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http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/10/connecticut.gay.marriage/

Good news in my opinion.

Originally posted by KidRock
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/10/connecticut.gay.marriage/

Good news in my opinion.

Care to explain why you think it's good news to you?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Care to explain why you think it's good news to you? Cause gay people are better than black people.

Some back when Texas does it and then it will be news

Originally posted by chithappens
Some back when Texas does it and then it will be news

I got a similar response when I posted the 'Gay-Marriage in California' thread. Every state that does it, is good news, it shows progress. It's going to take many small steps until the more Red states like Texas do it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Cause gay people are better than black people.

I'm not like that anymore.

I've given up that fight. It was futile for me to get involed with in it in the first place. As futile as the any battle regarding that would be.

So i'd like to move on..

Originally posted by Robtard
I got a similar response when I posted the 'Gay-Marriage in California' thread. Every state that does it is good news, it shows progress. It's going to state many small steps until the more Red states like Texas do it.

Shrug, I guess, but saying Connecticut did it is like saying Spike Lee got a plaque from the NAACP.

Originally posted by chithappens
Shrug, I guess, but saying Connecticut did it is like saying Spike Lee got a plaque from the NAACP.

Not really, California did it and we're about to vote if it gets to stay, so even a Blue-Liberal state like California may move backwards in regards to gay-mariage/equal-rights.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I'm not like that anymore.

I've given up that fight. It was futile for me to get involed with in it in the first place. As futile as the any battle regarding that would be.

So i'd like to move on..

This new non-angry/non-racist FoTN is better, I applaud you.

What are your thoughts on gay-marriage being legalized?

Originally posted by Robtard
I got a similar response when I posted the 'Gay-Marriage in California' thread. Every state that does it, is good news, it shows progress. It's going to take many small steps until the more Red states like Texas do it.

Funny, I remember you getting the response "Well DUH! It's faggoty liberal California. How can that be news?"

Originally posted by Robtard
It's going to take many small steps until the more Red states like Texas do it.

TX legalizing gay marriage?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
TX legalizing gay marriage?

It might take fifty years, but eventually equality will catch on in those really Red states. That is unless America goes through some massive religious-revival and we become the Christian-Theocracy some think we should be, I say "Christian" in name only of course.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Care to explain why you think it's good news to you?

No more listening to them bitching and moaning and blocking the streets with their faggoty picket signs.

Originally posted by KidRock
No more listening to them bitching and moaning and blocking the streets with their faggoty picket signs.

You should really just come out, your parents and friends be damned. Go for it, just suck a dick, the world will make sense to you then.

Originally posted by Robtard
It might take fifty years, but eventually equality will catch on in those really Red states.

Why are you so sure its inevitable?

TX? LA? AL? MS? AZ? Don't hold your breath, man.

Originally posted by Robtard
You should really just come out, your parents and friends be damned. Go for it, just suck a dick, the world will make sense to you then.

Damn!

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Why are you so sure its inevitable?

TX? LA? AL? MS? AZ? Don't hold your breath, man.

Because progress happens, sometimes at a crawl, but it happens. I'm not holding my breath, I said it might take 50 years; it could probably take longer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EHhwxRls2Y

Good news!

Nice to hear.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
TX legalizing gay marriage? It'll happen eventually.

Originally posted by Robtard
Go for it, just suck a dick, the world will make sense to you then.

That is the same line I used on BackFire..worked like a charm.

But you're too retarded for my taste, but thanks for the interest.

I didn't need a line for you, you were down there on my flute before I even asked.

Originally posted by BackFire
I didn't need a line for you, you were down there on my flute before I even asked. Lol, so classy.

Originally posted by KidRock
That is the same line I used on BackFire..worked like a charm.

But you're too retarded for my taste, but thanks for the interest.



Funny, that, because I've forgotten more than you'll ever know.

Why would you want to get married in the first place?

It's like when they wanted to join the millitary.

Why would you want to?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Why would you want to get married in the first place?


Love
Want to start a family
Economic reasons

There's more, I'd gather.

Originally posted by Robtard
Funny, that, because I've forgotten more than you'll ever know.

You have forgotten more then I will ever know? What does that mean?

You have forgotten all the girls that rejected you?

Originally posted by KidRock
You have forgotten more then I will ever know? What does that mean?

You have forgotten all the girls that rejected you?

Thanks for supporting my point.

Originally posted by Robtard
Thanks for supporting my point.

It's ok..you'll find the one that will love you back instead of fighting back in due time tard'.

Originally posted by BackFire
I didn't need a line for you, you were down there on my flute before I even asked. Are you like this in real life????

