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Super spider strength or not, Spider-Man gets his ass beat.

Lol, okay, maybe not as easily as I said, but still, I think Batman would win. He has more training and would take the fight more seriously.

Dear lord! Spider-Man borderline precognition would sense anything coming at him, his super strength and fluid movement would destroy Batman. Batman's good, but that spider-sense costs him this match.

Well, movie Spider-Man's spider sense isn't anything on par with the comic, and going by SM-3 when he's at his peak, he doesn't even have it anymore. The main thing that I think would undo Spider-Man is the fact that he rarely takes his fights seriously, which could allow Batman the chance to win.

Originally posted by Da Joker
Well, movie Spider-Man's spider sense isn't anything on par with the comic, and going by SM-3 when he's at his peak, he doesn't even have it anymore. The main thing that I think would undo Spider-Man is the fact that he rarely takes his fights seriously, which could allow Batman the chance to win.

Which Spider-Man are we using here? Did you see how slow the world moved in his first fight with Flash in SM 1? Yeah... That'll do it.

I want to use Spidey from SM-3 and Batman from TDK. Why use the earlier them when we can use the older them which has more experience.

Originally posted by Da Joker
I want to use Spidey from SM-3 and Batman from TDK. Why use the earlier them when we can use the older them which has more experience.

But one can point out feats achieved in older movies...

Batman never had a plane in TDK, but he had one in the other movies, so does this mean he can't/doesn't have a plane at all, or what?

Batman...



Mourn him!

Batsy is good but he will lose against Spidey's superior speed/strength and plus he will be unable to hit Spidey thanks to the spidersense. Spidey's foes in the movies had atleast some form of super speed and Batsy doesn't

Batman is good in human terms but compared to superheros who aren't streetlevelers or weakminded then he should always lose, but then again being a flagship character ensures him of allot of PIS ridden victory's

But not here, Spidey beats the living daylight out of him

well i believe the movies r crap. batman is fairly smarter than spider man and could probably take 15 men at a time. so it boils down to can batmans technology beat spider mans awsome physical ability. spider man in my opinion has a 80% chance of winning.

In my oppinion there was nothing that indicated Batman was extra ordinairily smart in both Nolan movies, he seems to be just a man with good resources

I think movie Spidey is smarter than Bale-Batman and his technology won't save him

Goblin's tech is pretty similar to movie Batsy's tech and Spidey didn't have much trouble with that so i doubt he will have more trouble with dodging Batsy's tech

Spiderman.

Movie Spider-Man is smarter, faster, stronger, can climb walls and tangle Batman with webs.

Movie Spider-Man never once struck me as being all that smart. Batman, on the other hand, is dealing with technology everday...and did you see the machine he created out of a simple design Lucius made? Batman has always been smarter than Spidey, and he showed that in the movies as well.

No way man, i think he never showed any of his comic counterparts intellegence in the Nolan movies, he has everything handed to him ranging from the antidote to SC's gas to his suit and his car, to me Bruce seemed more of a fighter with a decent technological team behind him ( Lucius Fox and Wayne Enterprise etc )

I mean even most clues where deciphered by Alfred

Originally posted by Da Joker
Movie Spider-Man never once struck me as being all that smart. Batman, on the other hand, is dealing with technology everday...and did you see the machine he created out of a simple design Lucius made? Batman has always been smarter than Spidey, and he showed that in the movies as well.

That's why Dr. Osborn said he was brilliant?

Batman would get his ass kicked, despite his abilities and gear. He may be peak human, but he's still attacking at human speeds. Spiderman could easily dodge any of his attacks and that isn't even factoring in the Spider sense.

You also have factor in the super strength, if this is an all-out fight and Spiderman isn't holding back, one punch or kick would be enough to end it.

So just stop your silly nonsense.

Edit: Just noticed the clown-boy had his account suspended, what he finally do?

As much as I love Batman...Spider sense and spier strength says it all.

Spidey has the ability to dodge anything that Batman will throw at him.

Love Batman

but spiderman wins

Spiderman beats his ass 10/10 times.

Batman and Captain America's PIS-ridden defeat people they have no business defeating aura doesn't fly in debates.

And Batman loses even if he has prep. There, I said it.

spiderman,
hes faster and stronger

Hahaha, do we need any more proof that Da Joker is an irrational fanboy?

I know Batman Survived a 2000 foot free fall that landed with him smashing into a car, but he still isn't a superhuman...,Spiderman is.


Spiderman

Originally posted by Da Joker
Movie Spider-Man never once struck me as being all that smart. Batman, on the other hand, is dealing with technology everday...and did you see the machine he created out of a simple design Lucius made? Batman has always been smarter than Spidey, and he showed that in the movies as well.

Thats why Norman Osborn, CEO of Oscorp and nanotech scientist who co-created Goblin tech and serum which greatly surpasses the technology of Batman's was impressed with Peter being able to understand his work.

That must be also why Dr Curt Connors, Professor of quantum mechanics and future creator of the "lizard" serum describes Peter as "brilliant".

That must also be why Peter was able to predict errors in Dr Otto Octavius' fusion experiment, where Otto himself couldn't. Otto also created his AI tentacles which were unaffected by heat or magnetism.


That must also be why Spiderman was able to beat Sandman (water) and Venom (sound) with wit when his physical abilities were no match or insufficient for a win.

I guess Spiderman isn't that smart after all.

Originally posted by Da Joker
Well, movie Spider-Man's spider sense isn't anything on par with the comic, and going by SM-3 when he's at his peak, he doesn't even have it anymore.

He doesn't have it anymore?

That must be why he dodged the pumpkin bomb Harry threw at him huh?

Also, I hope you realise that Peter's spider-sense doesn't work on Venom.


Originally posted by Da Joker
The main thing that I think would undo Spider-Man is the fact that he rarely takes his fights seriously, which could allow Batman the chance to win.



Must've been playing around when he was fighting for MJ's and his own life against GG.

Must've been playing around when he was fighting for MJ's and his own life against Doc Ock, while trying to prevent his fusion experiment from destroying the city.

Must've been playing around when he was fighting Sandman to avenge his uncle's death.

Must've been playing around when he was fighting for MJ's and his own life against Sandman and Venom.

You have to wonder if the nonsense is due to silly fanboism, having no ability to absorb simple information during a movie or a combination of both?

