Hercules VS Sentry: Armwrestle
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Superman XX5
Sentry
Vs
Hercules in an armwrestle.
Who wins?
Enyalus
Sentry. If it's Marvel's Herc.
fascistcrusader
Sentry easily.
Stoic
Sentry wins after a few minutes of wearing Herc down, he may even break Hercs arm, because let's face it if She Hulk held her own against Herc, and said she hardly felt his strength, Sentry is likely to rip his arm off if the match continues for too long.
Which means that the Sentry is stronger than classic Thor by quite a bit.
Mindset
Where did She Hulk say that?
Stoic
Originally posted by Mindset
Where did She Hulk say that?
They had a match in a bar, and she said that she barely felt him pushing, but since it was Herc, ahe let him win. I forget exactly which She Hulk issue it was, but I'm goig to guess that it was between issue's 7 and 17. Sorry but I'm not home so I can't check.
vansonbee
Originally posted by Stoic
They had a match in a bar, and she said that she barely felt him pushing, but since it was Herc, ahe let him win. I forget exactly which She Hulk issue it was, but I'm goig to guess that it was between issue's 7 and 17. Sorry but I'm not home so I can't check. Herc, was pretty Drunk, and she-hulk was amped for that duration I believe because of the suit.
Stoic
Originally posted by vansonbee
Herc, was pretty Drunk, and she-hulk was amped for that duration I believe because of the suit.
The Suit was actually damping down her strength, she was stronger without it on. All the same Sentry can go toe to toe with King Hulk, Herc can't.
vansonbee
Originally posted by Stoic
The Suit was actually damping down her strength, she was stronger without it on. All the same Sentry can go toe to toe with King Hulk, Herc can't.
Herc took hits from King Hulk better then She-Hulk getting one shoted