Originally posted by Robtard
Love
Want to start a family
Economic reasons

There's more, I'd gather. You don't need marriage for that, well, economics reasons yeah, but that's a stupid reason, and shouldn't be a part of marriage.

Speaking of which, since a wedding is the woman's day and when she becomes a "Mrs." how does it work for gays?

Originally posted by lord xyz
You don't need marriage for that, well, economics reasons yeah, but that's a stupid reason, and shouldn't be a part of marriage.

Speaking of which, since a wedding is the woman's day and when she becomes a "Mrs." how does it work for gays?

Who said "need", you asked why someone would "want" to get married, I gave you three possible reasons.

I'd guess it would be Mr. & Mr. or Mrs. & Mrs.

Originally posted by Robtard
Who said "need", you asked why someone would "want" to get married, I gave you three possible reasons.

I'd guess it would be Mr. & Mr. or Mrs. & Mrs.

First Dude.

Originally posted by Devil King
First Dude.

Oh, you betcha *wink* *smiles at camera*

Originally posted by lord xyz
Why would you want to get married in the first place?

It's like when they wanted to join the millitary.

Why would you want to?

Tax breaks.
Social validation.
Fairness.

Originally posted by RedAlertv2
It'll happen eventually.

I try not to be a hard-nosed doubter, but in this case I seriously doubt it.

Originally posted by BackFire
I didn't need a line for you, you were down there on my flute before I even asked.

KidRock likes tube-steak?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota

KidRock likes tube-steak?

Yeah, he just fights it, it's the source of all his discord.

Good now the homosexuals can be miserable just like the rest of us. I say we let them into the military also. OOOOOOORAAAAAA!

I wonder if their divorce rate will be anything like hetero marriages?

Originally posted by KidRock
No more listening to them bitching and moaning and blocking the streets with their faggoty picket signs. That was pretty funny, coming from kidRock.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Cause gay people are better than black people.

And black people are better than fat people. *coughyoucough*

What about fat black people?

Originally posted by Robtard
What about fat black people?

As long as there's no butt secks between them.

Originally posted by Robtard
What about fat black people?

Aren't there more fat white people and gays than fat black people?

Originally posted by KidRock
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/10/connecticut.gay.marriage/

Good news in my opinion.

No we gotta wait and see how many of those end up in divorce.

Unless someone really thinks that marriage=happiness.

Go figure.

I think they believe equality = happiness.

For me...

freedom and rights = happiness.

Then again I never been marry...what do I know?

Marry me.

We can now.

I'll dress up like Robin for you. Or The Penguin.

Originally posted by Markus Corvinus
And black people are better than fat people. *coughyoucough* I don't get it. Are you calling me a Jew?

Originally posted by BackFire
Marry me.

We can now.

I'll dress up like Robin for you. Or The Penguin.

Be Clayface...he is sticky...changes shape (you'll love that)...and gets hard everytime he gets hot.

Heck!...we can even mimic that scene from Ghost!

Do we have a deal?

Deal.

Excellent, more marriage. That'll sort everything.

Originally posted by BackFire
Deal.

Excellent!

I'll get the cans ready for the Batmobile.

Pick you at 10:00pm.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Excellent, more marriage. That'll sort everything.

Should really be "more equality".

They've got as much right to be as unhappy as straight people.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
No we gotta wait and see how many of those end up in divorce.

Unless someone really thinks that marriage=happiness.

Go figure.

More about equal rights. Don't worry, you'll never understand that sort of thing.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
They've got as much right to be as unhappy as straight people.

They do now, or at least more.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
They've got as much right to be as unhappy as straight people. I disagree, I think they got 5 less right.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I disagree, I think they got 5 less right.

You just want gay marriage because it will lead to pedophile marriage, and you want to marry that little boy you reamed last night.

**** this queerfest.

Originally posted by BackFire
You just want gay marriage because it will lead to pedophile marriage, and you want to marry that little boy you reamed last night.

That has to be a lie, Bardock is a self professed power-bottom.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
**** this queerfest.

Amen, if men were meant to be with other men, we'd be able to reproduce. All homosexuality is pretty much wrong, no matter how you look at it. I, like most men, have watched lesbian porn, but even being lesbian is pretty wrong, as entertaining as it was for me to watch. Men are only meant to be with women.

WORD

Originally posted by Markus Corvinus
Amen, if men were meant to be with other men, we'd be able to reproduce. All homosexuality is pretty much wrong, no matter how you look at it. I, like most men, have watched lesbian porn, but even being lesbian is pretty wrong, as entertaining as it was for me to watch. Men are only meant to be with women.

