Superman vs Thanos

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skyfather
no bfr

bloodlust is on

taking into account both on panel feats and powersets for this match up

so who wins?

quanchi112
Thanos curbstomps him.

Starscream M
this would be an epic ground shattering battle

going bloodlust, Superman would be one of the deadliest foes Thanos has ever faced

I think in the end, Thanos wins, but he'll be taken to his limit by a blood-lusted Superman

Starscream M
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos curbstomps him. nah, no curbstomp

Thanos has never fought someone who speedblitzes combined with the power of a high herald

Thanos will win, but barely holding onto an inch of his life

Harbinger
Thanos, but it won't be a curbstomp.

6-7/10, IMO.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Starscream M
nah, no curbstomp

Thanos has never fought someone who speedblitzes combined with the power of a high herald

Thanos will win, but barely holding onto an inch of his life He would win easily. The guy has taken on Odin and Tyrant. Thor gave Superman a helluva matchup. Regular Thor is a joke when compared to Thanos.

Supes can speedbltiz him all he wants. In the end he goes down hard. Thanos could encase him in pure block for the instawin.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Harbinger
Thanos, but it won't be a curbstomp.

6-7/10, IMO. Thanos has never lost to a top tier in a fair fight on panel. What makes Superman so different?

Starscream M
Originally posted by quanchi112
He would win easily. The guy has taken on Odin and Tyrant. Thor gave Superman a helluva matchup. Regular Thor is a joke when compared to Thanos.

Supes can speedbltiz him all he wants. In the end he goes down hard. Thanos could encase him in pure block for the instawin. Thor has magic...Thanos doesn't

Im just saying it won't be a curbstomp...Superman will mess up Thanos very bad

quanchi112
Originally posted by Starscream M
Thor has magic...Thanos doesn't

Im just saying it won't be a curbstomp...Superman will mess up Thanos very bad The writer really didnt seem to recognize the weakness to magic in that fight. Thanos is well above all top tiers. Who has Superman beaten on Thanos' level?

Dark-Jaxx
Toyman. 131

ultimatethor
Thanos wins this easier than he does against surfer.

Starscream M
Originally posted by quanchi112
The writer really didnt seem to recognize the weakness to magic in that fight. Thanos is well above all top tiers. Who has Superman beaten on Thanos' level? darkseid

Starscream M
this is what a bloodlusted Superman does to Thanos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujnq2D4PtvI

quanchi112
Originally posted by Starscream M
darkseid Raker,Orion,Doomsday,and Superman have all got the better of Seid in combat. Thanos is on a whole other level than Seid. Dont believe the hype.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Starscream M
this is what a bloodlusted Superman does to Thanos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujnq2D4PtvI No,thats what he did to Darkseid in a cartoon.

Harbinger
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has never lost to a top tier in a fair fight on panel. What makes Superman so different?
Uh.....Didn't he lose to Odin? Didn't Galactus bring Thanos to his knees with one blast?

And a bloodlusted Superman isn't a joke to deal with. His speed and his ability to fly make him hard for Thanos to deal with, let alone his strength.

Endrict Nuul
Again???

ultimatethor
Originally posted by Harbinger
Uh.....Didn't he lose to Odin? Didn't Galactus bring Thanos to his knees with one blast?

And a bloodlusted Superman isn't a joke to deal with. His speed and his ability to fly make him hard for Thanos to deal with, let alone his strength.

Obviously Odin is one of the premiere top tiers in Marvel. Alongside galactus and the celestials who im sure superman could handle.

Dark-Jaxx
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Obviously Odin is one of the premiere top tiers in Marvel. Alongside galactus and the celestials who im sure superman could handle. Handle? He would clearly dominate them.

ultimatethor
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Handle? He would clearly dominate them.

My mistake. His speed and ability to fly would be far too much for such lowly "universally powerful" "top tiers" l

guy222
thanos

Nihilist
Thanos

quanchi112
Originally posted by Harbinger
Uh.....Didn't he lose to Odin? Didn't Galactus bring Thanos to his knees with one blast?

And a bloodlusted Superman isn't a joke to deal with. His speed and his ability to fly make him hard for Thanos to deal with, let alone his strength. No,he didnt lose to odin. he was losing but the battle ended in a stalemate. Yes,Galactus hurt him,but really whats your point?

Thanos has dealt with simply more powerful characters than Superman. This is spite.

moonknight11
You guys are funny. Is this serious? Thanos would curbstomp him into oblivion.

The Great Galen
Originally posted by quanchi112
No,he didnt lose to odin. he was losing but the battle ended in a stalemate. Yes,Galactus hurt him,but really whats your point?

Thanos has dealt with simply more powerful characters than Superman. This is spite.

Once again, in what situation has Thanos ever defeated a foe with Supes level of striking power,h2h skill and combat speed all used to full effect. In fact, how will Thanos even lay a hand on supes considering Supes could vibrate his body so fast that he could phase through all physical attacks.

quanchi112
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Once again, in what situation has Thanos ever defeated a foe with Supes level of striking power,h2h skill and combat speed all used to full effect. In fact, how will Thanos even lay a hand on supes considering Supes could vibrate his body so fast that he could phase through all physical attacks. You gave Thanos the win here,so why are you arguing?

