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It is a 3 on 3 battle of the best Akatsuki's. All teams are named by the leader of the group.

TEAM ITACHI

Leader:Itachi- Murderer of the Uchiha clan. Amaterasu is not allowed.

Deidara- Was a terrorist for anti-nationalists. Already in the air on a clay bird.

Kisame- Murderer of a feudal lord. Produced a lake before the fight started.

TEAM PEIN

Leader:Pein- Only user of the Rinnegan. He is the only one fighting, none of his 6 are with him.

Tobi/Madara Uchiha- Founder of the Akatsuki. His Sharingan is not able for use in the fight.

Kakuzu- Ninja who tried to kill the 1st Hokage. All for masks are off of his back already.

RULES- No summonings, besides that, all jutsu's are allowed. The fight continues until all 3 Akatsuki's are unable to fight.

Which team is better?

Why is Deidara one of the "best" Akatsuki?

By his own admission, Sasori, his former partner, was better than him.

But, going by feats, team 1 wins, going by speculation, team 2 in a stomp.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Why is Deidara one of the "best" Akatsuki?

By his own admission, Sasori, his former partner, was better than him.

But, going by feats, team 1 wins, going by speculation, team 2 in a stomp.

That pretty much sums it up

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Why is Deidara one of the "best" Akatsuki?

By his own admission, Sasori, his former partner, was better than him.

But, going by feats, team 1 wins, going by speculation, team 2 in a stomp.

That is why Sasori got his ass pumbled by Sakura and Chiyo, and Deidara beat Gaara.

Deidara assumed that Sasori was the better than him. Deidara looked up to him.

Pein would lose to Itachi. Deidara would lose to Tobi. Kisame would lose too Kakuzu. Even in a 2 on 1, Itachi beats them both. Too many abilities compared to Tobi and Kakuzu.

Originally posted by Wil7
That is why Sasori got his ass pumbled by Sakura and Chiyo, and Deidara beat Gaara.

Deidara assumed that Sasori was the better than him. Deidara looked up to him.

Pein would lose to Itachi. Deidara would lose to Tobi. Kisame would lose too Kakuzu. Even in a 2 on 1, Itachi beats them both. Too many abilities compared to Tobi and Kakuzu. Chiyo, an S class Ninja. Sakura, who by now is Jonin level. And Sasori let himself die.

Pein would lose to Itachi by feats, but by speculation he is stronger.

Kisame lose to Kakuzu? Lul wut? Kisame is stronger, faster, and has shown greater magnitude of strength.

...Tobi is basically supposed to be everything Itachi is an more.

Putting Pein and Madara on the same team seems kinda unfair. One can't be hit plus has the hax sharingan and the other has a body that can absorb any ninjutsu with another eye hax. And just about everybody on the other team uses ninjutsu though Kisame has his sword he uses also but he can't hit Madara and he can't kill Pein. So that's going to be against him also.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Chiyo, an S class Ninja. Sakura, who by now is Jonin level. And Sasori let himself die.

Pein would lose to Itachi by feats, but by speculation he is stronger.

Kisame lose to Kakuzu? Lul wut? Kisame is stronger, faster, and has shown greater magnitude of strength.

...Tobi is basically supposed to be everything Itachi is an more.

And Gaara, who could take Chiyo, and Sakura without breaking a sweat, lost to Deidara. Sasori doesn't have the jutsu's to beat Gaara, Deidara is. Deidara is considered the Akatsuki Artist, and he proved it. He stood up to Sasuke, and if it wasn't for the summoning and death of Manda, Sasuke would have died to Deidara. Sasori would have had all of his puppets destroyed. When that happens, he is screwed.

Itachi would use Amaterasu to kill all of the Pein's. Pein has nothing on Itachi.

Power-Kisame, Speed-Kakuzu, Magnitude of strength-Kisame. Kakuzu's rage kills Kisame though. Why do you think Hidan is with Kakuzu? Because Hidan is immortal. Kakuzu has killed all of his previous partners.