WORD

Ha, dumbass.

Originally posted by Markus Corvinus
Amen, if men were meant to be with other men, we'd be able to reproduce. All homosexuality is pretty much wrong, no matter how you look at it. I, like most men, have watched lesbian porn, but even being lesbian is pretty wrong, as entertaining as it was for me to watch. Men are only meant to be with women.

WORD

Then please be the first to only and I mean ONLY have sex with a woman when she's ovulating and you have every intention of impregnating her. In fact, have your sperm-count tested; if you happen to be sterile or have a critically low sperm count, do the right (as opposed to wrong) thing and live a life of celibacy.

AIGHT.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Tax breaks.
Social validation.
Fairness. Change laws.
Change attitudes.
Haha, fairness.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Change laws.
Change attitudes.
Haha, fairness.

You can change attitudes just like that?


Wait, is the answer "the Venus cult's gonna do it"?

Originally posted by dadudemon
I mostly agree with you. However, God made gays. That means homosexuality is natural.

I can tolerate the civil unions thing. But why call it something else when it's the same thing? Sentimental reasons? Just call it marriage, I say.

God create humans. Humans create homosexuality. And anything man-made is unnatural. Synthetic.

And marriages and civil unions are the same thing like basketball and football are the same thing. Both require points to win, both are competitive and even have teams with their own proper uniforms. But you can't have 'em on the same ground. Football's football and basketballs' basketball. That's just the way it's is and has been traditionally. When a man and a woman take the plunge together specifically, religiously, traditionally, etc., we've called it a marriage because the joining is between a man and a woman in holy matrimony.

That's how marriages and civil unions are and should be different. Not that civil unions are low, it's just the marriage ritual always said that choosing to marry means it going to occur with a man and woman. And nothing else. Any and everything and anyone else can and should feel free to create their own version of a sacred ritual with their own ways and rules that involves coming together to create any sort of formal bond, just like marriage did thousands of years ago.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
God create humans. Humans create homosexuality. And anything man-made is unnatural. Synthetic

Well then we're synthetic, God-made.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well then we're synthetic, God-made.

-AC

No we're not..

That humans can procreate and give birth to other humans is a process that was created by God. So we're completely natural.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You can change attitudes just like that?


Wait, is the answer "the Venus cult's gonna do it"? Why would that be the answer?

The point is, social acceptance is a stupid reason and if people's attitudes were diffrent, it's eradicated.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
No we're not..

That humans can procreate and give birth to other humans is a process that was created by God. So we're completely natural.

So in your opinion, God didn't create everything and engineer everything to exist?

-AC

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
No we're not..

That humans can procreate and give birth to other humans is a process that was created by God. So we're completely natural.

So can gays and pedophiles.

What people do tend to forget is that calling homosexuality unnatural isn't actually derogatory if you mean it by definition, or a definition.

If one subscribes to the idea that the purpose and/or function of humans is to reproduce, then obviously being attracted to the same sex isn't meant to happen and would probably then be considered unnatural.

I personally don't really care, because it has shit all to do with marriage, which should be a legal institution anyway, but if it has to exist then let anyone do it.

-AC

Originally posted by lord xyz
Why would that be the answer?

The point is, social acceptance is a stupid reason and if people's attitudes were diffrent, it's eradicated.

Where were you when Jim Crow was discussed in class?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Why would that be the answer?

The point is, social acceptance is a stupid reason and if people's attitudes were diffrent, it's eradicated. How so?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Change laws.
Change attitudes.
Haha, fairness.

whats wrong with people getting married just because they want to?

Originally posted by inimalist
whats wrong with people getting married just because they want to?

Red Scare = Gay Scare?

Originally posted by chithappens
Red Scare = Gay Scare?

I think lord xyz was trying to get people to justify getting married in the first place.

but ya, anti-gay is a total red herring issue.

Originally posted by inimalist
whats wrong with people getting married just because they want to? Nothing, but why would they want to?

Originally posted by Bardock42
How so? What, how is that my point, or how is social acceptance a stupid reason, or how is the reason eradicated?

Originally posted by chithappens
Where were you when Jim Crow was discussed in class? It's stupid for wanting to get married.

How is social acceptance a stupid reason?

Originally posted by Devil King
Ha, dumbass.