Thanos dominates Supes.

carver9
Thanos 20/10, this is a mismatch.

Endrict Nuul
Thanos wins again...

The Great Galen
Originally posted by quanchi112
You gave Thanos the win here,so why are you arguing?

Thanos dominates Supes.

Doesnt dominate friend, Thanos has had a issue tagging peak human MAs.

quanchi112
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Doesnt dominate friend, Thanos has had a issue tagging peak human MAs. Name a character that has defeated Thanos using speed.

The Great Galen
Originally posted by quanchi112
Name a character that has defeated Thanos using speed.

Name a character with supes level striking power,h2h skill,combat speed and durability Thats thanos ever beat.

Harbinger
Originally posted by quanchi112
No,he didnt lose to odin. he was losing but the battle ended in a stalemate. Yes,Galactus hurt him,but really whats your point?

Thanos has dealt with simply more powerful characters than Superman. This is spite.

Stalemate? Are you serious? Stalemating is what Thanos did to Tyrant; he was actually able to hurt Tyrant in their battle. Thanos couldn't do a damn thing to Odin when they fought. Thanos took a shot at him and it did nothing; meanwhile, Odin gave it to Thanos. His best feat in that battle is that he didn't die.

My point in bringing up Galactus was to show that Thanos doesn't always beat top tiers. Thanos is good, and he'll take Supes for the majority here but this isn't a stomp by any means.

Aster Phoenix
Superman wins.

ultimatethor
Originally posted by Harbinger
Stalemate? Are you serious? Stalemating is what Thanos did to Tyrant; he was actually able to hurt Tyrant in their battle. Thanos couldn't do a damn thing to Odin when they fought. Thanos took a shot at him and it did nothing; meanwhile, Odin gave it to Thanos. His best feat in that battle is that he didn't die.

My point in bringing up Galactus was to show that Thanos doesn't always beat top tiers. Thanos is good, and he'll take Supes for the majority here but this isn't a stomp by any means.

Man Galactus IS NOT A TOP TIER.

The Great Galen
Right, look there is no debate here. I agree thanos should win but it will be a difficult win. Thanos for the majoirty but it aint gonna be easy.

Aster Phoenix
Yes there is Supes flies at Thanos at FTL speed and his fist goes through Thanos head.

h1a8
Originally posted by quanchi112
He would win easily. The guy has taken on Odin and Tyrant. Thor gave Superman a helluva matchup. Regular Thor is a joke when compared to Thanos.

Supes can speedbltiz him all he wants. In the end he goes down hard. Thanos could encase him in pure block for the instawin.

abc logic is only valid if the characters are comparable, or if one is pareto optimal to another. So Thanos fighting Odin has nothing to do with him fighting Superman.

dvampire
Superman ftw. And since this is an all out Superman, Thanos will never touch him and Superman will be hitting as hard as he can. Thanos gets ****ed up.

ultimatethor
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Yes there is Supes flies at Thanos at FTL speed and his fist goes through Thanos head.

sad

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by ultimatethor
sad

I know I hate to see Thanos die too.

Endrict Nuul
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Man Galactus IS NOT A TOP TIER.

Yeah, hes lower tier like street level.

tsscls
Bloodlusted Superman vs Thanos?
Superman 10/10.
It's the "in thing" to downplay Supes, and how he's been portrayed recently makes this even easier. Yet we shouldn't forget that Super man is a monster. If he went all out, there's not many beings who could stop him. Look at his recent showing vs. the CSA in trinity. Superman going 100%, FTW.

quanchi112
Originally posted by tsscls
Bloodlusted Superman vs Thanos?
Superman 10/10.
It's the "in thing" to downplay Supes, and how he's been portrayed recently makes this even easier. Yet we shouldn't forget that Super man is a monster. If he went all out, there's not many beings who could stop him. Look at his recent showing vs. the CSA in trinity. Superman going 100%, FTW. Incorrect. Superman would need to go 100 percent and balls to the wall to survive longer than the Surfer has. Thanos 10 outta 10.

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by tsscls
Bloodlusted Superman vs Thanos?
Superman 10/10.
It's the "in thing" to downplay Supes, and how he's been portrayed recently makes this even easier. Yet we shouldn't forget that Super man is a monster. If he went all out, there's not many beings who could stop him. Look at his recent showing vs. the CSA in trinity. Superman going 100%, FTW.

QFT.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Harbinger
Stalemate? Are you serious? Stalemating is what Thanos did to Tyrant; he was actually able to hurt Tyrant in their battle. Thanos couldn't do a damn thing to Odin when they fought. Thanos took a shot at him and it did nothing; meanwhile, Odin gave it to Thanos. His best feat in that battle is that he didn't die.

My point in bringing up Galactus was to show that Thanos doesn't always beat top tiers. Thanos is good, and he'll take Supes for the majority here but this isn't a stomp by any means. No, you are wrong. He lost against Tyrant because he left the battlefield. Thanos and Odin's fight was stopped with neither character leaving the battlefield.



Galactus is a top tier in your world? sad You hurt my brain.

TheBadguy
Oh god yes

*Thread bookmarked*

quanchi112
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
QFT. Based on?

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by TheBadguy
Oh god yes

*Thread bookmarked*

Enjoying the Carnage?

