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Darth Vader Suited at his peak. Yoda in ROTS. Battle take place in Death Star II. Who wins?

1.Saber only
2.Force only
3.All out

1. Sabers, Yoda - 9/10.
2. Force, Yoda - 7/10.
3. All Out, Yoda - 8/10.

The sabers duel won't even be close. I gave Vader one win to cover my ass incase of a fluke.

By 'fluke' do you mean Yoda tripping, falling off into the Death Star's reactor, and then climbing back up after igniting his lightsaber on himself? If so, I agree.

C'mon guys cant be that bad considering vader is 80% of palps.
Edit: I still think vader loses most of them.

Sabers: Yoda 9/10
Force: Yoda 10/10
All-Out: Yoda 10/10

Originally posted by truejedi
Sabers: Yoda 9/10
Force: Yoda 10/10
All-Out: Yoda 10/10

and to support my force analysis: How many council members did Vader ever fight after recieving the suit? Kenobi in ANH, which was not a force battle. any others? i can't think of them. Vader, in suit, dominated non-force sensitives and Jedi who were not nearly top tier in the PT. Yoda >>>>>> than all of them. Vader would have to do something in the force against an actual quality opponent. Nearest he has come is Starkiller, however, in the situations where his TK was effective, starkiller never even attempted to fight back, so you would have to throw that out. Rahm kota doesn't begin to count, as he was beaten by starkiller in starkillers very first encounter with a jedi when Galen is as weak as we've seen him.

Yoda Dominates all three with laughable ease.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Yoda Dominates all three with laughable ease.

Well considering Vader was 80% of OT Emporer in Force power, and OT Emporer was even more powerful in the Force than ROTS Sidious, then id say the Force fight between Yoda and Vader would definetely be close with maybe Yoda just taking the slight edge.

When Yoda fought Dooku he showed he was superior but not with laughable ease. I doubt he could defeat Vader with laughable ease. Vader was force choking people across space and was able to use TK without the use of his hands with engaging in saber combat against luke in ESB.

And Yoda has been shown tooling troop ships with the force, hurdling back senate pods, and KOing two Royal Guards without lifting a finger.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
And Yoda has been shown tooling troop ships with the force, hurdling back senate pods, and KOing two Royal Guards without lifting a finger.

In ROTS Yoda used his hands when using the force always. He wave his hand when he KO the guards and threw the senate pods. I do not know what movie you saw.

The point is Vader could use TK quite well when in saber combat. He could also use force choke without lifting a finger. This will not be an easy win for Yoda.

I was referring to the pwning of the Guards when I said not lifting a finger, but ok. He still crushes troop transports, took on an army of battle droids, and manhandles Asajji Ventress, no better yet humiliates ventress

Vader loses all three.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Yoda Dominates all three with laughable ease.

How will he dominate somebody who is 80% of OT sids, and way stronger then Vastor who has power on the scale of yoda.

He's not going to be steamrolling through Vader, but he does win by a considerable margin methinks.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Yoda Dominates all three with laughable ease. He wins, but not easily at all. Vader is a monster with the Force.

^I meant to exaggerate there, the point is all established canon points to Yoda's clear victory, and that this thread has no real point

Vader's slow when compared to other top tiers. Yoda's about as fast as they get. His Ataru is perhaps the best ever. He wins sabers with ease.

Vader's strong in the Force, but if Palpatine couldn't get through Yoda's defenses, Vader isn't either. Yoda does a Sever Force or a number of other exotic light side techniques and wins with ease.

All out would just be a combination of the two. Either way, Yoda for the sweep.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Vader's strong in the Force, but if Palpatine couldn't get through Yoda's defenses, Vader isn't either. Yoda does a Sever Force or a number of other exotic light side techniques and wins with ease.Vader is 80% as powerful as OT Sidious, who you stated was "far" more powerful than his RotS counterpart. Vader is probably very close to RotS Palpatine in Force-power.

Originally posted by Faunus
Vader is 80% as powerful as OT Sidious, who you stated was "far" more powerful than his RotS counterpart. Vader is probably very close to RotS Palpatine in Force-power.
Vader equaling Palps in ROTS?

Originally posted by Faunus
Vader is 80% as powerful as OT Sidious, who you stated was "far" more powerful than his RotS counterpart. Vader is probably very close to RotS Palpatine in Force-power.