I think a combination of both, most probably. We all know from the lad's previous posts that he's a reactionary cretin, who thinks he knows more than he does. Remember him in that human super heroes thread in the GDF? That was like retard gold.

Unlike Da Joker I have at least half a brain and know that Spider-Man would kick batmans ass (but Batman is still the best super hero)

Originally posted by Da Joker
he rarely takes his fights seriously

What makes you say that? Because he makes jokes and talks? I believe it was Spider-Man himself who once said that he jokes and talks to suffocate his own nervosity in order to stay focused and fight at his best.

I guess Wayne really didn't know Darkseid like he did.

After that statement, I wouldn't have cared if Supes knocked his head off.

Originally posted by Placidity
I guess Wayne really didn't know Darkseid like he did.

After that statement, I wouldn't have cared if Supes knocked his head off.

And I sat there hoping Batman would slap him while he was at it

Batman probably dies, yeah. But he IS smarter than movie Spider-Man (at least non-scientific smarts), and a much, much more skilled fighter. I'd reckon Spider-Man takes it due to his superhuman reflexes and spider-sense; seriously, Batman is a better H2H combatant (technical skill, not counting Goblin's superhuman strength and all) than anyone Spider-Man ever faced, and I suppose Spider-Man will have to work for the win. But yeah, he should win.

But if given prep, Batman can defeat him.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I think a combination of both, most probably. We all know from the lad's previous posts that he's a reactionary cretin, who thinks he knows more than he does. Remember him in that human super heroes thread in the GDF? That was like retard gold.

In the "Super heroes genetic possibility" one?

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Batman probably dies, yeah. But he IS smarter than movie Spider-Man (at least non-scientific smarts), and a much, much more skilled fighter. I'd reckon Spider-Man takes it due to his superhuman reflexes and spider-sense; seriously, Batman is a better H2H combatant (technical skill, not counting Goblin's superhuman strength and all) than anyone Spider-Man ever faced, and I suppose Spider-Man will have to work for the win. But yeah, he should win.

But if given prep, Batman can defeat him.

Not sure Bale-Batman is smarter, as there hasn't been much indication that he's a super-genius like in the comics.

If the premise is that neither of them is holding back, I can see Spider-Man using a combination of his super speed, reflexes and strength to take out Batman in one or two hits. Not much work in that.

Smarts count, but lets get real. Spidey has super human strength, reflexes, and spider sense. And it's not like he is a retard in tights.

If I were to fight Mike Tyson, sure, I'd bury him in an IQ contest, but would that matter?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mike Tyson, sure, I'd bury him in an IQ contest

Yeah, right.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, right.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure Bale-Batman is smarter, as there hasn't been much indication that he's a super-genius like in the comics.

If the premise is that neither of them is holding back, I can see Spider-Man using a combination of his super speed, reflexes and strength to take out Batman in one or two hits. Not much work in that.

The whole sensor thing in TDK, his understanding of criminal psychology, successfully waging virtually a one-man war on crime while not having any form of superpowers. That takes smarts. He isn't a scientist like Peter, but BatBale is a genius. He's definetly smarter than movie Spider-Man.

And I wouldn't know about that. You do realize Batman isn't stupid and wouldn't just try to take Spider-Man in a direct fist fight? Do you know what Aikido is? Well, just in case you don't, let me tell you; it's basically the martial art of using your opponent's strength against them. Now then, Batman was never explicitly stated to be a used of Aikido, but considering the number of martial arts he knows, it won't seem too unlikely. He won't try to take Spiderman's punches head on- sure, if Spider-Man gets a few good hits in, he can win, but Batman's knowledge of martial arts, peak human physical conditioning, etc, etc, etc, will allow him to last more than a few seconds against Spider-Man. And besides, Spidey was already depicted to be vulnerable to cutting things; Batman can wield a batarang, say, and use it to cut Spider-Man up. Batman is good. Good enough for Spider-Man not to easily dodge every one of his attacks when they brawl.

Spider-Man wins, yes. But it won't be a walk in the park.

Yet still, there was no real indication that he's a super genius, like in the comics (he seems to rely heavily on Fox in the movies). While Spider-Man in the movies has been said to be brilliant and has down some outright brilliant mental feats (I think Placidity pointed them all out).

Aikido, Ninjutsu, Muay Thai, Savate, batarangs or whatever will be all but useless when the punches, kicks and moves Batman is dishing out are coming at 5+ times slower from Spider-mans perspective.

Edit: And I do know what aikido is, I've watched a few of those horrible Segal movies.

What prevents Spider-Man from not webbing webbing webbing Batman into a cocoon and use him as a boxing sack? Sure Batman will dodge in the start, but movie Spider-Man has organic webbing instead of patrons (Point being he wont run out very easily, unless it's at that point in the movie when his spider powers are rebellious) and he can keep going while climbing walls and avoiding all attacks with spider-sense and reflexes.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yet still, there was no real indication that he's a super genius, like in the comics (he seems to rely heavily on Fox in the movies). While Spider-Man in the movies has been said to be brilliant and has down some outright brilliant mental feats (I think Placidity pointed them all out).

Aikido, Ninjutsu, Muay Thai, Savate, batarangs or whatever will be all but useless when the punches, kicks and moves Batman is dishing out are coming at 5+ times slower from Spider-mans perspective.

Edit: And I do know what aikido is, I've watched a few of those horrible Segal movies.

I know it from actual martial arts training (though I don't do it, specifically). :P

Prove that they come '5 times slower' from movie Spider-Man's prespective, please. Because Batman isn't a school thug, like the random guy in Spider-Man 1.

And yeah, Batman is a 'super-genius'. It WAS his idea to implant the sensors within the cellphones, it takes a genius (at least in psychology) to use his intimidation and interrogation tactics to such an effect. I mean, seriously. You have to be really good to be a crazy man in a batsuit and not be lol'd at the moment criminals see you. Yeah, Spider-Man is a better scientist, but that won't help in combat.

And I'm not sure 'useless' against Spider-Man is a good indication; as I've already said, Batman is a far better martial artist than anyone Spidey faced. Movie Spider-Man doesn't seem to be that superhumanely fast, in any case.

Spider-Man wins due to Spider-Sense and webbing abilities. Not due to his super strength.