Supes FTW

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheBadguy
Oh god yes

*Thread bookmarked* This thread is going to give kmc a bad name me thinks.

quanchi112
Originally posted by h1a8
abc logic is only valid if the characters are comparable, or if one is pareto optimal to another. So Thanos fighting Odin has nothing to do with him fighting Superman. Thanos is more durable,more powerful,more intelligent,etc. Tis a cakewalk.

TheBadguy
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Enjoying the Carnage?

Supes FTW


Any thread involving h1a8 is going to be epic. and now we get both Supes and Thanos in it..this is too good to be legal.



Originally posted by quanchi112
This thread is going to give kmc a bad name me thinks.



laughing

Allankles
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos is more durable,more powerful,more intelligent,

But slower and overall physically inferior, it would be quite the fight. H2H Supes would take the majority, but all out Thanos has enough esoteric powers to balance the scales to his favor...just.

And intelligence wouldn't count for much in this fight, Supes mind is as sharp as a steel trap, I don't think he'd be found wanting in that category here.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Allankles
But slower and overall physically inferior, it would be quite the fight. H2H Supes would take the majority, but all out Thanos has enough esoteric powers to balance the scales to his favor...just.

And intelligence wouldn't count for much in this fight, Supes mind is as sharp as a steel trap, I don't think he'd be found wanting in that category here. Thanos is a lot sharper than Superman. he is always calm,cool,and collected. Hand to hand Supes would be violated. This thread isnt even close.

Bouboumaster
Thanos kill Superman in under 10 minutes 10/10

Zack Fair
How exactly is Thanos more durable than Superman?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Zack Fair
How exactly is Thanos more durable than Superman? Odin,power gem Thor.

Now your turn.

Allankles
Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin,power gem Thor.

Now your turn.

I'll give you gem Thor but it still doesn't put him over Superman though, not if you go by how the fight played out. And Odin, Thanos can energy manip, generate shields what makes you think he tanked Odin's magical attacks by his durability alone?

Red Hulk
Originally posted by Allankles
what makes you think he tanked Odin's magical attacks by his durability alone? What makes you think he didn't?

Zack Fair
Wasn't he fighitng for his life? superdur

Allankles
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos is a lot sharper than Superman. he is always calm,cool,and collected.

That's all well and good but Supes has genius level intellect and has centuries worth of knowledge in his head, he's no slouch in the brains department hence the reason why I said it won't make much of a difference in a one-on-one battle.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hand to hand Supes would be violated.

Unlikely.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Allankles
I'll give you gem Thor but it still doesn't put him over Superman though, not if you go by how the fight played out. And Odin, Thanos can energy manip, generate shields what makes you think he tanked Odin's magical attacks by his durability alone? Bran took the words right off of my keyboard.Originally posted by Red Hulk
What makes you think he didn't? Originally posted by Allankles
That's all well and good but Supes has genius level intellect and has centuries worth of knowledge in his head, he's no slouch in the brains department hence the reason why I said it won't make much of a difference in a one-on-one battle.



Unlikely. !00 percent guarantee. Supes best against Thanos' worst and he still doesnt even come close to winning.

Allankles
Originally posted by quanchi112
!00 percent guarantee.

Guarantees are meaningless, this is hypothetical. Hypothetically Supes should give Thanos a lot to handle, and have the edge in a pure h2h scenario.

Bouboumaster
Originally posted by Allankles
Guarantees are meaningless, this is hypothetical. Hypothetically Supes should give Thanos a lot to handle, and have the edge in a pure h2h scenario.

I don't think so. Who have trained Gamora? You do know Gamora, right? wink

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by Allankles
Guarantees are meaningless, this is hypothetical. Hypothetically Supes should give Thanos a lot to handle, and have the edge in a pure h2h scenario.

Agreed, Thanos isn't winning this. Even though some people seem to think there's no fight he can't win for some reason.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Allankles
Guarantees are meaningless, this is hypothetical. Hypothetically Supes should give Thanos a lot to handle, and have the edge in a pure h2h scenario. Thanos has never lost to a top tier. Supes is a top tier. This isnt a fair battle its a slaughter.

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by Allankles
That's all well and good but Supes has genius level intellect and has centuries worth of knowledge in his head, he's no slouch in the brains department hence the reason why I said it won't make much of a difference in a one-on-one battle.

Exactly, He would simply fly at Thanos full speed.

psycho gundam
thanos 10/10

superman lacks the tools to defeat thanos of titan, he might get thanos' respect but beating him is out of the question.

thanos =/= darkseid, that is a myth that should die.

Aster Phoenix
Superman flies at top speed at Thanos with his fist out, what is Thanos going to do without prep?

ultimatethor
This whole "debate" is just laughable.

tdazz
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Superman flies at top speed at Thanos with his fist out, what is Thanos going to do without prep?

Blast him just like he has done to the Fallen One and everyone else he's faced.

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by tdazz
Blast him just like he has done to the Fallen One and everyone else he's faced.

Okay so your claim is that there is no difference between Fallen One's speed and Supes? That there is no difference in getting rammed by Fallen One or Supes?