, very inconsistent showing for both.
Hulk > She-Hulk & Herc.
Herc all comic showing always seem like he had a chance against Hulk better then She-hulk against Hulk
Mindset
Originally posted by Stoic
The Suit was actually damping down her strength, she was stronger without it on. All the same Sentry can go toe to toe with King Hulk, Herc can't. Sentry didn't fight Hulk with just strength.
And Herc was taking multiple shots from Hulk w/o being put down, and he didn't even want to hurt him.
Herc > She Hulk
kakuzu
First off Sentry is weak and isn't anywhere near as strong as any Thor and Hercules.
Hercules wins this by a landslide. Can anybody on the internet or this entire planet show me a feat where Sentry lifted up any thing even the fraction of the weight of the sky for three hours?
How about when Hercules lifted up earth for Atlas as well?
How about when Hercules dragged Mahattan, or even held it together after Hulk tor it in half?
See Sentry is overrarted people have to stop sucking him off. There is nothing special about Sentry besides the fact he is a much weaker version of Superman. Sentry would never come close to beating Hercules in and arm wrestling match. Does anybody that actually said Sentry wins read comics? Last time I checked Sentry couldn't even hold up a hellcarrier. Hercules has lifted earth. This was so stupid to see Sentry would actually be able to be a match.
kakuzu
Originally posted by Stoic
The Suit was actually damping down her strength, she was stronger without it on. All the same Sentry can go toe to toe with King Hulk, Herc can't.
Wrong. Sentry nearly died from one hit. Herc was able to take multiple hits before fatigue kicked in. You might wanna reread. Sentry was barely able to stand Herc on the other hand was able to stand with little problem.
Mindset
Originally posted by kakuzu
Wrong. Sentry nearly died from one hit. Herc was able to take multiple hits before fatigue kicked in. You might wanna reread. Sentry was barely able to stand Herc on the other hand was able to stand with little problem. No, not at all.
I'm not sure what comic you were reading, but Sentry didn't almost die from one hit.
kakuzu
Originally posted by Mindset
No, not at all.
I'm not sure what comic you were reading, but Sentry didn't almost die from one hit.
He didn't but compared to the way Hercules face looked from one shot Sentry was in more damage. He didn't handle WWH to well.
Really If it was and all out slugfest Sentry wouldn't have lasted as well as Hercules.
Surtur
Are people actually bringing up the Sentry vs Hulk fight as if it wasn't a horribly written piece of trash.
Lets completely ignore Sentry shrugged off a hit from a planet buster, or that while holding back he nearly destroyed a planet. Or you know, doing stuff like briefly containing a cosmic cube in his hands?
No, let's focus on the one time he is written as nowhere near as powerful as he usually is, and then stick our fingers in our ears and hum when people point out WWH never destroyed anything close to a planet, and actually didn't show strength superior to even Superman? Or that Sentry releasing his "full power" when facing the hulk barely destroyed a few buildings, and yet other times when holding back..he nearly destroyed a planet?
I hate the Sentry with a deep passion, but I won't ignore what he's done. Anyone who thinks his fight with WWH made sense is either a hulk fanboy, or has such a hatred for the Sentry that he brainwashed himself into thinking that fight wasn't anything other than BS.
Mindset
Originally posted by Surtur
Are people actually bringing up the Sentry vs Hulk fight as if it wasn't a horribly written piece of trash.
Lets completely ignore Sentry shrugged off a hit from a planet buster, or that while holding back he nearly destroyed a planet. Or you know, doing stuff like briefly containing a cosmic cube in his hands?
No, let's focus on the one time he is written as nowhere near as powerful as he usually is, and then stick our fingers in our ears and hum when people point out WWH never destroyed anything close to a planet, and actually didn't show strength superior to even Superman? Or that Sentry releasing his "full power" when facing the hulk barely destroyed a few buildings, and yet other times when holding back..he nearly destroyed a planet? eat my poop
Brutacus
Originally posted by Surtur
Are people actually bringing up the Sentry vs Hulk fight as if it wasn't a horribly written piece of trash.
Lets completely ignore Sentry shrugged off a hit from a planet buster, or that while holding back he nearly destroyed a planet. Or you know, doing stuff like briefly containing a cosmic cube in his hands?
No, let's focus on the one time he is written as nowhere near as powerful as he usually is, and then stick our fingers in our ears and hum when people point out WWH never destroyed anything close to a planet, and actually didn't show strength superior to even Superman? Or that Sentry releasing his "full power" when facing the hulk barely destroyed a few buildings, and yet other times when holding back..he nearly destroyed a planet?
I hate the Sentry with a deep passion, but I won't ignore what he's done. Anyone who thinks his fight with WWH made sense is a hulk fanboy.