Even if said insult were true, I'd still be more intelligent than you, seeing as I did not have to result in name calling. I'm not saying I have anything against homosexuals or the like, that's their choice, but I simply mean that men are meant to truly be with women, and Alpha Centauri pretty much explained what I was trying to. So, please, try to do more than insult people, mmkay?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Nothing, but why would they want to?

because that is what they want?

why do people need to justify their desires?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Nothing, but why would they want to?

It's stupid for wanting to get married.

I think marriage is stupid and illogical, but it doesn't hurt me if people wanna do it, why not let them?

-AC

Originally posted by Markus Corvinus
Even if said insult were true, I'd still be more intelligent than you, seeing as I did not have to result in name calling. I'm not saying I have anything against homosexuals or the like, that's their choice, but I simply mean that men are meant to truly be with women, and Alpha Centauri pretty much explained what I was trying to. So, please, try to do more than insult people, mmkay?

dumbass

Originally posted by Robtard
Then please be the first to only and I mean ONLY have sex with a woman when she's ovulating and you have every intention of impregnating her. In fact, have your sperm-count tested; if you happen to be sterile or have a critically low sperm count, do the right (as opposed to wrong) thing and live a life of celibacy.

AIGHT.

I am not sterile and I am trying to be celibant until the right girl comes along. I see no need in rushing to have sex just because everyone else does.

Originally posted by inimalist
dumbass

Reported.

I, like I assume AC, would prefer if there was no government involvement in marriage at all. I don't see the point, it's just silly and also favouring one group of society. But if people want to express their "love" in such a way as to call themselves married and have a big party, etc...I can understand that. Parties are cool...and everyone likes to feel special.

Originally posted by Bardock42
How is social acceptance a stupid reason? Why should you care what other people think, especially when people's opinions change all the time?

Originally posted by inimalist
because that is what they want?

why do people need to justify their desires? Woah, I'm not attacking people who wanna get married and demand they tell me why, I just don't understand the relevance or purpose for it.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I think marriage is stupid and illogical, but it doesn't hurt me if people wanna do it, why not let them?

-AC It's not as if I'll preech in the streets and request legislation outlawing marriage, I just don't want it happening, as it's not a good thing.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Why should you care what other people think, especially when people's opinions change all the time?

C-cause they might stone you?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
God create humans.

God DID create humans. God also created some that have genetic predispositions to homosexuality. So it's humanity's fault, not God's, for homosexuals that have a genetic origin? It's un uphill battle. God is much smarter than you give Him credit for. If you think homosexuality is evil, isn't the existence of evil a good thing? Don't we need "evils" to become better? If everything was perfect and hunky dory, how is this life a "test" to become better?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Humans create homosexuality. And anything man-made is unnatural. Synthetic.

Anything a human creates is just as unnatural as bee hives, nests, special insect salivas, etc. Why is there a major psychological difference between what man creates and other species create? All of us are creations of God, so there really isn't anything unnatural. You can argue synthetics, but it's not unnatural.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
And marriages and civil unions are the same thing like basketball and football are the same thing. Both require points to win, both are competitive and even have teams with their own proper uniforms. But you can't have 'em on the same ground. Football's football and basketballs' basketball. That's just the way it's is and has been traditionally. When a man and a woman take the plunge together specifically, religiously, traditionally, etc., we've called it a marriage because the joining is between a man and a woman in holy matrimony.

You analogy fails, slightly. It would be more like...

Marriage, regardless of the type, is the same thing as a sports game. But you have different types of games like basketball, football, hockey, etc. Homosexual marriage is just a type of marriage.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
That's how marriages and civil unions are and should be different. Not that civil unions are low, it's just the marriage ritual always said that choosing to marry means it going to occur with a man and woman. And nothing else. Any and everything and anyone else can and should feel free to create their own version of a sacred ritual with their own ways and rules that involves coming together to create any sort of formal bond, just like marriage did thousands of years ago.


Ahhhh. I see.

You think marriage is solely a theistic act? Not so. Though marriage is largely a theistic institution, it's also a secular one. Leave your religious beliefs at the door. Inside your religion, you are free to dictate to your members your own beliefs of right and wrong up to an including excommunication. Outside of that, you have no right to oppress the freedoms of those around you. No matter how much butt lovins goes on between two married men, or how much carpet munchin' goes on between two married women, it in no way affects you. If they were part of your religion, and you had a position of authority, you could take whatever actions your faith had that does not violate criminal or civil law. If they get caught in a park doing the deed, they should get into just as much trouble as a heterosexual couple. I don't want my children seeing stuff like that, regardless of the participants.

Again, you have no right to enforce your religious beliefs on other people. That is in stark contrast to the foundational ideas of the architects of this nation.

