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What style do you prefer when it comes to dating systems.

Before Christ/Anno Domini

or

Before Current/Common Era/Current/Common Era

(n.b BCE/CE is often called Christian Era)

Hmm, I messed that up. The second option is Before Current Era/ Current Era. (The Current is sometimes replaced with Common or Christian)

BC / AD, it's just what I'm used to.

I use pcn and acn...cause I'm cool like that.

Current Era/Before Current Era

Originally posted by lord xyz
Current Era/Before Current Era

Can I ask why?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Can I ask why?

Because if he measures all of time from the standpoint of "before Christ" or "after Christ" then it gives some acknowledgement to Christ changing history and being more than a nice guy.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Can I ask why? Most commonly accepted.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Because if he measures all of time from the standpoint of "before Christ" or "after Christ" then it gives some acknowledgement to Christ changing history and being more than a nice guy. Oh yeah, Inquisition, Dark Ages, and Racism. Thank you, christianity.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Most commonly accepted.

Oh yeah, Inquisition, Dark Ages, and Racism. Thank you, christianity.

Is it?

And...nothing good?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Is it?

And...nothing good? No. Antything good like Science and discovery, were actually hindered and banned from the church.

Originally posted by lord xyz
No. Antything good like Science and discovery, were actually hindered and banned from the church.

That's not entirely true, the Church at times bankrolled "explorers" so they could set sail and discovery new lands, granted, they often robbed the indigenous people of their riches, forced them to convert or outright slaughtered them for the church, but still.

Originally posted by lord xyz
No. Antything good like Science and discovery, were actually hindered and banned from the church.

So...nothing good came from Religion?

BCE/CE

I find it to be more global and less religious based.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
So...nothing good came from Religion? Unless you can name something, yeah.

Well, it's good example of why NOT to be religious.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
So...nothing good came from Religion?

or:

Nothing bad can come from science?

Please, guys, he's an angry 16 year old. He will come to terms, given time.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Most commonly accepted.

No it's not.

Originally posted by inimalist
or:

Nothing bad can come from science?

Something bad coming from Science doesn't mean good things came from religion does it?
Saying, Religion has a fault, but so do any alternatives doesn't really redeem it.

Charity, Socialism, Social Progressives- all things Jesus supported.

All those works based on religion by composers such as Mozart, Beethoven etc.

ChristianAid the charity...

the Red Cross...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
BCE/CE

I find it to be more global and less religious based.

Its not really though is it? Its still based on Jesus.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Something bad coming from Science doesn't mean good things came from religion does it?
Saying, Religion has a fault, but so do any alternatives doesn't really redeem it.

Charity, Socialism, Social Progressives- all things Jesus supported.

All those works based on religion by composers such as Mozart, Beethoven etc.

ChristianAid the charity...

the Red Cross...



Its not really though is it? Its still based on Jesus.

Yes, but Jesus as a man, and not as a god.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, but Jesus as a man, and not as a god.
That doesn't matter- its still a religion.

Even if Christianity is false- good stuff still came from it.

I think Buddhism is false, but I still recognize that good things came from it.

(edit) Sorry wrong response! haha

Yeah perhaps but it is still Jesus

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, but Jesus as a man, and not as a god.

A man that you are acknowledging as a pivotal turning point in human culture and history. Which would seem to make him much more important that "some guy Christians think was god".

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A man that you are acknowledging as a pivotal turning point in human culture and history. Which would seem to make him much more important that "some guy Christians think was god".

Jesus is a man who was a pivotal turning point in human culture and history. There is no denying that.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Jesus is a man who was a pivotal turning point in human culture and history. There is no denying that.

A lot of people would disagree with that. Let alone having his birth cause the creation of the current era.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A lot of people would disagree with that. Let alone having his birth cause the creation of the current era.

You are going to deny that last 2000 years of western history? People can hate Jesus all they like, but there have only been a handful of people in history that have had as much influence.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are going to deny that last 2000 years of western history? People can hate Jesus all they like, but there have only been a handful of people in history that have had as much influence.

I don't deny it but have you missed all the conversations about how nothing about Christianity is new? ie all the ideas presented by Jesus could be credited to others

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I don't deny it but have you missed all the conversations about how nothing about Christianity is new? ie all the ideas presented by Jesus could be credited to others

I have not read back in the thread, but I honestly find that to be irrelevant. We should move on from were we are now.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I don't deny it but have you missed all the conversations about how nothing about Christianity is new? ie all the ideas presented by Jesus could be credited to others

It doesn't need to be new...

