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Holy balls.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/925817/


" * Loss of physical coordination
* Uncontrollable laughter
* Visual alterations or visions
* Experiencing multiple realities
* A contemplative sense of peace
* Sense of profound understanding
* Dream-like veneer over the world
* Sense of total confusion or madness
* Seeing or becoming part of a tunnel
* Loss of sense of awareness as an individual
* Experiencing a “non-Euclidean” geometry
* Sense of flying, floating, twisting, or turning
* Feeling of being immersed in an energy field
* Feeling of being connected to a larger “whole”
* Feeling of being underground or underwater
* Appearing to travel to other places and/or times
* Becoming inanimate objects (a wall, stairs, a couch, etc.)
* Viewing patterns or shapes that are tube-like, snake-like, or worm-like"

" The famous salvia-researcher Daniel Siebert made up a scale for the strength of a salvia experience. His S-A-L-V-I-A trip scale shows 6 trip stages:

* S - SUBTLE effects, Relaxation and increased sensual appreciation may be noted. This mild level is useful for meditation and may facilitate sexual pleasure.
* A - ALTERED perception, colors and textures are paid attention to. Thinking becomes less logical, and more playful.
* L - LIGHT visionary state. Closed eye visuals (clear imagery with eyes closed).
* V - VIVID visionary state. Complex three dimensional realistic appearing scenes occur. With eyes closed you experience fantasies. So long as your eyes are closed you may believe they are really occurring.
* I - IMMATERIAL existence. Individuality may be lost; one experiences merging with the Divine.
* A - AMNESIC effects. Loss of consciousness. The individual may fall, or remain immobile or thrash around. Dangerous!"

http://www.salvia.net/en/effects.htm

hahaha...reminds me of

q4BIMsIGQCY

There's a lot of conversation about it in the 'What Drugs Have You Done?' thread.

Anyway, I'll be giving it a try on Saturday, or tomorrow, probably.

So, I've taken salvia potentially a dozen times, but rarely catch, going by the scale above maybe 50% of the time I get to the first *A level, and have only experienced anything close to the *I level once.

When I did, my friend and I took 2-3 buckets of dried leaf. Within minutes I felt completely disengaged with reality. This is very normal for me, as I tend to become intensely introverted/out of touch with my immediate surrounding when I am on psychedelic drugs, however this disengagement was total. The room I was in melted away and I had massive tunnel vision. However, it took me minutes to even realize this. When I became aware of the fact that I was no longer perceiving my surroundings at all, I was essentially over the peak of the trip, meaning that in my experience, the high from salvia is very different than acid or mushrooms in this regard. I find the intense high from acid is, in many respects, due to the fact that one is aware of how much reality has been twisted, whereas the knowledge of this "twisting" with salvia come almost entirely after the fact (or it did to me and to my friend).

My friend had a similar experience. As I was becoming moderately aware of reality, he looked at me and said in a straight face "Are you waiting for a train". I burst out into uncontrollable laughter, and he says he had the experience of a subway car racing between us before he presumably returned to reality enough to laugh with me for like 25 min.

Any major psychedelic effects from salvia, in my experience, are gone very quickly, however, as discussed in the "what drugs have you done" thread, this can be an intense period. In many ways, I would say that I was lucky with that experience above. I am very experienced with dissociative drugs, and generally like their effects, I was also in a highly controlled environment where there was essentially nil chance of over-intensive stimulation or anxiety triggers.

Not that I feel I have any revolutionary input on this, but some suggestions I would have:

-above all, make sure you don't feel rushed, you don't have any other obligations, you aren't anxious to try it. Get rid of expectations, worries, etc. This is kindergarden stuff, I know

-extract might be better than leaf, I've never tried it, but you certainly don't need the most potent extract to get high. I think delivery is way more important than potency in this case. Even though they are nasty, I would honestly suggest setting up a bucket or at the very least a water bong. Smoking a joint of the leaf might get you to the *L level, from my experience (please don't take that as written in stone, like if you smoke a j or it and get absolutely trashed, don't point fingers at me).

-As an extension of the last point, this drug seems notoriously difficult to gauge as far as potency by does is concerned. Just be careful. I don't think its physically dangerous, just that, as anyone who has had a terrible trip, on anything, can express, a negative psychedelic experience is second to nothing in terms of terror.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
There's a lot of conversation about it in the 'What Drugs Have You Done?' thread.

Anyway, I'll be giving it a try on Saturday, or tomorrow, probably.

I contemplated putting this in that thread and, actually, your convo is the reason for this.

I thought that dude's trip was hilarious but informative. I was interested in the receptors/paths of effect on this drug.