Please prove these points.

psycho gundam
you do know that thanos has one if not the strongest personal force field's in comics?

it seems to block attacks above a certain threshold since weaker attacks get through and his body can already take high impacts and energy cascades that would put thor down for awhile.

superman is not weak but he really isn't suited for thanos' defeat. an offended galactus put a noticeable amount of power into a beam intended to vaporize thanos. thanos yielded but the strength of the field was obviously enough to withstand a focused assault from galactus for a time.

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by psycho gundam
the strength of the field was obviously enough to withstand a focused assault from galactus for a time.

That's an energy attack, which is different then a physical one.

tdazz
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Okay so your claim is that there is no difference between Fallen One's speed and Supes? That there is no difference in getting rammed by Fallen One or Supes?

Please prove these points.


Two can play at this game. Prove there is a difference. stick out tongue

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by tdazz
\Prove there is a difference. stick out tongue

It's your claim, you back it up.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
That's an energy attack, which is different then a physical one. so? the field will stop it.

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by psycho gundam
so? the field will stop it.

Prove it.

Aster Phoenix
I despise blanket statements. If your going to make a claim, be able to prove that claim.

psycho gundam
i just replied to the notion that a superman dive fists first would be a viable option of attack. not too many characters other than superman clones even attempt such a stupid attack, remember JL: unlimited? darkseid quickly made evident how dumb that attack is.

i'm just saying that superman really isn't a threat to thanos for a veriety of reasons;

1) like i said before, cosmic characters are primarily at risk to individuals who's cosmic/mystical or a combo of the two greatly dwarfs their own.

2) strength superman has but his durability is lesser then his strength is. he can attack stronger than he can take. for instance, thor, hulk superman, and captain marvel can deliver strikes that can surpass that impact of a nuclear overpressure wave. but in superman's case, a comparable explosive rendered him unconscious for a time.

thanos has durability in spades, he can easily withstand planetary explosions and far beyond without much discomfort, and that's without indication of his various force field's coming into play.

the only time he indicated that a blow was not worth taking was from a power gem enhanced champion.

3) energy manipulation/matter manipulation up the yin yang

most can't fathom superman even getting a win against norrin, i'm am one of those people. thanos is someone that beats the silver surfer without much effort. thanos is out of superman's league

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by psycho gundam
I just replied to the notion that a superman dive fists first would be a viable option of attack.
Then show proof of why it would not work. That's all I ask.



Well I don't simply agree with something because allot of people think that way. They may be biased. I like proof.

psycho gundam
gladiator did a power dive that didn't put down thor.

thanos' durability, field or not is magnitudes more powerful than thor's. and thor is another hero that thanos has put down/neutralized.

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by psycho gundam
gladiator did a power dive that didn't put down thor.

And this proves.....?

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by psycho gundam
thor is another hero that thanos has put down/neutralized.

Scan?

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
And this proves.....? since thor withstood the almighty kamakazi attack, thanos, a being that possesses durability far greater than thor's must have nothing to worry about, after all odin himself needed to bust out gugnir just to tear thanos' shirt.

and if you didn't know, gugnir in odin's hands is like a high pressure nozzle that can make water cut titanium like butter. it focuses his might
into a single beam, thanos took it head on.

Priest
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Scan?
Silver Surfer #88
Thanos encases Thor with a force field using a some tech gun.
Thanos then incorporates the same tech into his suit shown in Infinity Watch #25...
Originally posted by psycho gundam

and if you didn't know, gugnir in odin's hands is like a high pressure nozzle that can make water cut titanium like butter. it focuses his might
into a single beam, thanos took it head on.
Keep in mind that Thanos was protected by Death at the time.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Scan? do i have to show you that seriously? sleep

you do read comics with thanos in them right? it's kind of a prerequisite for the threads he's in.

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by Priest
Silver Surfer #88
Thanos encases Thor with a force field using a some tech gun.
Thanos then incorporates the same tech into his suit shown in Infinity Watch #25...

Scan? And keep in mind, this match is without prep.

Priest
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Scan? And keep in mind, this match is without prep.
Find the scan yourself, u have the issue number..
Look though the respect threads if you want..
Anyways, Thanos has incorparated the the gun into his own personal tech..He used it again aginst Odin in IW #25..And used the same technology in The End #1 or #2 to hold Namor and the Hulk at bay..

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by Priest
Find the scan yourself, u have the issue number..
Look though the respect threads if you want..
Anyways, Thanos has incorparated the the gun into his own personal tech..He used it again aginst Odin in IW #25..And used the same technology in The End #1 or #2 to hold Namor and the Hulk at bay..

Your claim, you back it up. As I said the scan is only needed to convince me.

Priest
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Your claim, you back it up. As I said the scan is only needed to convince me.
Then it is a request that will be dismissed.
You have u a issue number, prove me wrong smile
Google the issue number, I'm sure u can find issue summaries.

Don't bother to respond to this...I'm not here to do your biddings.

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by Priest
Then it is a request that will be dismissed.


Along with your claim.

tkitna
Wow, this is awful. People actually think Superman has an iota of a chance here? Good lord. Please quit with these spite threads before KMC becomes the laughing stock of the internet when it comes to anything comic related.

Thanos is smarter, more skilled in H2H, and much more durable. There is no way Superman can win this. This would not play out like the usual DC jobbing Darkseid. As a matter of fact, just for Thanos' entertainment, let Clark bring the rest of the JLA and I still would give it to Thanos more often than not.

