Hinata and Neji vs Shikamaru and Choji

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Wil7
Hinata and Neji take on Shikamaru and Choji on the great naruto bridge.
Who wins?

Dark-Jaxx
Shikamaru would come up with some bullshit plan to win.

Wil7
What kind of "bullshit plan" I don't think by himself he could beat them both, Hinata of course, but he would need Choji, and still I am not sure.

psycho gundam
neji solos.

-easily takes out shikamaru first

-choji without a skilled planner gets double teamed by organ/chackra disabling moves.

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Wil7
Originally posted by psycho gundam
neji solos.

-easily takes out shikamaru first

-choji without a skilled planner gets double teamed by organ/chackra disabling moves.

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it won't be easy to take out shikamaru. if naruto can do it, so can shikamaru. choji can take hinata, but not neji.

psycho gundam
neji would destroy shikamaru, i don't really see a way for shikamaru to formulate a stratagem to take him on let alone defeat him.

neji is a jonin also, he achieved it with power, skill, and brains, not just brains in shikamaru's case.

choji is the main concern since his meat tank jutsu can be coupled with a size transformation.

Dark-Jaxx
Shikamaru beat an elite S class jonin like Hidan, one who is strong, fast(despite his claim to be Akatsuki's slowest in attacking), and above all, was immortal.

Neji is not.

Shikamaru could form a plan to beat Neji. Shit, Kidomaru was able to do it, he found the blindspot.

Now, it is not totally likely, but it is possible.

NonSensi-Klown
I don't think Neji an avoid the kagemane for long, but if he touches Shikamaru it's over.

Shikamaru has had the luxury of fighting long range fighters, and usually formulates his plans while hiding... he has yet to show any genius in fighting an opponent who will constantly be right up in his face and has a kekke genkai that allows him to instantly find whatever hiding place he has. Neji's also faster.

So.. it's a toss-up. Hinata is the weak link, though.

Dark-Jaxx
Your mom's the weak link.

NonSensi-Klown
My mother's a saint.

Dark-Jaxx
True.

But you're a heathen whore.

ultimatethor
Neji and hinata win. Shikamarus "plans" frankly are mostly just plot based. In a neutral battle zone, while he cud avoid Neji for a short while, Nejis skill, speed, and defensive advantages will give him a quick win. Chouji then gets double teamed. Neji is a jonin and is on a higher level than d rest of them combatants.

Dark-Jaxx
While I am not arguing your other points, the fact that he is a Jonin is irrelevant.

Naruto is a genin and has beaten beings above Jonin.

Shikamaru beat an S class despite only being a Chunin.

ultimatethor
Yeah but naruto beating beings above jonin when he was a genin is just done to advance the plot.( Or do u mean current naruto who is technically still a genin by rank but obviously much higher dan that when based on skills). Also the same goes for shikamaru. If it was a one on one forum fight then shikamaru would have absolutely no chance against Kakuzu. When i said neji was a jonin i was just trying to emphasize his superior skill and hence superior rank( narutos case is a special one)

NonSensi-Klown
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Yeah but naruto beating beings above jonin when he was a genin is just done to advance the plot.

Um... no it's not. It's because he was simply better than them. I'd say that even Genin level naruto could beat, say, Kabuto, 1 on 1 without PIS.

Dark-Jaxx
Yeah, and Hidan, despite being an S class, was an arrogant moron, so Shikamaru was the perfect person to take him down.

And Gaara was technically a Genin, yet Chunin and up Assassins were not shit to him.

Hell, Pein/Nagato, before even being trained in any Ninjutsu, killed a Chunin.

ultimatethor
Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Um... no it's not. It's because he was simply better than them. I'd say that even Genin level naruto could beat, say, Kabuto, 1 on 1 without PIS.

Genin level naruto beat kabuto? No way. or should i say No way in hell.

Dark-Jaxx
Kabuto who actually has a pretty shitty showing against Naruto...

ultimatethor
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Yeah, and Hidan, despite being an S class, was an arrogant moron, so Shikamaru was the perfect person to take him down.

And Gaara was technically a Genin, yet Chunin and up Assassins were not shit to him.

Hell, Pein/Nagato, before even being trained in any Ninjutsu, killed a Chunin.

In a one on one forum fight though. Hidan would squash shikamaru.

Also gaara and pain/nagato were both special cases as they both had times when they both were not in control of the situations( for gaara it was shukaku and for pain it was his berserker mode)

ultimatethor
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Kabuto who actually has a pretty shitty showing against Naruto...

in a forum fight, after kabuto dodged narutos first rasengan and affected his nerves, he would have simply done the same thing to naruto until he died.

NonSensi-Klown
.. what? You're not referring to filler are you?

Dark-Jaxx
What are you talking about?

The first time Naruto ever did Rasengan, it worked, and he did it on Kabuto.

ultimatethor
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
What are you talking about?

The first time Naruto ever did Rasengan, it worked, and he did it on Kabuto.

No the first time he tried rasengan kabuto dodged it and said that naruto cant him with that kind of sweeping motion. He later used it on him in that fight but in a forum fight after that first miss kabuto wud have killed him.

Dark-Jaxx
That first Rasengan was not a real Rasengan.

And besides, the one he hit him with was not a perfect Rasengan either.

ultimatethor
Whether it was real or not is not the point. The point is that kabuto could have easily killed him after the miss if it had been a forum fight.