Well how will the writters let hulk destory a planet???
The dude can't even fly.
How would he be possible to move to a other planet???
Jumping from astroid to astroid??? (that might be even possible since there is no real friction in outer space, so he would keep moving)
He hold a planet to gether now that's a good feat.
Maybe not a planet busting feat.
And it's wasn't really a fight where they both used there powers heck sentry has way to many powers, speed, flight you name it.
It was simple and just a slugfest.
You still have to keep in mind that it's just a comic, so they showed hulks strenght by taking sentry on in a slugfest.
They may not have destroyed a lot of buildings, but you just have to except that or stop reading comics.
But wenn it only come's down to strenght I guess these two are about the same.
Or atleast they made them the same since not one really won and they both burned out.
Surtur
Originally posted by Brutacus
Well how will the writters let hulk destory a planet???
They let him take a dump all over common sense and good writing, so why not?
That doesn't mean he can destroy a planet.
WWH is not the one who held a planet together. Can't interchange other versions of hulks feats with this one. WWH is NOT the strongest version of hulk, he's just the one with the biggest jobber aura.
So that part where energy was being released and destroying buildings was...what?
Except in showing hulks strength, they jobbed out Sentry something fierce.
When not even going all out he's in danger of destroying a planet, but then against hulk and going all out he destroys a few buildings? Sorry, the "comics are comics" excuse doesn't fly, its just straight up horrible writing. Sure, badly written comics aren't uncommon, but you don't try to use them in arguments.
In reality, Sentry would own Hulk.
But sure, the version of sentry WWH fought, who forgets to use his speed and is for some reason heavily depowered in almost every way, yeah..hulk beat his ass.
Mindset
WWH is the same Hulk that held Sakaar together, just stronger.
Surtur
Originally posted by Mindset
WWH is the same Hulk that held Sakaar together, just stronger.
I was actually thinking of a completely different feat..involving an asteroid larger than the earth..
It still doesn't change the fact that Sentry holding back and fighting Genis..nearly destroys the planet..sentry going all out against hulk..destroys some buildings. I mean they could of said something like Sentry can't go all out so he doesn't destroy the planet..but no.
Just like Sentry is unphased by a punch from Terrax, who is a planet buster, and yet hulk who supposedly just held a planet together, beats him to a bloody pulp?
Brutacus
Originally posted by Surtur
I was actually thinking of a completely different feat..involving an asteroid larger than the earth..
It still doesn't change the fact that Sentry holding back and fighting Genis..nearly destroys the planet..sentry going all out against hulk..destroys some buildings. I mean they could of said something like Sentry can't go all out so he doesn't destroy the planet..but no.
Just like Sentry is unphased by a punch from Terrax, who is a planet buster, and yet hulk who supposedly just held a planet together, beats him to a bloody pulp?
Why is it so hard to believe that hulk in due time or angry enough can't be stronger than sentry just because he hasn't destroyed a planet??
I mean sure at his base strenght hulk is much weaker.
But the more angry he get's the stronger he get's.
And this hulk had a lot of control over that anger or strenght.
And maybe they should have destroyed the planet with all that raw power they where dealing out on each other, but hulk was there to take over the earth or at least punish the people who send him to that other planet and destroyed that planet in his eye's.
They need to make a story so that they sell comics even iff it's a bad story, but iff they let hulk destroy earth with all that raw power the minute he showed up on earth they wouldn't have a WWH series.
And the one who held that planet together was weaker.
Yes he did destroy a asteroid twice the size of earth, that was even his weakest version the grey hulk, but he had some help since he couldn't jump that high and fast.
So not sure iff that would only count as a strenght feat it's at the same time a durability feat since he was shot at the asteroid like a missle.
Iff he wasn't durable enough he would have been a grey spot on the asteroid.
And Sentry should win he's much faster than herc so before herc would even start his hand would allready have hit the table.
Enyalus
Originally posted by Surtur
WWH is not the one who held a planet together. Can't interchange other versions of hulks feats with this one. WWH is NOT the strongest version of hulk, he's just the one with the biggest jobber aura.
Dr. Strange says that Hulk is stronger than he's ever been during World War Hulk. And writer Greg Pak also said that WWH is the strongest Hulk to date.
About Sentry, I hate him too. But what's this about nearly destroying a planet? His battle with Photon was destroying multiple planets, and both were stated as holding back by Captain America.

