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NJO LUke and ROTS Anakin (of the light side)
No rest in between

1) Exar Kun
2) Darth Revan & Darth Bane
3) Darth Malak & Count Dooku
4) Darth Sidious & Yoda
5) Naga Sadow & Darth Nihilus & Freedon Nadd

OMG, no rest? This is one hell of a fight. Okay.

1) Win
2) Win
3) Win
4) Win to Draw (now they get tired)
5) Draw to Lose (you know why)

Beaten at two.

ya they r beaten at 2. round 3 and 1 are easiest

beaten at 4. If they make it 5, then it all depends on the credulity of Nihilus drain in combat, which we have never seen, so i personally deny its usefulness in such a setting.

i cant put team of revan and bane above luke and ROTS anakin

but you just did, right? when you said they lose at 2? Revan is an unknown, and Luke >Bane, so i would give them that one.

woops bad typing my bad revan and bane team better that rots anakin and luke team. And can we plz not go through another revan unknown conversation

lol, sure, not a problem. (he is..) but we've talked about it enough.

we could just wait for that kotor3 guy to get in here so he can explain the history of revan and explain evry power he has

lol, oh we will. "death field" anyone?

1. Anakin dies, Luke smashes Exar with several trillion newtons of force and kills him.
2. Luke smashes Revan and Bane with several trillion newtons of force and kills them.
3. Rinse and repeat.
4. Rinse and repeat.
5. Luke indirectly destroys Nihilus by tossing a planet into him.

Luke wins.

Originally posted by Autokrat
1. Anakin dies, Luke smashes Exar with several trillion newtons of force and kills him.
2. Luke smashes Revan and Bane with several trillion newtons of force and kills them.
3. Rinse and repeat.
4. Rinse and repeat.
5. Luke indirectly destroys Nihilus by tossing a planet into him.

Luke wins.


hahaha no

Originally posted by truejedi
lol, oh we will. "death field" anyone?
LOL'd

Originally posted by Autokrat
1. Anakin dies, Luke smashes Exar with several trillion newtons of force and kills him.
2. Luke smashes Revan and Bane with several trillion newtons of force and kills them.
3. Rinse and repeat.
4. Rinse and repeat.
5. Luke indirectly destroys Nihilus by tossing a planet into him.

Luke wins.
LOL'd

Originally posted by truejedi
beaten at 4. If they make it 5, then it all depends on the credulity of Nihilus drain in combat, which we have never seen, so i personally deny its usefulness in such a setting.
Actually, Big N used the drain on the Exile while the entire party was in stasis. Then he falls to the floor (*kneels*) and then you get to start the fight. The only thing we don't know about it is its effect on a conventional Force user in combat. We know how long it takes- it is used at the beginning of the fight.

Luke moves black holes around, that would require trillions of newtons, its basic physics my friends.

Wouldn't that mean he can move stars around too? And solar systems? Why don't they replace Centerpoint with Skywalker?

Physics?! In Star Wars?! BAH!

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Wouldn't that mean he can move stars around too? And solar systems? Why don't they replace Centerpoint with Skywalker?
Yes it would, but since when do SW authors really pay attention to the crap they spew onto the pages?

Originally posted by Autokrat
Yes it would, but since when do SW authors really pay attention to the crap they spew onto the pages?

Except it was a doviin basal black hole, not a real one.

Except that since Dovin Basil black hole = Black hole, your point falls flat.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Except it was a doviin basal black hole, not a real one.

How is it not a real black hole? Does it still pull in light? If it does than it works like a black hole. If we squish Earth into a black hole it wouldn't be larger than my smallest finger. Just because a dovin basal isn't as large as a typical black hole doesn't mean it doesn't have an incredible level of mass.

Originally posted by Autokrat
How is it not a real black hole? Does it still pull in light? If it does than it works like a black hole. If we squish Earth into a black hole it wouldn't be larger than my smallest finger. Just because a dovin basal isn't as large as a typical black hole doesn't mean it doesn't have an incredible level of mass.

Well I'm glad yall know a thing or two about black holes. Real life microblack holes can have a mass less than that of a flea, so how sure are we that what he was moving did have an incredible level of mass? From the way it was described, the one he controlled would have probably had a mass MUCH, MUCH smaller than the earth.

I think they mean density.

If the Black Hole that Luke moved had the mass of a flea, then why was it able to alter the course of a (relatively) large ship like a coral skipper? A Black Hole with the mass of a flea would have no greater gravitational pull than that of said insect. If it was that small, then it would not affect the ship. But it did affect the ship, so it can't have had the same gravitational pull as a flea.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
If the Black Hole that Luke moved had the mass of a flea, then why was it able to alter the course of a (relatively) large ship like a coral skipper? A Black Hole with the mass of a flea would have no greater gravitational pull than that of said insect. If it was that small, then it would not affect the ship. But it did affect the ship, so it can't have had the same gravitational pull as a flea. Jesus.

He didn't say those black holes were the size of fleas, he was simply providing an example. A black hole wouldn't need to be tremendous in size to absorb plasma blasts or missiles.

Oh, and the LHC may be able to create black holes on a molecular scale.