Itachi's Jutsu's
Sharingan
Mangekyo Sharingan
Amaterasu
Transcription Seal: Amaterasu
Tsukuyomi
Fire Release: Phoenix Immortal Fire Technique
Susanoo
Clone Great Explosion
Water Release: Water Fang Bullet
Crow Clone Technique
Shadow Clone Technique
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Shadow Clone Explosion
Shadow Clone: Haze
Demonic Illusion: Mirror Heaven and Earth Change
Ephemeral
Fire Release: Dragon Fire Technique
Water Clone Technique

Tobi's Jutsu's

Sharingan
Mangekyo Sharingan (presumed damaged)
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Immortal Fire Technique
Fire Release: Dragon Fire Technique
Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan (presumed damaged)
Unnamed Teleportation Technique
Earth Release: Inner Decapitation Tech

Itachi crushes Tobi in jutsu's as you can see, and in a fight.

You do realize Naruto is all about certain styles beating certain styles and Sasori was fighting, and winning for the most part, against a style that is suppose to be strong against his style. While Deidara only beat Gaara because he tricked him. Not to mention Sasori was two on one for a little bit also. Being more powerful doesn't always mean you will win. It's more than just power.

Amaterasu is a ninjutsu...Pein's one body can absorb any ninjutsu. So yea he won't be doing much at all with that. Not to mention doing many of them will weaken him.

Kisame can turn a desert into a lake making it in his favor. Just because Kakuzu was alway paired with people weaker than him doesn't make him so much stronger than Kisame. Kakuzu fought Kakashi, with Chouji and Ino in the way. Kisame beat all of Team Gai with a clone that had like was 10 or 30 percent of his chakra only.

Having more jutsu doesn't mean anything. Not when none of Itachi's attacks can hit Tobi, and Tobi has a more advanced sharingan, and has had a longer time learning all it's secrets. Itachi also doesn't know most of Tobi's secret's like his ability to phase through attacks while Tobi knows all of Itachi's abilities.

Wil7 I am not even going to address that bullshit post full of inaccuracies and outright lies.

You're posts are stupid and completely bullshit.

You either are severely misinformed of Naruto, or are lying.

You don't know shit about Naruto then.

You can go ahead and go to Google, type in Itachi, go to the first one there, read about Itachi and his jutsu's, and then you will see what I mean. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Itachi_Uchiha

If you still don't see it, then you are completly clueless about everything in Naruto.

Nigga I know more about Naruto than you ever will.

I'm not the one who claimed that because Shukaku's tail is bigger it is stronger than the Eight Tailed or the Kyuubi.

And you are using wiki as a source. Lame.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Nigga I know more about Naruto than you ever will.

I'm not the one who claimed that because Shukaku's tail is bigger it is stronger than the Eight Tailed or the Kyuubi.

And you are using wiki as a source. Lame.

Right..maybe I should stop responding if he said that about Shukaku.

I'm curious why you think Itachi's amaterasu would kill Tobi when clearly Amaterasu has been shown NOT to kill Tobi. Seriously, that's just contradicting what we've seen on panel. How exactly is Itachi going to kill Tobi when Tobi is immortal? Especially since we've already seen Amaterasu fail against him.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I'm curious why you think Itachi's amaterasu would kill Tobi when clearly Amaterasu has been shown NOT to kill Tobi. Seriously, that's just contradicting what we've seen on panel. How exactly is Itachi going to kill Tobi when Tobi is immortal? Especially since we've already seen Amaterasu fail against him.

Hate to tell you that Itachi gave Sasuke his Amaterasu so Sasuke can kill him, so it could work against Tobi. Tobi is only immortal when his eternal mangekyuo sharingan is able for use. Sadly Tobi used his mangekyuo sharingan so much, he is no longer able to use his eternal mangekyuo sharingan.

Itachi would just use susanoo, or ephermal to kill Tobi right away.

Originally posted by Wil7
Hate to tell you that Itachi gave Sasuke his Amaterasu so Sasuke can kill him, so it could work against Tobi.
Yeah well obviously that part didn't go as planned since amaterasu didn't hurt him at all.

