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team get 2 weeks prep

who wins?

Given the DOV showing, team 1 dominates for a while, and then is turned into a Shih-tsu by the Spectre.

spectre would win. even collectively, the marvel team is really nothing in comparison to the degree of magical prowess a hostless spectre faced, and overcame, during DoV. the likes of the greatly amped captain marvel, wizard shazam, phantom stranger, nabu, etc. - are quite often underrated amongst the forums. meh.

You don't prep against Spectre. You delay the inevitable, and pray. galan_spectre

With prep the team easily wins.

Kinda hard to say, with prep time the team could bring out some pretty big power. Could Thanos maybe act as a more effective avatar for something stronger than Zom?

2 weeks mean the team can get their hands on something like the IG or another very powerful item?
In that case they can win.

If they fight under their own powers even with 2 weeks prep they die horrible deaths.

Originally posted by quanchi112
With prep the team easily wins.

Give me a break. It's the friggin' Spectre. If Thanos can lose to anyone from DC and not lose face, it's him. Shazam+Capt. Marvel+Phantom Stranger+Nabu+Lords of Order and Chaos>Thanos. Not my op., just truth.

Originally posted by tsscls
Give me a break. It's the friggin' Spectre. If Thanos can lose to anyone from DC and not lose face, it's him. Shazam+Capt. Marvel+Phantom Stranger+Nabu+Lords of Order and Chaos>Thanos. Not my op., just truth. With prep they would easily defeat the Spectre. Thanos has done more impressive things than this brainwashed Spectre. This thread is spite. Three prep gods vs. one confused Spectre. They take this...easily.

So by your logic--
Doom>Shazam
Dr. Strange>Nabu w/no host
Thanos>Phantom Stranger and the rest
Talk slowly for the stupid (me) because all of these beings had plenty of prep. for God's Vengeance, seeing as how they were trying to forge a new vessel in which to house it, but they all failed. And please don't try to portray PS as a lightweight as I have seen done in the past. His feats might be lacking, but his seemingly infinite knowledge and foresight give him a leg up over any of the Marvel guys, even Thanos for whom I have the utmost respect.

Originally posted by tsscls
So by your logic--
Doom>Shazam
Dr. Strange>Nabu w/no host
Thanos>Phantom Stranger and the rest
Talk slowly for the stupid (me) because all of these beings had plenty of prep. for God's Vengeance, seeing as how they were trying to forge a new vessel in which to house it, but they all failed. And please don't try to portray PS as a lightweight as I have seen done in the past. His feats might be lacking, but his seemingly infinite knowledge and foresight give him a leg up over any of the Marvel guys, even Thanos for whom I have the utmost respect. Shazam's plan was moronic. Nabu also let the Spectre kill him so as to put an end to his reign. They also didnt get together and have two weeks time to plan for Spectre as they three clearly do. Spectre loses before the battle even begins.

Dont worry, he always thinks someone who can move at faster than light speed and can lift 4 quintillion pounds with 1 hand wouldnt have a shot at Thanos. I try to argue for the underdogs myself, but I do it more logically.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Dont worry, he always thinks someone who can move at faster than light speed and can lift 4 quintillion pounds with 1 hand wouldnt have a shot at Thanos. I try to argue for the underdogs myself, but I do it more logically. Who are you referring to?

You big guy. Im not flaming ya or anything, and a lot of the time I agree with ya, but the Thanos wank is off the charts. I do, however think the team could have a shot here.

Originally posted by redhotrash
You big guy. Im not flaming ya or anything, and a lot of the time I agree with ya, but the Thanos wank is off the charts. I do, however think the team could have a shot here. They have prep. Thats the reason they win. Putting three prep gods together and giving them 2 weeks to plan is pretty much sealing the opposition's fate.

Prep doesnt always = win. Make a note of that Batman fans.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Prep doesnt always = win. Make a note of that Batman fans. No. But with the three guys in this thread in this case it certainly means a win imo.

Team owns him.

I'm no wanker, but a well-written Spectre wins this fight

It's DOV Spectre

In DoV, Spectre was briefly slowed a couple of times, but the only one that was truly capable of stopping/defeating him was God. Yea Thanos, Strange and Doom have the prep here, but anything less of Marvels=to God and they lose.