Originally posted by Robtard
In the "Super heroes genetic possibility" one?

Yeah, that's the one.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon

Prove that they come '5 times slower' from movie Spider-Man's prespective, please. Because Batman isn't a school thug, like the random guy in Spider-Man 1.


The Flash fight pretty shows that Peter percieves normal human speed as slow motion. Sure Batman is much faster than Flash, but not superhumanly fast. Thats how fast Spiderman can act and react.


Originally posted by Master Crimzon

And yeah, Batman is a 'super-genius'. It WAS his idea to implant the sensors within the cellphones

No, it was Fox's idea. Batman extended that idea and made it global. Still very clever I would say, not a "Super-Genius" though. People like Reed Richards deserve that description.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
And I'm not sure 'useless' against Spider-Man is a good indication; as I've already said, Batman is a far better martial artist than anyone Spidey faced. Movie Spider-Man doesn't seem to be that superhumanely fast, in any case.


Lets put this in perspective, do you think martial arts is going to be effective against someone like Green Goblin?
No, a human strength punch would not have the slightest effect except perhaps hurting the attackers own hand.
Spiderman's physical feats match Goblin's and much more.

Spiderman is someone who has has taken a pumpkin bomb to the head, had his head smashed into concrete (breaking it) and punched and kicked around (by another super-strength person) in mid-air like he was a volley-ball and he comes back fighting fit. Do you really think human strength attacks are going to effect him?


Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Spider-Man wins due to Spider-Sense and webbing abilities. Not due to his super strength.

You do realise Spiderman (comic version) is in the 15 ton strength class?

In the movie, I suspect he is probably stronger.

Strength Feats (from the top of my head):

Equal or Stronger than Green Goblin, who
* Lifted a aerial tram/cabin filled with children, with ONE hand.

* Held on to his threads of webbing, eventually stopping a speeding train.

* Held up a large wall surface that was about to fall on MJ.

* Broke through metal razor wire bound around him like it was paper.

* With the Symbiote: Ripped out a storm drain grid effortlessly. Pulled apart a large, thick metal pipe (water pipe).

Now imagine a punch from Spiderman packing that amount of force. It happened to Flash and it sent him literally flying. If it wasn't for PIS, his bones would've all been broken and he would be dead.

Originally posted by Placidity
The Flash fight pretty shows that Peter percieves normal human speed as slow motion. Sure Batman is much faster than Flash, but not superhumanly fast. Thats how fast Spiderman can act and react.

I have a question. Did you ever actually do martial arts in your life?

Let me tell you something. I do martial arts (have done for 9 years), and when I fight a person who is much better than myself (my teacher, for example), he actually fights relatively slowly. However, although I know where his strikes are coming- and although I can move faster- I get hit and get owned by his strikes. Why? Because of his skills. Not strength, no speed, not anything- and Batman is an 'ubwr martial arts expert!', and Spider-Man knows absolutely no form of martial arts. He won't take Spider-Man's strike head on- he'd duck, grab his punch, and throw him across his back, say. He's not stupid. Spider-Man will have to work to get a hit on Batman.

Oh, and when it comes to actual depictions of fighting speed, Batman isn't slow, either. Far from. He also has his gadgets, the cool gauntlet-thing, batarangs, and grapple guns.



Originally posted by Placidity
No, it was Fox's idea. Batman extended that idea and made it global. Still very clever I would say, not a "Super-Genius" though. People like Reed Richards deserve that description.

Reed Richards is a scientific genius. Bruce Wayne is resourceful, very clever, has a working knowledge of psychology and intimidation, etc, etc, etc. Two different types of genius.



Originally posted by Placidity
Lets put this in perspective, do you think martial arts is going to be effective against someone like Green Goblin?
No, a human strength punch would not have the slightest effect except perhaps hurting the attackers own hand.
Spiderman's physical feats match Goblin's and much more.

Spider-Man isn't Superman. He's not invincible, considering he can be cut and bloodied up.

Originally posted by Placidity
Spiderman is someone who has has taken a pumpkin bomb to the head, had his head smashed into concrete (breaking it) and punched and kicked around (by another super-strength person) in mid-air like he was a volley-ball and he comes back fighting fit. Do you really think human strength attacks are going to effect him?

Yes, I do think that, because it's all about technique. Batman won't kick him in the stomach and expect him to fall and die. He'll cut him up, he'll break his nose (which doesn't take much force), he'll break his neck, he'll trip him over, he'll twist his arm. That's the sort of things someone of Batman's caliber would use on Spider-Man.





Originally posted by Placidity
You do realise Spiderman (comic version) is in the 15 ton strength class?

This is movie Spider-Man, not comic Spider-Man. Batman is probably stronger in the comics, too.


Originally posted by Placidity
In the movie, I suspect he is probably stronger.

Strength Feats (from the top of my head):

Equal or Stronger than Green Goblin, who
* Lifted a aerial tram/cabin filled with children, with ONE hand.

* Held on to his threads of webbing, eventually stopping a speeding train.

* Held up a large wall surface that was about to fall on MJ.

* Broke through metal razor wire bound around him like it was paper.

* With the Symbiote: Ripped out a storm drain grid effortlessly. Pulled apart a large, thick metal pipe (water pipe).

Now imagine a punch from Spiderman packing that amount of force. It happened to Flash and it sent him literally flying. If it wasn't for PIS, his bones would've all been broken and he would be dead.

Batman will not take Spider-Man's attacks head-on. He'll probably eventually get hit, yes, but it won't be easy from Spider-Man to lay a hit on him.

You're "Da Joker" in hiding aren't you?

No, 'cuz I said that Spider-Man WILL beat Batman... just that he'll have difficulty doing it.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Batman will not take Spider-Man's attacks head-on. He'll probably eventually get hit, yes, but it won't be easy from Spider-Man to lay a hit on him.
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
No, 'cuz I said that Spider-Man WILL beat Batman... just that he'll have difficulty doing it.



Dude, stop spouting nonsense and think objectively for a second, he'd get hit as soon (which would be very early in the fight) as Spider-Man was in punch of kick range, possibly even further since his webbing can travel long distances. Also, it'd only take one punch, kick or slap to end Batman with the strength-level Spider-Man is at.