vansonbee
Why can't the Hulk beat Sentry? Doomsday did it to Superman.
Sentry was in fact using his super speed in the battle against WWH. Badabing explained Sentry vs WWH arc.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=493627&highlight=userid%3A115286
Sentry stopped Terrax axe at the handle mid-swing, The panel show Sentry grabbing to Terrax hands with amp yellow/orange energy blocking both characters hands. Sentry used his exploding sun ability & super strength to overpower Terrax.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/CapztehLumby/ts-01-016.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/CapztehLumby/ts-01-017.jpg
I am sure Sentry because of his super speed/strength, can also destroy a planet, but Hulk on the other hand is stronger then Sentry physically, but lack projectile speed to shatter a planet.
Back to the thread. This is just armwrestling, so even without Sentry using his energy ability. He has shown better strength feats against WWH then Herc. SENTRY FTW
Stoic
Originally posted by vansonbee
Why can't the Hulk beat Sentry? Doomsday did it to Superman.
Sentry was in fact using his super speed in the battle against WWH. Badabing explained Sentry vs WWH arc.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=493627&highlight=userid%3A115286
Sentry stopped Terrax axe at the handle mid-swing, The panel show Sentry grabbing to Terrax hands with amp yellow/orange energy blocking both characters hands. Sentry used his exploding sun ability & super strength to overpower Terrax.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/CapztehLumby/ts-01-016.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/CapztehLumby/ts-01-017.jpg
I am sure Sentry because of his super speed/strength, can also destroy a planet, but Hulk on the other hand is stronger then Sentry physically, but lack projectile speed to shatter a planet.
Back to the thread. This is just armwrestling, so even without Sentry using his energy ability. He has shown better strength feats against WWH then Herc. SENTRY FTW
Exactly, if we look deeper into the WWHulk arc, Colossus lasted longer than Herc, on top of it all the Hulk was holding back, and wasn't really trying to kill anyone as we all saw when he buried Amadeus Cho, he just knew that Herc could take it so he gave him enough to put him down. All the same Sentry was able to match King Hulk for nearly an entire book until he was eventually overcome by the Hulk's strength.
I need to add that Herc was getting beaten by a less amped Hulk, and Sentry went the distance with King Hulk at a level far beyond the one that he was at when he nearly put Herc into a coma.
Sentry for the easy win.
Brutacus
Originally posted by Stoic
Exactly, if we look deeper into the WWHulk arc, Colossus lasted longer than Herc, on top of it all the Hulk was holding back, and wasn't really trying to kill anyone as we all saw when he buried Amadeus Cho, he just knew that Herc could take it so he gave him enough to put him down. All the same Sentry was able to match King Hulk for nearly an entire book until he was eventually overcome by the Hulk's strength.
I need to add that Herc was getting beaten by a less amped Hulk, and Sentry went the distance with King Hulk at a level far beyond the one that he was at when he nearly put Herc into a coma.
Sentry for the easy win.
Herc wasn't fighting back.
He just took it.
Stoic
Originally posted by Brutacus
Herc wasn't fighting back.
He just took it.
So are you saying that if he was fighting back that he would have looked better than he did, while he was lying down looking like a bruised prune?
Herc's body is strong, but the Sentry, and King Hulk were on another level. This is why Sentry is stronger than herc.
Yes Herc towed Manhattan, King Hulk shifted a continent, and he was stronger than when he did the shifting when he and Sentry was going at it. if you think about it on that level you come to appreciate just how strong the Sentry really is.
Let's face it if Herc was the most powerful guy in the universe the government and Ironman would have sent him in to stop King hulk and not Bob.
vansonbee
Originally posted by Brutacus
Herc wasn't fighting back.
He just took it. Good thing Herc didn't fight, he would of got one shot-ed. Herc had trouble with the old incarnation of WWH, Cho did explain Hulk was controlling the battle field making sure everyone still alive, but defeated in a sense.
Superman XX5
Sentry would win though.
Stoic
Originally posted by vansonbee
Good thing Herc didn't fight, he would of got one shot-ed. Herc had trouble with the old incarnation of WWH, Cho did explain Hulk was controlling the battle field making sure everyone still alive, but defeated in a sense.
Yep!
Brutacus
Originally posted by Stoic
So are you saying that if he was fighting back that he would have looked better than he did, while he was lying down looking like a bruised prune?
Herc's body is strong, but the Sentry, and King Hulk were on another level. This is why Sentry is stronger than herc.
Yes Herc towed Manhattan, King Hulk shifted a continent, and he was stronger than when he did the shifting when he and Sentry was going at it. if you think about it on that level you come to appreciate just how strong the Sentry really is.
Let's face it if Herc was the most powerful guy in the universe the government and Ironman would have sent him in to stop King hulk and not Bob.
First of all already said that sentry would win.
You say colossus hold out longer, even tho colossus with others fought back he was not his main attention, wenn he fought hulk alone he got his arms snapt like it was nothing. herc took few punches from the hulk right in to his face.
Even tho herc is weaker than sentry you even think he would respond to the call since he was there to help the hulk in the first place.
Stoic
Originally posted by Brutacus
First of all already said that sentry would win.
You say colossus hold out longer, even tho colossus with others fought back he was not his main attention, wenn he fought hulk alone he got his arms snapt like it was nothing. herc took few punches from the hulk right in to his face.
Even tho herc is weaker than sentry you even think he would respond to the call since he was there to help the hulk in the first place. I was just making a point, that if hercules was the most poweful guy in the universe or even in the running he would have been mentioned... he wasn't.
Enyalus
Originally posted by vansonbee
Good thing Herc didn't fight, he would of got one shot-ed.
Oh my god. Seriously? You just said that? Herc was taking multiple shots from WWH without being put down. He swung at Hulk once and ended up knocking Hulk through a building IIRC.
How would he have taken multiple shots without defending himself, yet be one-shotted when in an actual fight with him. Do you know what you're talking about at all?
Brutacus
Originally posted by Stoic
I was just making a point, that if hercules was the most poweful guy in the universe or even in the running he would have been mentioned... he wasn't.
Did I say he was no, just that you pointed out that colossus hold out longer than herc.
While one (colossus) was really fighting him and the other (herc) didn't fight back.
Stoic
Originally posted by Enyalus
Oh my god. Seriously? You just said that? Herc was taking multiple shots from WWH without being put down. He swung at Hulk once and ended up knocking Hulk through a building IIRC.
How would he have taken multiple shots without defending himself, yet be one-shotted when in an actual fight with him. Do you know what you're talking about at all?
Bro he never knocked King Hulk through a building... you are speaking of The Incredible Hulk issue 107 right? If so Herc only knocked him down, Sentry was the one that punched him through the building.
vansonbee
Originally posted by Enyalus
Oh my god. Seriously? You just said that? Herc was taking multiple shots from WWH without being put down. He swung at Hulk once and ended up knocking Hulk through a building IIRC.
How would he have taken multiple shots without defending himself, yet be one-shotted when in an actual fight with him. Do you know what you're talking about at all?