Infact, I could become President- reintroduce Nazi policies and take over the world and change the shape of history- the fact Hitler had the ideas before me wouldn't make me any less pivotal in history.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Jesus is a man who was a pivotal turning point in human culture and history. There is no denying that.

While Jesus' legacy definately helped shape the world as it is today, there is no reason to believe a lack of his existance would make that alternate future better (or worse).

Originally posted by Robtard
While Jesus' legacy definately helped shape the world as it is today, there is no reason to believe a lack of his existence would make that alternate future better (or worse).

I don't care about the existence of Jesus. I just don't want to change the calendar more then I have too. Going to BCE/CE is the simplest thing to do.

Originally posted by Robtard
While Jesus' legacy definately helped shape the world as it is today, there is no reason to believe a lack of his existance would make that alternate future better (or worse).

That doesn't really matter though...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Please, guys, he's an angry 16 year old. He will come to terms, given time. You know, it's very rude to talk for someone and disregard them as well.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You know, it's very rude to talk for someone and disregard them as well.

He's not wrong though...

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
He's not wrong though... Yes, because you know me so ****ing well.

Odd, I often feel the same way when you speak for me XYZ.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You know, it's very rude to talk for someone and disregard them as well. Oh, is it?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Odd, I often feel the same way when you speak for me XYZ. I don't think I spoke for you or singled you out, I'm just radically against most things you're for.

You can tolerate that, right?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh, is it? Yes, it is.

A joke's a joke, but I'm against summarising someone into something they're not and making them an enemy.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Yes, it is.

A joke's a joke, but I'm against summarising someone into something they're not and making them an enemy.

THAT'S what's a joke!

Hold on, I'll dig up some posts where you called me a bible-thumping fascist.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Yes, it is.

A joke's a joke, but I'm against summarising someone into something they're not and making them an enemy.


Have I made a powerful enemy tonight?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
THAT'S what's a joke!

Hold on, I'll dig up some posts where you called me a bible-thumping fascist. To be fair, you are a bible thumping fascist.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Have I made a powerful enemy tonight?

You will rue this day Bardock...

Originally posted by sithsaber408
THAT'S what's a joke!

Hold on, I'll dig up some posts where you called me a bible-thumping fascist.

You have it easy...at least they don't ram the Inquisition or pedophile priests down your throat every time you say something about your religion (or politics...or taste in music)

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
You will rue this day Bardock...



You have it easy...at least they don't ram the Inquisition or pedophile priests down your throat every time you say something about your religion (or politics...or taste in music)

Actually I don't. Your the only one educated enough to realize the difference between the catholic church of old and the modern evangelical movement. I get the inquisition stuff thrown at me too.

Was going to make a joke about ramming pedophile preists down your throat, but I'll leave it.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav

You have it easy...at least they don't ram the Inquisition or pedophile priests down your throat every time you say something about your religion (or politics...or taste in music)

Actually we do. We don't make much of a difference between your sects, really.

See?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Actually I don't. Your the only one educated enough to realize the difference between the catholic church of old and the modern evangelical movement. I get the inquisition stuff thrown at me too.

Was going to make a joke about ramming pedophile preists down your throat, but I'll leave it.
I thought about it as I wrote it and thought you wouldn't say anything and XYZ would just use the opportunity to blame NWO Owl Worshipers...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Actually we do. We don't make much of a difference between your sects, really. Originally posted by sithsaber408
See?
I feel your pain! (I suppose it is shared heretge really, the Lutherans executed allot more than the Catholics did as it happens...(in Inquisitions, not including the Euro-Crusades) However, the Church was fully authorized too...)

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I thought about it as I wrote it and thought you wouldn't say anything and XYZ would just use the opportunity to blame NWO Owl Worshipers...


I feel your pain! (I suppose it is shared heretge really, the Lutherans executed allot more than the Catholics did as it happens...(in Inquisitions, not including the Euro-Crusades) However, the Church was fully authorized too...) Of course, because every conspiracy theorist is the same, I get it.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Of course, because every conspiracy theorist is the same, I get it.

Yes, yes they are....

which makes me guilty of intellectual snobbery.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Yes, yes they are.... Such an unintellectual statement.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Such an unintellectual statement.

Yes, yes it was.