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BRETT RATNER TAKING ON YET ANOTHER PROJECT WITH CONAN?

#4 Director Brett Ratner already has an insanely tight development slate that is only rivaled, perhaps, by Guillermo del Toro and Ridley Scott; Beverly Hills Cop 4, Rush Hour 4, Playboy, God of War and Harbinger are all reportedly top priorities. And yet, his name is being bandied around this week as the top choice for Lionsgate's long-in-development adaptation of the Robert E. Howard barbarian fantasy, Conan, which reportedly strives to be closer to the source material than the 1980s movies starring the current governor of California. This story isn't being run (yet) in any of the trades, but Harry Knowles' AICN is saying Ratner's involvement is "official," and so it's got to be true, right? Brett Ratner is a capable director known for working reliably and within budget, but a chief criticism of him is that he lacks a certain artistic flair. You'd be hard pressed to identify a movie as being "Ratnerian," for example. And Conan probably would be best served by someone who brings something special to the project, I think. What thinkest thou?

I'm looking forward to this movie but if Brett Ratner is directing i will no longer be hopeful or interested.

Rivaled by Del Toro ?

Pffft at least Del Toro makes batter films in Ratner.

Rush Hour 4?

Ratner earned my respect for his work on Red Dragon; he's a capable director but lacks a style of his own. Maybe that's why Red Dragon & X-Men 3 worked well - continuing the stories of the series, he imitated the styles of Jonathan Demme(from 'The Silence Of The Lambs') & Bryan Singer, respectfully. Making his own films? Not quite as successful.

Being more 'faithful' to the source? John Milius & Oliver Stone were big Robert Howard fans, and did the first Conan with whatever tech was possible in 1982.




































...Rush Hour 4?

Arnold is too old to reprise his role..


Just let the project die and maybe they'll just write more Conan novels

You don't need Arnold for a Conan movie just good directing and action. As a kid i liked Arnold as Conan but as an Adult i realize he was nothing more than a set piece.

And for ****s sake don't cast a Wrestler for the role.....

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
You don't need Arnold for a Conan movie just good directing and action. As a kid i liked Arnold as Conan but as an Adult i realize he was nothing more than a set piece.

They need something. What that is I 've no idea..


Originally posted by Kazenji
And for ****s sake don't cast a Wrestler for the role.....


Wrestlers and body builders are the only choice's..


Triple H and John Cena have long been romured

Originally posted by Kazenji
And for ****s sake don't cast a Wrestler for the role.....

If they cast Dwayne Johnson I wouldn't have a problem with that.
There was a time when Ah-nold was just a famous bodybuilder with funny english.

Guess what everyone

Its no longer a rumor it is now official Ratner is doing Conan.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Guess what everyone

Its no longer a rumor it is now official Ratner is doing Conan.


Hopefully he will make the right choices

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Hopefully he will make the right choices


Umm.....you saw X3 right? there you go.

I'd say most of the faults of X3 were on the writers. A good director can't save a horrible script, and mediocre director will have even less luck. I know that David Hayter wrote the first two X-Men films but didn't work on the third, I'd say that had more to do with the decline in quality than Ratner.

/shrug

I kind of agree with that. X-3 was a studio movie more than anything. I'm assuming that Ratner didn't have much weight to throw around in the production of that movie. He was given a gimmie blockbuster and told what was expected from him. He probably wasn't in any kind of position to step on any toe's but i still feel that he is a bad Director.

Nathan Jones should be Conan.

Another reason to hate Ratner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDqO5iiPoog&feature=related

Ratner's involvement with the project, the deal wasn't actually done.

WOOT!!!!!


http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=7810

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
Ratner's involvement with the project, the deal wasn't actually done.

WOOT!!!!!


http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=7810

So everyone can chill the f#$% out now. Yes?

Some good news....


Dolph Lundgren to Have a Role in Conan?
Source:MTV
November 9, 2009


Dolph Lundgren told MTV that he is talking to producers of the new Conan movie about maybe playing a role in the film.