I stated DE Sidious was "far" more powerful than his ROTS counterpart. But! I agree with you, Vader's probably quite close to ROTS Palpatine's power. But close doesn't mean superior. And he couldn't break through Yoda's defenses. I don't see Vader faring any better.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I stated DE Sidious was "far" more powerful than his ROTS counterpart. But! I agree with you, Vader's probably quite close to ROTS Palpatine's power. But close doesn't mean superior. And he couldn't break through Yoda's defenses. I don't see Vader faring any better.

Yet your assertion was that Yoda would "easily" defeat Vader in all categories. If, as you say, Vader is close to Palpatine in power, he certainly won't "easily" take the Force battle.

Originally posted by Gideon
Yet your assertion was that Yoda would "easily" defeat Vader in all categories. If, as you say, Vader is close to Palpatine in power, he certainly won't "easily" take the Force battle.

If Yoda is superior in power, he should be able to use Sever Force, or Morichro, or a number of other techniques to get the win without the CIS-infested battle he had with Sidious.

Originally posted by Enyalus
If Yoda is superior in power, he should be able to use Sever Force, or Morichro, or a number of other techniques to get the win without the CIS-infested battle he had with Sidious.

You know, you're being terribly hypocritical. You'll chalk up Yoda's loss to Sidious as CIS and yet you're more than happy to credit Maul's success over Vader as superiority.

Originally posted by Gideon
You know, you're being terribly hypocritical. You'll chalk up Yoda's loss to Sidious as CIS and yet you're more than happy to credit Maul's success over Vader as superiority.

I've acknowledged Vader's superior power. I was using Maul's win to show his superior sabers skills (mostly).

The fact that during his duel with the most powerful Sith Lord in history all that Yoda uses is his saber and a Force Push is...CIS. You wouldn't agree?

Originally posted by Enyalus
I've acknowledged Vader's superior power. I was using Maul's win to show his superior sabers skills (mostly).

The fact that during his duel with the most powerful Sith Lord in history all that Yoda uses is his saber and a Force Push is...CIS. You wouldn't agree?

Right, but you periodically bring up how superior Force users lose to superior lightsaber combatants all the time. If you want to bring up CIS for Yoda, then the truth is that, in most cases, Darth Sidious would crush Mace Windu, Count Dooku would crush Anakin Skywalker, anybody would crush General Grievous, and Darth Vader would crush Luke Skywalker.

Originally posted by Gideon
Right, but you periodically bring up how superior Force users lose to superior lightsaber combatants all the time. If you want to bring up CIS for Yoda, then the truth is that, in most cases, Darth Sidious would crush Mace Windu, Count Dooku would crush Anakin Skywalker, anybody would crush General Grievous, and Darth Vader would crush Luke Skywalker.

Extenuating circumstances for Mace's victory over Sidious (Vaapad).

Dooku's a superior Force user, true, but Anakin dwarfs him in raw power. So, I don't think it is such a stretch. But even in his victory there were extenuating circumstances (Anakin had to be clear-headed - once Dooku taunted him, he became easy to handle again according to the novel).

Anyone should crush Grievous, true. Total CIS, every time.

Darth Vader could've crushed Luke if he was trying to kill him. He wasn't. So it's not CIS. But in general, yeah - if they were to go "all out" and ROTJ Luke still won - I'd call CIS.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Extenuating circumstances for Mace's victory over Sidious (Vaapad).

Vaapad doesn't negate Sidious's Force advantage. Merely his Force-enhanced speed. Furthermore, Windu wasn't utilizing Vaapad to its extremes during the initial part of the fight.



Anakin's manifested power and realized power do not equal that of Count Dooku's in terms of Force command. Dooku could have easily disposed of him with the Force.

See, now this line of questioning I like.

Originally posted by Gideon
Vaapad doesn't negate Sidious's Force advantage. Merely his Force-enhanced speed. Furthermore, Windu wasn't utilizing Vaapad to its extremes during the initial part of the fight.

I see your point. Sidious would've still had the advantage in Force mastery. That he doesn't use a Force Drain or stasis or...something else (it's 3 AM, cut me slack), can be considered CIS if you look at it in a strict sense. However, as you said, Vaapad negated Sidious' speed advantage and gave Windu a considerable boost. Therefore, Palpatine wouldn't have had a lot of time to do something of the sort.

