Halo 3 ODST

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Spartan005
Forget about Halo 4, it looks like bungie's working on a new project set from the perspective of the Orbital Shock Drop Troops. Apparently they're going for a much grittier feel, and that sounds awesome to me

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3untitledodstgame/index.html

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3untitledodstgame/video/6198182/halo-3-untitled-odst-game-working-title-official-trailer-1?hd=1

Morridini
Shouldn't the title be ODST?

NonSensi-Klown
If it was just ODST people who don't know what an ODST is won't know what this is...

Morridini
I meant it should be ODST in the title instead of OSDT. He switched the D and S.

WrathfulDwarf
I think I'm going to follow this and see where it goes....

BackFire
Rumor seems to be that this is an expansion pack type thing, similar to the recent Crysis warhead. Where you experience the same scenario from Halo 3 but from a different perspective.

NonSensi-Klown
Except the ODST don't have shields...

So, it'd be pretty interesting.

Darth Vicious
R u guys talking about the expansion pack?
http://www.newsarama.com/games/080925-Halo3Expansion.html

I cant check the links posted since im "working".

THE JLRTENJAC
The ODST game looks pretty cool. It's supposed to be squad-based isn't it?

Spartan005
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3untitledodstgame/video.html?sid=6198886&tag=gumballs;title;1

The extended trailer came out revealing that the official name will be Halo 3 Recon

Shu Qian
This game looks cool

Darth Vicious
Im getting it. Too bad its still a year away.

Kazenji
Halo 3: ODST ViDoc 1 - Desperate Measures

http://au.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3untitledodstgame/video/6214481

Wolverine2179
Too bad its x360 only sad wish i can play it on pc

Smasandian
If Bungie learned how to create good maps then I'll be interested. They can program great AI and get the shooting down pat but level design is something they lack.

Darth Vicious
The special edition for ODST brings a ODST theme controller. Which sux because Halo 3 included the helmet and Moder warfare 2 includes the awesomely looking night vision goggles. On the plus side, I dont feel the need to get the special edition version. It'' save me some money.

jalek moye
This takes palce during halo 2 right? at least at the beggining of the game?

General G
It would have to, right after Regret's ship went into slipspace is when these ODST's hit the ground.

thebeast
Gonna get this.

CadoAngelus
despite the awesomeness of master chief, iot'll be cool to play as someone else

Spartan005
ok so i posted here last night but apparently it didn't work

umm anyway

I really hope this game isn't a dissapointment. Bungie just announced its 3 multiplayer maps... one of them is just a remake of midship from halo 2. great level and all but thats the best they can do? For $60 I would expect them to put the same amount of effort into the multiplayer as they did with halo 3. And yeah, firefight is going to be awesome but they should still have more maps imo

Darth Vicious
The especial edition only brings a ODST version controller. Kinda lame. Im looking forward to the Firefight mode and the 3 maps.

Ms.Marvel
im not.

halo is basically my favorite game franchise of all time.

but im starting to think that bungie is banking on the fact that the title of the game will sell itself meaning theyre not really putting their all into this.

i know its only an expansion but still... it just feels like theyre not even trying.

when starcraft broodwar came out it actually felt like a sequal.

ArtificialGlory
I think they're not milking the Halo franchise hard enough.

CadoAngelus
Well if they made any more spin offs than they have in any shorter period of time, people would accuse bungie of milking the halo franchise too much lol...they're walking a fine line

Mandrag Ganon
Originally posted by CadoAngelus
Well if they made any more spin offs than they have in any shorter period of time, people would accuse bungie of milking the halo franchise too much lol...they're walking a fine line

Many already do say that.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
im not.

halo is basically my favorite game franchise of all time.

but im starting to think that bungie is banking on the fact that the title of the game will sell itself meaning theyre not really putting their all into this.

i know its only an expansion but still... it just feels like theyre not even trying.

when starcraft broodwar came out it actually felt like a sequal.

I think it is looking good. Granted, it won't be as big a launch, but still, the game itself it looking pretty good.

Tsal Can
Ive heard its worth every penny.

CadoAngelus
Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
Many already do say that.

that doesn't surprise me. anyone with a brain can work it out lol

Tsal Can
How is making more solid installments milking the franchise? I'd understand if there was Halo tennis coming out, but really?

CadoAngelus
Halo 1, 2, 3, Halo Wars, Halo ODST, Halo Reach, Halo Books, Halo Graphic Novels, Halo Characters in various other games (namely a Spartan warrior in a fighting game - can't remember which)...i could go on given the time

ArtificialGlory
The Halo RTS game officially began the milking in my eyes.

MasterAshenVor
What I don't understand is how could the ODST's Survive the blast from Regret's Slip Stream Drive?

