and Slade's fights are not. Look at their first fight, Bats got a few punches and kicks in before being severely beaten. It was very short.

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Warrior18
Any fight between Batman and Cap would be an epic multipage probably two issue brawl which Cap would eventually win.

The point is Batman and Slade's fights are not. Look at their first fight, Bats got a few punches and kicks in before being severely beaten. It was very short.

....again the fight in the respect thread does not show the whole fight. It was not short it was a long fight and DS badly messed up after this.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
The writer confirmed that what batman meant was that Cap was better than him.





Care to provide a link?

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Care to provide a link?

No not really. Ive posted the link wheres hes made this statement at least twice. Silent Master has done the same the problem is sites where he has made this statement have had there content pruned.

I could have a look to see if I can find it again but I doubt it.

Warrior18
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
....again the fight in the respect thread does not show the whole fight. It was not short it was a long fight and DS badly messed up after this.

Really? Those two pages aren't the whole fight?

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Warrior18
Really? Those two pages aren't the whole fight?

Nope.

Warrior18
Do you have the other scans?
It looks pretty complete to me. sad

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Warrior18
Do you have the other scans?
It looks pretty complete to me. sad

*groan* I'll try but dont hold your breath.

Warrior18
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
*groan* I'll try but dont hold your breath.

Wait!!!! I have located them on herochat. big grin

Phantom Zone
LOL ive located them on the Batman capability site. Im posting the fight wether you like it or not durhulk

http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=Bats-Term1a.gif
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9109/Bats-Term2a.gif
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=Bats-Term3a.gif
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=Bats-Term4a.gif
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=Bats-Term5a.gif

Batman gets up. I just though this was cool.



http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=Bats-Term6a.gif

Like I said he was messed up after the fight with Batman.

Lord Feron
Damn batman was outclassed, impressive. Thanks for showing me the whole fight. Still Captain America!

namorsubby
i take it you guys like DS feats:

Deathstroke vs Nightwing, Donna Troy, Batgirl, Jericho and Ravager.......at the same time:
http://i83.imagethrust.com/images/4wHc/view-image/05.html
http://i84.imagethrust.com/images/4wHd/view-image/06.html
http://i84.imagethrust.com/images/4wHe/view-image/07.html
http://i83.imagethrust.com/images/4wHf/view-image/15.html

deathstroke FTW

iceman24567
The couple seconds that Cap gives Deathstroke will be his end I will go out on a limb and say Slade is a better tactician than Cap no expression

Xzpunisher
DS
Even Batman can only fight him to a standstill h2h and cant beat him without Robins help

Not to mention he humiliated the Teen Titans on several occasions

DS wins

Raoul
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
The writer confirmed that what batman meant was that Cap was better than him.



Ok comparable feats that I can think of is when Cap took on Giant Man and YellowJacket. Sure its only two superheroes but Cap was in a weak body and had no prep. He made Giant Mans body numb with a pressure point, dodged Yellowjackets laser and put him flat on his back with a punch, hell Caps body was so weak that punching Yellowjacket hurt his wrist.

Taking on Black Canary and GA is good but a comparable feat is when Cap took on Black Widow and Diamondback, Cap lost but wasnt thinking clearly because he was high on drugs. Hes also humiliated Black Knight and Starfox in a sparring session.

anything else?

Warrior18
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
LOL ive located them on the Batman capability site. Im posting the fight wether you like it or not durhulk

http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=Bats-Term1a.gif
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9109/Bats-Term2a.gif
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=Bats-Term3a.gif
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=Bats-Term4a.gif
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=Bats-Term5a.gif

Batman gets up. I just though this was cool.



http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=Bats-Term6a.gif

Like I said he was messed up after the fight with Batman.

Cheers for posting on principle anyway. big grin

My bad I was mistaken, guess Bats put up a better fight than I thought.

Yeh didn't Slade get beaten by a normal guy as a result of injuries sustained from that fight?

I was pretty much arguing for Cap anyway based on feats.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by Warrior18


I was pretty much arguing for Cap anyway based on feats. Then nobody can beat him. Or Batman for that matter as these two guys have more feats than any street leveler....ever! eek!

cloud102
Deathstroke punked Batman and Nightwing pretty bad in the past. i don't see Cap doing something like that. Even in JLAAvengers, Batman stated that they could go for a while, but eventually lose.

Warrior18
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Then nobody can beat him. Or Batman for that matter as these two guys have more feats than any street leveler....ever! eek!

yes

Daredevil1
Originally posted by cloud102
Deathstroke punked Batman and Nightwing pretty bad in the past. i don't see Cap doing something like that. Even in JLAAvengers, Batman stated that they could go for a while, but eventually lose.

Actually Nightwing has given DeathStroke problems and Batman has defeated Slade as well.

namorsubby
you mean in superman/batman, with one jab?


i'm a huge bat-fan and i can say without a doubt that that was total PIS.

iceman24567
Nightwing should never be more than a bug to Slade the thing is he's tough as hell and his agility makes up for Slade being faster, smarter just as good with combat because we all have seen Slade pounce him plus for some reason Nightwing is better solo than with a team no expression

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Raoul
anything else?

Well what else do you want? The feats ive given are comparable to the two feats you have provided and I have given three examples.


Originally posted by snoopdogg
Then nobody can beat him. Or Batman for that matter as these two guys have more feats than any street leveler....ever! eek!

Im not sure if thats justfied Temugin beats cap and batman in h2h and he hardly has any feats.

cloud102
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Actually Nightwing has given DeathStroke problems and Batman has defeated Slade as well.

Do you have the scans of the Batman one? Only thing I remember is Batman keeping up, but eventually falling. Slade said something like Batman is the toughest foe, but Batman still got beat.