Originally posted by jrodslam
In DoV, Spectre was briefly slowed a couple of times, but the only one that was truly capable of stopping/defeating him was God. Yea Thanos, Strange and Doom have the prep here, but anything less of Marvels=to God and they lose. So you think it would take the power of TOAA or something equivalent to stop Spectre?

Originally posted by jrodslam
In DoV, Spectre was briefly slowed a couple of times, but the only one that was truly capable of stopping/defeating him was God. Yea Thanos, Strange and Doom have the prep here, but anything less of Marvels=to God and they lose. Spectre was curbstomped by an amped Captain Marvel. The only reason he survived this encounter was because the Enchantress turned evil and stopped funneling into him these energies.

Originally posted by Mindset
So you think it would take the power of TOAA or something equivalent to stop Spectre?

To be blunt, yes. Nabu didn't screw up and get killed by Spectre as a consequence. He went in knowing that he could not win. But fighting Spectre was the only way he could be stopped. Nabu didn't let Spectre kill him, that wouldn't have gotten the result he wanted. He fought Spectre using his full power in order to force the Presence to take notice. The Presence came in because it could not tolerate Spectre's actions anymore.

Nothing less than the LT would be able to bring down Spectre.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
To be blunt, yes. Nabu didn't screw up and get killed by Spectre as a consequence. He went in knowing that he could not win. But fighting Spectre was the only way he could be stopped. Nabu didn't let Spectre kill him, that wouldn't have gotten the result he wanted. He fought Spectre using his full power in order to force the Presence to take notice. The Presence came in because it could not tolerate Spectre's actions anymore.

Nothing less than the LT would be able to bring down Spectre. Nabu let the Spectre kill him.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/DayofVengeanceSpecialpage15.jpg

He did this so that the tenth age of magic would begin.




You are overrating the Spectre here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Spectre was curbstomped by an amped Captain Marvel. The only reason he survived this encounter was because the Enchantress turned evil and stopped funneling into him these energies.

Spectre was getting a nice physical pounding by Cap being amped, however had the feeding continued, it would have not killed nor completely defeated the Spectre. even when the magic amped to Cap was stopped, it was stated that he still had plenty of juice left.

In DoV, Spectre went after the big guns first, so its clear to assume that Strange would be one of Spectres first targets. Also, because (correct me if im wrong) Strange draws many of his magical energies from other beings or artifacts, Spectre would target them first before actually going for Strange.

I cant see what these 3 are doing thats gonna defeat Spectre.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nabu let the Spectre kill him.

Nabu knew that he couldnt beat Spectre. He was fighting with everything he had, but obviously it didnt matter none. He went into the fight knowing that he was going to die, but before he engaged, he tried to reason with Spectre.

I dont think Spectre is being overrated here. There was nothing Nabu could do.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Spectre was getting a nice physical pounding by Cap being amped, however had the feeding continued, it would have not killed nor completely defeated the Spectre. even when the magic amped to Cap was stopped, it was stated that he still had plenty of juice left.

In DoV, Spectre went after the big guns first, so its clear to assume that Strange would be one of Spectres first targets. Also, because (correct me if im wrong) Strange draws many of his magical energies from other beings or artifacts, Spectre would target them first before actually going for Strange.

I cant see what these 3 are doing thats gonna defeat Spectre. The scans say otherwise. It was only speculation when the comment was made that he surely had enough power in him to defeat the Spectre. He didnt,but if the power was still being channeled into Marvel he would have destroyed the Spectre. The Spectre even admits he was close to being destroyed.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Untitled-Scanned-16-3.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Untitled-Scanned-20-3.jpg


http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Untitled-Scanned-02-1.jpg

Originally posted by jrodslam
Nabu knew that he couldnt beat Spectre. He was fighting with everything he had, but obviously it didnt matter none. He went into the fight knowing that he was going to die, but before he engaged, he tried to reason with Spectre.

I dont think Spectre is being overrated here. There was nothing Nabu could do. Nabu knew that he needed to die so that the tenth age of magic could begin.

Nabu even admitted he let the Spectre win.

This battle isn't hard to fathom at all. The team uses Doom's time platform, grabs the Spear of Destiny and win.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
To be blunt, yes. Nabu didn't screw up and get killed by Spectre as a consequence. He went in knowing that he could not win. But fighting Spectre was the only way he could be stopped. Nabu didn't let Spectre kill him, that wouldn't have gotten the result he wanted. He fought Spectre using his full power in order to force the Presence to take notice. The Presence came in because it could not tolerate Spectre's actions anymore.