We're talking about a peak-level human with an amazingly high expertise in fighting vs a super-human who can lift 10+ tons (grossly underestimated), react at 5 (grossly underestimated) times human speeds, has agility levels about olympic champions, shoots webbing that is stronger than steel and has a built in early warning system.

This fight would be over in a matter of minutes if not seconds.

I thought you watched Spider-man, but here's the proof you asked for:
BvCy-SaA67k

Starts @ 00:50

Even though Batman isn't shown punching/attacking all that much faster than Flash, I'll concede that Batman does attack faster (though still within human range) than Flash and Batman has far superior moves, but what does that matter when Spider-man can react to any move of Batman's like they were coming at him in slow motion?

Originally posted by Robtard
Dude, stop spouting nonsense and think objectively for a second,

I do. Note how I said Spider-Man would beat Batman. If I 'wasn't' objective, I would've said Batman woulda pwned Spider-Man. I didn't.

Originally posted by Robtard
he'd get hit as soon (which would be very early in the fight) as Spider-Man was in punch of kick range, possibly even further since his webbing can travel long distances. Also, it'd only take one punch, kick or slap to end Batman with the strength-level Spider-Man is at.

Yes, I agree that one solid hit is all that would take to make Batman a dead man. But... how easily can Spider-Man get a hit in?

1. The batarangs can no doubt cut the webbing, so if Batman wields one of them as a melee weapon, he can- theoretically- use them to cut webs and free himself from Spider-Man's grip.

2. The gauntlet knives move. If he utilizes them on Spider-Man in melee range, do you really think that Spider-Man could dodge them? In point-blank range. I highly doubt it.

3. Even if Spider-Man does get a hit in, Batman's extensive expertise in many, many forms of martial arts, peak human reflexes/strength/speed, will potentially allow him to reduce the brunt of the hit through some moves. If so, his armor can- once again, in theory- cushion some of the impact of Spider-Man's strikes.

4. The martial arts. But I don't think I need to say more than I did already.

Originally posted by Robtard
We're talking about a peak-level human with an amazingly high expertise in fighting vs a super-human who can lift 10+ tons (grossly underestimated), react at 5 (grossly underestimated) times human speeds, has agility levels about olympic champions, shoots webbing that is stronger than steel and has a built in early warning system.

His agility, webbing, and spider-sense will grant him the win. But he won't 'uber own!' Batman any time soon, because of Batman's gadgets, intelligence, and martial arts skills.

Say, put the world's greatest martial artist- if that one is not particularly physically fit- against a bodybuilder. Do you really think the bodybuilder will easily get a full hit in? I doubt it.

Originally posted by Robtard
This fight would be over in a matter of minutes if not seconds.

Minutes? Yes. Seconds? Nope.

Originally posted by Da Joker
Well, movie Spider-Man's spider sense isn't anything on par with the comic, and going by SM-3 when he's at his peak, he doesn't even have it anymore. The main thing that I think would undo Spider-Man is the fact that he rarely takes his fights seriously, which could allow Batman the chance to win.
No. Batman, RIP...

Batman couldn't match Spider-Man in an even fight.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Batman couldn't match Spider-Man in an even fight.

Nah, probably not. But I think I've posted enough reason as to why I don't think Spider-Man will own him in a few seconds.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
His agility, webbing, and spider-sense will grant him the win. But he won't 'uber own!' Batman any time soon, because of Batman's gadgets, intelligence, and martial arts skills.

Say, put the world's greatest martial artist- if that one is not particularly physically fit- against a bodybuilder. Do you really think the bodybuilder will easily get a full hit in? I doubt it.

Minutes? Yes. Seconds? Nope.

The gadgets, intelligence and combatant skills will count for very little when Spider-man is super-levels of speed, reaction time and agility above and beyond Batman's capabilities. Batman isn't going to out-think a punch or kick coming at super speeds, did you watch that video clip? Humans are in slow motion (in comparison) when Spider-man is on alert/attack mode.

Your analogy is faulty and rather stupid, Spider-man is super-human, key word "super". Refer back to his feats if you have to.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Nah, probably not. But I think I've posted enough reason as to why I don't think Spider-Man will own him in a few seconds.

Only way it'd take minutes is if they started at a considerable distance and it took Spider-man minutes to reach Batman, once within striking range, it'd be one hit and Batman would either be dead on incapacitated.

Originally posted by Robtard
The gadgets, intelligence and combatant skills will count for very little when Spider-man is super-levels of speed, reaction time and agility above and beyond Batman's capabilities. Batman isn't going to out-think a punch or kick coming at super speeds, did you watch that video clip? Humans are in slow motion (in comparison) when Spider-man is on alert/attack mode.

Your analogy is faulty and rather stupid, Spider-man is super-human, key word "super". Refer back to his feats if you have to.



Only way it'd take minutes is if they started at a considerable distance and it took Spider-man minutes to reach Batman, once within striking range, it'd be one hit and Batman would either be dead on incapacitated.

Spider-Man's actual strikes and blows are never depicted to be superhumanely fast, now, are they? No. Yes, he has 'uber reflexes', 'uber reaction speed', etc, etc, etc, but as I've already said, these advantages are reduced, due to the fact that Batman's martial arts enable him not necessarily to take the full brunt of the blows, but use Spider-Man's actual strength against him.

Again, defending is faster than attacking. And I'll give you a scenario;

Batman fights Spider-Man. Spider-Man punches him, Batman uses his martial arts skills and his suit's protection in order to weaken the impact of the punch, but nontheless collapses. Spider-Man comes over him, Batman uses the flying knives on him. Y'see, Spider-Man won't kick him once and Batman will die. Batman is also fast, strong, has excellent endurance, has gadgets that can injure Spider-Man, and has martial arts skills that enable him to not necessarily take Spidey's punches head-on.

Seriously. The face that Spider-Man is an 'OMG SUPERHUMAN!' doesn't give him a victory 10/10 times, especially when Batman is a far more resourceful and skilled combatant.

Doc Oc in II should have had his face crushed in by Spiderman's punches...but yet he didn't. Doesn't make sense.

So, it's very possible that due to the necessity of plot, Batman would not be knocked out by Piderman's punches. Hell, I don't think I would even be knocked out by a Spiderman punch.

Don't believe me?

K...

You have an overweight scientist who doesn't do anything but work on his masterpiece...doesn't train his head to take impacts, doesn't work out, etc. Oh, and he's closing in on 50.