Anyone got any clue? because even if the pod did keep them alive they should have been blown off course big time.

Dark Exile
Originally posted by CadoAngelus
Halo 1, 2, 3, Halo Wars, Halo ODST, Halo Reach, Halo Books, Halo Graphic Novels, Halo Characters in various other games (namely a Spartan warrior in a fighting game - can't remember which)...i could go on given the time

Well hell, if your going to list the books as well as the comic books you might as well list the slurpee.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1317/1400435896_8d3fd9fecb.jpg

But in all seriousness I havent seen any "milking" yet, at least not to the extent of that whore Mario.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Dark Exile
But in all seriousness I havent seen any "milking" yet, at least not to the extent of that whore Mario.

There's nothing that can quite match Mario in that aspect in the gaming world.

Zack Fair
Why is an expansion worth 60 bucks?

CadoAngelus
Originally posted by Dark Exile
Well hell, if your going to list the books as well as the comic books you might as well list the slurpee.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1317/1400435896_8d3fd9fecb.jpg

But in all seriousness I havent seen any "milking" yet, at least not to the extent of that whore Mario.

lol, that is epic fail

also, mario isn't just a whore, he's an escort as well...he goes from every angle on the whole selling himself

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Why is an expansion worth 60 bucks?

it's being released as a seperate game now - at least in the UK

Zack Fair
Yes I know that...I still have this nasty feeling its going to be lackluster, but meh.

Dark Exile
Its no longer an expansion, that's why.

ArtificialGlory
It's a stand-alone expansion.

MasterAshenVor
ANSWER MEH QUESTION!
THINK WITH YOUR DIPSTICK JIMMY!

Spartan005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKkLykw33cI

CadoAngelus
yeah...

i'm not sure what to think of that trailer. when bungie released that whole viral campaign with live action videos with older guys (most likely never been in a war) telling "stories" about the convenant war and master chief's "sacrifice", it made me feel sick to my stomach that they themselves think their own franchise is epic enough to make it seem like it could be a real thing. too far bungie...too far.

Ms.Marvel
i disagree. its just science fiction. do you feel the same way when people act that way in sci-fi war movies?

NemeBro
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
There's nothing that can quite match Mario in that aspect in the gaming world. To be fair, at least Mario is a great game series. smile

I might pre-order this just to play as Johnson honestly.

Ms.Marvel
i dunno.

mario sunshine was really shitty.

NemeBro
Touche'.

Although I still did work my ass off just to get the glasses and shirt. no expression

Ms.Marvel
laughing out loud

Ridley_Prime
So did I. sad

CadoAngelus
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
i disagree. its just science fiction. do you feel the same way when people act that way in sci-fi war movies?

No, but when they make Mocumenturies about sci-fi as if it were real it just give me a feeling that they're trying too hard to make it epic. in my opinion if something is epic enough it doesn't even need that sort of build up - halo for example is one of the most popular game franchises since god knows when.

Ms.Marvel
i cant really agree with that... but hey opinions are opnions. smile

personally i cant wait for them to make a live action halo movie.

NemeBro
I hope Uwe Boll makes it to crush your hopes and dreams. estahuh

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by NemeBro
I hope Uwe Boll makes it to crush your hopes and dreams. estahuh

I have no idea what the hell you people keep talking about. Uwe Boll's movies are good.

NemeBro
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I have no idea what the hell you people keep talking about. Uwe Boll's movies are good. You know that thing you do where you come into threads and say so-and-so is garbage, referring to a fiction?

You just lost all credibility on taste my good man.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by NemeBro
You know that thing you do where you come into threads and say so-and-so is garbage, referring to a fiction?

You just lost all credibility on taste my good man.

I was joking, Einstein. I was crying for about an hour on the coldest tile in my bathroom after that Alone in the Dark movie.

Ms.Marvel
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I have no idea what the hell you people keep talking about. Uwe Boll's movies are good.

crylaugh



http://www.anaitgames.com/wp-content/darth_vader_nooo.jpeg

NemeBro
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I was joking, Einstein. I was crying for about an hour on the coldest tile in my bathroom after that Alone in the Dark movie. I figured that, when I ever say something like "my good man," chances are I am speaking to you in a facetious manner.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by NemeBro
I figured that, when I ever say something like "my good man," chances are I am speaking to you in a facetious manner.

Can never be sure with you.

NemeBro
Although your taste DOES suck. estahuh

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by NemeBro
Although your taste DOES suck. estahuh

When I first came to KMC, I was appalled by what garbage people liked here. Oh well, not everyone can be as refined as I am.

Halo, LoZ, FF, Mario, Pokemon? ***** please. How do you people live with yourselves?