It took Mace, what...5-8 seconds to sink into Vaapad? Beating arguably the greatest swordsman of the PT era in that amount of time could be considered far-fetched.

Originally posted by Gideon
Anakin's manifested power and realized power do not equal that of Count Dooku's in terms of Force command. Dooku could have easily disposed of him with the Force.

How? TK? Because the novelization shows Dooku throwing objects at him yet Anakin coming on, swatting them away with the Force. Lightning? Won't work, as evidenced by Obi-Wan and Anakin himself blocking it before. Force Grip? Anakin's Force shielding is probably far stronger than Obi-Wan's, considering their difference in power.

Originally posted by Enyalus
See, now this line of questioning I like.



I see your point. Sidious would've still had the advantage in Force mastery. That he doesn't use a Force Drain or stasis or...something else (it's 3 AM, cut me slack), can be considered CIS if you look at it in a strict sense. However, as you said, Vaapad negated Sidious' speed advantage and gave Windu a considerable boost. Therefore, Palpatine wouldn't have had a lot of time to do something of the sort.

It took Mace, what...5-8 seconds to sink into Vaapad? Beating arguably the greatest swordsman of the PT era in that amount of time could be considered far-fetched.



How? TK? Because the novelization shows Dooku throwing objects at him yet Anakin coming on, swatting them away with the Force. Lightning? Won't work, as evidenced by Obi-Wan and Anakin himself blocking it before. Force Grip? Anakin's Force shielding is probably far stronger than Obi-Wan's, considering their difference in power.
Do you have proof of Anakin's force shielding being "far more powerful"? in the Clone Wars movie Anakin gets put on his ass with the force twice. The Count is only knocked down because he is holding a hologram projector and saberlocks skywalker with one hand then gets uppercutted.

Sorry to spoil your fun, but can we get to the topic. I make this thread because of that Soul Calibur IV Game. I just want to see who wins.

Originally posted by Ultimate Vader
Sorry to spoil your fun, but can we get to the topic. I make this thread because of that Soul Calibur IV Game. I just want to see who wins.

Ultimate Vader.

Hi.

I will satisfy your lust for an answer.

Yoda wins most times.

I do think Yoda will win (at his peak). But how?

Originally posted by Ultimate Vader
I do think Yoda will win (at his peak). But how?

That information is not available at this time.

Oh no. The question is consuming me! Help!!

Originally posted by Ultimate Vader
Oh no. The question is consuming me! Help!!

Well, there are pet theories. But they will cause you more anguish.

But if you want a good generalization, then it is best to think of Vader as inferior to Yoda in every way.

Remember, it does not cover all - just a good generalization that satisfies most.

Originally posted by Ultimate Vader
Sorry to spoil your fun, but can we get to the topic. I make this thread because of that Soul Calibur IV Game. I just want to see who wins.
Did you play Soul Calibur IV Yoda>Vader even in non-canon

Not if I play as Vader

do we consider OT Yoda superior to ROTS yoda? we should if we are going to call OT sidious stronger than ROTS sidious. Both statements are based on logic rather than facts, because supposedly they became mroe powerful as they aged. (as evidenced by... almost everyone. ) Qui Gonn is maybe the only jedi who was considered more powerful in his youth than in his fight in TPM.

Originally posted by truejedi
do we consider OT Yoda superior to ROTS yoda? we should if we are going to call OT sidious stronger than ROTS sidious. Both statements are based on logic rather than facts, because supposedly they became mroe powerful as they aged. (as evidenced by... almost everyone. ) Qui Gonn is maybe the only jedi who was considered more powerful in his youth than in his fight in TPM.

No.

We consider OT Sidious more powerful because he dedicated himself thoroughly to the study of the Force for those two decades. It's all he did. Yoda didn't.

actually, yes... he did, and without the distraction of running an Empire. What do you think Yoda was doing on dagobah? Read pages 409 and 410 of ROTS novelization, i don't have time to post it here, but i imagine you have it right? He became an apprentice again, which makes it seem like he was going to learn quite a bit. Besides, what else was he going to do on dagobah? excercise? watch porno?

Originally posted by truejedi
actually, yes... he did, and without the distraction of running an Empire. What do you think Yoda was doing on dagobah? Read pages 409 and 410 of ROTS novelization, i don't have time to post it here, but i imagine you have it right? He became an apprentice again, which makes it seem like he was going to learn quite a bit. Besides, what else was he going to do on dagobah? excercise? watch porno?