You don't have to, but I think I'd be nice if you could take a video of this and post the results. If that's not kosher to you, you could just do what inimalist has done and post, in as best detail as possible, your experience.

I hope you end up with a V-level or an I-level...but not like a second A-level like the guy in the video.

Originally posted by inimalist
When I became aware of the fact that I was no longer perceiving my surroundings at all, I was essentially over the peak of the trip, meaning that in my experience, the high from salvia is very different than acid or mushrooms in this regard. I find the intense high from acid is, in many respects, due to the fact that one is aware of how much reality has been twisted, whereas the knowledge of this "twisting" with salvia come almost entirely after the fact (or it did to me and to my friend).
Which trip did you like better, the cid/shrm type or salvia?

stupid kids keep posting up the vids of their 'trips' on youtube, scaring parents, and helping gather support to ban salvia. i saw this local news special on the 'newest legal drug' that is threatening our children, and low and behold it's a special about salvia. i saw clips of a bunch of the same stupid videos i've seen on youtube, on the news, and for what? so all of us on the internet can soberly enjoy watching you go "duuuude my handsss" for 10 minutes? i don't even have any intentions to do salvia again but this seems a little counterproductive if you do enjoy the drug.

although i have to say out of all the salvia trip vids i've seen, this one was easily the most entertaining.

Its damn expensive seeing as how the high last less than a half hour. I will however be trying it in the near future.

Salvia is awful. It is pointless and expensive. Whip-it's cost a fraction of what good Salvia costs and it gives you the same affect. Salvia is totally an adolescent drug. Man up and eat some shrooms

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Salvia is totally an adolescent drug. Man up and eat some shrooms Yarrr...

Firstly, what if people don't want a 6 hour trip? Or just want to try something different; from what I've heard, the salvia experience is a lot more intense than shrooms (or can be), be it for less time or not.

I smoked Salvia once, but it oddly didn't have a noticable effect on me. I might have smoked too little, the friends I smoked with just experienced mild symptoms as well.

But, strangely, about and hour or two later, I had taken a large amount of marijuana brownies I had a trip that's much more like what I heard Salvia do than what I heard Marijuana would. It was pretty horrible actually. It just started slowly when I noticed that my brain made odd connections and changed the subject quickly, but then I was suddenly totally gone and had no idea what happened, when I next gained some sort of consciousness again I was sitting on a couch next to my friends and uncontrollably rolled my head around while laughing manically. Actually it was more of laughing manically when I rose my head and then crying in pain when it came down, though it sounded kinda similar I guess. Then that stopped and I experienced determinism fully (it's actually quite odd, I can't explain it very well even years later). I think I started nodding my head and I thought that life was nothing but constant logical contradictionms, always followed by another ... that went on for a while and then I kinmda dozed off again and the next time I awoke I was really scared (cause well, the pain was pretty horrible (though the euphoria was okay, it didn't really help with the pain)...so I kinda yelled weird things at my brother of putting on some music I can focus on and then I walked to the kitchen with my friends around and was convinced that the world was just a one scene stage play and that it would end any second and well, it went on for some more time, but those are some of the major parts of the trip I recall (I dozed off and woke up a few times as I said)...that laseted about 4 hours altogether according to my friends, though I had no recollection of time and couldn't really guess how long I was conscious for.

So, I don't know if that had anything to do with the Salvia or whether my brain just enjoys to torture me after smoking pot (it would make sense, cause I had basically the same trip 5 months later with a different friend...needless to say I avoid smoking it as of late).

It was pretty horrible actually, I even now still sometimes have panic attacks that resemble the thought pattersn on those trips....though luckily less frequently now.

Pot brownies make dosage control or titration through time virtually impossible (especially if you didn't make the brownies). IMO, the key to avoiding any kind of bad trip is preparation, especially mental/emotional.

Originally posted by jaden101
hahaha...reminds me of

q4BIMsIGQCY What the heck is that? HAHAHAHAHA.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
What the heck is that? HAHAHAHAHA.


good acid

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Salvia is totally an adolescent drug. as opposed to all the 'grown up' drugs out there..

Originally posted by dadudemon
Holy balls.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/925817/



Looked like RJ's room.

lol, so after watching the video, that is not really a reaction of salvia, but more likely whatever he was taking anti-psychotic tranquilizer for

if you take anti-psychotics, don't do psychedelics. lol

Originally posted by inimalist
lol, so after watching the video, that is not really a reaction of salvia, but more likely whatever he was taking anti-psychotic tranquilizer for

if you take anti-psychotics, don't do psychedelics. lol

****

I want to see that movie...........LOL

I done it, the effects only lasted for a few seconds, but it was very intense


couldn't stop laughing and I thought I was stuck in a ball that was made out of words, like ona planet, and the atmosphere was these swirling yellow words, couldn't read them though.

the laughing effect was like poppers x10000


it's pretty expensive for the amount you get,

we got a small vile for like £40




Bardock, did you smoke it in a joint or did you take it through a bong ?


we made a bottle bong and it worked for us.