At least nobody here likes Twilight. Bit of a redeeming factor.

CadoAngelus
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
When I first came to KMC, I was appalled by what garbage people liked here. Oh well, not everyone can be as refined as I am.

Halo, LoZ, FF, Mario, Pokemon? ***** please. How do you people live with yourselves?

At least nobody here likes Twilight. Bit of a redeeming factor.

You have a point to make. But, they may be franchises to be ashamed about now, but in the day these games were da shit. I can remember playing Super Mario til i went blue in the face. Now a characters shroom trip is a bit tedious to say the least.

Halo is still fun though if i have a blinding anger where the red-mist descends over my eyes lol...

NemeBro
Liking Zelda is shameful? Because liking one of the best and most innovative gaming series on the planet is horrible, right?

Same for Mario, and Final Fantasy actually(Depends on the installment though).

SaTsuJiN
So.. anyone not getting this game?.. I'm teetering on that particular side atm.. I'd rather waste my money on tekken 6

Spartan005
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
So.. anyone not getting this game?.. I'm teetering on that particular side atm.. I'd rather waste my money on tekken 6

not me obviously

even though i doubt it will be as good as halo 3 (hell any of them for that matter) its still absolutely going to be worth the money.... or so i hope

BackFire
I'm vaguely interested in this. It looks a bit more inventive and creative than anything else done in the Halo series so far, so that's good.

Nemesis X
Halo 3 ODST looks like it'll be better than Halo 3 because ODST's story looks intriguing while Halo 3's story felt plain and dull to me.

I've been hearing that new enemies will appear in this. What are the Covenant cooking up this time?

Wolverine2179
So no pc version?

Mandrag Ganon
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
When I first came to KMC, I was appalled by what garbage people liked here. Oh well, not everyone can be as refined as I am.

Halo, LoZ, FF, Mario, Pokemon? ***** please. How do you people live with yourselves?

At least nobody here likes Twilight. Bit of a redeeming factor.

And what games do you enjoy ArtificialGlory?

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Halo 3 ODST looks like it'll be better than Halo 3 because ODST's story looks intriguing while Halo 3's story felt plain and dull to me.

I've been hearing that new enemies will appear in this. What are the Covenant cooking up this time?

Only "new" covenant unit I have heard about are the engineers. But those are familiar characters to anyone who has read the books and played Halo Wars.

SaTsuJiN
the story looks good to me.. and firefight mode (halo-horde) looks really fun as well.. but I'm just wondering what kind of gameplay they're offering for the price of a new game

Ms.Marvel
its an expansion sats. its the same gameplay just tweaked a little bit.

Mandrag Ganon
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
its an expansion sats. its the same gameplay just tweaked a little bit.

Somewhat. I mean, they've brought back the Halo 1 pistol. Added the Engineers, Added health stations since ODSTs don't have energy shields, etc.

Dark Exile
Not to mention no dual wielding. I have also heard that the X button when hit brings up VISR instead of dropping equipment(bubble shield, flare, etc.)

Seems to me that it is closer to the first installment in the series, and in my opinion the best.

Smasandian
I'm on the fence for this game. I feel like playing it but I don't want to spend alot for XBOX Live.

It's not an expansion because if it was, it wouldn't be 69 bucks.

SaTsuJiN
Yeah thats kinda my gripe too.. like I do want to experience this game.. because I like what they added.. but I'm not sure they changed it enough to warrant 60 bucks

Smasandian
I'll wait for reviews.

If the SP is roughly 10 hours, and Firefight mode and online (even though its Halo 3), its not that bad of deal unless you already have Halo 3.

Tsal Can
I enjoy Halo first and foremost for the story, everything else comes second. I sense a good story, so, "what the hell" is my attitude towards this game. It would be an even better buy if I hadn't purchased the maps plus the collectors edition of Halo Wars. But, "what the hell."

TheOneBumGun
No game is worth 60.

**** that I'll get it using my discount in the game shop I work in. Even then I am going to wait until its cheaper.

CadoAngelus

TheOneBumGun
I don't play Halo much at all but this looks more interesting.

I never cared about the extra stuff.

Spartan005
if you have your doubts about this game then watch this:

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3untitledodstgame/video/6228613/halo-3-odst-terra-incognita-movie?hd=1&tag=videos;hd;1

I honestly wasn't hyped up at all for this game until I saw that video. I still don't know if its seperate levels or one huge city,... but it just looks really awesome

Ms.Marvel
the game is free roam/sandbox style so its all one level.

looks pretty good. i like the fact that theyre returning the mechanics to mirror halo 1's gamestyle. i liked it more that way.

SaTsuJiN
the story is going to be co-op as well? or only firefight?