Eternal mangekyou sharingan?
There's no such thing

Looks like somebody else hasn't been reading Naruto.

Oh sorry.
I remember now.:P
It's like the normal Mangekyou Sharingan..
Only difference is the user never gets tired/blind even over-using the MS.

lol yep. That's the one. Seemed to make Madara immortal also.

It actually is the same thing


It's just a 'perfect' Mangekyou Sharingan.

Turns out you're the one who don't read Naruto much.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer

Eternal mangekyou sharingan?
There's no such thing

Eternal Mngekyuo Sharingan is real. It is a Sharingan that Tobi knows. It was damaged when he used mangekyuo sharingan too much. Go to Narutopedia to look it up. It exists, you just don't know about it. It lets him be immortal, but he is no longer immortal. It is basically the same thing as Mangekyuo sharingan, but lets him be immortal.

Gameplay wise Deidara solos with extreme ease.

Seriously though feats would give team 1 the advantage.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
It actually is the same thing


It's just a 'perfect' Mangekyou Sharingan.

Turns out you're the one who don't read Naruto much.

Except it's not the same thing exactly. MS can be obtained by anybody with a sharingan. EMS can't be without taking your brothers eyes.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Gameplay wise Deidara solos with extreme ease.

Seriously though feats would give team 1 the advantage.

I don't know about Deidara going solo, but Itachi could solo for team 1. And if it were team 2 to win, Tobi or Pein could solo, but Tobi needs his Sharingan at full strength, and Pein needs his 6 bodies.

Originally posted by yungz22
you are just a fanboy.......

sasori can beat garra and deidara all he needs to do is scratch them one which is another reason why sakura and chiyo won. Itachi and kisame specifically said they used 30% of thier power. how the hell is the finger genjutsu going to kill tobi hen it didnt even kill naruto. Also how the hell is shukkaku sronger than 9 or 8 tails just because his tail is bigger are you stupid. It has been stated kyubbi is the strongest of the biju

You are a dumbass if you think I am a fanboy. The other people are fanboys, thinking Tobi is the best and coming back with a comeback for everything. I think a few people are betterthan Deidara. He isn't the best, but he is my favorite Akatsuki because he reminds me of me.

Sasori doesn't have the right jutsu's. Deidara was perfect for the job. Sasori's puppets would just be cruched and nothing can get through the sand of Gaara's except Chidori, Super Speed, Rasengan, Clay Bombs, etc. Sasori is out of his league.

I never said he was the strongest biiju, but no one gives him enough credit for what he does. Honestly, 9 is the strongest out of them all.

Chiyo released the genjutsu on Naruto. Naruto would have died if Chiyo didn't release it. Tobi would also die in a 1 on 1 with Itachi.

if itachi could beat tobi then he would would have killed tobi already.
Tobi also helped destroy the uchiha clan it wasnt just itachi plus tobi taught itachi everything itach knows about the sharingan

Sasori has 100 puppets, iron sand, poison on every blade he posseses, lots of ninja weapons including bombs and when he is himself he has pumps that can shoot water that slices straight threw solid rock plus flamethrowers he is more than capable of beating deidara.

they are not fanboys you cant accept the truth

Originally posted by Wil7
I don't know about Deidara going solo, but Itachi could solo for team 1. And if it were team 2 to win, Tobi or Pein could solo, but Tobi needs his Sharingan at full strength, and Pein needs his 6 bodies.

Yeah I was talking about Deidara for Excel 2. An extremely overpowered character.

Originally posted by Wil7
Eternal Mngekyuo Sharingan is real. It is a Sharingan that Tobi knows. It was damaged when he used mangekyuo sharingan too much. Go to Narutopedia to look it up. It exists, you just don't know about it. It lets him be immortal, but he is no longer immortal. It is basically the same thing as Mangekyuo sharingan, but lets him be immortal. It is not damaged, he is still immortal, you are both a fanboy and an idiot, and know nothing about Naruto.