Originally posted by Markus Corvinus
I am not sterile and I am trying to be celibant until the right girl comes along. I see no need in rushing to have sex just because everyone else does.

I've always liked that excuse.

Originally posted by dadudemon
God DID create humans. God also created some that have genetic predispositions to homosexuality. So it's humanity's fault, not God's, for homosexuals that have a genetic origin? It's un uphill battle. God is much smarter than you give Him credit for. If you think homosexuality is evil, isn't the existence of evil a good thing? Don't we need "evils" to become better? If everything was perfect and hunky dory, how is this life a "test" to become better?



Anything a human creates is just as unnatural as bee hives, nests, special insect salivas, etc. Why is there a major psychological difference between what man creates and other species create? All of us are creations of God, so there really isn't anything unnatural. You can argue synthetics, but it's not unnatural.



You analogy fails, slightly. It would be more like...

Marriage, regardless of the type, is the same thing as a sports game. But you have different types of games like basketball, football, hockey, etc. Homosexual marriage is just a type of marriage.




Ahhhh. I see.

You think marriage is solely a theistic act? Not so. Though marriage is largely a theistic institution, it's also a secular one. Leave your religious beliefs at the door. Inside your religion, you are free to dictate to your members your own beliefs of right and wrong up to an including excommunication. Outside of that, you have no right to oppress the freedoms of those around you. No matter how much butt lovins goes on between two married men, or how much carpet munchin' goes on between two married women, it in no way affects you. If they were part of your religion, and you had a position of authority, you could take whatever actions your faith had that does not violate criminal or civil law. If they get caught in a park doing the deed, they should get into just as much trouble as a heterosexual couple. I don't want my children seeing stuff like that, regardless of the participants.

Again, you have no right to enforce your religious beliefs on other people. That is in stark contrast to the foundational ideas of the architects of this nation.

Technically you can't prove Homosexuality is genetic..., but then again Can't prove there is a God either. I guess it is just blind faith on both counts.

Also most marriages are religion based in America. About 75% of marriages take place in a church. Although the Divorce doesn't lol.


And to answer Lord XYZ....it's all about the code of honor. If Fred knocks up Susie....He is honor bound! That and the shotgun...

To think that marriages are religious based because they take place place in a church, is downright blind and naive.

Originally posted by Bardock42
C-cause they might stone you? F-for not getting married?

W-where?

Originally posted by Pezmerga
Technically you can't prove Homosexuality is genetic..., but then again Can't prove there is a God either. I guess it is just blind faith on both counts.

Also most marriages are religion based in America. About 75% of marriages take place in a church. Although the Divorce doesn't lol.


And to answer Lord XYZ....it's all about the code of honor. If Fred knocks up Susie....He is honor bound! That and the shotgun... You have a very weird society.

Originally posted by lord xyz
F-for not getting married?

W-where?



No, we were talking about why social acceptance is important. Stick to the topic.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, we were talking about why social acceptance is important. Stick to the topic. The topic is about marriage.

Originally posted by lord xyz
The topic is about marriage. So? We were talking about social acceptance. You said why would you want to be socially accepted?

Originally posted by Bardock42
So? We were talking about social acceptance. You said why would you want to be socially accepted? In terms of marriage.

Are you that retarded to not see that?

Originally posted by lord xyz
In terms of marriage.

Are you that retarded to not see that? I could ask you the same thing. As you replied to someone else, and it's apparent that he was talking about social acceptance in general and how gay marriage helps with that, so, maybe, before trying to "pwn" me, read what has been going on and, for once, don't look like a giant fool.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I could ask you the same thing. As you replied to someone else, and it's apparent that he was talking about social acceptance in general and how gay marriage helps with that, so, maybe, before trying to "pwn" me, read what has been going on and, for once, don't look like a giant fool. It was Symetric Chaos, who said "Social Validation" as a reason for getting married.

You decided to enter the conversation and I responded with "The point is, social acceptance is a stupid reason".

It isn't hard to comprehend.

Originally posted by lord xyz
It was Symetric Chaos, who said "Social Validation" as a reason for getting married.

You decided to enter the conversation and I responded with "The point is, social acceptance is a stupid reason".

It isn't hard to comprehend. That's exactly what I just told you, you ****.

No it's not.

Once again:

"Social Validation" as a reason for getting married.

Not:

he was talking about social acceptance in general

You're unbelieveable.

Originally posted by Markus Corvinus
I am not sterile and I am trying to be celibant until the right girl comes along. I see no need in rushing to have sex just because everyone else does.