Ms.Marvel
i think the story is only one player but im not sure.

Ridley_Prime
This game sure has a nice commercial at least.

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Nemesis X
This game has a shorter campaign than the previous Halo 3's campaign. What a disappointment. This feels more like a rental to me now.

Spartan005
Originally posted by Nemesis X
This game has a shorter campaign than the previous Halo 3's campaign. What a disappointment. This feels more like a rental to me now.

yeah as dissapointing as this is, especially in comparison to halo 3.... its still going to give me hours on end of gameplay

and no one ever mentions how short the COD games are... i beat the 5th in 5 hours but it was still worth the money

Smasandian
The difference is the CoD games add MP that is not from the game before it.

Firefight looks good but it's a clone of Horde but it's not worth it. For 69.99, I expect a completely new game and not just a 5 hour SP game, one new mode (I heard uses the levels from the SP game) and a portion of the previous game.

If it was 49.99, then that would be cool.

Nemesis X
The first Halo 3 had a short campaign but to make the next one shorter...You know what, I take back everything I said about delays. Bungie should've delayed this in order to get a longer campaign.

Spartan005
You mean $60 right? anyway i hear there's 8 lvls for horde mode plus 3 new standard multiplayer maps... so its the same amount as last game.

And firefight is supposed to be awesome. I personally can't imagine it being better than nazi zombies from CoD... except for the fact that vehicles are in it

i have it preordered so i'll give some thoughts on it tomorrow

Smasandian
Where I live it's 69.99.

It's not worth that much. Shorter campaign, MP that people already have and 1 new mode. That's an expansion pack.

Nemesis X
Originally posted by Smasandian
Where I live it's 69.99.

It's not worth that much. Shorter campaign, MP that people already have and 1 new mode. That's an expansion pack.

Ouch.

Guess you'll have to wait until the price drops and that probably won't happen until next year. Guess you better hope someone gives it to you for Christmas.

I'm not gonna bother buying this game. I can either go rent it or wait until Christmas and add ODST on my list.

BackFire
Originally posted by Smasandian
Where I live it's 69.99.

It's not worth that much. Shorter campaign, MP that people already have and 1 new mode. That's an expansion pack.

Yeah, I agree. The price is a bit much unless you never had the original game. Should be closer to $40 or something.

TheOneBumGun
I don't know if I should buy this now or in a few weeks and get Orochi Warriors tomorrow instead.

**** it I have never been massively into Halo, OW it is.

Smasandian
Originally posted by BackFire
Yeah, I agree. The price is a bit much unless you never had the original game. Should be closer to $40 or something.

39.99 would be a good price for it.

Mandrag Ganon
Originally posted by Smasandian
Where I live it's 69.99.

It's not worth that much. Shorter campaign, MP that people already have and 1 new mode. That's an expansion pack.

I thuroughly enjoy the game. And the campaign is... what? about 8 hours, versus the 9-10 hour Halo 3?

Personally, I've taken all the Halo games down in single digit hours (except for Halo Wars) and I still consider them all great buys. ODST is no different. I especially like the gameplay of it over the others because you have to fight more conservatively than in Halo 1, 2, & 3, inwhich you can just charge down your foes without any trouble.

And don't forget the Reach Beta. For me, the Halo 3 beta was what made Crackdown worth the full price.

Dark Exile
Excellent game, worth the money IMHO, true Halo fans will appreciate the campaign.

Darth Vicious
Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
I thuroughly enjoy the game. And the campaign is... what? about 8 hours, versus the 9-10 hour Halo 3?

Personally, I've taken all the Halo games down in single digit hours (except for Halo Wars) and I still consider them all great buys. ODST is no different. I especially like the gameplay of it over the others because you have to fight more conservatively than in Halo 1, 2, & 3, inwhich you can just charge down your foes without any trouble.

And don't forget the Reach Beta. For me, the Halo 3 beta was what made Crackdown worth the full price.

I agree. I beat on about 8 hrs. Seemed fairly easier than other Halo games. Ill start the legendary mode maybe tomorrow. I got all the skulls already. I wouldve preferred the multiplayer disk allowed u to download the maps to any other systems.

Mandrag Ganon
Originally posted by Darth Vicious
I agree. I beat on about 8 hrs. Seemed fairly easier than other Halo games. Ill start the legendary mode maybe tomorrow. I got all the skulls already. I wouldve preferred the multiplayer disk allowed u to download the maps to any other systems.

I actually find it a bit harder than the other Halos. As I said before, in the other games, you could simply rush head-long into battle, wheras this one you really can't.