If we were to be real about this, Batman would get totally raped without much effort from Spiderman.


Originally posted by Robtard
Only way it'd take minutes is if they started at a considerable distance and it took Spider-man minutes to reach Batman, once within striking range, it'd be one hit and Batman would either be dead on incapacitated.

Incumasturbated, actually.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Nah, probably not. But I think I've posted enough reason as to why I don't think Spider-Man will own him in a few seconds.

Well, Batman is very good, he might keep up for a while.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Spider-Man's actual strikes and blows are never depicted to be superhumanely fast, now, are they? No. Yes, he has 'uber reflexes', 'uber reaction speed', etc, etc, etc, but as I've already said, these advantages are reduced, due to the fact that Batman's martial arts enable him not necessarily to take the full brunt of the blows, but use Spider-Man's actual strength against him.

Again, defending is faster than attacking. And I'll give you a scenario;

Batman fights Spider-Man. Spider-Man punches him, Batman uses his martial arts skills and his suit's protection in order to weaken the impact of the punch, but nontheless collapses. Spider-Man comes over him, Batman uses the flying knives on him. Y'see, Spider-Man won't kick him once and Batman will die. Batman is also fast, strong, has excellent endurance, has gadgets that can injure Spider-Man, and has martial arts skills that enable him to not necessarily take Spidey's punches head-on.

Seriously. The face that Spider-Man is an 'OMG SUPERHUMAN!' doesn't give him a victory 10/10 times, especially when Batman is a far more resourceful and skilled combatant.

Did you watch the video? He is moving and reacting like Flash is in slow motion. They wouldn't be reduced due to Batman's skills, he's simply too slow to make a difference.

Your scenario is nothing more than silly Batmania. His suit barely stops bullets and direct knife hits (as stated by Fox), it certainly isn't going to protect from a blow with the force of 10+ tons dispersed around the area of a human fist, ie Spider-man could literally punch through Batman if he's going all out.

Yeah, 10/10 sounds about right, as he isn't just a little bit stronger, faster and more agile (+ that whole Spider-sense thing and webbing you conveniently don't factor in), he's high super-human levels stronger, faster and more agile.

Who has Batman ever fought in the movies that is comparable to Spider-Man?

-AC

Originally posted by dadudemon
Doc Oc in II should have had his face crushed in by Spiderman's punches...but yet he didn't. Doesn't make sense. .

You realize that like in the comics, Spider-man holds back as not to kill anyone. That or Doc Oc was somehow super resilient as Spider-man has shown his strength throughout the three films.

It's always been proposed that his strength is applied as needed.

Plus, it's a movie.

Hulk could have killed Blonsky and Ross if he wanted, but then we'd have no movie. Batman could have killed Joker, Superman could have iced Luthor etc.

-AC

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
I have a question. Did you ever actually do martial arts in your life?

Let me tell you something. I do martial arts (have done for 9 years), and when I fight a person who is much better than myself (my teacher, for example), he actually fights relatively slowly. However, although I know where his strikes are coming- and although I can move faster- I get hit and get owned by his strikes. Why? Because of his skills. Not strength, no speed, not anything- and Batman is an 'ubwr martial arts expert!', and Spider-Man knows absolutely no form of martial arts. He won't take Spider-Man's strike head on- he'd duck, grab his punch, and throw him across his back, say. He's not stupid. Spider-Man will have to work to get a hit on Batman.



Your logic is faulty because the difference in speed between you and your sensei are not that great. Spiderman however, has bullet dodging speed. The ratio of Peter's speed compared to Bruce's is far greater then yours compared to your sensei.

Realistically, Spiderman's attacks and defense are faster then your mind can really comprehend. That being the case, Captain America and Bruce being able to hang strickly due to "martia arts skillz" is PIS.

Originally posted by Robtard
You realize that like in the comics, Spider-man holds back as not to kill anyone. That or Doc Oc was somehow super resilient as Spider-man has shown his strength throughout the three films.


Even regular "normal" human punches should have knocked that guy waaaay the f*** out. In the movie, Doc Ocs head is flying all over the place, yet, he doesn't see stars.

Originally posted by Robtard
Did you watch the video? He is moving and reacting like Flash is in slow motion. They wouldn't be reduced due to Batman's skills, he's simply too slow to make a difference.

Your scenario is nothing more than silly Batmania. His suit barely stops bullets and direct knife hits (as stated by Fox), it certainly isn't going to protect from a blow with the force of 10+ tons dispersed around the area of a human fist, ie Spider-man could literally punch through Batman if he's going all out.

Yeah, 10/10 sounds about right, as he isn't just a little bit stronger, faster and more agile (+ that whole Spider-sense thing and webbing you conveniently don't factor in), he's high super-human levels stronger, faster and more agile.

Well, considering you're completely refusing to directly counter any of my points and instead going on and on and on about how Spidey is uberz, this is ridiculous. You conveniently don't factor in yourself the fact that Bruce has peak human reflexes, speed, and physical strength, and that Spider-Man's punches are rarely actually seen to be moving at superhuman speed. Batman is more skilled, has his suit, has his bladed weapons, and so forth. Seriously. You don't need to be insanely fast (which Batman is, by human standards) in order to block punches.

Ok lets put it this way your on a dark road and a motorcycle comes by at 220 mph and its 2 mtrs away from you. block that, you can't because your to slow to react to it

Same goes for spideys hits

Spider-Man wins easily.

Originally posted by Placidity
* Broke through metal razor wire bound around him like it was paper.

When was that?

In Harry's room after Doc Oc deliveries him unconscious and bound.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Well, considering you're completely refusing to directly counter any of my points and instead going on and on and on about how Spidey is uberz, this is ridiculous. You conveniently don't factor in yourself the fact that Bruce has peak human reflexes, speed, and physical strength, and that Spider-Man's punches are rarely actually seen to be moving at superhuman speed. Batman is more skilled, has his suit, has his bladed weapons, and so forth. Seriously. You don't need to be insanely fast (which Batman is, by human standards) in order to block punches.

This is one of my favorite tactics, the claim that points haven't been countered when they have been repeatedly.

That video proves just how fast Spider-Man is, which is extreme levels above what Batman could produce. Stop ignoring what is seen in the video.