Originally posted by yungz22
if itachi could beat tobi then he would would have killed tobi already.
Tobi also helped destroy the uchiha clan it wasnt just itachi plus tobi taught itachi everything itach knows about the sharingan

Sasori has 100 puppets, iron sand, poison on every blade he posseses, lots of ninja weapons including bombs and when he is himself he has pumps that can shoot water that slices straight threw solid rock plus flamethrowers he is more than capable of beating deidara.

they are not fanboys you cant accept the truth

Itachi left that for Sasuke to do. He gave Sasuke amaterasu because he wanted sasuke to do it. Itachi surpassed tobi in sharingan. Tobi has 1 thing that itachi doesn't have, and Itachi has 3 things that tobi doesn't have.

Poison on every blade, good luck trying to hit him with that. Ninja Weapons including bombs, Yashamaru's 30 paper bombs didn't even scratch him. Iron Sand, Gaara's sand is basically Iron. He only has Iron Sand as long as the 3rd Kazekage puppet isn't destroyed. If he tries to use Iron Sand Drizzle, Gaara's sand would stop all of it.

Apparently you don't know the definition of a fanboy. No need for me to accept the truth when I know it doesn't exist in me. Fanboy is when you like 1 guy and comeback for a comeback for every single thing. You need to grow up. I can at least admit when someone is correct, but when I know I am correct, and you keep argueing to defend your favorite guy, then you are a fanboy. My favorite guy in Naruto is Deidara, but he would lose to Itachi, Pein, Tobi, probably every Hokake, etc.

I agree with the Kisame/Kakuzu fight though. I mean, what is Kakuzu thinking. I mean Kisame is 31 years old while Kakuzu is 91 years old. He is not in his prime, and doesn't have the chakra that he use to have.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
It is not damaged, he is still immortal, you are both a fanboy and an idiot, and know nothing about Naruto.

You don't know shit about Naruto. Go to Narutopedia and type in Madara Uchiha, and it will say his ems, and ms are both damaged. You don't know shit about naruto if you don't read on the internet about everybody and there jutsu's. You remind me though of an Uchiha, who doesn't see the beutty of Deidara's art. Deidara would have proved the beutty of his art if it wasn't for Manda protecting Sasuke, and if it wasn't for him, Sasuke would be dead.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Madara_Uchiha

Go to it and read about Tobi's ems being damaged. If you don't, thanks for proving to me that your a fanboy for Tobi because you don't want to believe a fact.

Originally posted by Wil7
You don't know shit about Naruto. Go to Narutopedia and type in Madara Uchiha, and it will say his ems, and ms are both damaged. You don't know shit about naruto if you don't read on the internet about everybody and there jutsu's. You remind me though of an Uchiha, who doesn't see the beutty of Deidara's art. Deidara would have proved the beutty of his art if it wasn't for Manda protecting Sasuke, and if it wasn't for him, Sasuke would be dead.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Madara_Uchiha

Go to it and read about Tobi's ems being damaged. If you don't, thanks for proving to me that your a fanboy for Tobi because you don't want to believe a fact. And what is wikipedia basing their information on?

Oh...Yeah, NOTHING.

Wikipedia is fallible and this proves it, there is NO on-panel evidence to support that assertion.

The beauty of Deidara's art? Deidara couldn't do shit to Sasuke, and when he blew himself up, STILL did not kill him. haermm

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
And what is wikipedia basing their information on?

Oh...Yeah, NOTHING.

Wikipedia is fallible and this proves it, there is NO on-panel evidence to support that assertion.

The beauty of Deidara's art? Deidara couldn't do shit to Sasuke, and when he blew himself up, STILL did not kill him. haermm

Apparently you also don't know that they get there info from the show, but I guess you don't care, just like I don't.

Apparently you didn't read about EMS and how it damaged him.

Do you not remember Sasuke summoning Manda to protect him from the blast. If that blast killed Manda, what makes you think it wouldn't have killed Sasuke? It would have, and don't deny it, although I know you will.