The fact that you don't have energy shields makes a big difference, In Halo 2 & 3 you could just rush your enemy, duck behind a rock for a couple of seconds and you would be back at full health rushing the enemy again. Halo 1 you wouldn't be at full health, but you would have a good buffer on your health. ODST you don't have much of anything, except your own health and the slight buffer of stamina, which lasts for about 2 shots and takes forever to recover.

In the other Halos you could relatively easily hold off 2 hunters with an Assault Rifle (or an SMG in Halo 2), wheras in ODST it took me an hour, a myriad of differing weapons, and alot of close calls, mainly due to the previously mentioned "No energy shields" thing.

In the other games if you got a vehicle you were pretty well against the Covenant. In ODST vehicles seem to only make you a bigger target, albeit with a bigger gun, but still...

I'm using stunts to survive in ODST that I never consitered in Halo 1, 2, or 3, simply because they made the games too easy (I.E. using a charged plasma shot and a Plasma/Spike grenade to take out a vehicle).

I am playing it on Legendary right now and enjoying every second of it. That may be why I consiter it harder because I first played through Halo on easy (it was early in my FPS days, before that game I prefered Third-person shooters.) Halo 2 on normal and Halo 3 on Heroic, which gave me a good idea what to expect when I played my Legendary playthrough on each respective game...

Nemesis X
An 8 hour campaign...What the heck?

Darth Vicious
Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
I actually find it a bit harder than the other Halos. As I said before, in the other games, you could simply rush head-long into battle, wheras this one you really can't.

The fact that you don't have energy shields makes a big difference, In Halo 2 & 3 you could just rush your enemy, duck behind a rock for a couple of seconds and you would be back at full health rushing the enemy again. Halo 1 you wouldn't be at full health, but you would have a good buffer on your health. ODST you don't have much of anything, except your own health and the slight buffer of stamina, which lasts for about 2 shots and takes forever to recover.

In the other Halos you could relatively easily hold off 2 hunters with an Assault Rifle (or an SMG in Halo 2), wheras in ODST it took me an hour, a myriad of differing weapons, and alot of close calls, mainly due to the previously mentioned "No energy shields" thing.

In the other games if you got a vehicle you were pretty well against the Covenant. In ODST vehicles seem to only make you a bigger target, albeit with a bigger gun, but still...

I'm using stunts to survive in ODST that I never consitered in Halo 1, 2, or 3, simply because they made the games too easy (I.E. using a charged plasma shot and a Plasma/Spike grenade to take out a vehicle).

I am playing it on Legendary right now and enjoying every second of it. That may be why I consiter it harder because I first played through Halo on easy (it was early in my FPS days, before that game I prefered Third-person shooters.) Halo 2 on normal and Halo 3 on Heroic, which gave me a good idea what to expect when I played my Legendary playthrough on each respective game...

That could be it. I played it on normal to get a good feel of the game and do some of the achievements. Im sure ill be using the health packs/stations more as in normal mode I barely touched them.

Mandrag Ganon
Originally posted by Darth Vicious
That could be it. I played it on normal to get a good feel of the game and do some of the achievements. Im sure ill be using the health packs/stations more as in normal mode I barely touched them.

In Legendary, health stations, Sniper Rifles, and Spartan Lasers are Godsends. And even those sometimes aren't enough...

Originally posted by Nemesis X
An 8 hour campaign...What the heck?

That's about standard Halo game length. None of them are very long at all.

Spartan005
I beat it on heroic in just about 6 hours. It was short but I'd say this was the best out of all the halo games so far in terms of level design. Nothing ever feels repetitive, there's a good variety of environments, and each section is pretty large with a lot of detail.

The cutscenes were awesome, especially the opening, and martin o'donell once again made a great score.

the only thing I didn't like was how they told the story through flashbacks. at first playing as the rookie at night was cool but eventually you just want to get into the action again. those sections had pretty much no purpose other than to look nice.

I didn't get into firefight just yet but so far everything else is great

Nemesis X
Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
That's about standard Halo game length. None of them are very long at all.

Yeah but to make this campaign shorter than the one from the previous Halo 3 game feels wrong. Even Halo 2's campaign felt longer than those two. No way am I spending sixty dollars on a game that can't deliver a good long campaign. This game has "RENTAL" written all over it. I don't think the game sucks, I'm just disappointed that's all.

Kazenji
Well it is a Expansion and for those people who have played those sort of things on PC they are of course alot shorter then the main game.

TheOneBumGun
The thing is they said its not an expansion, that its a full game if I remember.

Had a chance to buy this earlier, I considered it but I can't see myself playing it much.

FistOfThe North
Well "x-play" says it's like an expansion with the real sequel (or in this case, prequel) being Halo Reach.

i have it odst but can't play it onlone yet. i'll be able to get on live tomorrow when it's safe.