Nothing less than the LT would be able to bring down Spectre.

You realize you contradict yourself within the same post, right?

LT is weaker than TOAA...

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This battle isn't hard to fathom at all. The team uses Doom's time platform, grabs the Spear of Destiny and win.

BS. They don't know about it, and they can't get it. Prior to FC, it was lost in a dimensional seal. I'm not sure how Darkseid retrieved it.

Not to mention the curse will make them fight each other for it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The scans say otherwise. It was only speculation when the comment was made that he surely had enough power in him to defeat the Spectre. He didnt,but if the power was still being channeled into Marvel he would have destroyed the Spectre. The Spectre even admits he was close to being destroyed.

Yes and Spectre also goes to say that he can never truly be defeated or drained(something i said in a previous post) until all magic is gone. Then hed take himself out. Spectre saying he was close to being destroyed was only hyperbole. He would have only been temporarily defeated.

Spectre.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nabu knew that he needed to die so that the tenth age of magic could begin.

Nabu even admitted he let the Spectre win.

True Nabu knew he needed to die, but he also knew there was no way that anyone could defeat Spectre.

Spectre was going to kill Nabu regardless and Nabu knew it. Nabus plan was to let him kill him sooner than later. Nabu even stated that there was no hope of stopping Spectre.

Originally posted by quanchi112
With prep the team easily wins.
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/125/customsig108017ivjj4.jpg

haermm

Originally posted by Mindset
You realize you contradict yourself within the same post, right?

LT is weaker than TOAA... No,I bet he still doesnt realize it.Originally posted by jrodslam
Yes and Spectre also goes to say that he can never truly be defeated or drained(something i said in a previous post) until all magic is gone. Then hed take himself out. Spectre saying he was close to being destroyed was only hyperbole. He would have only been temporarily defeated. You are falling for the Spectre's bs when he couldnt destroy magic at all. He just brought about the tenth age. He stated it himself that he was almost destroyed and had to have eclipso cart his sorry ass to space to recover.Originally posted by jrodslam
True Nabu knew he needed to die, but he also knew there was no way that anyone could defeat Spectre.

Spectre was going to kill Nabu regardless and Nabu knew it. Nabus plan was to let him kill him sooner than later. Nabu even stated that there was no hope of stopping Spectre. He also knew that he needed to die to bring about the tenth age. He wanted to help Spectre at this point and said so earlier in the same comic.

The point is Nabu wanted to be destroyed and let the Spectre kill him. Thats the bottom line.

Originally posted by Estacado
haermm How do they lose?

Prep gives this Team loads of potential to take Spectre for the majority here.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
BS. They don't know about it, and they can't get it. Prior to FC, it was lost in a dimensional seal. I'm not sure how Darkseid retrieved it.

Not to mention the curse will make them fight each other for it. Hmmm. Your point about them lacking knowledge of it makes sense. Only governments, the Justice League and DC magicians really knew about it. Not exactly general knowledge. If they have no access to such databases, it'd be much harder to find out Spectre's vulnerability. And while I believe that time travel or magical incantations could reveal the same information, would two weeks be enough time to research Spectre and reveal this vulnerability? Hard to argue yes.

But if they did find out about it, they could simply use Doom's time platform to head back to 1 A.D. and get it then, rather then deal with trying to retrieve it in the present. And Doom and Thanos both already are evil. Superman had the will to overcome it's taint. Thanos and Doom's will are up to task. IIRC, the curse only compelled those who held it to do evil. It didn't compel everyone around the Spear to fight each other for it's possession.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nabu let the Spectre kill him.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/DayofVengeanceSpecialpage15.jpg

He did this so that the tenth age of magic would begin.




You are overrating the Spectre here. Show the next page/whole battle...

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Show the next page/whole battle...

Why?

Ya know, Im not sure I'd classify Doom as evil. I mean who has he actually killed? He certainly doesnt consider himself evil. And Thanos has kinda gone soft in his old age, morally speaking.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why? Because Spectre asked if Nabu was just going to let him kill him, and Nabu said no.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Because Spectre asked if Nabu was just going to let him kill him, and Nabu said no.

The next page.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/DayofVengeanceSpecialpage20.jpg

here more scans showing you are truly slipping up here and that Nabu was pushing the Spectre enough so he would kill Nabu.