"I've talked to the producers about doing something for 'Conan,'" he said. He added that "it's too early" when asked what type of role he's looking for and he said he didn't expect to know more until "probably next year."

Marcus Nispel will direct the Lionsgate release, which is based on Robert E. Howard's mythical conqueror Conan the Barbarian. The new version is expected to be more faithful to Howard's original creation than were the Arnold Schwarzenegger films.


http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=8816

Dolph Lundgren in Conan! My 80's wet dreams have come true.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'd say most of the faults of X3 were on the writers. A good director can't save a horrible script, and mediocre director will have even less luck.

Agreed, Wolverine Origins was another one like that.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Agreed, Wolverine Origins was another one like that.


So were going to soley blame the writters and not the director as well?

Originally posted by jayce78
Dolph Lundgren in Conan! My 80's wet dreams have come true.

No, they hired that OTHER, younger Austrian bodybuilder - Roland Kickinger - to be Conan.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0452199/

Lungren's role is undetermined right now.

Well the point is he's in the film , not nessisarily Conan. I didn't think he was the title role. But thanks for trying to help my confusion , even if I really wasn't. Your a stand up fan. Kudos too ya.

Originally posted by jayce78
So were going to soley blame the writters and not the director as well?

Well compared to Gavin Hoods previous films from what i've heard they did great.

Problems with the movie

keeps getting pushed back and still no lead

http://www.comicvine.com/news/conan-still-may-not-have-a-lead/140188/

Originally posted by Kazenji
Problems with the movie

keeps getting pushed back and still no lead

http://www.comicvine.com/news/conan-still-may-not-have-a-lead/140188/ Being a loin's gate movie that guy that play the role of Hercules in the lion gate production would be a good choice he is a decent actor with a bodybuilder build

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62581

Jason Momoa has been chosen and a an offer has been put out to Mickey Rourke to play Conan's father Corin.

What? What happened to Roland Kickinger?

Jason Momoa is just as good if anybody has watched Stargate Atlantis.

Conan Has Been Cast!

Source: Deadline Hollywood Daily, Latino Review January 22, 2010


According to Deadline Hollywood, Lionsgate and Millenium Films have picked the actor to play the lead role in Marcus Nispel's reinvention of Robert E. Howard's Conan and it's 30-year-old Jason Momoa, who may best be known for his run on "Stargate Atlantis" and who also appears in HBO's upcoming mini-series "Game of Thrones."

At the same time, Latino Review says that an offer has been put out to Mickey Rourke to play Conan's father Corin.

The movie is scheduled to start production in Bulgaria on March 15.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=9005

This guy doesnt have the right look and is way to small for the role. He better beef up a lot.

This sounds good though...Mickey Rourke to play Conan's father Corin.

Momoa was good on Stargate Atlantis, but as Conan he does not have the look or feel

Right look or not...i think can be handled on set with a scar or something.......but i agree that he really needs to bulk up.....maybe arnold set the bar...and i just cant see a slender conan.....who knows?

Originally posted by The Nuul
Conan Has Been Cast!


http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=9005

Well look right above and its there also

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Momoa was good on Stargate Atlantis, but as Conan he does not have the look or feel

I look at him, and I don't see it either.
Especially since Conan has roots that are Celtic-Germanic.

For me personally he really needs to bulk up a bit.

The guy is definitely to small but that can all be fixed within a few weeks. Seriously, these are actors. They are like athletes. They get paid to work out. Just like 300 a few weeks at the Gym Jones gym and this guy will be cut enough for Conan. Lean and cut is enough to pull off a Conan image. Camera angles, lighting and casting will do the rest to portray the illusion of a larger than life Barbarian. I'm not at all worried about the casting. I'm more concerned about the Director. I'm sure this movie will be shit because Bret Ratner directed, Rush Hour 3. That was the product of a hack. His previous works may not have been hack jobs but, Rush hour 3 definitely was. I can't forgive a blatant hack job. This is why i have no love or respect for Shitsberg and Ceorge Glucas.

Ratner is'nt directing this new movie its just no one has'nt changed the damn title.

oh, well thats cool then.

