General Grievous and Jango Fett vs Doc Ock and New Goblin(Harry)

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Darth Martin
Fight takes place on in Gotham City at midnight.

Jango Fett for this fight has an unlimited amount of fuel for his jet pack. The same goes for Harry's board. I felt that Harry's physical advantage would be compensated for Jango Fett's nightvision since the fight's at midnight. Jango and Harry have all their weapons that they had in their movie. Ock's arms are titanium for this fight. Grievous has 8 lightsabers for this fight but can only use up to 5 at a time.

All four combatants start out on seperate rooftops. Who takes it, why, and vote.

Rogue Jedi
Fett and Grievous pwn here. Grievous has lightsabers that can cut Ock to pieces.

Menetnashté
Lightsabers FTW. Doc's arms get cut off by lightsabers or he just gets shot by Jango. Then if Jango can simply shoot the glider and mess it up Grievous can take Harry.

Darth Martin
Would it be a better fight if this was Norman instead of Harry.

Utrigita
No it wouldn't what from my point of view makes this battle a stomp in team ones favor is that you gave Grievous lightsabers, and they can cut through basically anything even titanium. Now had you made Doc Ocks "arms" invulnerable to the attack from a lightsaber, then I can see a interesting battle but under the current circumstances...

Rogue Jedi
Plasma bolts/blades are WAY too much an advantage.

Utrigita
Agreed, though I think the Lightsabers is the greatest advantage, I mean it's from my point of view in the cards that Doc Ock takes on Grievous and Jango Fett takes on the New Goblin, Doc Ock could possibly with the use of the enviroment had taken down Jango Fett, and New Goblin could attack Grievous from the air (safe distance) I just doesn't think that is a likely scenario since Jango will go to the air along with Harry making them naturel opponents, and that will leave Ock with four pieces of worthless metal against Grievous, his best chance is to run and possibly help Harry...

Rogue Jedi
Jango is a deadeye, he'll cut Harry down in the blink of an eye.

Robtard
Goblin with his glider, bombs, missiles, other gadgets and super-powers destroys them all, including Doc Ock.

Bardock42
Nah, the Star Warsers take that.

Rogue Jedi
Bob Lee Swagger pwns them all.

BruceSkywalker
Spite, There isn't anything Doc Ock and Harry can do here except get chopped up into pieces..


BTW RJ, nice sig and avy

Darth Martin
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Bob Lee Swagger pwns them all. roll eyes (sarcastic) Only in your dreams.


And I'm changing Doc Ock's to adamantium.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Jango is a deadeye, he'll cut Harry down in the blink of an eye.

I thought that his blasters was only effective at a relative short distance...

Robtard
Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, the Star Warsers take that.

Nah? Wtf, nah? Goglin has every advantage, flight speed, rare firepower, super-strength, agility and speed. He could destroy them all off his glider.

NonSensi-Klown
GG is faster than the force itself (practically) and is > gunships, which are > Goblin's glider. He outran and dodged hundreds of rounds of fire as well as homing missles from a Republic gunship. Goblin ahs no chance.

Aside from that, Doc Ock does not have the speed nescearry to defeat GG who can factually lay down six-teen strikes per second, coming from various angles. Take into consideration also that Ock's tenticles do not have speed feats that make them able to deflect blaster bolts, he moves at human speed meaning he can not dodge any of Jango's missles.

Team 1 also 10/10

Robtard
Why don't I remember Grievous being that badass? All I remember is him being a pansy who got shot in the chest by Obi Wan. He did completely kick-ass in the (original) Clone Wars animation though.

Also of note, laser fire in the SW universe is pathetically slow, don't know why this is and it doesn't make sense, but there it is.

Rogue Jedi
Bull to the Shizzitt.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Robtard
Nah? Wtf, nah? Goglin has every advantage, flight speed, rare firepower, super-strength, agility and speed. He could destroy them all off his glider. How exactly does he have all this great advantage? I am pretty sure that Jango has missiles, can also fly, got laser guns...

And Grievous took about 5 blasts to the heart. Before going down...Also killed a whole bunch of Jedis. Oh, and lightsabres.

They are just superior.

Robtard
Originally posted by Bardock42
How exactly does he have all this great advantage? I am pretty sure that Jango has missiles, can also fly, got laser guns...

And Grievous took about 5 blasts to the heart. Before going down...Also killed a whole bunch of Jedis. Oh, and lightsabres.

They are just superior.

While the missiles and lasers are true, his jet-pack isn't shown for more than just leap-type burst into the air. Goblin has the advantage of heightened speed and reflexes in using his weapons, combined with a very fast rate of travel on the glider.

See, when did Grievous kick-ass like that in the movie, he seemed like a pansy compared to the Clone Wars cartoon series? Not saying you're wrong, I just don't remember him doing that. Those sabres would tear apart Goblin, but Goblin is airborne and highly maneuverable.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Robtard
While the missiles and lasers are true, his jet-pack isn't shown for more than just leap-type burst into the air. Goblin has the advantage of heightened speed and reflexes in using his weapons, combined with a very fast rate of travel on the glider.

See, when did Grievous kick-ass like that in the movie, he seemed like a pansy compared to the Clone Wars cartoon series? Not saying you're wrong, I just don't remember him doing that. Those sabres would tear apart Goblin, but Goblin is airborne and highly maneuverable. Except for that time he flies away with it after killing Zam Wesell, of course.