Please do your homework next time.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/DayofVengeanceSpecialpage28.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/DayofVengeanceSpecialpage33.jpg

He was defending himself the entire time and Spectre finally got mad enough to kill him.

He knew it was going to happen, he knew he couldn't stop Spectre, and he knew by his death that Spectre would be stopped, and the Tenth Age would begin.

He wasn't simply letting Spectre kill him, he was egging on Spectre until Spectre gained enough magic to destroy him. He knew that the only way to stop him, was by his own death. We all know that, but it's not just Nabu letting Spectre kill him.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Because Spectre asked if Nabu was just going to let him kill him, and Nabu said no.

This is what you said. Why dont I see this in the comic,anywhere.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
He was defending himself the entire time and Spectre finally got mad enough to kill him.

He knew it was going to happen, he knew he couldn't stop Spectre, and he knew by his death that Spectre would be stopped, and the Tenth Age would begin.

He wasn't simply letting Spectre kill him, he was egging on Spectre until Spectre gained enough magic to destroy him. He knew that the only way to stop him, was by his own death. We all know that, but it's not just Nabu letting Spectre kill him. Nice spin,but actually if the Spectre wasnt goin gto listen him he was letting the Spectre kill him.


He had to goad him and taunt him into summoning the power needed to kill Nabu. Nabu let him kill him is the point. Your rusty.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Ya know, Im not sure I'd classify Doom as evil. I mean who has he actually killed? He certainly doesnt consider himself evil. And Thanos has kinda gone soft in his old age, morally speaking. You're right about Thanos. But he didn't mind watching Annihilus destroy world after world in Annihilation. He only opposed him when he himself was tricked. As for Dr. Doom. Well, I've scanned a whole bunch of scenes. At times, he is honorable and other times, outright evil. There are scenes like this where he shows his evil side and redeems himself. Doom is willing to sacrifice the lives of his subjects for power from an alien entity that is ravaging Latveria:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomEvil03381.jpg

But when a youth and a villager remind him of the innocent lives at stake and their faith in him as their monarch, Doom ends up sacrificing himself. Course not without first banishing that infernal Reed Richards:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Fights/DoomvsHunter01381.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Fights/DoomvsHunter02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Fights/DoomvsHunter03.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Fights/DoomvsHunter04.jpg

I guess it's a reader's choice to figure out they personally think, so here's what I've seen of both the good and evil in Dr. Doom. Doom spares the Fantastic Four, although they are at his mercy:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomHonor0187.jpg

Doom is no savage and releases citizens of Wakanda after he obtains the info he wants:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomHonor02AstonishingTales6.jpg

Doom saves Cap's life, if only to heal his pride and make sure he doesn't feel indebted:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomHonor03SVTU11.jpg

A bit more of that honor that stops him from hurting harmless folk:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomHonor05143.jpg

Doom speaks of his oath to help Namor save Atlantis and it is not out of personal debt:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomHonor06SVTU13.jpg

Doom does keep his word to Stark after they make it back from Camelot:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomHonor07IronMan150.jpg

Doom chooses not to make war on the helpless, even Thing:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomHonor08MarvelTwoInOne96.jpg

Through Franklin's childlike innocence, Doom looks past his pride and agrees that he was mistaken in front of everyone, to save Kitty Pryde's life:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomHonor09FFvsXMen4.jpg

And well even Phoenix II used her abilities to determine whether he was evil or not and she says he is not:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomHonor10Excalibur37.jpg

But these next few scans are more recent and oughtta tell you how evil he is. Dr. Doom is willing to exchange poor Franklin to Mephisto for his mother's soul:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomEvil01FFAnnual20.jpg

Excalibur obviously doesn't like Dr. Doom:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomEvil02IronMan250.jpg

Yes, it is an artificial intelligence simulcrum of Frankling Richards on Counter-Earth, but dammit... he just wanted ponies:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomEvil04EmperorReturns2.jpg

His most evil act in Unthinkable... scrificing the only love of his life, body and soul, to demons for mystic power. She had run away from Doom early in his supervillain career only to be tracked down by him and manipulated into opening her heart to him again. Her face right before she touches that amulet... it's chilling considering what happens next:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomEvil0567.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomEvil0667.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/DoomEvil0767.jpg

While torturing Reed with images of Franklin Richards banished to Hell, Dr. Doom offers to release Reed's child if he surrenders. This is how he upholds his side of the bargain:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Fights/DoomUnthinkable16.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Fights/DoomUnthinkable17.jpg

Personally, I think Dr. Doom is evil.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is what you said. Why dont I see this in the comic,anywhere.