My friend, if Tobi isn't immortal then how is he still alive after all these years?

But here, i'll give you one chance. Find me a panel of the comic that says he lost his immortality. They are free for anyone to download. I myself have read every comic relating to his origin, and nothing of the sort is ever stated. Come on. Prove me wrong. I'd like to see just one page that says he lost his immortality. Even a hint that such a thing occured.

Originally posted by Wil7
Apparently you also don't know that they get there info from the show, but I guess you don't care, just like I don't.

Apparently you didn't read about EMS and how it damaged him.

Do you not remember Sasuke summoning Manda to protect him from the blast. If that blast killed Manda, what makes you think it wouldn't have killed Sasuke? It would have, and don't deny it, although I know you will. They do, but are full of shit on this matter.

Prove this. Using the NORMAL Mangekyo Sharingan damages it, an Eternal one is not the same, otherwise, it would not be ETERNAL.

Of course it would have. Good thing Itachi had the useful ability to summon giant snakes though huh?

Originally posted by Wil7
Apparently you also don't know that they get there info from the show, but I guess you don't care, just like I don't.

Apparently you didn't read about EMS and how it damaged him.

Do you not remember Sasuke summoning Manda to protect him from the blast. If that blast killed Manda, what makes you think it wouldn't have killed Sasuke? It would have, and don't deny it, although I know you will. EMS gave him his sight back, gave him his teleportation jutsu, his ability to phase through any attack, his immortality, and amped his MS..He was damaged from the fight with the 1st Hokage. You don't take your brothers eyes to weaken yourself.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
They do, but are full of shit on this matter.

Prove this. Using the NORMAL Mangekyo Sharingan damages it, an Eternal one is not the same, otherwise, it would not be ETERNAL.

Of course it would have. Good thing Itachi had the useful ability to summon giant snakes though huh?

Well it does matter, because it effects Tobi's abilities.

Well the fact that this website says Eternal Mangekyuo Sharingan says next to it presumably damaged, just like a couple other websites should mean something.


Itachi can't summon snakes. Orochimaru taught him how to summon snakes. Good thing Sasuke was taught how to summon snakes by Orochimaru. I have no idea what you are talking about, but Itachi can't summon snakes.

Doesn't matter what some website says. The EMS isn't ever said to be damaged. And if it was it happened when he was weakened during his fight with the 1st Hokage. The only thing said is when Itachi calls him a shell of his former self but the EMS isn't mentioned.

Originally posted by Kento
Doesn't matter what some website says. The EMS isn't ever said to be damaged. And if it was it happened when he was weakened during his fight with the 1st Hokage. The only thing said is when Itachi calls him a shell of his former self but the EMS isn't mentioned.

Websites get there info from the Naruto show. Why don't you think you ever see Tobi use it at all? It is because the EMS was damaged. He is hoping to take Sasuke's sharingan so his will be back to its full power. It doesn't matter if Itachi never states it.

Originally posted by Wil7
Well it does matter, because it effects Tobi's abilities.

Well the fact that this website says Eternal Mangekyuo Sharingan says next to it presumably damaged, just like a couple other websites should mean something.


Itachi can't summon snakes. Orochimaru taught him how to summon snakes. Good thing Sasuke was taught how to summon snakes by Orochimaru. I have no idea what you are talking about, but Itachi can't summon snakes. No it doesn't, since there is nothing wrong with his Sharingan based on the manga.

Wikipedia said it. Wikipedia has been wrong more times than I can count on two hands.

Typo, I meant Sasuke.

Originally posted by Wil7
Websites get there info from the Naruto show. Why don't you think you ever see Tobi use it at all? It is because the EMS was damaged. He is hoping to take Sasuke's sharingan so his will be back to its full power. It doesn't matter if Itachi never states it. They get their info from something that never says it? The show isn't up to that part yet so how is the show going to say it? And the manga hasn't said it at all. And we do see Tobi use the sharingan. Every time he uses his space/time jutsu he uses his sharingan.