Nemesis X
Originally posted by Kazenji
Well it is a Expansion and for those people who have played those sort of things on PC they are of course alot shorter then the main game.

Then it should've cost $40, not 60. Adding the extra 20 feels like a rip off.

Darth Vicious
Originally posted by Nemesis X
Then it should've cost $40, not 60. Adding the extra 20 feels like a rip off.

Thats how I see the game. $40 for the actual game and $20 for the map disc. When the map pack disc came out for Halo 2 it was about $20 I believe. For those of us that already had the maps it wouldnt matter but for those that didnt, its a bargain.

Smasandian
But for a Halo game, I would think most dedicated ODST buyers are Halo fans who already have Halo 3 and the maps.

Nemesis X
Originally posted by Darth Vicious
Thats how I see the game. $40 for the actual game and $20 for the map disc. When the map pack disc came out for Halo 2 it was about $20 I believe. For those of us that already had the maps it wouldnt matter but for those that didnt, its a bargain.

What Halo 3 gamer doesn't have those maps? It's stupid that they have this game feel like a rip off just because they're giving us something we already have. That'd be like saying an expansion to Epic's Gears of War 2 costs $60 just because it has a few extra maps for Horde Mode which I'm sure all of us already have.

Smasandian
The way I see is this is Halo's version of the Orange Box.

The difference is that the Orange Box came with Episode 1, 2, Portal and TF2. The only thing that was released on a console before Orange Box was Half Life 2 but that was a console generation before the current one.

I think it was the same price...I think. That was a crazy good deal for console gamers. For PC, well, less of a deal because HL2 and Episode 1 was already released and cheap but Portal, TF2 and Episode 2 was well worth the 59.99 price.

Darth Vicious
Originally posted by Nemesis X
What Halo 3 gamer doesn't have those maps? It's stupid that they have this game feel like a rip off just because they're giving us something we already have. That'd be like saying an expansion to Epic's Gears of War 2 costs $60 just because it has a few extra maps for Horde Mode which I'm sure all of us already have.

Trust me, I play with some fools that to this day dont have all the maps. Some are too cheap and others have 2nd, 3rd accounts. They shouldve given us the option to buy the game without the map pack. Then again with the map pack disc u dont have to keep downloading the maps everytime u make a new profile. I believe u can even delete the maps that we downloaded and just use the new disc. Free up some memory.

Mandrag Ganon
Originally posted by Darth Vicious
Thats how I see the game. $40 for the actual game and $20 for the map disc. When the map pack disc came out for Halo 2 it was about $20 I believe. For those of us that already had the maps it wouldnt matter but for those that didnt, its a bargain.

The way I see it is $40 for the game $10 for the last 3 Mythic maps and $10 for the Reach Beta invite. The other maps are bonus for anyone who does not own Halo 3.

Mandrag Ganon
Apologies, for this post. It was Accidental. College web browser giving me trouble. sad

Mandrag Ganon
Originally posted by Nemesis X
What Halo 3 gamer doesn't have those maps? It's stupid that they have this game feel like a rip off just because they're giving us something we already have. That'd be like saying an expansion to Epic's Gears of War 2 costs $60 just because it has a few extra maps for Horde Mode which I'm sure all of us already have.

Nemesis, $40 for the campaign, $10 for the NEW maps which aren't avaliable any other way, and $10 for the beta. Alot of people payed $60 for the Halo 3 beta, because, lets face it, Crackdown was a fun game, but the real reason it sold so many copies was for the beta. No one I know would have even considered buying Crackdown were it not for the Halo 3 Beta.

Smasandian
Your paying 10 bucks for a beta? So essentially your paying money for a buggy beta and your "job" is to help fix those bugs.

Darth Vicious
Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
The way I see it is $40 for the game $10 for the last 3 Mythic maps and $10 for the Reach Beta invite. The other maps are bonus for anyone who does not own Halo 3.
Damn, I know there was a paper "invitation" for Reach but u can actually play the beta version now? I need to check that disc when I get home.

Mandrag Ganon
Originally posted by Darth Vicious
Damn, I know there was a paper "invitation" for Reach but u can actually play the beta version now? I need to check that disc when I get home.

I don't know when the beta starts, but with purchasing ODST you will be able to play it when it actually launches.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Your paying 10 bucks for a beta? So essentially your paying money for a buggy beta and your "job" is to help fix those bugs.

Not Necessiarily. I didn't run into a single bug in the Halo 3 Beta, nor have I run into one in the Uncharted Beta. I also didn't run into any bugs when I tried the Aion beta, but I will admit that my computer had such trouble running it that I could have run into a bug and never known it. Playing the beta is essentially getting a head start on playing the multiplayer of Reach.