Thanos 10/10, now close this thread before the word gets out.

Badabing
Originally posted by tkitna
Wow, this is awful. People actually think Superman has an iota of a chance here? Good lord. Please quit with these spite threads before KMC becomes the laughing stock of the internet when it comes to anything comic related. laughing out loud

Originally posted by tkitna

Thanos is smarter, more skilled in H2H, and much more durable. I would like scans, issues and arc proving Thanos is smarter and more skilled h2h. crackers

More durable? crylaugh Maybe more DUR-able. I don't see Clark getting stabbed by Boneclaw Wolverine! biscuits

Originally posted by tkitna
There is no way Superman can win this. This would not play out like the usual DC jobbing Darkseid. As a matter of fact, just for Thanos' entertainment, let Clark bring the rest of the JLA and I still would give it to Thanos more often than not. Has it ocurred to you that DS doesn't job but that Clark is that powerful? confused

Originally posted by tkitna

Thanos 10/10, now close this thread before the word gets out. The word's out man! durznuts



Okay, not a serious post but I'm bored! durfist

stick out tongue

Avlon
Originally posted by Allankles
I'll give you gem Thor but it still doesn't put him over Superman though, not if you go by how the fight played out. And Odin, Thanos can energy manip, generate shields what makes you think he tanked Odin's magical attacks by his durability alone?

Let's not forget that dumb drax took a hell of a blast from Odin as well and wasn't really hurt.

Thanos battle against Odin was a curbstomp in Odins favor. The most impressive thing about it was Thanos staying alive long enough for Odin to change his mind about killing him.

Supes and Thanos have compable feats and that's with Thanos usually having some kind of prep against opponents and Supes having to deal with stuff on the fly.

This thread has been made quite a few times though. My vote usually goes that it can go either way.

iceman24567
Funny posts in this thread Aster, TheBadGuy, Bada..but seriously im not sure a bloodlusted Supes can put Thanos down don't know about that.

ultimatethor
Wow this debate is getting really really laughable
. thanos still takes superman easily through energy absorption, encasement in forcefield, bfr or blasting him to smitherines

Aster Phoenix
Well so far I've seen no proof that his shields can withstand a full speed ram from Supes.

Badabing
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Well so far I've seen no proof that his shields can withstand a full speed ram from Supes. smh....

Prove Thanos' can't withstand a full speed ram from Supes.. biscuits

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by Badabing
smh....

Prove Thanos' can't withstand a full speed ram from Supes.. biscuits

Okay here is my view on this. since normally a person would be killed by the move, I think it's on them to prove that it wouldn't happen in this case.

Whomever is going against the norm should be the one to prove it.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Whomever is going against the norm should be the one to prove it. oh the irony roll eyes (sarcastic)

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by psycho gundam
oh the irony roll eyes (sarcastic)

Seriously, If you were to say someone shoots someone else, it would be on me to prove it wouldn't work.

psycho gundam
galactus' energy beam was a sustained assault on the shield of thanos, and it still didn't fully penetrate it.

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by psycho gundam
galactus' energy beam was a sustained assault on the shield of thanos, and it still didn't fully penetrate it.

Thats energy based attacks, not physical ones.

Silent Master
To be fair, that means you're claiming that the shield can't stand up to physical attacks as well as it can energy based attacks, which means the burden is on you.

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by Silent Master
To be fair, that means you're claiming that the shield can't stand up to physical attacks as well as it can energy based attacks, which means the burden is on you.

No they are the one trying to prove that the two are the same. The onus is on them.

Juntai
Originally posted by Avlon
Let's not forget that dumb drax took a hell of a blast from Odin as well and wasn't really hurt.

Thanos battle against Odin was a curbstomp in Odins favor. The most impressive thing about it was Thanos staying alive long enough for Odin to change his mind about killing him.

Supes and Thanos have compable feats and that's with Thanos usually having some kind of prep against opponents and Supes having to deal with stuff on the fly.

This thread has been made quite a few times though. My vote usually goes that it can go either way.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
No they are the one trying to prove that the two are the same. The onus is on them.

No, you're trying to shift the burden to them by claiming there is a difference in a shield's durability based on whether it gets hit with energy or physical attacks. which again, puts the burden on you.

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, you're trying to shift the burden to them by claiming there is a difference in a shield's durability based on whether it gets hit with energy or physical attacks. which again, puts the burden on you.

They are two different types of attack, so it's perfectly valid for me to ask that they prove that they hit with the same force and effect.

psycho gundam
they definitely aren't the same, the shield has been tested twice;

-once by champion wielding the power gem and enraged that thanos was evading his blows. thanos in a mocking fashion then let champion tee off on his shield. under normal conditions the shield would have endured, but champ was in possession of the power gem and with subconscious tapping of it's power he increased his attack power with each consecutive blow. (champion then shattered the planet)

*note superman lacks the power gem*

- and the second was the more recent galactus incident.

*note. galactus is a trans skyfather being*

at the end of the day it comes down to power. superman lacks the cosmic or solar for that matter to just take down the shield to begin with. after hitting it over and over again and blasting it with hv, he will soon realize that thanos can't be touched. and if he tires it will only get worse once thanos hits him with his power cosmic.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Juntai

Thanos battle against Odin was a curbstomp in Odins favor.