And it may not matter if Itachi said it or not. But it does matter that not once was it ever said.

Originally posted by Kento
They get their info from something that never says it? The show isn't up to that part yet so how is the show going to say it? And the manga hasn't said it at all. And we do see Tobi use the sharingan. Every time he uses his space/time jutsu he uses his sharingan.

And it may not matter if Itachi said it or not. But it does matter that not once was it ever said.

There are episodes that you don't even know exist. You never see Tobi use his EMS, what are you talking about? It is damaged and so is MS. Sharingan he can still use, not MS or EMS.

I don't keep up with the anime...But I thought it was only up to Kakzu and Hidan part?

And even still it never says in the manga..So it doesn't matter what happens in episodes.

Originally posted by Wil7
There are episodes that you don't even know exist. You never see Tobi use his EMS, what are you talking about? It is damaged and so is MS. Sharingan he can still use, not MS or EMS. Provide some official proof to back up this claim.

wait...

are people seriously thinking that Deidera would lose to Sasori in a striahgt-up fight?

... seriously? I only read the first page so I'm not sure, but if so, c'mon guys.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
wait...

are people seriously thinking that Deidera would lose to Sasori in a striahgt-up fight?

... seriously? I only read the first page so I'm not sure, but if so, c'mon guys.

Hey, I am with you bro. Deidar would win in a straight up fight. It is everybody else just because of Iron sand, which can get blown up, Puppets, which can get blown up, and weapons, good luck trying to hit Deidara with weapons.

Seriously, what is Sasori going to do when Deidera literally vaporizes the multiple blocks worth of land that he and all his puppets are on?

He would be deader than dead. Sasori died first for a reason. I'd say that next to Konan he's the weakest out of them all.

Well... Kakuzu and Hidan were pretty bad, too.

So I guess Deidara was just talkin out of his ass when he said Sasori was much stronger?

Sasori with a single needle can kill Deidara.

He is also more versatile.

What will Deidara do when overwhelmed with 100 puppets?

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Seriously, what is Sasori going to do when Deidera literally vaporizes the multiple blocks worth of land that he and all his puppets are on?

He would be deader than dead. Sasori died first for a reason. I'd say that next to Konan he's the weakest out of them all.

Well... Kakuzu and Hidan were pretty bad, too.

sasori's puppets can get pretty high in the air

...Lol, that too.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
So I guess Deidara was just talkin out of his ass when he said Sasori was much stronger?

Sasori with a single needle can kill Deidara.

He is also more versatile.

What will Deidara do when overwhelmed with 100 puppets?

It doesn't matter if he says it. Just because someone says it doesn't mean shit.

Deidara will just stand there and get hit, no. He isn't stupid.

He is more versatile when Deidara isn't on the bird. Deidara outran Gaara's sand.

Blow then all up with Creative Destruction.

Originally posted by Wil7
Itachi left that for Sasuke to do. He gave Sasuke amaterasu because he wanted sasuke to do it. Itachi surpassed tobi in sharingan. Tobi has 1 thing that itachi doesn't have, and Itachi has 3 things that tobi doesn't have.

Poison on every blade, good luck trying to hit him with that. Ninja Weapons including bombs, Yashamaru's 30 paper bombs didn't even scratch him. Iron Sand, Gaara's sand is basically Iron. He only has Iron Sand as long as the 3rd Kazekage puppet isn't destroyed. If he tries to use Iron Sand Drizzle, Gaara's sand would stop all of it.

Apparently you don't know the definition of a fanboy. No need for me to accept the truth when I know it doesn't exist in me. Fanboy is when you like 1 guy and comeback for a comeback for every single thing. You need to grow up. I can at least admit when someone is correct, but when I know I am correct, and you keep argueing to defend your favorite guy, then you are a fanboy. My favorite guy in Naruto is Deidara, but he would lose to Itachi, Pein, Tobi, probably every Hokake, etc.