What is hypocritically hilarious and shows your bias, you claim we never see Spider-Man perform feats of speed (which we actually do), yet the same can be said of Batman in the film.

Little anecdotes of your martial arts training don't count for shit either, as we're talking about a super powered being. Even if Batman could block a punch, he'd have his arm shattered. Remember all those strength feats of Spider-Man's?

Originally posted by Robtard
This is one of my favorite tactics, the claim that points haven't been countered when they have been repeatedly.

And aside from going on and on again about how Spidey is super, you refuse to to counter any bloody thing about Batman's gadgets (which he can use in close-quarters combat), and thus forth.

Originally posted by Robtard
That video proves just how fast Spider-Man is, which is extreme levels above what Batman could produce. Stop ignoring what is seen in the video.

Spider-Man can utterly outclass flash, a person without any sort of advanced physical conditioning or any sort of martial arts training. Sure, Spider-Man is probably faster than Batman, but, seriously. He won't be able to outclass him nearly as badly as you claim he could (particularly with that new suit that gives him a high level of speed).

Originally posted by Robtard
What is hypocritically hilarious and shows your bias, you claim we never see Spider-Man perform feats of speed (which we actually do), yet the same can be said of Batman in the film.

You're right about this. We haven't seen Batman move at anything other than above average human speed (though, as far as I can remember, he did dodge these bullets in the Hong Kong fight scene). However, we do know that Batman has near-superhuman physical conditioning, training, stealth levels, martial arts experience, and therefore, it is logical to assume that he IS fast.

Oh, and beating up ninja who aren't dressed in cumbersome (as proven by TDK) suit of armor and outclassing them in every department is not impressive? Please.


Originally posted by Robtard
Little anecdotes of your martial arts training don't count for shit either, as we're talking about a super powered being. Even if Batman could block a punch, he'd have his arm shattered. Remember all those strength feats of Spider-Man's?

Batman will not friggin' put his arm in front of the punch. While I will concede that Spider-Man's physical attributes are considerably above Batman's, Batman isn't a slouch, either. He's arguably one of the greatest fictional human martial artists of all time, has extensive training in all sorts of martial arts, and has incredible levels of physical conditioning. He also has some more lethal gadgets, like the blades on his arms, and has a suit that can cushion the impact of some of his blows (lean slightly out, pull off some sort of complex defense, and the punch cannot deal the full extent of its damage).

Spider-Man isn't gonna punch Batman and kill him with one effin' punch.

Originally posted by Robtard
In Harry's room after Doc Oc deliveries him unconscious and bound.

Oh yeah! Forgot about that one.

The gadgets like the spikes and whatnot, do you think Spider-Man is going to have a hard time dodging those? Exactly.

Batman is still within human limits, which you fail to see would be his (rather quick) undoing when facing someone of Spider-Man's speed. agility and strength levels.

Yes, I happy to assume Batman is peak human and is a total badass, but we factually do see how fast Spider-Man's reflexes are and what his strength level is at.

You're the one that said he would block, so how he's going to block, if not his body?

I said he'd either kill him or incapacitate him with one punch/kick, either way, it's over that quick.

Originally posted by Robtard
The gadgets like the spikes and whatnot, do you think Spider-Man is going to have a hard time dodging those? Exactly.

Batman is still within human limits, which you fail to see would be his (rather quick) undoing when facing someone of Spider-Man's speed. agility and strength levels.

Yes, I happy to assume Batman is peak human and is a total badass, but we factually do see how fast Spider-Man's reflexes are and what his strength level is at.

You're the one that said he would block, so how he's going to block, if not his body?

I said he'd either kill him or incapacitate him with one punch/kick, either way, it's over that quick.

If they get tangled up in melee combat, how the hell do you think Spider-Man will dodge a quick strike using the knives on Batman's gauntlet? He's not going to be able to.

Seriously, man. The fact that Spider-Man is an uber superhuman being does not grant him necessary victory in combat. And considering neither of us are going to concede the point, I think it's best if we 'agree to disagree'.

You are an unbelievably stupid fanboy.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
If they get tangled up in melee combat, how the hell do you think Spider-Man will dodge a quick strike using the knives on Batman's gauntlet? He's not going to be able to.

Seriously, man. The fact that Spider-Man is an uber superhuman being does not grant him necessary victory in combat. And considering neither of us are going to concede the point, I think it's best if we 'agree to disagree'.

Batman can't even touch him....

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
If they get tangled up in melee combat, how the hell do you think Spider-Man will dodge a quick strike using the knives on Batman's gauntlet? He's not going to be able to.

Seriously, man. The fact that Spider-Man is an uber superhuman being does not grant him necessary victory in combat. And considering neither of us are going to concede the point, I think it's best if we 'agree to disagree'.

By using his super-human reflexes combined with his "spider-sense". It's getting extremely pathetic for you to ignore that fact. Shall I post the video again?

The difference:

My point of view is backed up with comic/movie/character facts.

Your point of view isn't.

Since this is movie Batman, I don't see any sort of gadgets or skils that he has that could match the superpowers of Spider Man.

Of course Comic Batman would rip him a new one, but that's beside the point.

Originally posted by Robtard
By using his super-human reflexes combined with his "spider-sense". It's getting extremely pathetic for you to ignore that fact. Shall I post the video again?

The difference:

My point of view is backed up with comic/movie/character facts.

Your point of view isn't.

Did you forget that I said that Spider-Man will win using his superhuman reflexes and spider-sense? Lol. My point is view is very much backed up by comic/movie/character facts. Actually, my point of view (unlike your's) is taking ONLY the movie into account.

Oh, and Bardock, do you think that comic Batman will beat comic Spider-Man? I didn't see that much of a difference between movie and comic Batman.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon

Oh, and Bardock, do you think that comic Batman will beat comic Spider-Man? I didn't see that much of a difference between movie and comic Batman.

Y-you didn't see that much difference between comic and movie Batman.


Well, for one movie Batman didn't beat the shit out of the Hyperclan alone.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Did you forget that I said that Spider-Man will win using his superhuman reflexes and spider-sense? Lol. My point is view is very much backed up by comic/movie/character facts. Actually, my point of view (unlike your's) is taking ONLY the movie into account.



You also said his strength wouldn't be a factor, you've flipped-flopped on Spider-Man winning from time to time, you brought in your 9 years of martial arts anecdotes, basically, you've said a lot on silly shit.