The most impressive thing about it
was Thanos staying alive long enough for Odin to change his mind about killing him.
I have to disagree here friends, Odin most definitely did not curbstomp Thanos.

I studied that battle in-depth,
imo, it was more of a stalemate,
with Odin slightly winning perhaps by a point,
which was towards the end when they struggled over the Trident.

(although admit-tingly, from a judges scorecard point of view, Odin won in a split decision imo)

Also, Odin never changed his mind about doing anything to Thanos,
the fight was going to continue, Thanos was pulsing with energy and ready for more,
then Sif and BRB interrupted the fight, and then both Odin and Thanos stopped.

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by psycho gundam
they definitely aren't the same
Exactly thank you for admitting that.

-once by champion wielding the power gem and enraged that thanos was evading his blows. . under normal conditions the shield would have endured,
The shield was collapsing and you have to prove the second part.

Silent Master
Saying it was a stalemate implies that they were roughly equal which is rather funny for anyone that is both unbiased and has seen the fight.

tkitna
Originally posted by Mr Master
I have to disagree here friends, Odin most definitely did not curbstomp Thanos.

I studied that battle in-depth,
imo, it was more of a stalemate,
with Odin slightly winning perhaps by a point,
which was towards the end when they struggle over the Trident.

Also, Odin never changed his mind about doing anything to Thanos,
the fight was going to continue, Thanos was pulsing with energy and ready for more,
then Sif and BRB interrupted the fight, and then both Odin and Thanos stopped.

I think Thanos was pretty much whipped towards the end though. If that fight would have continued, Thanos would have lost fairly quickly after that point in my opinion. Odin was getting pissed and each attack seemed more powerful than the last. Thanos was heading downhill from the beginning.

tkitna
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Exactly thank you for admitting that.

-once by champion wielding the power gem and enraged that thanos was evading his blows. . under normal conditions the shield would have endured,
The shield was collapsing and you have to prove the second part.

So you think that Superman flying and ramming into Thanos would be more powerful than the Champions punching power with the Power Gem?

Mr Master
Originally posted by Silent Master

Saying it was a stalemate implies that they were roughly equal
which is rather funny for anyone that is both unbiased and has seen the fight.
Please dogs, I have the issue, I've seen/read the issue numerous times,
chill with the "bias" accusations, lol, I don't care who wins this match,
just adding my perspective concerning Thanos & Odin, since I saw a claim I don't agree with.

It was rather equal, until the very end,
when Thanos finally went down for a moment once,
but Thanos got back up, did not yield, and was ready for more.

Those are the facts.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Exactly, He would simply fly at Thanos full speed. And do what exactly?

Nihilist
i see this is still on going with aster phoenix asking everbody to prove something,despite him not proving a damn thing other than "saying"imo supes rams thanos to death.

i say to you prove it can kill thanos with evidance

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by tkitna
The shield was collapsing and you have to prove the second part.
No I did not make that claim, he did so he has to prove it.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Priest
Then it is a request that will be dismissed.
You have u a issue number, prove me wrong smile
Google the issue number, I'm sure u can find issue summaries.

Don't bother to respond to this...I'm not here to do your biddings. Bout time somebody else said it.Originally posted by Avlon
Let's not forget that dumb drax took a hell of a blast from Odin as well and wasn't really hurt.

Thanos battle against Odin was a curbstomp in Odins favor. The most impressive thing about it was Thanos staying alive long enough for Odin to change his mind about killing him.

Supes and Thanos have compable feats and that's with Thanos usually having some kind of prep against opponents and Supes having to deal with stuff on the fly.

This thread has been made quite a few times though. My vote usually goes that it can go either way. What? Odin took out Drax and Surfer easily. He curbstomped the both of them.

When did Odin change his mind about killing Thanos?

This fight doesnt go either way. It goes Thanos way every single time.Originally posted by psycho gundam
oh the irony roll eyes (sarcastic) LOL.

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by Nihilist
i see this is still on going

Oh yes, you could literally rename this thread "The Neverending Story".

quanchi112
Originally posted by Mr Master
I have to disagree here friends, Odin most definitely did not curbstomp Thanos.

I studied that battle in-depth,
imo, it was more of a stalemate,
with Odin slightly winning perhaps by a point,
which was towards the end when they struggled over the Trident.

(although admit-tingly, from a judges scorecard point of view, Odin won in a split decision imo)

Also, Odin never changed his mind about doing anything to Thanos,
the fight was going to continue, Thanos was pulsing with energy and ready for more,
then Sif and BRB interrupted the fight, and then both Odin and Thanos stopped. QFT. Odin was winning but hadnt won yet and Thanos still had a lot more fight in him.

Mr Master
Originally posted by tkitna

I think Thanos was pretty much whipped towards the end though.
If that fight would have continued,
Thanos would have lost fairly quickly after that point in my opinion.
It's plausible.
Just like it's plausible that Thanos would've somehow got the edge later on.

We'll never know.
Originally posted by tkitna

Odin was getting pissed and each attack seemed more powerful than the last.
Odin stated he was basically going to kill Thanos even before he brought out the Trident.