Palpatine had galaxy-spanning resources at his disposal and collected "the greatest works of knowledge from over a million worlds" and mastered study of esoteric Force cults and organizations. Qui-Gon Jinn, who is neither omniscient nor all powerful nor nearly as knowledgeable as Palpatine, merely taught Yoda the ability to retain one's identity in the Force.

It's not comparable. If you have something that implies as much, post it.

Palpatine left the duties of the Empire to his advisors according to the Ultimate Visual Guide while he dedicated himself to the study of the Force. I strongly urge you not to speak of that which you are ignorant.

Originally posted by Gideon
Palpatine had galaxy-spanning resources at his disposal and collected "the greatest works of knowledge from over a million worlds" and mastered study of esoteric Force cults and organizations. Qui-Gon Jinn, who is neither omniscient nor all powerful nor nearly as knowledgeable as Palpatine, merely taught Yoda the ability to retain one's identity in the Force.

It's not comparable. If you have something that implies as much, post it.

Palpatine left the duties of the Empire to his advisors according to the Ultimate Visual Guide while he dedicated himself to the study of the Force. I strongly urge you not to speak of that which you are ignorant.

While I mostly agree...don't Force Ghosts have some kind of omniscience?

Originally posted by Gideon
Palpatine had galaxy-spanning resources at his disposal and collected "the greatest works of knowledge from over a million worlds" and mastered study of esoteric Force cults and organizations. Qui-Gon Jinn, who is neither omniscient nor all powerful nor nearly as knowledgeable as Palpatine, merely taught Yoda the ability to retain one's identity in the Force.

It's not comparable. If you have something that implies as much, post it.

Palpatine left the duties of the Empire to his advisors according to the Ultimate Visual Guide while he dedicated himself to the study of the Force. I strongly urge you not to speak of that which you are ignorant.

Actually Gideon, you need to read posts more carefully. Did i ever say that Yoda's level of force learning was on par with sidious's? nay, i did not. This conversation went something like this
"can we assume that ROTS yoda improved"

you said "We consider OT Sidious more powerful because he dedicated himself thoroughly to the study of the Force for those two decades. It's all he did. Yoda didn't."

Thus, you stated that yoda didn't dedicate himself to studying the force. I disagreed, because he actually did dedicated himself to studying the force. I didn't disagree that ROTS Yoda>ESB Yoda.
Just because one guy sits at home and studies the multiplication tables on wikki all day every day, and another guy goes to Purdue and gets a doctorate in mathematics doesn't mean they didn't both dedicate themselves to studying math. You are trying to disprove a point i'm not trying to make. My original post was a question.

Yes, retirement is looking very nice right now.

This was your original contention:



"Age" has nothing to do with it. The Emperor became more powerful because he dedicated himself to study of the dark side of the Force for his two decade reign, gathering "the greatest works of knowledge from a million worlds" and mastering the Force in "all its guises."

In comparison, Yoda was self-exiled on a backwater world without access to any great beacon of knowledge. He 'apprenticed' himself to Qui-Gon Jinn in order to learn the secret of retaining one's identity after death. That isn't the same thing.

Spending two decades learning one technique isn't an improvement, nor would I translate that to power.

gideon, i'm not arguing with you here. i don't think you are getting that. You answered the part of my post that you quoted above in your original reply. We were using increased force knowledge to increase their power, and THAT is what the improvement was based on. I was okay with that part of your answer. I disagreed on one itty bitty point, and that was that yoda was indeed studying the force, and not nature watching in the swamps all day.

Anakin did the technique easily

Yoda takes all of them. Vader is no match for yoda in lightsaber skill and all out, yoda would kill him any day, any time.

As for the force contest, i would like to question something: many people say Sidious got more powerful in the 20 years period between PT and OT because he could increase his force knowledge. Fair enough. However, he got stronger because his force knowledge, thus the quantity of techniques at his disposal increased.

However, I don't see how could this improve his raw power. I mean, what could he do to make his force lightning stronger, for example? He was already a master of this technique by ROTS, I think that's quite clear, so who this increased force knowledge would have a direct effect in the emperor's sheer force power or his force lightning for example?