First of all, that's most likely a lie, if you could get a girl to take her panties off for you right now, you wouldn't hesitate to jump in and pump away for all 20 seconds of your worth.

Secondly, you brought up the "gays can't reproduce, ergo, gay-sex is wrong" rhetotic, if that's the case, then you should only (and I mean ONLY) have sex for the purposes of procreation and never for recreation, which I'm sure you won't do.

In short, your stance fails.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Why would you want to get married in the first place?

It's like when they wanted to join the millitary.

Why would you want to? Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Tax breaks.
Social validation.
Fairness. Originally posted by lord xyz
Change laws.
Change attitudes.
Haha, fairness. Originally posted by Bardock42
You can change attitudes just like that?


Wait, is the answer "the Venus cult's gonna do it"? Originally posted by lord xyz
Why would that be the answer?

The point is, social acceptance is a stupid reason and if people's attitudes were diffrent, it's eradicated. Originally posted by Bardock42
How so? Originally posted by lord xyz

What, how is that my point, or how is social acceptance a stupid reason, or how is the reason eradicated?

It's stupid for wanting to get married.
Originally posted by Bardock42
How is social acceptance a stupid reason? Originally posted by lord xyz
Why should you care what other people think, especially when people's opinions change all the time?
Originally posted by Bardock42
C-cause they might stone you?
Originally posted by lord xyz
F-for not getting married?

W-where? Originally posted by Bardock42
No, we were talking about why social acceptance is important. Stick to the topic. Originally posted by lord xyz
The topic is about marriage.
Originally posted by Bardock42
So? We were talking about social acceptance. You said why would you want to be socially accepted?
Originally posted by lord xyz
In terms of marriage.

Are you that retarded to not see that?
Originally posted by Bardock42
I could ask you the same thing. As you replied to someone else, and it's apparent that he was talking about social acceptance in general and how gay marriage helps with that, so, maybe, before trying to "pwn" me, read what has been going on and, for once, don't look like a giant fool. Originally posted by lord xyz
It was Symetric Chaos, who said "Social Validation" as a reason for getting married.

You decided to enter the conversation and I responded with "The point is, social acceptance is a stupid reason".

It isn't hard to comprehend. Originally posted by Bardock42
That's exactly what I just told you, you ****. Originally posted by lord xyz
No it's not.

Once again:

"Social Validation" as a reason for getting married.

Not:

he was talking about social acceptance in general

You're unbelieveable.


So, as we all can see, you being an idiot again. You have not provided any reason that social validation is a bad reason to marry.

So. Will you explain why social validation is not an acceptable reason, or continue to talk nonsense?

That was a long about way to just call XYZ a tool.

Originally posted by Bardock42
So, as we all can see, you being an idiot again. You have not provided any reason that social validation is a bad reason to marry.

So. Will you explain why social validation is not an acceptable reason, or continue to talk nonsense? You just proved me right that we weren't talking about social acceptance in general.

now you're talking about something different.

Be consistent, and don't dodge.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You just proved me right that we weren't talking about social acceptance in general.

now you're talking about something different.

Be consistent, and don't dodge.

Sure, sure, tool.


Why then, in your opinion, is social validation not a good reason to get married?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Sure, sure, tool.


Why then, in your opinion, is social validation not a good reason to get married? Don't call me a tool because you're being retarded.

As you shouldn't submiss yourself to other people's opinions, when it's much better to change their opinions.

Why do I have to explain this to you? Aren't you smart enough to know the problems with doing something just because the society wants you to?

Originally posted by Pezmerga
Technically you can't prove Homosexuality is genetic..., but then again Can't prove there is a God either. I guess it is just blind faith on both counts.

There is strong evidence that it is genetic in origin, for some. They can make flies gay by just altering their genetics. Then there's the pheromone thing they tested. Though it wasn't definitive, it still showed a correlation of an uncontrollable measure of homosexuality. I still hold that the brain is so dynamic, the response to the pheromones can be altered as far as specific areas of brain activation goes. It seems weird, and a stretch, that I would think something like because it is more likely that it is the other way, however, I'm a strong proponent of the mind over the body and I give more heed to the adaptability of the brain. I'm more likely to believe the mind has a greater control over things in the body than say, a stout believer in biological chemistry. I think the brain holds wonderful treasures yet to be discovered. Anyway, tangential, my bad.

So back on track....it wouldn't be blind faith on the genetic origins of homosexuality. It would actually be an exercise of better judgement based on current scientific understanding.

I also forgot to mention that there is actually a place in the reproductive circle for homosexua malesl. Apparently, the female sibling/s of homosexual men have more children and the females can rear them more successfully through the aid (not AIDS...yes, I went there) of the males.


