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The Source vs Nemesis

The Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_(comics)

vs

Nemesis: http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/nemesise.htm

Who wins?

vlaaad12345 Senior Member

The source created not only hundreds of thousands of beings who can apparently easily shape a universe to their will but also the limitless space of the 4th world which houses all other mortal universes(all of dc besides maybe heaven itself)and did so while in his vastly diminshed state(less than half his true power according to darkseid only a fraction of his real power)and nemesis if I remember correctly created marvel so idk I would say full power source would have the advantage.

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Okay thats an issue of stamina, is there anything else that can define a winner between these two?

occultdestroyer The Original One

The Source is basically GOD (from Buddhist norms).
It wins.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

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Originally posted by occultdestroyer
The Source is basically GOD (from Buddhist norms).
It wins.

Nemesis is also basically god.

Mr Master Junior Member

If this is Nemesis in its original form,
then ... it is GOD! (like THOTI, not TOAA)

TOAA .. from Heaven, on pieces of paper,
draws everything that takes place in and around the Omniverse,
this is how the true Marvel "God" shapes all things, beginning to end.

TOAA drew/created a being into existence he named the Infinity being (Nemesis)
To be God within this Omniverse. (Marvel reality)

... And from there, the story continues with Nemesis creating Marvel and so on.

But the true Supreme Being will always be TOAA,
but, that's inconsequential,
cause TOAA is the one that creates Supreme beings/Gods to rule the reality he himself created.

kevdude The Hooded Man

Originally posted by Mr Master
If this is Nemesis in its original form,
then ... it is GOD! (like THOTI, not TOAA)
TOAA .. from Heaven, on pieces of paper,
draws everything that takes place in and around the Omniverse,
this is how the true Marvel "God" shapes all things, beginning to end.
TOAA drew/created a being into existence he named the Infinity being (Nemesis)
To be God within this Omniverse. (Marvel reality)
... And from there, the story continues with Nemesis creating Marvel and so on.
But the true Supreme Being will always be TOAA,
but, that's inconsequential,
cause TOAA is the one that creates Supreme beings/Gods to rule the reality he himself created.

huh what about that scan that GS showed showing the Gems power source originally coming from the Big Bang? 🙂

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by kevdude
huh what about that scan that GS showed
showing the Gems power source originally coming from the Big Bang?

😂

Anyways ... back to reality, what you weren't told, but were probably shown:
(always read the scans being posted with claims)

"Power Primordial, energy derived from the Big Bang,
allegedly the same energy that empowers the Infinity gems."

* Allegedly *

"(of an incident or a person) said, without proof, to have taken place."

kevdude The Hooded Man

Originally posted by Mr Master
😂
Anyways ... back to reality, what you weren't told, but were probably shown:
(always read the scans being posted with claims)
"Power Primordial, energy derived from the Big Bang,
[b]allegedly the same energy that empowers the Infinity gems."
* Allegedly *
"(of an incident or a person) said, without proof, to have taken place." [/B]

Interesting scan MM, a few more things are interesting about that scan though. 😄

1. It is cut off so we can't see the rest of what is written, if you have the full bio of the scan it would help a lot.

2. I just went over to Wiki and read up on The Champion and it shows in fact the Power Gem does come from the Big Bang and I checked the pages updates all the way back to June 2007 and its still says that along with more info detailing it. I don't usually take Wiki for real info but it has been up for a long time now and that's a long time for something that if you say is fake to be up and not be fixed...

3. I'm pretty sure it was Adam Warlock who said the PG comes from the Big Bang, and he is the best reliable source next to Thanos who's had it before.

Some scans of The Source I'll get up soon.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by kevdude
Interesting scan MM, a few more things are interesting about that scan though.
1. It is cut off so we can't see the rest of what is written, if you have the full bio of the scan it would help a lot.

I had just backed up certain folders, have to dig into my dvds, I'll post it in a little while.
Still, nothing else concerning the IG is mentioned, but you'll see it for yourself.

Originally posted by kevdude
2. I just went over to Wiki and read up on The Champion and it shows in fact the Power Gem does come from the Big Bang and I checked the pages updates all the way back to June 2007 and its still says that along with more info detailing it. I don't usually take Wiki for real info but it has been up for a long time now and that's a long time for something that if you say is fake to be up and not be fixed...

I don't care what Wiki says, about anything concerning Marvel comics.

Originally posted by kevdude
3. I'm pretty sure it was Adam Warlock who said the PG comes from the Big Bang, and he is the best reliable source next to Thanos who's had it before.

Adam said that
while bed ridden in a comic where She-Hulk was working for the LT. 😂

She Hulk comics are famous for taking on the exaggerated side of things,
Byrne kicked that off, and it's still in certain ways in-effect,
heck, it's actually a part of She-Hulk's power to sense us Humans watching her.

Ridiculous.

Anyway,
the story of the original Infinity Being was stated by 3 separate individuals on panel,
Thanos, who got his info from the 'Infinity Well,'
which means that Death agrees with it.

Mephisto, who was there,
his recollection should be best of all, since he was part of the IB once.

Diana of the Ultraverse,
this individual is actually located in another Multiverse,
and she also knows the story of the original IB, which coincides with Thanos and Mephisto's version.

Besides all that,
we have the Gems on panel stating they were once ALL, when they were one.

2008 Mephisto bio
still has the Infinity Being (Nemesis)
as the creator of Mephisto and the demon race at the Universe's dawn:

This confirms that Mephisto knows what he was talking about.

Also notice who/what/how concerning the creation of the Infinity Gems. 🙂

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Mr Master
If this is Nemesis in its original form,

it's not. look at the pic in the OP.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
it's not. look at the pic in the OP.

True, but it is supposed to be the same character,
only Nemesis wasn't able to come to grips with itself and thus was rendered vulnerable,
I know you know this but others don't.

Still, it's amazing what it was able to accomplish in this weakened state,
we gotta give the ol' girl that.

Two Universes obliterated & re-created, across two Multiverses,
and the gravy, ... one of which was 616 and we know what that means,
and what its creation waves did afterwards was even more remarkable,
although that was manipulated by 4 Gems.

Just sayin good friend, not bad.

occultdestroyer The Original One

😬
Still The Source