I think once you understand the Dark Side better, you unlock more of your raw potential and thus become more powerful. That's fairly clear from PoD.

But by ROTS Sidious had already understood the dark side quite well. I think dooku makes this quite clear in ROTS novelization when he talks about sidious. Besides, as far as force knowledge is concern, he had already tons of knowledge at his disposal by Bane (whose source of knowledge is Darth Revan in person) and all that was collect by his order and his predecessors, like darth plagueis for example, which already accounted with several holocrons and artifacts if I am not wrong.

Originally posted by Darth Angel
But by ROTS Sidious had already understood the dark side quite well. I think dooku makes this quite clear in ROTS novelization when he talks about sidious.

Just because Dooku had a hard-on for Sidious and spoke about him with absolute awe doesn't make his word law.

Originally posted by Darth Angel
Besides, as far as force knowledge is concern, he had already tons of knowledge at his disposal by Bane (whose source of knowledge is Darth Revan in person) and all that was collect by his order and his predecessors, like darth plagueis for example, which already accounted with several holocrons and artifacts if I am not wrong.

Right...and then he goes and commences the Great Jedi Purge and gains hundreds of more holocrons and records from the Jedi Temple, plus advanced knowledge of the Force from numerous other worlds under his control during his time as Emperor.

Of course not, yet dooku's statement was a force aided vision. He looked to sidious using the force and he saw a dark nexus in the force. I think that says something about his attunement in the dark side at this time.



Which holocrons? Which worlds? Which dark side knowledge? He already had Revan, Bane, Andeddu's and Plagueis knowledge, as well as a 1 thousand years old order knowledge. At most he could have access to the jedi archives, but any jedi master could have this kind of access. Damn, coleman trebor could had this kind of access, and that doesn't make him more powerful then sidious... Also, if he wanted the jedi knowledge so much, if dooku had free acess to clean a planet from the jedi archives, he could also brought all the knowledge he wanted to his master, don't you think so?

The Dark Empire Sourcebook says that the Emperor gathered "the greatest works of knowledge from a million worlds" and mastered the Force in all its guises.

Yoda is wins. He has been using the force and a lightsaber longer than Vader. Yoda is better in skill as well.

Saber Only- Yoda 10/10
Force Only- Yoda 10/10
All Out- Yoda 10/10

How can Yoda defeat Vader in force only?

pull his helmet off? that should do it.

Why don't SK or anyone that fight Vader do that?

Wrong. Sidious states directly that 'Sith gain knowledge from power' as opposed to Jedi who 'gain power from knowledge' in RODV.

i think vader's helmet did come off in his fight with SK, right?

Yes, his helmet did come off when he fought Starkiller.

Oh yeah, on-topic, Vader gets F'd in the A.

Indeed, you're right.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Wrong. Sidious states directly that 'Sith gain knowledge from power' as opposed to Jedi who 'gain power from knowledge' in RODV.

And this power comes from where? Yeah. STFU.

Then why didn't everyone use that tactic against Vader? If that's how to beat Vader, then every force-adept should kill Vader easily.

oh good grief UV, i was being sardonic... I suppose Yoda will destroy vader with the force the same way starkiller did.

ironically humorous
I approve.



Can we agree that All Force users >>> Vader? Especially Johun Othone.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Can we agree that All Force users >>> Vader? Especially Johun Othone.

LS will kill you for taking his man.

Psh. I can take LS. The guy to watch out for is Dark Serpent. His 'folksy common sense' and history of reform, as well as his maverick status make him qualified for the post of Red Nemesis's nemesis.

Bring it on!

100 more years! (Of my domination of this sub-forum)

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
ironically humorous
I approve.



Can we agree that All Force users >>> Vader? Especially Johun Othone.

So you're saying Vader is easy to kill and the weakest Sith Lord in history?

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Psh. I can take LS. The guy to watch out for is Dark Serpent. His 'folksy common sense' and history of reform, as well as his maverick status make him qualified for the post of Red Nemesis's nemesis.

Bring it on!

100 more years! (Of my domination of this sub-forum)

Shaddap.

You're dead. You're not awesome enough to be a brain-eating zombie, either. You can't dominate a sub-forum like that. Only my evil mafia family can do that.

I don't care if you're my brother. 'Cuz I'm evil.

And just in case you're still, by any chances, alive...

