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personally, i believe that shino is the more superior battle strategist in a one on one fight, and he did manage to defeat a sunagakure ninja (kankouro) when shikamaru needed salvation from one to defeat his sound ninja opponent.

he balances skill and power as well as having techniques that sap chackra as well as strong taijutsu. thats not good for shikamaru's case since shikamaru is a ninja with minimal chackra reserves.

imo, shikamaru can't beat him.

Shikamaru beats him in smarts but shino wins in skill.

Shikamaru didn't need help against the Sound Ninja, Asuma kept him from killing them.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Shikamaru didn't need help against the Sound Ninja, Asuma kept him from killing them. the one from the sound four (or five) beat him....tayuya i believe her name was. temari had to bail him out from getting killed.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Shikamaru didn't need help against the Sound Ninja, Asuma kept him from killing them.

He ran out of chakra and if Asuma didn't come in Shikamaru would have gotten his ass beat to a pulp. Even if he had full chakra, at that point in time, Shikamaru would still probably have lost. He is 1 Genin vs 9 Jonin. Now he can take them all, but back then he couldn't.

Originally posted by Wil7
He ran out of chakra and if Asuma didn't come in Shikamaru would have gotten his ass beat to a pulp. Even if he had full chakra, at that point in time, Shikamaru would still probably have lost. He is 1 Genin vs 9 Jonin. Now he can take them all, but back then he couldn't. He ran out of chakra because of his battle with Temari. Which had just gotten over not that long ago. With full chakra he could have killed them even then had his shadow been able to get the hiding guy. Besides he didn't plan on living.

But as much as I like Shikamaru..he's fighting somebody who can drain his chakra that seems to drain to fast as it is. Shika isn't going to be able to shadow bind every single bug plus Shino, and be able to do anything. Plus the chakra he uses up trying to get Shino into his shadow. Shino has the advantage of being smart, powerful, and having his attacks move on their own without his need to move. Shikamaru is pretty effectively beaten imo.

Originally posted by Wil7
He ran out of chakra and if Asuma didn't come in Shikamaru would have gotten his ass beat to a pulp. Even if he had full chakra, at that point in time, Shikamaru would still probably have lost. He is 1 Genin vs 9 Jonin. Now he can take them all, but back then he couldn't.

They were never stated to be Jounin, they were just stronger than Genin, namely Chuunin and possibly Jounin.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/119/02/

Shikamaru was clearly about to kill them and Asuma stopped him. Though it's debatable if it was Asuma who wanted to keep Shikamaru from becoming a killer yet, or if it was the other Sound shinobi.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
They were never stated to be Jounin, they were just stronger than Genin, namely Chuunin and possibly Jounin.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/119/02/

Shikamaru was clearly about to kill them and Asuma stopped him. Though it's debatable if it was Asuma who wanted to keep Shikamaru from becoming a killer yet, or if it was the other Sound shinobi.



I have a video that the dog even says there Jonin level.

Go watch the episode where Shikamaru was going back to BE A DECOY, and slow them down. Shikamaru going to kill them, that is laughable.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/119/03/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/119/04/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/119/05/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/119/06/ so on and so forth.

Shikamaru wasn't about to kill them. He was out of chakra and the shadow possesion was released on them. Shikamaru would have had his ass pumbled and killed if it wasn't for Asuma saving his ass.

Originally posted by Wil7


I have a video that the dog even says there Jonin level.

Go watch the episode where Shikamaru was going back to BE A DECOY, and slow them down. Shikamaru going to kill them, that is laughable.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/119/03/

Shikamaru wasn't about to kill them. He was out of chakra and the shadow possesion was released on them. Shikamaru would have had his ass pumbled and killed if it wasn't for Asuma saving his ass.

What the hell are you on about c0cksucker?