Do tell me how my point of view isn't based on the film, when the points I've argued I based from scenes in the film? Go on, point it out.

Originally posted by Robtard
You also said his strength wouldn't be a factor, you've flipped-flopped on Spider-Man winning from time to time, you brought in your 9 years of martial arts anecdotes, basically, you've said a lot on silly shit.

Do tell me how my point of view isn't based on the film, when the points I've argued I based from scenes in the film? Go on, point it out.

"We're talking about a peak-level human with an amazingly high expertise in fighting vs a super-human who can lift 10+ tons (grossly underestimated), react at 5 (grossly underestimated) times human speeds, has agility levels about olympic champions, shoots webbing that is stronger than steel and has a built in early warning system."

Using facts from the comic books. Even you admitted to using the comic books in your argument.

Oh, and I'm sorry if I came out looking a different way, but I do believe Spider-Man should take a definitive majority. But, seriously. What's so hard to see about him having to work for the win?

Everything I claimed of Spider-Man was shown in the movies, strength, speed and agility. I even grossly underestimated them for the sake of argument.

Yes, when the comic facts coincide with the movie(s).

As stated by the thread starter (who is an idiot, but that's another matter), they'd be going all out and using their powers to full potential. Ergo, Spider-Man wins this rather quick and easily.

Originally posted by Da Joker
They fight in an all out brawl and use all of their strength, weapons, webbing, etc.

http://www.talkingpix.co.uk/Spiderman1comp.jpg

VS

http://www.crossfitcentraled.ca/blog/wp-content/batman_l.jpg

Super spider strength or not, Spider-Man gets his ass beat.

Lol, okay, maybe not as easily as I said, but still, I think Batman would win. He has more training and would take the fight more seriously.


stop being so fanboyish





Spidey ftw even without the webs and spider sense

Originally posted by Robtard
Everything I claimed of Spider-Man was shown in the movies, strength, speed and agility. I even grossly underestimated them for the sake of argument.

Yes, when the comic facts coincide with the movie(s).

As stated by the thread starter (who is an idiot, but that's another matter), they'd be going all out and using their powers to full potential. Ergo, Spider-Man wins this rather quick and easily.

I think we can agree to disagree here. I think Spidey will win with difficulty. You think Spidey will win easily. Point is? We both think Spider-Man will win.

You are saying he'd win with difficulty so you can feel better about Batman losing.

Either way, you're admitting he'd lose, why does it matter if it's with or without a decent fight? If anything it's better to say Batman just wouldn't have a chance than to say he'd give it his best and still lose.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You are saying he'd win with difficulty so you can feel better about Batman losing.

Either way, you're admitting he'd lose, why does it matter if it's with or without a decent fight? If anything it's better to say Batman just wouldn't have a chance than to say he'd give it his best and still lose.

-AC

Exactly my point. There's no use DEBATING this, because we all (except for Da Joker) think Spidey will win.

Spidey wins since Batman's Jobber Aura from the comics is not at his disposal.

Originally posted by Da Joker
Super spider strength or not, Spider-Man gets his ass beat. Wrong if Spider-Man is going all-out Batman IS the one who will get his *** beat. He can't keep up with Spider-Man. Spider-Man should kill Batman with a couple punches. Batman has nothing in his limited arsenal that could effect Spider-Man, and if it could he'd have a **** of a time trying to tag Spider-Man with it. Again Spider-Man's webbing >>> anything Batman has.

Don't get me wrong Batman is my favorite comic-book character and Nolan/Bale franchise>>>>Raimi/Maguire franchise. But if you know me I don't judge who would win these fights with bias. I take it seriouisly, and if you do that, all bull****/PIS/CIS aside........

Spider-Man 10/10.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Wrong if Spider-Man is going all-out Batman IS the one who will get his *** beat. He can't keep up with Spider-Man. Spider-Man should kill Batman with a couple punches. Batman has nothing in his limited arsenal that could effect Spider-Man, and if it could he'd have a **** of a time trying to tag Spider-Man with it. Again Spider-Man's webbing >>> anything Batman has.

Don't get me wrong Batman is my favorite comic-book character and Nolan/Bale franchise>>>>Raimi/Maguire franchise. But if you know me I don't judge who would win these fights with bias. I take it seriouisly, and if you do that, all bull****/PIS/CIS aside........

Spider-Man 10/10.

Correct.

Lol someone mentioned Batarangs earlier...

Try Razor (Goblin) Bats?

Originally posted by Placidity
Lol someone mentioned Batarangs earlier...

Try Razor (Goblin) Bats?

With homing capabilities!

In the realm of fiction, I think a superhuman will always beat a guy with gadgets. A perfect example was when Mace killed Jango.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
In the realm of fiction, I think a superhuman will always beat a guy with gadgets. A perfect example was when Mace killed Jango.

Nah, Batman beat his fair share of Superhumans. So did, Jango Fett and The Punisher.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
In the realm of fiction, I think a superhuman will always beat a guy with gadgets. A perfect example was when Mace killed Jango.

Tell that to Clayface, Freeze, Bane and all the other happy fellows

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
In the realm of fiction, I think a superhuman will always beat a guy with gadgets. A perfect example was when Mace killed Jango.

Considering Jango defeated multiple Jedi Knights using only his fists, and defeated Dooku's dark side apparentice by himself in a one-on-one fight... all I can do is lulz.

Realistically, a superhuman should always beat a guy with gadgets.

^ Except someone like Ironman.

Also depends on the level of "super-humaness", which in this case, Spiderman exceeds this level by far.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Considering Jango defeated multiple Jedi Knights using only his fists, and defeated Dooku's dark side apparentice by himself in a one-on-one fight... all I can do is lulz.

Realistically, a superhuman should always beat a guy with gadgets.

Well, Kingpin was able to beat Spider-Man heads up. It depends a lot on individuals when it comes to a matter of this sort.

Spider-Man would beat Batman, because Batman has nothing on Spider-Man. Kingpin has an unnatural endurance, strength and durability. He could take the punches and just get back up again.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Considering Jango defeated multiple Jedi Knights using only his fists, and defeated Dooku's dark side apparentice by himself in a one-on-one fight... all I can do is lulz.