Now don't mistake what I'm telling you for my believing that all homosexuals are homosexuals because their genetics dictate that they are gay. My personal belief is there are some who are gay solely because of their genetics. The rest is a mixture of environment, genetics, and choice. Again, this is my opinion. Some don't hold that my opinion is correct. I'm sure as time goes by, I'll be proven correct of my opinion.

Originally posted by Pezmerga
Also most marriages are religion based in America. About 75% of marriages take place in a church. Although the Divorce doesn't lol.

OH! So the majority has the right to oppress the minority? Now why does this sound familiar?....

...hmm....

Also, did you pull that stat out of your a** or is that a legit figure? I don't feel like looking it up. All the other information I talked about above has been cited on these boards on more than one occasion so I don't need to look them up. If you don't feel like searching the boards for those, then you can look it up on google. As you can tell, I'm too lazy to look anything up.




Originally posted by Pezmerga
And to answer Lord XYZ....it's all about the code of honor. If Fred knocks up Susie....He is honor bound! That and the shotgun...


True that socials mores have a large influence on people's actions. Is that obvious? (That's not rhetorical.)





Edit-

And about the conversation between Bards and XYZ.

Dude...

I should be overly obvious that people get married because of social mores(which is proper term.) People get married because of that falls in line with the dictates of the society in which they live. Pretty simple, and pretty obvious.

Also, these "dictates" or mores, do not and sometimes don't make sense. Remember when our ancestors could only take baths once a year? *shudders*

I feel the need to concede the argument just so people stop spouting stupidity.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I feel the need to concede the argument just so people stop spouting stupidity.

I don't think it's necessary that you concede because I have no idea what your stance vs bardock's stance is. (Weird how that came out...but, I'm saying that you shouldn't give up if you thought that I was attempting to contradict you.) I didn't bother reading what Bardock's point was, for the most part. But I was basically agreeing with you. To sum up...

"People get married because of social mores. DUH!"

That was it.

If that's what you were trying to say, then you're absolutely correct.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't think it's necessary that you concede because I have no idea what your stance vs bardock's stance is. (Weird how that came out...but, I'm saying that you shouldn't give up if you thought that I was attempting to contradict you.) I didn't bother reading what Bardock's point was, for the most part. But I was basically agreeing with you. To sum up...

"People get married because of social mores. DUH!"

That was it.

If that's what you were trying to say, then you're absolutely correct.

You are a moron.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You are a moron.

Thanks.


Now try to pay attention, foo.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Thanks.


Now try to pay attention, foo.

...

Deeply ironic. You have no idea what we have been talking about, obviously. But here, I give it to you in a nutshell.

Sym said social values are a reason why people get married.

NEITHER xyz nor I addressed the factuality of that statement (like you seem to think).

Our argument was solely about xyz thinking that social validation is a stupid reason to get married and me asking why.

Moron.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You are a moron.

Do you believe homosexuals are people, too? Do you believe that marriage is an institution made up of those who participate in it? Do you believe that the legal and moral commitment those two people make to each other are just as real as those made between a man who feels as he des and a woman that feels as she does?

Originally posted by Devil King
Do you believe homosexuals are people, too? Do you believe that marriage is an institution made up of those who participate in it? Do you believe that the legal and moral commitment those two people make to each other are just as real as those made between a man who feels as he des and a woman that feels as she does? No, I think gays are gross and inferior. Why you asking?

Originally posted by Bardock42
...

Deeply ironic. You have no idea what we have been talking about, obviously. But here, I give it to you in a nutshell.

Sym said social values are a reason why people get married.

NEITHER xyz nor I addressed the factuality of that statement (like you seem to think).

Our argument was solely about xyz thinking that social validation is a stupid reason to get married and me asking why.

Moron.


Great. But that didn't look like the argument he was trying to make on this last page to me.

I could care less about reading the large quantity of rubbish your two passed.




And stop with the name calling, poopy butt stains boy.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Great. But that didn't look like the argument he was trying to make on this last page to me.

I could care less about reading the large quantity of rubbish your two passed.




And stop with the name calling, poopy butt stains boy.

Why? If someone's an idiot (like you), I shall point it out. And I told you now that you were incorrect. Just get over it. You made a stupid assumption, you were wrong, I am sure it happens all the time. Glad I could clear it up for you.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why? If someone's an idiot (like you), I shall point it out. And I told you now that you were incorrect. Just get over it. You made a stupid assumption, you were wrong, I am sure it happens all the time. Glad I could clear it up for you.

