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What could the government do to Solve unemployment ?

It's called protectionism, and it worked beautifully until clinton ****ed everything up by passing all of reagan and bush's free trade wet dream policies. oh, and maybe counting discouraged workers as part of unemployment statistics so that politicians can get a wake up call about how many people are actually jobless in america (probably a lot closer to 20%)

in the UK we don't have an enforced minimum wage, I think forcing a decent minimum wage would help.

well in the uk you have a social safety net and healthcare that works far better than the american counterparts, you have a much healthier relationship with an economic powerhouse nation (ireland), and your currency is worth more than 2 1/2 times that of the american dollar. plus you guys don't have quite the level or at least extent of third world style crumbling infrastructure as that of the united states. Therefore even if you don't have an enforced minimum wage like we do (which is statistically calculated based on a 1960's era poverty line, otherwise the minimum wage would be $23.50 per hour), the UK at least has a better standard of living than the US currently does.

Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
What could the government do to Solve unemployment ? Cut tax for one thing. Maybe offer incentive programs to buy American and raise tariff taxes on foreign products.

Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
in the UK we don't have an enforced minimum wage, I think forcing a decent minimum wage would help. No, that would do the opposite, which is pretty obvious.

Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
What could the government do to Solve unemployment ?

stop all benefits...spend the money saved on the military...employ all the ex benefit scroungers in to the army...send them to war...and use them as cannon fodder

Originally posted by jaden101
stop all benefits...spend the money saved on the military...employ all the ex benefit scroungers in to the army...send them to war...and use them as cannon fodder Not the most popular of ideas. Pretty much true though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Should go to the police. Though, I assume you realize that if your employer had to pay you 5 he might just not employ you at all.

lol, but it's not illegal

Holy shit, you are 17?

I thought you were a girl for some reason.

forced labor camps

leftist theory knows best

Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
What could the government do to Solve unemployment ?

Print more money

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Print more money

And eliminate the penny.

bring back protectionism in the form of anti-free trade tariffs to stop outsourcing. enforce an updated ($23.50) minimum wage, tax the rich at an eisenhoweresque 75%. cancel all subsidies to businesses who aren't innovating or are profiting. Make for-profit prison labor illegal. Transfer all public works contracts away from private corporate interests and to the americorps national service to rebuild america's infrastructure. Give each american a choice after high school of either serving in the armed forces, peace corps, or americorps and reward them with a free college education upon completion of service...etc.

Originally posted by Devil King
And eliminate the penny.

Which would leave the people who make pennies jobless.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Which would leave the people who make pennies jobless.

I'm so pleased you got that.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
bring back protectionism in the form of anti-free trade tariffs to stop outsourcing. enforce an updated ($23.50) minimum wage, tax the rich at an eisenhoweresque 75%. cancel all subsidies to businesses who aren't innovating or are profiting. Make for-profit prison labor illegal. Transfer all public works contracts away from private corporate interests and to the americorps national service to rebuild america's infrastructure. Give each american a choice after high school of either serving in the armed forces, peace corps, or americorps and reward them with a free college education upon completion of service...etc. A lot of places would probably go out of business from those changes. aka, more unemployed people. You may be right that it would be a better system, Im saying it still wouldnt eliminate unemployment

more money=more disposable income=more demand for goods=more jobs and more businesses to meet those demands. It's called demand side economics and it works a **** of a lot better than the supply side reagan bullshit.

Originally posted by Devil King
And eliminate the penny. Or make it worth a dime.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
bring back protectionism in the form of anti-free trade tariffs to stop outsourcing. enforce an updated ($23.50) minimum wage, tax the rich at an eisenhoweresque 75%. cancel all subsidies to businesses who aren't innovating or are profiting. Make for-profit prison labor illegal. Transfer all public works contracts away from private corporate interests and to the americorps national service to rebuild america's infrastructure. Give each American a choice after high school of either serving in the armed forces, peace corps, or americorps and reward them with a free college education upon completion of service...etc.



enforce an updated ($23.50) minimum wage
- Good-bye small business owners.

cancel all subsidies to businesses who aren't innovating or are profiting
- See above^^

Give each American a choice after high school of either serving in the armed forces, peace corps, or americorps and reward them with a free college education upon completion of service...etc.
- Then who pays for it? The government, or maybe those poor small business owners, obviously they can afford it.


BTW, an unemployment rate of 4-6% is actually where it should be and has been for awhile people. I think we are between 6-7% right now, this is not exactly a cause for concern.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
more money=more disposable income=more demand for goods=more jobs and more businesses to meet those demands. It's called demand side economics and it works a **** of a lot better than the supply side reagan bullshit.