I agree with the Kisame/Kakuzu fight though. I mean, what is Kakuzu thinking. I mean Kisame is 31 years old while Kakuzu is 91 years old. He is not in his prime, and doesn't have the chakra that he use to have.

no garra's sand is not iron its sand does garra's sand have poison on every tip and you act like garra's defense is impenetrable its been beaten before it can be beaten by sasori. im pretty sure sasori himself can break garra's defenses with those water jets the cut through solid rocks

Originally posted by Wil7
Apparently you also don't know that they get there info from the show, but I guess you don't care, just like I don't.

Apparently you didn't read about EMS and how it damaged him.

Do you not remember Sasuke summoning Manda to protect him from the blast. If that blast killed Manda, what makes you think it wouldn't have killed Sasuke? It would have, and don't deny it, although I know you will.

wikipedia is not a trustworthy source i could go that website right now and write some bullcrap on there

Originally posted by yungz22
wikipedia is not a trustworthy source i could go that website right now and write some bullcrap on there

But they get there stuff from the show.

Originally posted by Wil7
It doesn't matter if he says it. Just because someone says it doesn't mean shit.

Deidara will just stand there and get hit, no. He isn't stupid.

He is more versatile when Deidara isn't on the bird. Deidara outran Gaara's sand.

Blow then all up with Creative Destruction. 1. Sure it does.

2. No, he just won't be able to dodge the hundreds of needles.

3. Sasori is more versatile period. When did Deidara outrun his sand? And outrunning the attacking sand is different than dodging sand attacks. Weighted Lee could do that.

4. Refresh my memory on what that is please?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Sure it does.

2. No, he just won't be able to dodge the hundreds of needles.

3. Sasori is more versatile period. When did Deidara outrun his sand? And outrunning the attacking sand is different than dodging sand attacks. Weighted Lee could do that.

4. Refresh my memory on what that is please?

Haku is better than Zabuza then.

Deizara would summon the clay centipede around him.

Somewhere in this video...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2701953900631843522

Creative destruction is a jutsu that rains spiders that are made of clay everywhere. They can blow up.

Originally posted by Wil7
But they get there stuff from the show.
Actually they get their info from every yahoo who thinks he knows something about Naruto.

The show hasn't even gotten past Hidan/Kakuzu. I don't know about the anime but in the manga EMS isn't shown to be damaged, and the manga is what we go based off of.

Originally posted by Wil7
Haku is better than Zabuza then.

Deizara would summon the clay centipede around him.

Somewhere in this video...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2701953900631843522

Creative destruction is a jutsu that rains spiders that are made of clay everywhere. They can blow up. 1. Yep. Cause of one incredibly cheap jutsu.

2. Too bad he couldn't do it as fast as it would take to rain needles into him.

3. Oh. well regardless, the puppets will be around DEIDARA, so if he tried to blow them up, it would only kill him.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
So I guess Deidara was just talkin out of his ass when he said Sasori was much stronger?

Yeah, basically.



One bomb to the face will blow Sasori in half. Wait- what.



He's pathetically weak up close.



What will Sasori do when him and all of his puppets are vaporized?

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Yeah, basically.



One bomb to the face will blow Sasori in half. Wait- what.



He's pathetically weak up close.



What will Sasori do when him and all of his puppets are vaporized? 1. Lol.

2. Which is not as quick as one needle.

3. Deidara is the most pathetic member of Akatsuki when it comes to H2H fighting. At least Sasori has puppet armor he can wear when fighting up close...

4. Won't happen. The puppets with their speed and numbers will surround Deidara, what is he gonna do? Blow himself up too?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
2. Which is not as quick as one needle.

And we see regular ninja like pre-Chuunin exam level Sawsgod dodge and deflect hundreds of needles...



Sasori is a clsoe-range fighter. That is his thing. Deidera is a long-range fighter. That's like docking Cyclops for getting his ass kicked by Wolverine in a boxing match.



This is of course assuming that Deidera will stand in place and not use that wonderful natural ninja speed that they all have. This is of course assuming Deidera doesn't drop a small mind field of those little spider bombs around him.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
And we see regular ninja like pre-Chuunin exam level Sawsgod dodge and deflect hundreds of needles...