Nice spin,but actually if the Spectre wasnt goin gto listen him he was letting the Spectre kill him.


He had to goad him and taunt him into summoning the power needed to kill Nabu. Nabu let him kill him is the point. Your rusty. An exact quote isn't needed to see something. He didn't simply let him kill him like alluded to, and this is the part I remembered rather than word for word.

Spectre didn't come to his senses though.

I just said that, and the only thing you added was that he let him kill him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are falling for the Spectre's bs when he couldnt destroy magic at all. He just brought about the tenth age. He stated it himself that he was almost destroyed and had to have eclipso cart his sorry ass to space to recover. He also knew that he needed to die to bring about the tenth age. He wanted to help Spectre at this point and said so earlier in the same comic.

Im not sure what bs youre talking about. Spectre was trying to destroy all magic period till there was none left. Whatever magic he was trying to destroy through the entire series, he was doing so. Yea he stated that he was almost destroyed, but he also stated that he cant be destroyed till all magic is gone and then he is to destroy himself. I find it more logical for Spectre to be completely destroyed once ALL magic/agees of magic is gone rather than believing he was almost destroyed due to physical punishment.

Yea Nabu knew that he needed to die to bring on the next age of magic, but Nabu also knew that there was no way for anyone to defeat Spectre. Nabu even stated that he was gonna help the Spectre and speed the process up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The point is Nabu wanted to be destroyed and let the Spectre kill him. Thats the bottom line.

Youre half right. Yes Nabus knew that in his plan he must be destroyed, however the only thing he LET Spectre do was kill him sooner than later. The bottom line is that Nabu was going to die anyways and he knew it. So rather than Spectre killing more ppl and Nabu being one of the last, he decided to speed it up.

Wow OnedumbGO, that was cool of ya to post all that. Doom I think is more the victim of bad writing. Anything in the past, oh, 5 years of continuity I take with a grain of salt. I really miss my Marvel comics of the late 80s and early 90s. Anyhow, Doom often shows a softer side. He delivered Sue and Reed's daughter and fought the Red Skull several times for example. So I dont think he is.

So many people wrong in one little thread. Red Hulk is wrong and is making himself look bad. The guy pwned you with scans.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Because Spectre asked if Nabu was just going to let him kill him, and Nabu said no.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
An exact quote isn't needed to see something. He didn't simply let him kill him like alluded to, and this is the part I remembered rather than word for word.

Spectre didn't come to his senses though.

I just said that, and the only thing you added was that he let him kill him. When then please explain. You said on the next page this was stated. But,now since you know you were wrong have changed your stance to it was alluded to.

What words led you to believe this. The fact remains Nabu let the Spectre kill him. You chimed in to be a smart ass and were dead wrong. I gave you time before I responded to come to your senses. The comic clearly shows I was right and you were wrong. Scans dont lie.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Im not sure what bs youre talking about. Spectre was trying to destroy all magic period till there was none left. Whatever magic he was trying to destroy through the entire series, he was doing so. Yea he stated that he was almost destroyed, but he also stated that he cant be destroyed till all magic is gone and then he is to destroy himself. I find it more logical for Spectre to be completely destroyed once ALL magic/agees of magic is gone rather than believing he was almost destroyed due to physical punishment.

Yea Nabu knew that he needed to die to bring on the next age of magic, but Nabu also knew that there was no way for anyone to defeat Spectre. Nabu even stated that he was gonna help the Spectre and speed the process up.



Youre half right. Yes Nabus knew that in his plan he must be destroyed, however the only thing he LET Spectre do was kill him sooner than later. The bottom line is that Nabu was going to die anyways and he knew it. So rather than Spectre killing more ppl and Nabu being one of the last, he decided to speed it up. Spectre wasnt destroying magic. Thats the point he was only returning it to its raw form. Nabu wanted to bring out the tenth age of magic. Spectre was clearly manipulated and falsely believed he was destroying magic which he wasnt.

Nabu was going to help the Spectre because the tenth age needed to happen now. there was no turning back. He tried reasoning with the Spectre but then when he realized that the Spectre's mind couldnt be changed he goaded him into killing Nabu.