Realistically, a superhuman should always beat a guy with gadgets. It certainly depends on the amount of superhumanity.

Jango fett beat several Jedi's at once, using only his fists...,when and where?

That sounds like something George Lucas would write.

Have some people forgotten that in TDK Batman's suit/armour was penetrated by a dog at some point?

Batman is curbstomped by Spider-Man.

Originally posted by Becci
Well, Kingpin was able to beat Spider-Man heads up.



Kingpin is superhuman...

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Kingpin is superhuman...

Wilson Fisk is not. He's just abnormally big and he works out.

Abnormally big? You mean... he's above averagely large? He has strength that is above a humans? He's actually a class-six, I believe.

hm...

Irregardless,

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/blaxican_templar/AmazingSpider-Man542-016.jpg

Any time this doesn't happen when Peter fights Kingpin, it's either PIS or Peter is holding back.

I think at one point comics said Kingpin was part mutant or some shit, he's just too strong and too big. Then again, in the movie universe, Kingpin as just a tall, semi-big black guy.

COnsidering Kingpin can like... lift cars and shit, he is Superhuman.

Though they are right that he "officially" isn't Superhuman. According to Marvel's definition he isn't superhuman. By normal definitions he is though.

Really, when people have skill, intelligence, creativity, and power, they can defeat a superhuman- and if you consider lifting a car 'superhuman', then I'm sure you would consider some of comic Batman's feats 'superhuman', as well.

Occasionally, I would say that a 'regular' human can defeat a superhuman. Not always, though.

And Kingpin's physical power is often ridiculous. Lol.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Really, when people have skill, intelligence, creativity, and power, they can defeat a superhuman- and if you consider lifting a car 'superhuman', then I'm sure you would consider some of comic Batman's feats 'superhuman', as well.

Occasionally, I would say that a 'regular' human can defeat a superhuman. Not always, though.

And Kingpin's physical power is often ridiculous. Lol.

So how would an average joe like you or me ever beat Superman, the Incredible Hulk, or the Emperor (Star Wars)?

Not, because they're extreme levels of superhuman. You may, say, be able to beat a 'minor' superhuman being like Killer Croc, for instance. Batman displays that.

Superman and Hulk are incredibly powerful; so is the Emperor. But all the things I listed can compensate against minor superhumans.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
So how would an average joe like you or me ever beat Superman, the Incredible Hulk, or the Emperor (Star Wars)? Well, it's not what you said earlier. But I suppose even in most fiction a superhuman way, way, way out of a normal humans league, usually wins.

Point is, Spider-man vastly outclasses Batman in every physical ability and then some.

The only way Batman might win is if we are discussing the Comic Batman and he is given sufficient prep time.

Movie Batman gets his ass kicked regardless of prep time. Also, OP stated that this is a all-out "brawl", which in this case, Batman gets his head punched his shoulders.

Wow this got to 6 pages.....

Originally posted by Placidity
Point is, Spider-man vastly outclasses Batman in every physical ability and then some.

The only way Batman might win is if we are discussing the Comic Batman and he is given sufficient prep time.

Movie Batman gets his ass kicked regardless of prep time. Also, OP stated that this is a all-out "brawl", which in this case, Batman gets his head punched his shoulders.

Meh. It's not like movie Spider-Man is on par with the comics more than Batman is.

Though, yes, Spider-Man will sadly claim victory over the Dark Knight.

Spiderman wins.

Though Batman with prep could just...You know...Own Spidey with the Batmobile.

The Batmobile... what?

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
The Batmobile... what? People were saying with prep Batman could not beat Spiderman. With prep, he could just take down Spiderman with the batmobile.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
COnsidering Kingpin can like... lift cars and shit, he is Superhuman.

He never lifted a car.

Yeah, seriously, when the hell has Kingpin lifted a car?

Originally posted by Blinky
Have some people forgotten that in TDK Batman's suit/armour was penetrated by a dog at some point?

Batman is curbstomped by Spider-Man.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
People were saying with prep Batman could not beat Spiderman. With prep, he could just take down Spiderman with the batmobile. not really.Spider-man spider senes would help out with that

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
not really.Spider-man spider senes would help out with that ...How?

So he can sense it...How will that help him from being pulverived by its many weapons?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
...How?

So he can sense it...How will that help him from being pulverived by its many weapons?

Because he's fast enough to dodge bullets, maybe?

Originally posted by Robtard
Because he's fast enough to dodge bullets, maybe?


Too true, not only is he fast enough to dodge Batman's gadgetry but he's just plain faster than Batman altogether, which means that Spidey wouldn't have to let Batman do anything at all, he could just web him up pull him towards himself, and beat the Batshit out of Batman, until Robin said Holy batarangs or something cheesy like that.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because he's fast enough to dodge bullets, maybe? Show me Spiderman from the movies dodging a bullet after it has been fired.

He didn't to my memory.

Let alone dual-machinegun fire.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Show me Spiderman from the movies dodging a bullet after it has been fired.

He didn't to my memory.

Let alone dual-machinegun fire.

His reaction time was so great that a fly's wings were beating super-slow and the spit-wade was barely moving by comparison. So yeah, his reaction time is more than enough.

The dual fire wouldn't matter either way, he could very well stand between both lines of fire.

The turrets can move as seen in TDK.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
The turrets can move as seen in TDK.

Still won't matter when Spider-Man is dodging, jumping and swinging around. He could also easily manuever his way onto the roof of that thing and use his webbing to anchor it down. He also could flip it over and/or pick it up and slam it into the ground or a nearby wall or vehicle.

Why is Spiderman fighting Batman while he is inside of the Batmoblie? I thought this was Spiderman vs Batman, not Spiderman vs Batman and his car.

Because everyone knows that Batman without prep would lose 10/10 on foot.

Duh.

But people were saying even with prep Batman loses.

But Batman with prep gets too much resources.

And Batman with prep never loses.

FACT.

but the op never stated that either of them had prep time, which means that Batman gets handled, because lets face it, physically he's way out of his league here. Imagine this if you will, someone that was able to lift 10+ tons punching a man as hard as he could in the face (according to the rules of this thread) Batman's head would fly off of his body.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Duh.

But people were saying even with prep Batman loses.

But Batman with prep gets too much resources.

And Batman with prep never loses.

FACT.

Then make a scenario of what Batman does with prep to win.