Originally posted by Faunus
Jesus.
I dislike ignorance

Originally posted by Faunus

He didn't say those black holes were the size of fleas, he was simply providing an example. A black hole wouldn't need to be tremendous in size to absorb plasma blasts or missiles.
I missed that, obviously. The moving a black hole, or attaining the inertia of one (In the Killik trilogy) is a tremendously overpowered feat. The amount of mass required for the black hole's escape velocity to be greater than missiles and jets of superheated gas (blaster shots) would have to be pretty large.
Originally posted by Faunus

Oh, and the LHC may be able to create black holes on a molecular scale.
That'd be cool.

Dovin basals are not like typical black holes. Most often, they generate gravity fields and the like (similar to the Mass Shadows Generator gravity well in KOTOR-era).

When they do generate black holes, they're miniature black holes and have no where near the mass of typical or supermassive black holes.

Impressive? Yes. OMGWOW!? No.

I really wish Bane had moved a moon. That would've taken more power than Luke's feat.

black holes are sink holes in time and space, it doesn't always matter how big a black hole is its about how dense it is and its gravitational foot print, if a Dovin Bassals have the potential to swallow small planetary objects is impressive, that means it has a larger footprint than a moon. a black hole is the most powerful phenomenon in the galaxy, no matted how small it is, it is the only place where light can not escape, due to gravity

Originally posted by Spartan 063
black holes are sink holes in time and space, it doesn't always matter how big a black hole is its about how dense it is and its gravitational foot print, if a Dovin Bassals have the potential to swallow small planetary objects is impressive, that means it has a larger footprint than a moon. a black hole is the most powerful phenomenon in the galaxy, no matted how small it is, it is the only place where light can not escape, due to gravity

NO.


Black Holes are only impressive because of their massive gravitational pull. "But Wait!" you say. "What about 'micro black holes'? Don't they have tiny masses?"

This phenomenon is only applicable at the quantum level. That is to say, it is only relevant on the sub- sub-atomic level. To move these would require very little effort, but because they have little effect on the macro level, they can safely be ignored in this particular discussion.

The 'hole in time and space' is not really applicable in this case, as that status is an effect rather than a cause- black holes' incredible mass make them a 'hole in time' rather than a 'hole in time' making a black hole. It is a very important distinction.
Edit: If a micro black hole ate a moon, then the entire concept can be thrown out the window: SW authors are idiots. Luke can commence the planetary level destruction of whoever wrote this crap's house.

Did you just cite Wikipedia as a source? College professors and high school teachers across the globe will kill you on sight.

Its something like 95% accurate, and KMC is a heckuvalot less academically demanding than the AP exam board.



Canopy of Ice...

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Its something like 95% accurate,

...You wiki'd that, didn't you?

Nope, that was a floating meme that I just grabbed. Somebody told me that it's 'more accurate than the Encyclopedia Britannica'. I'm not sure if I believe it, but the source is 'fundamentally sound.'

SUNDAMENTALLY FOUND

Originally posted by Gideon
Did you just cite Wikipedia as a source? College professors and high school teachers across the globe will kill you on sight.

Yeah, I hate that elitist garbage. My professors say the same thing. But a lot, and I mean a lot of the stuff on there is accurate. Not research-purposes accurate, but accurate nonetheless. I've done some revisions on there myself in the phalanx and Macedonian phalanx sections.

I'm always performing grammar checks in Wiki. Someone may discover the deepest secrets of the Universe, but if they report it with "their" and "there" mixed up, I couldn't care less about their findings.

Originally posted by Tangible God
I'm always performing grammar checks in Wiki. Someone may discover the deepest secrets of the Universe, but if they report it with "their" and "there" mixed up, I couldn't care less about their findings.

Is it possible to learn this power?


I outrank you in the official Grammar Nazi rankings. You should tell me how to pwn noobs on Wikipedia.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Is it possible to learn this power?


I outrank you in the official Grammar Nazi rankings. You should tell me how to pwn noobs on Wikipedia. With a pool-noodle. Wet those things up and they sting like a b*tch.

Originally posted by Tangible God
With a pool-noodle. Wet those things up and they sting like a b*tch.
Agreed. Cantaloupe make for good projectiles. As does Watermellon. Oranges can be used as a last resort, or a personal defense.

Huh. I was talking about the spongy flotation toys used in swimming pools, but wuh-eva.

Originally posted by Tangible God
Huh. I was talking about the spongy flotation toys used in swimming pools, but wuh-eva.

So was I. When thrown at swimmers, Cantaloupe makes for a fairly accurate projectile.

I've never had cantaloupe. Any good?

Originally posted by Tangible God
I've never had cantaloupe. Any good?

Really? It is DE-licious

Hope it's better than pomegranate. All that mess for a few seeds.

http://xkcd.com/388/

Learn from a master.

I had pomegranate four hours ago. I loved it when I was little because my dad used to cut it, but now that I have to do it myself it's just a waste. Still, I'd rather get the whole fruit and deal with it than throw away several extra bucks for the seeds alone.

Cantaloupe is decent. Not great, but you've probably had it in a fruit salad or something without knowing it.