You can't see the shuriken flying towards the sound characters? It doesn't matter if he was out of chakra because they would've been dead if Asuma hadn't stopped the shuriken. It doesn't matter what the dog said in the filler, Shikamaru notes that they're PROBABLY chuunin strength or higher. But all of this is pointless because Asuma was the one who stopped Shikamaru's attack. You don't understand that they would be dead if Asuma hadn't stopped the attack? Can you? Do you see the shuriken and Kunai being stopped?

You're too dense to realize this?

Asuma didn't stop the shuriken, the 9th sound ninja did. Don't you remember Shikamaru saying that one is hiding in case of an ambush. He would throw shuriken to have the guy reveal his position. Shikamaru even says it. Asuma came later and took him out. The sound ninja's told him to come out, but Asuma came and took them all out. Asuma doesn't even state it was him who stopped it. Where does he state it, nowhere you dipshit. Not in Manga or Anime.

Who you just insulted me 2 times, and it didn't affect me, or get me angry. Please, save your strength. Your not worth insulting, and I don't even think you relized I am way more mature than you. You might think you are old, but you still have the mind of a little kid. Some people don't mature, and your probably one of them.

Originally posted by Wil7
Asuma didn't stop the shuriken, the 9th sound ninja did. Don't you remember Shikamaru saying that one is hiding in case of an ambush. He would throw shuriken to have the guy reveal his position. Shikamaru even says it. Asuma came later and took him out. The sound ninja's told him to come out, but Asuma came and took them all out. Asuma doesn't even state it was him who stopped it. Where does he state it, nowhere you dipshit. Not in Manga or Anime.

Who you just insulted me 2 times, and it didn't affect me, or get me angry. Please, save your strength. Your not worth insulting, and I don't even think you relized I am way more mature than you. You might think you are old, but you still have the mind of a little kid. Some people don't mature, and your probably one of them.

It's realized.

Shikamaru wondered why the 9th guy hadn't appeared, that it took him longer than expected. It was IMPLIED that Asuma had already taken him out. Even so that's beyond the point because Shikamaru clearly had those 8 sound shinobi beat.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
It's realized.

Shikamaru wondered why the 9th guy hadn't appeared, that it took him longer than expected. It was IMPLIED that Asuma had already taken him out. Even so that's beyond the point because Shikamaru clearly had those 8 sound shinobi beat. [/QUOTE


no he did not beat them right when the shadow started to wear off shikimaru would have died but asuma came and Shikamaru

Originally posted by yungz22
He did have those 8 beat. The 9th one was the one he needed to know where it was. He could have killed all 8 of them then and there had the 9th one not been hiding.

shit...i just thought of a way shikamaru could win.

the beetles cast a huge shadow when they swarm, plus they come out from shino, creating a continuous shadow between the two.

but....

-shino knows shikamaru is a shadow nin and he knows all about how his jutsu works (chunin exams)

-a possible counter to this could be to create bug clones to fool shikamaru.

Shikamaru uses his uber IQ haxx to pwn Shino in some ridiculous battle plan.

he possibly could, but shino likes to stay two steps ahead of his opponent, + his bugs can steal chackra from shikamaru who already has a very low supply.

shikamaru is way to smart to be defeated by shino....he would have away to defeat shino before the battle starts...Like batman vs superman..batman keeps a piece of kryptonite in his utlity belt to stop superman...shikamaru is like batman

Originally posted by jltruth
shikamaru is way to smart to be defeated by shino....he would have away to defeat shino before the battle starts...Like batman vs superman..batman keeps a piece of kryptonite in his utlity belt to stop superman...shikamaru is like batman

how the hell is shika like batman

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
It's realized.

Shikamaru wondered why the 9th guy hadn't appeared, that it took him longer than expected. It was IMPLIED that Asuma had already taken him out. Even so that's beyond the point because Shikamaru clearly had those 8 sound shinobi beat.

SHIKAMARU RAN OUT OF CHAKRA. HE WOULD OF HAD HIS ASS KILLED IF IT WASN'T FOR ASUMA. FACT.

Originally posted by yungz22
how the hell is shika like batman
Batmans all about strategey and prep and so is Shikamaru