So I believe, Odin was attacking with fury shortly after the first couple of blows.
Originally posted by tkitna

Thanos was heading downhill from the beginning.
Not too sure about that,
if Odin would've felt so confident from the beginning, why'd he bring out the Trident?

Nihilist
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Oh yes, you could literally rename this thread "The Neverending Story".

i am asking you to prove that supes can ram thanos to death with his speed.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Nihilist
i see this is still on going with aster phoenix asking everbody to prove something,despite him not proving a damn thing other than "saying"imo supes rams thanos to death.

i say to you prove it can kill thanos with evidance He hasnt even proven that Supes can ram anyone close to Thanos' to death with one fell mad dash. Its kinda funny and sad at the same time.

Badabing
Originally posted by quanchi112
He hasnt even proven that Supes can ram anyone close to Thanos' to death with one fell mad dash. Its kinda funny and sad at the same time. Superman blitzed DS to the Sun......easily. Thanos will be a cakewalk.
superdur
thanduros


stick out tongue

quanchi112
Originally posted by Badabing
Superman blitzed DS to the Sun......easily. Thanos will be a cakewalk.
superdur
thanduros


stick out tongue Yes,Superman also needed to supergirl and a clever ruse to take out the omega beams the first time. he also needed WW to help deflect the omega beams right back into darkseid's domepiece.

Thanos>>dc. You know it and I know it.

stick out tongue

Nihilist
Originally posted by Badabing
Superman blitzed DS to the Sun......easily. Thanos will be a cakewalk.
superdur
thanduros


stick out tongue

punch beware bada

KuRuPT Thanosi
hahaha. Yes Aster as per your style..... claim that a ram attack can break through Thanos shield let alone hurt him. You wanted proof of Thanos shield working against a physical attack and we gave you Chamption with PG punching Thanos shield and it basically stopping it. HOwever, suffice to say Champion with the PG is way more powerful then a superman ram LOL. It's funny just saying that can even hurt Thanos. So, please prove Thanos this can break thanos shield and even hurt him.

Mindset
Superman can probably ram the whole Marvel Universe to death.

Anyone who says otherwise is a fanboy.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Mr Master
Please dogs, I have the issue, I've seen/read the issue numerous times,
chill with the "bias" accusations, lol, I don't care who wins this match,
just adding my perspective concerning Thanos & Odin, since I saw a claim I don't agree with.

It was rather equal, until the very end,
when Thanos finally went down for a moment once,
but Thanos got back up, did not yield, and was ready for more.

Those are the facts.

If by rather equal you mean Odin was never in danger, I agree.

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by Mindset
Superman can probably ram the whole Marvel Universe to death.

Thats a snuff film I would pay to see.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Silent Master

If by rather equal you mean Odin was never in danger, I agree.
Odin definitely never went down. thumb up This is why Odin technically won.
I did submit in a score card those would be the results,
but nevertheless Thanos didn't lose, and at the every end,
Thanos was looking fresh, energy fists ready and taking it 12 rounds it seems:

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/694166_TvsO.jpg

Had the fight gone on, sure, Thanos could've lost, of course, come on it's Odin.

But also, Thanos could've changed his strategy, and figured out a way to win.
Who knows, we just don't.
Remember vs Thor/PG? They were stalemating, for a few pages,
finally Thanos knowing that soon Thor would surpass his might,
played it off like he gave up and left scared, instead he comes back-a new gun he built,
wammo, Thor/PG contained, if only for 3 hours but hey.

He should've got some tech, heck, Odin has his Trident, (not that it's tech per se)
but it does allow Odin to harness or focus more energy, (if I remember correctly)
probably would've even out things a bit.

Silent Master
I disagree with Thanos looking/being fresh at the end, but since this is a bit off-topic, I'll just agree to disagree.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Mr Master
Odin definitely never went down. thumb up This is why Odin technically won.
I did submit in a score card those would be the results,
but nevertheless Thanos didn't lose, and at the every end,
Thanos was looking fresh, energy fists ready and taking it 12 rounds it seems:

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/694166_TvsO.jpg

Had the fight gone on, sure, Thanos could've lost, of course, come on it's Odin.

But also, Thanos could've changed his strategy, and figured out a way to win.
Who knows, we just don't.
Remember vs Thor/PG? They were stalemating, for a few pages,
finally Thanos knowing that soon Thor would surpass his might,
played it off like he gave up and left scared, instead he comes back-a new gun he built,
wammo, Thor/PG contained, if only for 3 hours but hey.

He should've got some tech, heck, Odin has his Trident, (not that it's tech per se)
but it does allow Odin to harness or focus more energy, (if I remember correctly)
probably would've even out things a bit. Thanos has beee known to improvise in the middle of a battle also when something isnt working. You are correct,we just dont know how the fight would have ended. Odin was winning at that point,but Thanos was still ready for more and refused to yield to Odin.

Nihilist
this show supes flying/ramming/punching at full speed amped with a motherbox
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/booie2008/supesram1.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/booie2008/supesram2.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/booie2008/supesram3.jpg
it shows that it has little to no effect on doomdsay who up in the next panel, and thanos's durabilty is on par or superior depending on your opinion

dvampire
Of course that Superman is weaker than today Superman (in all physical levels).