You mean that having a product, lying to the consumer about their ability to afford it, selling it to them anyway because you know they don't understand the fine print and are taking you at your word as a representative of the finacial institution that told them they could afford it, and then ****ing them over and expecting all consumers to bail the liar out isn't good economic policy?

I walked into a grocery store to buy a gallon of milk for my family. I saw that it cost $4.69 but I only had $3.58. When I turned around to leave I was stopped by a guy with an "I'm here to help" nametag, telling me I could afford the 5 dollar gallon of milk even though I only had three bucks. When I got to the register, it actually cost me $7.50. I'm left wondering why I was still able to walk out of the store with a gallon of milk. Should I try to return it? If I do, the store won't sell me any more milk and neither will any other store. In fact, it'll be seven or more years before I can buy another gallon of milk. Do I take the milk home to my family or do I risk them not having milk for the next decade?

official unemployment statistics only count those who are collecting unemployment insurance while seeking employment. They do not count discouraged workers who have either given up seeking employment or are not registered through insurance or otherwise as "unemployed". By those standards, our unemployment rate is waaaay higher than officially reported. And i guess i didn't make myself clear. i meant only subsidize big business if they are working on some innovative product that solves a major social issue, not pay them blood money so they don't raise the price of oil. I have no problem with subsidizing legitimate small businesses as long as they have a feasable business plan and up until the point where they can compete on their own. As for who pays for americorps/peacecorps/armed services...how about the money we save by not shelling things out to private contractors? What to do about private contractors? Have them work purely in the private sector which most do anyway because it's more lucrative than the public sector anyway. What about more youth build programs? tightening tax exempt standards for religious organizations?

Originally posted by Darth Jello
tightening tax exempt standards for religious organizations?

Don't tighten them; eliminate them. There might be a few less mega-churches across the street from the super-Wal-Marts if you do. In the town in which I gerw up, there is no small buiness growth. Not one business in the last 10 years, that I can recall, has succeded. (Other than pawn shops and mega-churches) Does the Super-Wal-Mart that opened 10 years ago, 20 miles down the highway, have anything to do with it? I don't know for sure. I haven't been there to see the changes and my family no longer lives there. But I think the sudden collapse of the small, independant local economy that had to shift to the larger town next door might be interconnected.

By the way, I'm not disagreeing with a lot that you're saying. I'm simply using it as a springboard to voice my own opinions.

Enslave the homeless.

Originally posted by KidRock
Enslave the homeless.

Too late.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
Or make it worth a dime.

That doesn't happen quite as easily.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
official unemployment statistics only count those who are collecting unemployment insurance while seeking employment. They do not count discouraged workers who have either given up seeking employment or are not registered through insurance or otherwise as "unemployed". By those standards, our unemployment rate is waaaay higher than officially reported. And i guess i didn't make myself clear. i meant only subsidize big business if they are working on some innovative product that solves a major social issue, not pay them blood money so they don't raise the price of oil. I have no problem with subsidizing legitimate small businesses as long as they have a feasable business plan and up until the point where they can compete on their own. As for who pays for americorps/peacecorps/armed services...how about the money we save by not shelling things out to private contractors? What to do about private contractors? Have them work purely in the private sector which most do anyway because it's more lucrative than the public sector anyway. What about more youth build programs? tightening tax exempt standards for religious organizations?

I hate to be rude, but you sound like some nutty kid being forced fed far left bullshit out of Colorado University. Maybe your just being sarcastic and if so, good job. Tax the wealthy at 75%, holy crap this is good.

kid? colorado university? far-left? wow. so taxation and social programs are socialism but subsidies aren't right? Radical, yes. nutty, no. You're in Germany. I don't think you understand a lopsided tax burden/economic situation wherein the middle class which is required for a free and equitable society is shrinking. Also, the tax on the upper class WAS that high up until more or less the johnson administration. Not to mention the UK's previous taxation of upper tax brackets at around 90% pre-thatcher. the only bad effects would be a distinct lack of multibillionaires, boo hoo.

As for you kid rock, as stupid as you usually sound you sound even more so now since slavery would increase unemployment due to the high level of free labor which would increase homelessness and therefore increase slavery until we either have a feudalist society subsisting entirely on exporting slave-made goods or our whole society/economy collapses when there aren't enough consumers to sustain producers since no one can buy anything due to lack of real wages.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
bring back protectionism in the form of anti-free trade tariffs to stop outsourcing. enforce an updated ($23.50) minimum wage

Almost no one will be able to afford that. Pretty much all small businesses will die. The Big Businesses will become way more expensive and the unemployment will actually sky rocket. Good job, you destroyed your country with just one decision.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
tax the rich at an eisenhoweresque 75%.