Sasori is a clsoe-range fighter. That is his thing. Deidera is a long-range fighter. That's like docking Cyclops for getting his ass kicked by Wolverine in a boxing match.



This is of course assuming that Deidera will stand in place and not use that wonderful natural ninja speed that they all have. This is of course assuming Deidera doesn't drop a small mind field of those little spider bombs around him. 1. Sasuke was cut up like a fvckin pig. Haku could have killed him any time, but did not WANT to. Then, he used too much chakra and was slowing down, and Sasuke unlocked the Sharingan, which lets him predict moves. Sasuke deflected ONE of Haku's attacks the whole fight if memory serves me right. Oh and btw...Sasuke at that point by feats was faster than Deidara.

2. No he isn't. Sasori is suited for both close and long range. Sasori with his needles and his separate puppets can fight from long range.

3. Natural ninja speed? Not all ninja are that fast. Naruto for instance. And Deidara.

Small mine field? Well puppets kinda just float in the air...

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Sasuke was cut up like a fvckin pig. Haku could have killed him any time, but did not WANT to. Then, he used too much chakra and was slowing down, and Sasuke unlocked the Sharingan, which lets him predict moves. Sasuke deflected ONE of Haku's attacks the whole fight if memory serves me right. Oh and btw...Sasuke at that point by feats was faster than Deidara.

2. No he isn't. Sasori is suited for both close and long range. Sasori with his needles and his separate puppets can fight from long range.

3. Natural ninja speed? Not all ninja are that fast. Naruto for instance. And Deidara.

Small mine field? Well puppets kinda just float in the air...

Sasuke was not faster than Deidara. You are forgetting how fast his bird is.

He is suited for both long and short, but his long is worse than Deidara's. He would just blow up any puppet that comes at him from long range. He would have had a puppet already prepared, because he does get a clay bird ready in advance, blow up Sasori.

Deidara on a bird;faster than Gaara's sand.

He doesn't really need a mine field. He would have thrown the spiders on the puppets and blown them all up, and then Sasori.

These are all of Sasori's jutsu's:
Human Puppets
Iron Sand
Iron Sand Drizzle
Iron Sand Joint Attacks
Iron Sand World Order
Puppet Technique
Red Secret Technique: Performance of a Hundred Puppets
Sand Clone (anime only)
Brainwashing Investigation Technique
Thousand Hands Manipulation Military Art

Puppet armor is not a jutsu of his.
If it was Kakashi vs Haku and Haku used CIM, he would see an attack, grab him, and break his neck.

You know I really wish people wouldn't respond to my posts towards other people...It just annoys me.

Originally posted by Wil7
Sasuke was not faster than Deidara. You are forgetting how fast his bird is.

He is suited for both long and short, but his long is worse than Deidara's. He would just blow up any puppet that comes at him from long range. He would have had a puppet already prepared, because he does get a clay bird ready in advance, blow up Sasori.

Deidara on a bird;faster than Gaara's sand.

He doesn't really need a mine field. He would have thrown the spiders on the puppets and blown them all up, and then Sasori.

These are all of Sasori's jutsu's:
Human Puppets
Iron Sand
Iron Sand Drizzle
Iron Sand Joint Attacks
Iron Sand World Order
Puppet Technique
Red Secret Technique: Performance of a Hundred Puppets
Sand Clone (anime only)
Brainwashing Investigation Technique
Thousand Hands Manipulation Military Art

Puppet armor is not a jutsu of his.
If it was Kakashi vs Haku and Haku used CIM, he would see an attack, grab him, and break his neck.


you fail to realize that all sasori has to do is scratch you once to kill you. and only reason sakura 1 is because she had antidote to that poison

Originally posted by yungz22
you fail to realize that all sasori has to do is scratch you once to kill you. and only reason sakura 1 is because she had antidote to that poison

You fail to realize that he won't be able to scratch him because of the bird, and he would blow up a clone and kill Sasori if he got close enough.