Nihilist
Originally posted by dvampire
Of course that Superman is weaker than today Superman (in all physical levels).

he had a motherbox then

dvampire
Originally posted by Nihilist
he had a motherbox then

I still think he's stronger today. Today Superman would make short work of HP Superman.

Allankles
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
I don't think so. Who have trained Gamora? You do know Gamora, right? wink

So? Are you aware that you don't have to be a great fighter to be a great trainer of fighters? Darkseid has shown more H2H skill than Thanos, yet people are more willing to believe Thanos is beating Supes in CQC? Supes has better h2h displays and has demonstrated great speed in those situations, Thanos has zero advantages in a CQC situation. Hell if you want you use irrelevant accomplishments like training Gamora, it should also be noted Supes has had all manner of training from Asgard to ancient Krypton.

quanchi112
Originally posted by dvampire
Of course that Superman is weaker than today Superman (in all physical levels). He had a motherbox amping his abilities.

quanchi112
Originally posted by dvampire
I still think he's stronger today. Today Superman would make short work of HP Superman. Would Superman of today do any better against hp Doomsday?

tsscls
Originally posted by quanchi112
Incorrect. Superman would need to go 100 percent and balls to the wall to survive longer than the Surfer has. Thanos 10 outta 10.

According to many comics, we've never seen a 100 percent Superman. He holds back that much. By making this a "Bloodlust on" thread, the kid gloves are off. We have seen Thanos giving his all, and getting put down by Odin. IF Supes were to give 100% in power and combat, then he would put Normal Thanos down. Plus it's not really known if Supes has a 100% percent output. That's the point, he's always holding back.
Bloodlusted supes, 10/10.

ultimatethor
LOL. the pro superman arguments have involved gross misinterpretation of on panel evidence and a total failure to prove anything. We hear statements like supes rams thanos head off at full speed for the win. Yet when proof of the durability of thanos' shields and thanos himself is provided it is totally ignored. This farce needs to end.

tdazz
But ....... he's Superman

quanchi112
Originally posted by tsscls
According to many comics, we've never seen a 100 percent Superman. He holds back that much. By making this a "Bloodlust on" thread, the kid gloves are off. We have seen Thanos giving his all, and getting put down by Odin. IF Supes were to give 100% in power and combat, then he would put Normal Thanos down. Plus it's not really known if Supes has a 100% percent output. That's the point, he's always holding back.
Bloodlusted supes, 10/10. Supes failed to put WW down for the count. He was bloodlusted and sunamped. She was holding back.

I mean you havent even proven Superman can take someone like the Silver Surfer while bloodlusted let alone Thanos. Originally posted by ultimatethor
LOL. the pro superman arguments have involved gross misinterpretation of on panel evidence and a total failure to prove anything. We hear statements like supes rams thanos head off at full speed for the win. Yet when proof of the durability of thanos' shields and thanos himself is provided it is totally ignored. This farce needs to end. Most of the arguments arent even supported by comics at all. Its how the fight plays out in their head.

The Great Galen
Alright I just have to address one thing...why the hell does it matter if Thanos can beat SS. ABC logic only works if the characters are comparable but in this instance, Supes and SS are worlds apart. In this particular situation Supes is a batter match agaisnt Thanos for a number of reasons. Unlike SS, supes has superior striking power,h2h skill and combat speed all at peak herald levels.

quanchi112
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Alright I just have to address one thing...why the hell does it matter if Thanos can beat SS. ABC logic only works if the characters are comparable but in this instance, Supes and SS are worlds apart. In this particular situation Supes is a batter match agaisnt Thanos for a number of reasons. Unlike SS, supes has superior striking power,h2h skill and combat speed all at peak herald levels. Can Superman knock out Thanos in your opinion?

Aster Phoenix
Originally posted by ultimatethor
LOL. the pro superman arguments have involved gross misinterpretation of on panel evidence and a total failure to prove anything.This farce needs to end.

Thats a politician's answer and you know it.
What that Magus slapped him around?

And yes this farce should end when you prove what I asked.

The Great Galen
Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes failed to put WW down for the count. He was bloodlusted and sunamped. She was holding back.

I mean you havent even proven Superman can take someone like the Silver Surfer while bloodlusted let alone Thanos. Most of the arguments arent even supported by comics at all. Its how the fight plays out in their head.

Didnt we go over the sacrifice fight already,for starters he was mind controlled and not fighting effectivly. Secondly, he did actually win because she was forced to resort to her trinkets. You yourself even commented on how badly she was doing agaisnt him so why change your tune. Some could even argue that some serious PIS was at work considering he has delt with more powerful foes in a considerably effortlessly fashion.

On on to this fight, SS powerset is tailored to a be a perfect counter-match for a opponent like supes on the account of Supes k-nite/red sun weakness. The reasons why he might win are vastly different then someone of Thanos power so why use ABC logic.

The Great Galen
Originally posted by quanchi112
Can Superman knock out Thanos in your opinion?

Probably not KO, but given supes striking power and strength I'd say he could rock him pretty bad. I believe its within the realm of high possiblity that thanos will be knocked around and ragdolled for a considerable length of time if we take into account Supes h2h skilll,comabt speed and stiking power.

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