..... The force, the darkside? Any of this ringing any bells? Sorry, but that was pretty obvious. Gideon's right, you're losing your touch.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
..... The force, the darkside? Any of this ringing any bells? Sorry, but that was pretty obvious. Gideon's right, you're losing your touch.

Cool. So, according to you, Sith gains more Dark Side power by gaining more Dark Side power, which leads to knowledge.

Great theory.

No, Sith gain knowlege from darkside power, which they get from the force. Knowledge doesn't equal power, look at Odan Urr. F'd in the A.

And its not a theory, Sidious specifically stated this to be the case. Sidious>you.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
No, Sith gain knowlege from darkside power, which they get from the force.

Darkside power = The Force.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
And its not a theory, Sidious specifically stated this to be the case. Sidious>you.

And Path of Destruction indicates otherwise. I'm inclined to believe that over your probable misinterpreted opinion of "You increase power by getting power, which gets knowledge."

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Shaddap.

You're dead. You're not awesome enough to be a brain-eating zombie, either. You can't dominate a sub-forum like that. Only my evil mafia family can do that.

I don't care if you're my brother. 'Cuz I'm evil.

And just in case you're still, by any chances, alive...

Screw that. I'm still the Pope of the Reformed Church of Zombie Abraham Lincoln. And I'm retroactively infallible. I'll be raised within a week.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Screw that. I'm still the Pope of the Reformed Church of Zombie Abraham Lincoln. And I'm retroactively infallible. I'll be raised within a week.

So you're religious and a wannabe zombie? Don't these, like, contradict? Aren't the undead blasphemous or something? I seriously don't know.

And I'm ready to exorcise you, *****.

i don't think the undead are necessarily blasphemous.... Still really disgusting... but not blasphemous. The undead ARE dead, so really they should just be thought of as fleshbots (brain dead aren't they?)
Nothing blasphemous about that.

Now if you brought them back because you made a contract with satan or something, then yeah, they might just fall under that category.)

I'm the Pope of my 'religion.' I don't think it is possible for me to blaspheme. I guess I could say I was sad about Lincoln's assassination, but I would be lying. My lord and Savior Zombie Abraham Lincoln will guard me. I am his avatar on this board. The terror of expulsion from the tophat will be yours to know!


(I'm not religious. Religulous, maybe.)

Originally posted by truejedi
i don't think the undead are necessarily blasphemous.... Still really disgusting... but not blasphemous. The undead ARE dead, so really they should just be thought of as fleshbots (brain dead aren't they?)
Nothing blasphemous about that.

Now if you brought them back because you made a contract with satan or something, then yeah, they might just fall under that category.)

Yeah, I think the church (Christian) would frown on 'fleshbots.' It would be disrespectful, or require witchcraft. If they can hate harry potter, they can hate zombies.

DOUBLE POST!!

oh, i'm sure they could, but it wouldn't be backed up by scripture. It would be a technology. (though as i said, if they were possessed by demons, and thats why they were walking around, then yeah...)

The church doesn't give a blanket approval to technology either. The whole 'to do' against birth control shows that much.






Wanna talk about creationism?

that would be the catholic church. which pretty much does what it wants... (want to buy salvation anyone?)

lol, sure, 80 more pages or so should do it. we could talk about something even more controversial. Election 08, abortion, heck, gay marriage. I just found out Jodie Foster was a lesbian...

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
The church doesn't give a blanket approval to technology either. The whole 'to do' against birth control shows that much.






Wanna talk about creationism?

Sarah Palin sucks.

Btw, you wanna help humanity? I understand that, as a zombie, you'll probably not consider the matters of the living, but still, Imonna give you an offer you can't refuse. Before I blow your head up (when you're a zombie), attack and rape Sarah Palin. Impregnate her. Make sure she's pregnant with your half-human, half-zombie unwanted baby. Do you think she'll get an abortion? I mean, seriously, I'm not sure the whole "I chose life" excuse will work here. Because, technically, the baby will only be half-alive. So, idk. Wanna put money on it?

And LOLZ, trujedi. I just watched a part of Silence of the Lambs last night (was too tired to finish watching it), and found out I had a mega crush on Jodie Foster. Then I found out she was a lesbian, and I almost slit my wrists.

i'm not a big fan of rape jokes... seduce her? that i could do.

Sorry, you're the one misinterpreting things.