Raoul
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well what else do you want? The feats ive given are comparable to the two feats you have provided and I have given three examples.




Im not sure if thats justfied Temugin beats cap and batman in h2h and he hardly has any feats.

i disagree, given the quality of opponents...

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Raoul
i disagree, given the quality of opponents...

Yeah but I explained that to you. Giant Man and Yellowjacket are not as lethal as the opponents that DS faced but DS had prep and was enhanced at the time. Cap had no prep and was in a weak body, that makes up for the difference and as I explained his body was so weak that he hurt his hand hitting Yellowjacket.

Also are GA and Black Canary better than Black Widow or Diamonback in h2h or Black Knight and Starfox?

The problem you also have is that both Batgirl and Batman have given DS trouble in h2h. Just because hes beaten the JLA in prep doesnt mean hes gets the majority on Cap because street levelers that Cap can beat have given DS severe problems in h2h, which also kinda suggests that if Cap had prep as well he could do the same or Batman for that matter.

edit: and to add Cap has taken on the whole of Batrocs brigade from what I can remember. I dont think GA and Black canary are beating Batroc, Zaran and Razorfist.

Raoul
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah but I explained that to you. Giant Man and Yellowjacket are not as lethal as the opponents that DS faced but DS had prep and was enhanced at the time. Cap had no prep and was in a weak body, that makes up for the difference and as I explained his body was so weak that he hurt his hand hitting Yellowjacket.

enhanced? he was standard ds.

prep? for flash, and maybe canary? sure. not for the atom, hawkman, kyle rayner, zatanna or green arrow...

but ok, cap was weaker, and that has to be taken into consideration, though i still don't think you can say it was as tough...



in h2h? i dun see why they're not at least comparable...



you're overstating the prep he had. significantly.

batman and batgirl give everyone trouble, the same way cap does.

and cap doesn't have deathstroke's brain power. cap wouldnt beat the league without more prep. DS was too fast for them, far too fast for them.



would you happen to have the scans?

Lord Feron
Captain is pretty good with prep or atleast improv planning. Isn't he suppose to be like as good as a 5 star general and all his advisor rolled into one? As far as I know he is one of the best tacticians in MU. So I'm not sure if thast the SS allowing him to be that good or he is just that good but I don't think DS is going to outsmart him.

Juntai
Deathstroke in both.

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Raoul
enhanced? he was standard ds.

Yes thats what I meant. DS was not weak.


Originally posted by Raoul

prep? for flash, and maybe canary? sure. not for the atom, hawkman, kyle rayner, zatanna or green arrow...

but ok, cap was weaker, and that has to be taken into consideration, though i still don't think you can say it was as tough...

I think he had prep for The Atom I dont think that laser pointer is standard equipment.

The problem I have is I really dont see why Cap couldnt do the same if he had prep. Why couldnt Cap do the same to the Flash if he had explosives and he knew where he was going to go and why couldnt he figure that out if he knew him? After all Cap has tagged Quicksilver twice and Quicksilver has been shown to move his body so fast that he can become invisible (thats a Superman like feat). Also Flash doesnt always run FTL speed or light speed for that matter.

Why couldnt he punk Zatanna before she speaks does she have superhuman speed and martial training? Obvoulsy DS punked her despite her power level because she wasnt fast enough. Why couldnt he punk Hawkman? After all Cap with no SSS was able to make Thunderstrike look like a fool.

Furthermore it actually seems like a whole load of CIS and possibly PIS. Why on earth did they all wait in line to get punked by DS? For starters instead of Atom attacking him while DS was fighting other opponents he actually waits for DS to find him so he could get punked. If they all attacked him at once he would have got mullered. We also need to consider that apart from prep he possibly thought about what he was going to do prior to the battle eventhough he can think on the fly as well.

Despite this DS still has problems beating skilled street levelers he might be able to beat JLA with prep but going one-on-one with a skilled MA is another matter.

Originally posted by Raoul

in h2h? i dun see why they're not at least comparable...

Well thats my point. So I dont see why he gets the majority.


Originally posted by Raoul

you're overstating the prep he had. significantly.

Would he be able to beat them without the prep? The answer is no.

Originally posted by Raoul

batman and batgirl give everyone trouble, the same way cap does.


You're missing the point.

Cap>Batman.

If Batman can beat DS so badly why are you giving the majority to somebody superior to Batman.

Originally posted by Raoul

and cap doesn't have deathstroke's brain power. cap wouldnt beat the league without more prep. DS was too fast for them, far too fast for them.

You havent proven that DS brain power gives him the edge. As I explained earlier if Cap had the same prep he could have done the same as well. His brain power didnt stop him from getting badly beaten up by a weaker opponent than Captain America.


Originally posted by Raoul

would you happen to have the scans?

It was in herochats old Cap respect thread, which is no longer there...sorry.

Phantom Zone
*bump*

Harbinger
Deathstroke. Both scenarios.

Kris Blaze
Deathstroke is superior to Cap in almost every way.

Having defeated most of the Teen Titans and most of the league on his own, in addition to having enhanced and/or superhuman physique, as well as his 10x brain power should be more than enough to give him the win here.

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Deathstroke is superior to Cap in almost every way.

Thats funny you said that taskmaster would beat cap for the majority and basically you're evidence failed looks like you're failing again.


Originally posted by Kris Blaze

Having defeated most of the Teen Titans and most of the league on his own, in addition to having enhanced and/or superhuman physique, as well as his 10x brain power should be more than enough to give him the win here.


Beating the Titans could be considered to be PIS. The league has already been explained. No proof has been given that his 10X brain power gives him the advantage over Cap or his stats.

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