Enyalus
Originally posted by Stoic
Bro he never knocked King Hulk through a building... you are speaking of The Incredible Hulk issue 107 right? If so Herc only knocked him down, Sentry was the one that punched him through the building.

Kay - I only read World War Hulk and its linked issues once. And tried to forget it as soon as possible with lots and lots of alcohol. (Especially the final issue...that artwork in the Sentry/Hulk battle was HORRIBLE!)
Stoic
Originally posted by Enyalus

Kay - I only read World War Hulk and its linked issues once. And tried to forget it as soon as possible with lots and lots of alcohol. (Especially the final issue...that artwork in the Sentry/Hulk battle was HORRIBLE!)
I won't argue with you there, WWHulk just pulled me along, and after it ws over Ear Loeb got in the drivers seat, and no one ever tried to explain what happened to the King Hulk persona... all we got was Rulk teabags the Marvel Universe.
vansonbee
Originally posted by Enyalus

Kay - I only read World War Hulk and its linked issues once. And tried to forget it as soon as possible with lots and lots of alcohol. (Especially the final issue...that artwork in the Sentry/Hulk battle was HORRIBLE!)

all ends well. X-men vs Hulk artwork was best
Enyalus
Originally posted by vansonbee

all ends well. X-men vs Hulk artwork was best
Yes it was. And all of Planet Hulk. The storyline, too.
(And sorry for being rude earlier.)
Mindset
Herc >Colossus
Herc would last longer in a fight against WWH than Colossus would.
That is all.
Stoic
Originally posted by vansonbee

all ends well. X-men vs Hulk artwork was best
Yea Andrea Devito should have done all of the art for WWHulk.
DigiMark007
Who the crap is King Hulk, and which writer should I blame for his creation?
Stoic
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Who the crap is King Hulk, and which writer should I blame for his creation?
Marvel began calling the Hulk, King Hulk the moment he took the thrown from the Red King in the Planet hulk arc. Are you sure you want to blame Pak for the great job he did on that story?
I loved that Hulk story line even more than the Crossroads arc, it had to be the best Hulk writing in history, real epic stuff.
Endrict Nuul
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Who the crap is King Hulk, and which writer should I blame for his creation?
I know it's gay isn't it!
WWH is much better.
vansonbee
Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
I know it's gay isn't it!
WWH is much better. parts of WWH you mean

, some writers just rush the work...
tkitna
Sentry wins!
For some reason the Avengers issue comes to mind when Ares was bashing the Iron Man armor in and Ms. Marvel kep telling him to stop. Sentry just grabbed his arm and told him that was enough. Ares settled down. I know its really nothing, but that told me all I needed to know.
zeel
Originally posted by kakuzu
First off Sentry is weak and isn't anywhere near as strong as any Thor and Hercules.
Hercules wins this by a landslide. Can anybody on the internet or this entire planet show me a feat where Sentry lifted up any thing even the fraction of the weight of the sky for three hours?
How about when Hercules lifted up earth for Atlas as well?
How about when Hercules dragged Mahattan, or even held it together after Hulk tor it in half?
See Sentry is overrarted people have to stop sucking him off. There is nothing special about Sentry besides the fact he is a much weaker version of Superman. Sentry would never come close to beating Hercules in and arm wrestling match. Does anybody that actually said Sentry wins read comics? Last time I checked Sentry couldn't even hold up a hellcarrier. Hercules has lifted earth. This was so stupid to see Sentry would actually be able to be a match.
I cannot in good mind vote for sentry.
the guys still wares's his underware on the outside, this is not good!
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