Dark-Jaxx
Sure...But that was when Naruto didn't even really have the ability to use the move in battle.

I am talking about after he could.

ultimatethor
Im not the one who brought up that showing to downplay kabuto and as an example of why naruto ud beat him.. Anyway even after naruto gained the ability to use that move in battle, he lacked the speed and skill to land it on kabuto. Really naruto vs kabuto wud just be a walkover.Not close at all.

Dark-Jaxx
I guess that is why when he used it, it hit him? no expression

ultimatethor
When he used it on him after his hand was stabbed and kabuto for some reason could not move?confused How did that instance show that he had the speed and skill to hit kabuto with rasengan?

Kento
How'd this get to Kabuto vs Naruto?

Anyway Neji/Hinata could probably win. Assuming Shikamaru doesn't just capture them both and then come up with some super plan since he won't have to waste chakra like crazy to fool them into his shadow binding jutsu since everybody here is a close up fighter.

Though Hinata could probably beat Chouji assuming Chouji doesn't use the pills that almost killed him and she isn't caught in a shadow binding jutsu.

Dark-Jaxx
Originally posted by ultimatethor
When he used it on him after his hand was stabbed and kabuto for some reason could not move?confused How did that instance show that he had the speed and skill to hit kabuto with rasengan? Because he did hit him. no expression

ultimatethor
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Because he did hit him. no expression

For sure. Hitting a stationary target(PIS induced) shows high level speed and skill.

NonSensi-Klown
0XTCbI0wT88

This debate is over.

Wil7
8 trigrams 128 palms: THE END

NonSensi-Klown
Not a canon move because it didn't happen in the manga.

Sorry. smile

Dark-Jaxx
Pwned.

Wil7
Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Not a canon move because it didn't happen in the manga.

Sorry. smile

Did you watch where he used it when fighting Kidomaru? And if not 8 trigrams 64 palms to each: THE END.

Wil7
By the way NonSensi-Klown, they call it Anime/Manga thread for a reason. 8 trigarms 128 palms he used in anime.

NonSensi-Klown
Originally posted by Wil7
Did you watch where he used it when fighting Kidomaru? And if not 8 trigrams 64 palms to each: THE END.

In the anime, not the manga. Any attacks used in the anime but not the manga are non-canon. QED. smile

Dark-Jaxx
He's right, filler is not canon to the actual storyline or plot.

Wil7
Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
In the anime, not the manga. Any attacks used in the anime but not the manga are non-canon. QED. smile

Then this would be called the Manga forum, not the Anime/Manga forum.

Kento
Originally posted by Wil7
Then this would be called the Manga forum, not the Anime/Manga forum. Not really. Things that happen in the anime aren't canon. But there are some anime that are anime only with no manga.

Wil7
Then there is no need to call it Anime/Manga Forum. Just call it Manga Forum.

NonSensi-Klown
No it wouldn't, ebcause Anime can still be discussed. There are some shows that are only anime and don't have a manga.

An anime is only non-canon if a manga verison of it was created first.

Bada's Palin
Originally posted by Wil7
Then this would be called the Manga forum, not the Anime/Manga forum.

dur

Dark-Jaxx
Originally posted by Wil7
Then there is no need to call it Anime/Manga Forum. Just call it Manga Forum. Not all animes have a manga, and there are even some animes that are so different than the manga(see Full Metal Alchemist) that they are almost different fictions.

Wil7
WHATEVER!!!

SHlKAMARU
a four man team has been made for a seek and capture mission, Shikamaru, Chouji, Neji and Hinata. apparently they have to capture one of the 7 swords men from the mist village... in the search of this missing nin shikamaru learns about his location and finds out that he leads a small army of no less than 30 ninjas all over chunnin level, while talking to the his team neji refuses to go back to konoha, beacuse with one more mission he can be recommended for the jounin exam, assuming this is during the 2 year gap... caring about completing the mission and the other one caring about his comrades life, shikamaru and chouji team up to immobilize neji, hinata not having many missions completed that she can be proud of decides to help neji with the mission, neji sees shikamaru's shadow getting closer to him so he dodges, he warns hinata about a shadow going her way she dodges too, knowing that he is going to have to immobilize shikamaru and chouji to complete the mission he gets in fighting position... the hyuga's both use byakugan and get on a defending stance shikamaru still following them with the shadow they keep dodging, neji notices that shikamaru is actually trying to bring them closer, so he warns hinata and lets her know of shikamaru's plan and they dodge in different directions, with the hyugas on both sides of shikamaru and chouji, chouji uses partial expansion jutsu to try to hit them, easy dodge for both of the hyuga's, neji knowing he will need to take out chouji first so he can handle shikamaru with out falling on any trap... he throws some shurikens at them to try and separate them, shikamaru dodges with a front flip while chouji jumps in the air, chouji does a body expansion jutsu while in the air the hyuga,s see this as an opening to attack chouji, they both take out there kunais to hit the easy big target and just when they are about to let go they cant move, the hyugas have been trap by shikamarus shadow bind, shikamaru says his signature sentence "kage mane no jutsu success" and starts explaining to the hyugas what happen, he tells them that he didn't care if the hyugas were close together or, that all he needed was one little moment where chouji could use his expansion jutsu in the air to create a massive shadow where it didn't look suspicious, and just when shikamaru's is gonna immobilize them a back up team comes to warn them about the army and bring them back to konoha... the end ;D

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