You didn't clear jack **** up for anyone. If I were interested, I would have read it. Stop being so full of yourself. You really do think I stalk you, don't you?


Also, I didn't make a stupid assumption. It was simply what was on this page, dumb***.

"Social acceptance" and "social validation"


Remember? You just have to scroll up.


Also, don't forget to wipe your butt. Glad I could help.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You didn't clear jack **** up for anyone. If I were interested, I would have read it. Stop being so full of yourself. You really do think I stalk you, don't you?


Also, I didn't make a stupid assumption. It was simply what was on this page, dumb***.

"Social acceptance" and "social validation"


Remember? You just have to scroll up.


Also, don't forget to wipe your butt. Glad I could help.

I don't think you stalk me.

If you read my last post, I obviously cleared something up for you, as you had the wrong impression of our argument (whether you were interested in it or not).

And no, you made stupid assumptions. You assumed that xyz was arguing that people get married for social validation.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, I think gays are gross and inferior. Why you asking?

Because I know you're answering those questions, rhetorically. I only ask those questions becaue they, themselves, are rhetorical. If anyone answers my rhetorical questions with a "yes", then they are hypocrites and willfully ignorant...no matter what god they subscribe. Personally, I'd like to thank you for not being the bastard they pretend so hard to be. Sorry, but if anyone disagrees with gay rights and ***-marriage, then they're ****ing stupid and unrealistic. I can almost promise you that you hve gay members of your own family. Many just aren't too affraid to own that reality

We're not going anywhere. If it were were up to me, those who do agree with it would be beaten and absused and murdered...just like others think they have the right to do to us. And yes, that consideration applys to more than jut gay men and women. I'm kind of alright with people who thump the bible and vote for a person because they think one religion is superior to another dillusion, should be forced into reconditioning camps is fine.

If anyone is wondering, this is one stance with which I disagree with Mr. Obama and am totally on board with Mrs Clinton. ******* deserve the same rights as everyone else. If you disagree with this, then you honestly deserve to be whipped.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't think you stalk me.

Sometimes, I wonder.

Originally posted by Bardock42
If you read my last post, I obviously cleared something up for you, as you had the wrong impression of our argument (whether you were interested in it or not).

And no, you made stupid assumptions. You assumed that xyz was arguing that people get married for social validation.

Ah. Now my memory of what I had read is back.

Yes, I addressed that in my first address to XYZ. I then later got it backwards and thought that that was what he was arguing for instead of against.

Still doesn't matter because I cleared it up in my first address and was trying to cheer the poor lad up in my second post, where I got it backwards.


Still, not bad for having quicly glanced over 60+ posts and just posted a general statement. My original point still stands and it is correct. I got it backwards in my reply to XYZ's pity post. Sue me.





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Not that he's wrong, but I think DK just wanted a soap box.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Sometimes, I wonder.


Sometimes you wonder whether you stalk me?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Ah. Now my memory of what I had read is back.

Yes, I addressed that in my first address to XYZ. I then later got it backwards and thought that that was what he was arguing for instead of against.

Still doesn't matter because I cleared it up in my first address and was trying to cheer the poor lad up in my second post, where I got it backwards.


Still, not bad for having quicly glanced over 60+ posts and just posted a general statement. My original point still stands and it is correct. I got it backwards in my reply to XYZ's pity post. Sue me.


Ok.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Sometimes you wonder whether you stalk me?
It's called an ellipsis. There's understood words that are not really there that the reader is supposed to fill in.

It would say, if complete, "Sometimes, I wonder if you really think I stalk you."

Capisce?


And, yes, I know you're being facetious. I subscribe to "Explain sarcastic questions with seriousness to be annoying" type of behavior.

Originally posted by dadudemon
It's called an ellipsis. There's understood words that are not really there that the reader is supposed to fill in.

It would say, if complete, "Sometimes, I wonder if you really think I stalk you."

Capisce?


And, yes, I know you're being facetious. I subscribe to "Explain sarcastic questions with seriousness to be annoying" type of behavior. I-i know. I "misunderstood" for comedic purposes.


And, yes, I read your last sentence, I subscribe to a "Disregard what doesn't fit into your reply of choice" kind of behaviour.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I-i know. I "misunderstood" for comedic purposes.

B-but...


Originally posted by Bardock42
And, yes, I read your last sentence, I subscribe to a "Disregard what doesn't fit into your reply of choice" kind of behaviour.

AHA!

Originally posted by Bardock42
Cause gay people are better than black people.

That made me lol.