Yes, Betas are a field-test, but by that point, a great portion of the bugs have already been fixed. They make these public betas for 2 reasons (1) Allowing thousands of people online at once opens the opportunity for things to happen that the team never consitered and (2) to get the public excited for the game and hopefully up sales of the game when it is actually released.

Smasandian
No it's not.

It's software that has passed alpha stage and is ready for live testing. That's what a beta is.

A demo is the portion of the game and used as a marketing tool. Beta's are turning into those but in the end, there used to test. You might not find any big bugs but there is, probably on the network side of things.

Essentially, your paying 10 bucks to test the game for Bungie when usually they are free.

Tsal Can
Originally posted by Nemesis X
What Halo 3 gamer doesn't have those maps? It's stupid that they have this game feel like a rip off just because they're giving us something we already have. That'd be like saying an expansion to Epic's Gears of War 2 costs $60 just because it has a few extra maps for Horde Mode which I'm sure all of us already have.

ODST's main focus was the campaign, even with a new campaign added to Gears 2(making it like 2.5) still wouldnt sell due to the fact that Epic fails at story telling. I am being serious when I say that ODST has the most fun campaign since Halo 1. Truly epic on the last level. I am truly tired of people b*tching about price, something that is never a set factor. A review factor should never be price anyway. Wait a few months and then get it, it should be cheap enough for you then.

Spartan005
anyone else not like the rookie sections? like I said before it was cool at first but enemies just drop randomly and not very often, which makes it a long tedious jog from point A to B.

Mandrag Ganon
Originally posted by Smasandian
No it's not.

It's software that has passed alpha stage and is ready for live testing. That's what a beta is.

A demo is the portion of the game and used as a marketing tool. Beta's are turning into those but in the end, there used to test. You might not find any big bugs but there is, probably on the network side of things.

Essentially, your paying 10 bucks to test the game for Bungie when usually they are free.

I will willingly pay 10 bucks for a chance to try out a game a year before it is actually released.

Originally posted by Tsal Can
ODST's main focus was the campaign, even with a new campaign added to Gears 2(making it like 2.5) still wouldnt sell due to the fact that Epic fails at story telling. I am being serious when I say that ODST has the most fun campaign since Halo 1. Truly epic on the last level. I am truly tired of people b*tching about price, something that is never a set factor. A review factor should never be price anyway. Wait a few months and then get it, it should be cheap enough for you then.

Indeed

Originally posted by Spartan005
anyone else not like the rookie sections? like I said before it was cool at first but enemies just drop randomly and not very often, which makes it a long tedious jog from point A to B.

I like the Rookie sections. It gives the game an eerie end-of-the-world feeling to go through the locations as one of the other ODSTs and then see it as the Rookie.

Probably one of the most fun points in that game for me was when I was riding through on a mongoose as the Rookie with only half a clip in my sniper rifle and a silenced SMG and was being chased by two hunters, a crap-load of brutes and grunts, and sniperfire ricocheting everywhere.

Tsal Can
Wont the Beta be out in 2010, same year the game is released. I wouldn't really call it a year before.

Darth Vicious
FK! I just got all the achievements on Halo 3 and I didnt get no reckon armor. Its there a f*ing glitch?

Ms.Marvel
ive had it up to here with this bullshit free roam crap. talk about a game breaker.

tis taken me an hour and a half to find this ****ing beacon and nothing.

out of curiosity do you HAVE to go to the beacon locations in a specific order?

CadoAngelus
i'm playing through the game atm and i've got no problems with the game playing or free roam ability.

the one thing that did set me back a little and i had to get used to is the VISR mode, i got slightly disoriented when i played it first, but now it's actually very helpful.

and one other thing that confused me was the story layout, playing as rookie to fill the gaps between the other main characters confused me, it took some time for me to realise the rookie was the device used to link the characters storys

Zack Fair
Random Fact:

I chuckle every time I read the thread's title.

Ms.Marvel
laughing out loud

alright well i beat the game once on heroic and i started it up today on legendary.

im not playing with my cousin this time so i can focus on the story mode better and now that i understand how things work its actually pretty fun.

i still dont like the free roam segments though. too few enemies far and between. props to bungie for tyring to do something different. but still.

Darth Vicious
Just beat it on legendary. Found it far easier than Halo 3. The snipers on Halo 3 were no joke on legendary, not so much on this one.

Tsal Can
Funny, I found Halo 3 to be the easiest on Legendary.

jabjabcross
I am loving the Firefight mode on this game. It's exhausting in the most fun of ways. My friend and I played it for a good hour yesterday.