Lots of rich will leave the country, with them big parts of their businesses and lots of jobs.


Originally posted by Darth Jello

cancel all subsidies to businesses who aren't innovating or are profiting.

I'd cancel all subsidies.

Originally posted by Darth Jello

Transfer all public works contracts away from private corporate interests and to the americorps national service to rebuild america's infrastructure.

How would that create jobs? That just seems to shift jobs to a less capable and more expensive service.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Give each american a choice after high school of either serving in the armed forces, peace corps, or americorps and reward them with a free college education upon completion of service...etc.

More college education doesn't create more college education jobs. Neither do you really need more people in the armed forces your millions are more than enough already, don't you think?

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Print more money

Inflation?

Originally posted by Darth Jello
the only bad effects would be a distinct lack of multibillionaires

lol

well, that plan will attract investment and the creation of new places where people can work

at least you are proposing that the gvt take over, because history isn't full of examples of the government failing to do what it sets out to. And they are way less corrupt than the private sector. No dishonest politicians.

like I said, forced labour ends unemployment, glad we agree

Give tax breaks to companies that keep 75-95 percent of their jobs stateside; give devaluing incentives to those that keep 74 to 50 percent.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Inflation?

isn't that what cortisone is for?

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Give tax breaks to companies that keep 75-95 percent of their jobs stateside; give devaluing incentives to those that keep 74 to 50 percent.

products produced in North America do not compete well on the market with those from China.

Regardless of tax breaks, if the consumer still has to pay the difference (worker's pay, benefits, vacation, etc) companies which keep employment stateside will struggle.

IMHO, this just benefits foreign companies that import product to the states (and would theoretically be immune to the taxes), rather than domestic companies that do the same.

Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
What could the government do to Solve unemployment ?

For one thing, if more states in the US recycled the way many parts of Calfornia do, then many jobs could be created. As it is, I don't think most of the US offer the option or service of recycling cans. I'm not talking about the bins where you separate the clear glass from the green glass and the plastic from the foil, I'm talking about the recycling cans where you throw anything into it that can be recycled, and you don't have to separate it. Who separates it? The guys at the recycling plant who get paid to separate it, and they get it from the guys who get paid to drive the trucks that come and pick it up. Then the guys who get paid to sell it to companies that use recycled materials can do their jobs. And then theres the guys who deliver the cans to the houses so they can recycle. And it's all free to you and me, and the recycling company basically makes a fortune since we provide them with their materials, we basically give it to them at no cost to them. It's flawless.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
For one thing, if more states in the US recycled the way many parts of Calfornia do, then many jobs could be created. As it is, I don't think most of the US offer the option or service of recycling cans. I'm not talking about the bins where you separate the clear glass from the green glass and the plastic from the foil, I'm talking about the recycling cans where you throw anything into it that can be recycled, and you don't have to separate it. Who separates it? The guys at the recycling plant who get paid to separate it, and they get it from the guys who get paid to drive the trucks that come and pick it up. Then the guys who get paid to sell it to companies that use recycled materials can do their jobs. And then theres the guys who deliver the cans to the houses so they can recycle. And it's all free to you and me, and the recycling company basically makes a fortune since we provide them with their materials, we basically give it to them at no cost to them. It's flawless. If that's not government funded that does indeed sound awesome.

Originally posted by Bardock42
If that's not government funded that does indeed sound awesome.

I don't see why it would need to be. A private enterprise could start it up and reap the benefits almost immediately, it would seem. It would just snowball from there. I don't know, I guess there's regulations and whatnot, but I don't understand why it is not practiced as much as it could be at this day and age.

Stop spending cash on wars and boost your own economy

Originally posted by inimalist
products produced in North America do not compete well on the market with those from China.

Regardless of tax breaks, if the consumer still has to pay the difference (worker's pay, benefits, vacation, etc) companies which keep employment stateside will struggle.

IMHO, this just benefits foreign companies that import product to the states (and would theoretically be immune to the taxes), rather than domestic companies that do the same. While I can see and do concede that point, tariffs can be used to prevent imports from being substantially greater than the country's exports. My idea was based upon having an increase in the tariff rates, as to give domestic goods a chance. Basically, the idea would be in conjunction with other measures that I did not outline in my post.