And Grievous was much weaker than in the cartoon, agreed, but he still stood alright against Obi Wan, one of the most powerful Jedi. That should count for something.

Robtard
Originally posted by Bardock42
Except for that time he flies away with it after killing Zam Wesell, of course.

And Grievous was much weaker than in the cartoon, agreed, but he still stood alright against Obi Wan, one of the most powerful Jedi. That should count for something.

It isn't very manuerable, is it?

True, Goblin stood up against Spider-Man and his amazing abilites, that should count for something too.

jalek moye
Originally posted by Robtard


See, when did Grievous kick-ass like that in the movie, he seemed like a pansy compared to the Clone Wars cartoon series? Not saying you're wrong, I just don't remember him doing that. Those sabres would tear apart Goblin, but Goblin is airborne and highly maneuverable.
everyone in the movie was weaker and the fights was pretty lame

i think it just seemed too rushed
obi wan and grevious should have had a great fight but no they had crap

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Robtard
While the missiles and lasers are true, his jet-pack isn't shown for more than just leap-type burst into the air. Did you like totally skip the fight scene on Kamino?

Bardock42
Originally posted by Robtard
It isn't very manuerable, is it?

True, Goblin stood up against Spider-Man and his amazing abilites, that should count for something too. I figured that is what you counted for him no expression

Master Crimzon
Star War-people own. Grievous would destroy Ock with his '20 strikes per second' (RotS novelization)- Ock's arms can easily be cut apart by lightsabers. Grievous- being able to punch a hole into a metallic ship, and able to pick Obi-Wan up with ease, also has the edge in sheer physical power. Jango Fett can simply nail Goblin with either a blaster bolt or a rocket, or at least destroy the glider. I think we can all agree that Grievous will mess Goblin's shit in close combat, right?

Rogue Jedi
Correct on everything.

cruel jedi
Maybe if doc ocks arms where made of cortosis then i think i could be pretty even if he was fighting General Grevious as for the green goblin he wud just get owned as Jango would just snipe him.

Rogue Jedi
If it's a face off, Ock and Gobby are finished. Jango took on Obi Wan hand to hand and walked away, and his blaster skills are that of a Deadeye.

Grievous need only advance on Ock and slice away his tentacles or whatever they are called, then administer a killing blow.

Darth Martin
!OCK NOW HAS ADAMANTIUM ARMS!

Rogue Jedi
Lightsaber pwns adamantium.

NonSensi-Klown
Geeze, people.

Even if Ock's arms were lightsaber it still doesn't chage the fact that they simply don't move fast enough to block GG's 20 lightsaber strikes per second, or Jango's blasters/rockets etc. He's a literal nonfactor here.

And Obi-Wan would destroy Spiderman without much difficulty, so it's a moot point.

Rogue Jedi
Ock would go down quickly. I can see Gobby giving Jango a good fight for a minute or two, until Jango shoots him or Grievous cuts him down.

Darth Martin
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lightsaber pwns adamantium. Doubt it seeing how there are metals in SW EU that stand up to sabers.

Rogue Jedi
No doubt those metals are harder than adamantium.

Darth Martin
How would you know?

Rogue Jedi
Because it's a universe that is far more advanced than our own?

NonSensi-Klown
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No doubt those metals are harder than adamantium.

Actually even though the lightsabers dont cut through cortosis they do still chip it off. Luke and Mara cut through a thin wall of cortosis with his lightsaber after a long while.

In any case, even if Ock's arms were completely uncuttable by a lightsaber he would still die in a matter of seconds.

Rogue Jedi
If that long.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Because it's a universe that is far more advanced than our own? The Marvel Universe is as well, though with more influences of our contemporary one.

They are both fictional universes and Adamantium is undestroyable, I don't see why that should be overwritten by "Lightsabres are awesome".

Darth Martin
Originally posted by Bardock42
The Marvel Universe is as well, though with more influences of our contemporary one.

They are both fictional universes and Adamantium is undestroyable, I don't see why that should be overwritten by "Lightsabres are awesome". Thank you.

Placidity
Ok this is how I see it...

Doc Ock is useless. He has no range, and isn't very quick.

Grievous owns him just because he does. But I might add here that if Doc Ock was given four lightsabers, I believe the tables would definitely be turned.

Jango Fett is no doubt badass. I believe one blast from his gun would down either Ock or Goblin.

Goblin, I believe is being underestimated in this fight. As someone mentioned before, I believe he has the best maneuverability out of everyone mentioned. He also has near-Spiderman physical stats. Much like Jango, he also has some one-hit KO weapons. If he has the disintegration pumpkin bomb that his father had, one bomb would take out either Jango or Grievous. Since Grievous is limited to the ground, the battle is really between Jango and Harry. Like I said, if Harry hits him with a pumpkin bomb, then Jango is gone. But if Harry gets shot first then he is a goner. It all depends if his enhanced reflexes are enough. Overall, I would be more confident in Jango's accuracy.

But if Harry does somehow evade the first few shots by zipping around on his glider, and he gets up close to Jango, he will nail him much the same way he messed up Peter like a rag doll in SM3.


So in summary:

Grievous > Ock, but that doesn't mean crap since Harry is in the air, so its really Jango vs Harry, plus he'll probably in turn get his ass bombed.

Jango vs Harry - I'd give Jango the slight majority.

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