Please can you post where POD backs you up becuase I'm interested in seeing that. Again, Darth Sidious, whilst teaching Darth Vader about Sith Lore says:
'Sith gain Knowledge from power, as opposed to Jedi who...'
Cue Vader,'..gain power from knowledge'

Sidious and Vader> you.



Thumbs-up.



What have you got against lesbian's? I mean, and no offence, it's not like you have a realistic chance with her anyway.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
What have you got against lesbian's? I mean, and no offence, it's not like you have a realistic chance with her anyway.

This is the second time I've been tempted to post an 'O RLY?' owl.

Seriously, though. Damn, you're the one making dead baby jokes. It's called black humor. I don't have anything against lesbians. Seriously. I love lesbians.

It's a shame they only like other women. Dang.

You're not the only one.....

Lesbians are God's gift to Hetero's.
Bisexuals are God's.



Hurray!! Paradox's all round!!!

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Sorry, you're the one misinterpreting things.

Please can you post where POD backs you up becuase I'm interested in seeing that. Again, Darth Sidious, whilst teaching Darth Vader about Sith Lore says:
'Sith gain Knowledge from power, as opposed to Jedi who...'
Cue Vader,'..gain power from knowledge'

Sidious and Vader> you.

So what is your model for the Sith acquiring power and knowledge? Show me how it works in your mind. Surely you can interpret the information you post?

Is it something like, "Sith start with Force power. Sith gain Dark Side power. By gaining Dark Side power Sith gain knowledge." ? Explain.

Bingo.

I havn't really contemplated it in my spare time but the way I imagine it is like eyesight. Imagine a person has great eyesight and can see things clearly with it. Now imagine that that person's eyesight gets better, s/he can see things clearer and farther away, increasing his/her knowledge of the world and the things in it. Taadaa!!! More knowledge.


But as I said, Sids and Vader were the ones stating it, this is just my interpretation.

that was true for Caedus. But it didn't even make any sense. I can't say i agree with you here DE. I chalk caedus sudden increase in knowledge to either his own pure genius (in-universe explanation) or poor writing (out of universe explanation)

LOL

At?

@? no comprende senor?

Yoda wins all three.

Yoda decapitates Vader.

I was asking who Enyalus was laughing at.

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pfft why does that creepy midget have to be the best of the jedi councel, makes them look even more incompetent after that horrible display at sidious office >.<
I mean anyone can teach, but being able to fight usually means you have to have at least some kind of physique for it. with star wars it's the other way around

Can I Just Remind Everyone That Darth Vader Is The Chosen One And Brings Balance To The Force, Yoda Did Not. Yoda Would Kick Everyones Ass In My Opinion But Vader Killed The Emperor, Even Yoda Couldn't Do That. Vader Takes The Crown, Even Though It Upsets Me.

Originally posted by Jedipwnsith
Can I Just Remind Everyone That Darth Vader Is The Chosen One And Brings Balance To The Force, Yoda Did Not. Yoda Would Kick Everyones Ass In My Opinion But Vader Killed The Emperor, Even Yoda Couldn't Do That. Vader Takes The Crown, Even Though It Upsets Me.

You do realize that you don't have to capitalize every word?

Also: Yoda's force mastery is far greater that Darth Vader's. Vader is mentally crippled (something like PTSD) and can't access the force as well as he used to. In a fight, where both combatants go all out, Yoda's superior mobility and mastery would tip the scales.

Yoda is just better in every way.

Originally posted by Jedipwnsith
Can I Just Remind Everyone That Darth Vader Is The Chosen One And Brings Balance To The Force, Yoda Did Not. Yoda Would Kick Everyones Ass In My Opinion But Vader Killed The Emperor, Even Yoda Couldn't Do That. Vader Takes The Crown, Even Though It Upsets Me.
Vader killed the emperor via a surprise attack and still died due the effects of the lightning, Yoda on the other openly attacked the emperor (even reflected his lightning with his hands/force) and was easily holding his own against him.

Originally posted by Jedipwnsith
Can I Just Remind Everyone That Darth Vader Is The Chosen One And Brings Balance To The Force, Yoda Did Not. Yoda Would Kick Everyones Ass In My Opinion But Vader Killed The Emperor, Even Yoda Couldn't Do That. Vader Takes The Crown, Even Though It Upsets Me.

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