Mandrag Ganon
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
ive had it up to here with this bullshit free roam crap. talk about a game breaker.

tis taken me an hour and a half to find this ****ing beacon and nothing.

out of curiosity do you HAVE to go to the beacon locations in a specific order?

Well, there is a map...

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
Just beat it on legendary. Found it far easier than Halo 3. The snipers on Halo 3 were no joke on legendary, not so much on this one.

I thought that Halo 3 was a cake walk compared to this one.

Darth Vicious
Originally posted by jabjabcross
I am loving the Firefight mode on this game. It's exhausting in the most fun of ways. My friend and I played it for a good hour yesterday.

Same here. I was finally able to play it with 3 other friends. We had over a million points on Lost Platoon.

Mandrag Ganon
Originally posted by Darth Vicious
Same here. I was finally able to play it with 3 other friends. We had over a million points on Lost Platoon.

I honestly like multiplayer games such as firefight beter than Free-for-all deathmatches. There is just something more enjoyable to me about standing with a small group of people, surviving hordes of increasingly aggressive enemies than fighting with a team of 12 people against another team of 12 people, or 10 people thrown into an area all killing each other... again, and again, and again.... and again...

BackFire
Got this earlier from Gamefly, so far it's solid. It's a nice departure from other Halo games. A lot more difficult, but in a good way.

Mandrag Ganon
I finished finding Sadie's story the other day, and I have to say, I think I liked that as much as, if not a bit more than the Game's story

BackFire
I finished this last night, was pretty solid. A nice departure from earlier Halo games.

I do wish they had the battle rifle in the game, though. Missed that gun.

Mandrag Ganon
I agree, but then again, having the scoped pistol worked for me, since I mostly used the Battle Rifle for head-shot purposes. Though, I never used the scope to get headshots with the Battle Rifle, just strafed it across their head.

Darth Vicious
I wonder why they didnt include the BR in this game. It wouldve been sweeter if they had included it.

steverules_2
I bought this yesterday...hopefully it comes soon smile

Mandrag Ganon
Originally posted by Darth Vicious
I wonder why they didnt include the BR in this game. It wouldve been sweeter if they had included it.

My guess would be because they gave the pistol it's scope back. You don't really need the Battle Rifle with that headshot machine on-hand.

Darth Vicious
Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
My guess would be because they gave the pistol it's scope back. You don't really need the Battle Rifle with that headshot machine on-hand.

The BR has more power. I was surprised by the range of the pistol though.

BackFire
The pistol seemed very weak. Great against grunts, but awful against fully armored brutes.

Mandrag Ganon
Well, it was a side arm...

CadoAngelus
Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
Well, it was a side arm...

exactly. the halo trilogy had ridiculously overpowered weapons at hand because the character is supposed to be ridiculously overpowered. the ODST on the other hand are supposed to be more of a realistic fighting force - covert and equipped for short sharp missions...

Ms.Marvel
yes

Spartan005
I still prefer the BR as well. It looks cooler if anything else

I got a chance to play a few firefight maps with some friends and its really awesome, 10x better than horde mode from GoW. Although I'm not sure if it can compete with nazi zombies, but I never made it up to set 5 yet so we'll see.

That black eye skull sucks by the way... the one that makes you melee to get stamina back

Zack Fair
The BR is a poor man's H1 Pistol. 313

Mandrag Ganon
Originally posted by Spartan005
I still prefer the BR as well. It looks cooler if anything else

I got a chance to play a few firefight maps with some friends and its really awesome, 10x better than horde mode from GoW. Although I'm not sure if it can compete with nazi zombies, but I never made it up to set 5 yet so we'll see.

That black eye skull sucks by the way... the one that makes you melee to get stamina back

The one that I hated the most was... Tilt? The one that causes enemy shields to deflect bullets. Black Eye didn't bother me too much, because when ever my Stamina was gone, there was always a Grunt nearby that I could get to, I also hung on to the Hammer and used it as a Stamina pack.

steverules_2
I think I played halo 3 on legendary after I completed on easy I think it was, can't remember which level it was but I had to destroy like...3 covenant vehicles so that some ship could land and drop off a tank and a few other vehicles, it's the first time you get to use the tank in halo 3. That level was a total *****, I kept getting my ass handed to me, eventually I played it on all the other different difficulty levels then after picking up a few new skills and some more experience finally beat the sucker smile

Darth Vicious
Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
The one that I hated the most was... Tilt? The one that causes enemy shields to deflect bullets. Black Eye didn't bother me too much, because when ever my Stamina was gone, there was always a Grunt nearby that I could get to, I also hung on to the Hammer and used it as a Stamina pack.

Thats the one I hate as well. Ive wasted whole clips on them bastards and they wont even flinch. I agree about the Black Eye, grunts are all over the place.

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