Nabu let him kill him. Thats it. Then Spectre was quickly spanked and yanked off to his next host.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Spectre wasnt destroying magic. Thats the point he was only returning it to its raw form. Nabu wanted to bring out the tenth age of magic. Spectre was clearly manipulated and falsely believed he was destroying magic which he wasnt.

Nabu was going to help the Spectre because the tenth age needed to happen now. there was no turning back. He tried reasoning with the Spectre but then when he realized that the Spectre's mind couldnt be changed he goaded him into killing Nabu.

Nabu let him kill him. Thats it. Then Spectre was quickly spanked and yanked off to his next host.

Umm yea, Spectre was destroying magic. To a high degree actually. Magic was going to return to its raw form via a new age of magic that were to spawn, yes. Spectre was manipulated in thinking that he could completely destroy magic for good. THAT wasnt the case.

Nabu decided to help Spectre quickly and bring forth the new age of magic because it would have been fresh start of a new cycle. One that was already weakened and partially destroyed. Everyone's abilities were already weakend from spectres rampage which was destroying magic. Nabu knew he had to act quickly and thats why he was pushing him to destroy him faster.

You make it seem as if Spectre would have been incapable of killing Nabu, had Nabus plan were to stay alive. Thats not the case. Nabu already knew that Spectre would kill him, so part of his plan was to let him do it earlier just so the new age of magic would get started earlier.

Originally posted by joshypooh
So many people wrong in one little thread. Red Hulk is wrong and is making himself look bad. The guy pwned you with scans.
Red Hulk is many things that I can't say in the forum but, Being wrong is usually not one of them.

nabu the most powerful lord of order.
More powerful than the multiversal Kismet.
Spectre killed him.
Nuff said.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Umm yea, Spectre was destroying magic. To a high degree actually. Magic was going to return to its raw form via a new age of magic that were to spawn, yes. Spectre was manipulated in thinking that he could completely destroy magic for good. THAT wasnt the case.

Nabu decided to help Spectre quickly and bring forth the new age of magic because it would have been fresh start of a new cycle. One that was already weakened and partially destroyed. Everyone's abilities were already weakend from spectres rampage which was destroying magic. Nabu knew he had to act quickly and thats why he was pushing him to destroy him faster.

You make it seem as if Spectre would have been incapable of killing Nabu, had Nabus plan were to stay alive. Thats not the case. Nabu already knew that Spectre would kill him, so part of his plan was to let him do it earlier just so the new age of magic would get started earlier. Right here in the scan I put up,Nabu tells the Spectre tha he didnt destroy magic. He cant and Spectre was so brainwashed he couldnt see this.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/DayofVengeanceSpecialpage28.jpg

I never said that the Spectre couldnt kill Nabu,but Nabu wanted him to kill him. So,crediting the Spectre with defeating Nabu is taking this comic out of context. Nabu wanted the Spectre to kill him and taunted him until he summoned enough magic to get the job done.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Right here in the scan I put up,Nabu tells the Spectre tha he didnt destroy magic. He cant and Spectre was so brainwashed he couldnt see this.

I never said that the Spectre couldnt kill Nabu,but Nabu wanted him to kill him. So,crediting the Spectre with defeating Nabu is taking this comic out of context. Nabu wanted the Spectre to kill him and taunted him until he summoned enough magic to get the job done.

Nabu told Spectre that it wasnt possible he destroyed the magic he captured. Spectre himself is a magical being. All magic in the universe was already weakened from Spectre killing and draining people.

Its safe to credit Spectre with killing Nabu because it was inevitable. Nothing is being taking out of context. Nabu was going to die either way. Nabu Stated that there would be no hope of Stopping Spectre. THAT is when he decided to speed up the process of bringing the new age forth.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Nabu told Spectre that it wasnt possible he destroyed the magic he captured. Spectre himself is a magical being. All magic in the universe was already weakened from Spectre killing and draining people.

Its safe to credit Spectre with killing Nabu because it was inevitable. Nothing is being taking out of context. Nabu was going to die either way. Nabu Stated that there would be no hope of Stopping Spectre. THAT is when he decided to speed up the process of bringing the new age forth. I am not denying that Nabu couldnt defeat Spectre,but he didnt want to. He wanted to aid the Spectre in establishing the tenth age. Magic wasnt being destroyed as the Spectre was delusional. Nabu goaded him into killing him. So,Spectre killed a character who wanted to be killed. Its all there in black and white.

The Team pwns... If Dr. Fate can beat Spectre then the team (you fill in the blank) for complete pwnage.


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