After reading an awful lot about salvia experiences on erowid, I'm going to wait a while to try it, plus make sure I have a responsible sitter present.

yeah man, def, I was hallucinating, it wasn't that bad, but I didn't take much, depending on how much you take, then you might take a bad trip, and bad company might just try and freak you out

Yeah, after having a bad trip on shrooms before, I don't really fancy having one again.I know that Salvia doesn't last long, but I've experienced effects with other drugs that seem to alter my time perception, I don't want to have a 20 minute bad trip that feels like a lifetime.

sack that.

I done a half tab of acid, and the effects were weird, but I could snap out of it, it also didn't kick in until like 3 hours later when I got in the house, and I thought my head was a sheephead

First salvia experience earlier tonight....quite a powerful drug, in its own way. I didnt hallucinate at all, and my "trip" only lasted a couple minutes, but during that time I felt completely locked inside a different world. The trip was rather mild in all regards except the fact that for a few seconds, I could not differentiate from reality, at all. This is far different than mushrooms, where I was at least aware that what was happening was a result of the drug. Salvia does indeed deserve a measure of respect. Nice thing about it though, despite being one of my more uncomfortable drug experiences, I felt perfectly fine, even a bit refreshed, a half hour later.

I don't do drugs but one thing I can say about saliva having worked around it is that it attracts a shitload of bees. and while i don't support drug abuse, kudos to anyone with the balls to pick it and face being stung like 590 times.

Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
I thought my head was a sheephead

Did you keep staring in the mirror??

Originally posted by Deja~vu


Did you keep staring in the mirror??


yeah , it would slowly just morph into the shape of a sheeps head, then I would snap out of it if I started to panic, my face also turned into an oil painting

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

What a trip!

Originally posted by Deja~vu
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

What a trip!

btw, that was when I was on acid, not Salvia

I'd like to try smoking salvia but, due to my heart condition I would not risk it.

Last thing I need is a heart attack.

*sigh* The things I had to give up...

Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
yeah , it would slowly just morph into the shape of a sheeps head, then I would snap out of it if I started to panic, my face also turned into an oil painting Try doing it with a chubby friend of yours that accompanies you to the local community park, spends ten minutes on the swing set, and the starts to get upset because he thinks the straining moan of the chain is saying "it hurts.....it hurts.....it hurts". Funny ****ing shit, I promise.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!

I dont know why anyone smokes salvia. You should smoke gold spice. That stuff is legal and gives you almost the same high as pot.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I dont know why anyone smokes salvia. You should smoke gold spice. That stuff is legal and gives you almost the same high as pot.


salvia is legal, and gives you get an instant trip that is nothing like pot,

no one is smoking it as a substitute for pot, I actually dislike the effects of weed.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I dont know why anyone smokes salvia. You should smoke gold spice. That stuff is legal and gives you almost the same high as pot. Havent tried it myself, but from what I hear spice is indeed legit, its just a lot weaker than your average weed. Like ultimately the effects are similar, you just need to smoke far more.

Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
salvia is legal, and gives you get an instant trip that is nothing like pot,

no one is smoking it as a substitute for pot, I actually dislike the effects of weed.
I dunno, Im sitll not convinced that salvia is all that enjoyable, let alone worth the steep cost.

Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
salvia is legal, and gives you get an instant trip that is nothing like pot,

no one is smoking it as a substitute for pot, I actually dislike the effects of weed.



lol can you tell I just woke up with this grammatical massacre ?


Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Havent tried it myself, but from what I hear spice is indeed legit, its just a lot weaker than your average weed. Like ultimately the effects are similar, you just need to smoke far more.


I dunno, Im sitll not convinced that salvia is all that enjoyable, let alone worth the steep cost.


have you tried it ?


it is worth the money, imo, the effect it gives you is on par with most class A's, it just doesn't last long.

Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
lol can you tell I just woke up with this grammatical massacre ?





have you tried it ?


it is worth the money, imo, the effect it gives you is on par with most class A's, it just doesn't last long. Yeah I'll admit its effects are indeed on par with stronger psychedelics but in my opinion, the experience is far less enjoyable than other options. And not lasting long is another reason its not worth it in my mind, for a similar price I can trip on shrooms for a good six hours, a far more enriching experience.

And yes I have tried it, read the thread.

Well Salvia is really meant for Meditation. Pretty colorful flowers dancing to the music beat! Go into it asking a question. It was pretty coolie.