Originally posted by roughrider
I look at him, and I don't see it either.
Especially since Conan has roots that are Celtic-Germanic.


if he doesn't bulk up, then i hope the story is good

Isnt Conan supposed to be old? hes def not some young dude.

According to Harry Knowles

Possibly the only bright spot

http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=9138

He wants to add 10 pounds of muscle!

WOW!!!!!!!

Conan and MA's WTF? he shouldnt be Kung Fu fighting...

Originally posted by The Nuul
He wants to add 10 pounds of muscle!

WOW!!!!!!!

Conan and MA's WTF? he shouldnt be Kung Fu fighting...


its gonna take more than 10 lbs.. he should consider adding say 100 lbs

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
its gonna take more than 10 lbs.. he should consider adding say 100 lbs

Agreed, this movie will suck Krom balls.
both Mamoa and Rourke will kill it.

Marcus Nispel = Failure

Originally posted by roughrider
Marcus Nispel = Failure

aye.

Still think Rourke will be ok, the rest will suck.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=64029

Originally posted by darthmaul1
Agreed, this movie will suck Krom balls.
both Mamoa and Rourke will kill it.


i think mickey may be able to save it if he has a good story

Originally posted by Kazenji
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=64029


Lang is a damn fine actor so i hope he has a good character

Now Ron Perlman will be Conan's father

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=64215

Still good, but Rouke was better imo.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Now Ron Perlman will be Conan's father

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=64215

so will he act like hellboy or the beast from the beaty and the beast tv show??

rose mcgowan has joined..

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=9173

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/101008-set-photos-reveal-jason-momoa-as-conan

Now i'm not intersted in it

FAIL !

Looks like shit....

Originally posted by Kazenji
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/101008-set-photos-reveal-jason-momoa-as-conan

Now i'm not intersted in it

FAIL !

No closeups of Momoa...

He looks wrong even from a distance.

this is one film i will not be seeing

Even Hercules tv show looked better then this.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/101242-more-photos-of-jason-momoa-as-conan


These actually look good!!!!!


Hes still kinda small though.


Although this kinda restored my faith a bit.

Hmmmmmm

i might wait for a trailer before i start judging it.

Agreed, kinda.

YEAh i don't think so, Arnie will always be the conan for me.

Yes, but Arnie isnt true to Conans character/story.

ANother photo

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=495351&highlight=conan+forumid%3A43

Huh?

The **** i'm sure i copied and pasted from superherohype....

try again

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/102790-new-photo-of-jason-momoa-as-conan

Originally posted by Kazenji
The **** i'm sure i copied and pasted from superherohype....

try again

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/102790-new-photo-of-jason-momoa-as-conan

I don't see anything - sorry.

Try this:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=67194

Originally posted by roughrider
I don't see anything - sorry.

Try this:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=67194

I will admit - he's looking the part better than I thought.
His skin tone in particular. For a guy with a mixed background that includes Hawaiian & Native American, he is looking more like the German/Irish side of his mother. How did get to looking more pale like that?

Originally posted by roughrider
I don't see anything - sorry.

Try this:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=67194

You sure?....maybe your explorer is acting up because i can see the picture


also someone said on the comments said he looks more like Frank Frazetta's Conan.

Originally posted by Kazenji
You sure?....maybe your explorer is acting up because i can see the picture


also someone said on the comments said he looks more like Frank Frazetta's Conan.

I see it today. Yesterday your page wouldn't load up, after several tries.

There is some Franz Frazetta influence in his look. Arnold was more the John Buscema-Joe Jusko style of Conan.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/104127-more-shots-of-jason-momoa-as-conan

Wonder if this will be a one hit wonder for Marcus Nispel.

Motion Poster

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/127769-motion-poster-for-conan-the-barbarian-hits

Shit....3D for this one i hope theres gonna a 2D version of it

i don't mind seeing 3D for some movies but **** not all of them.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Yes, but Arnie isnt true to Conans character/story.

Arnie made up for that with sheer presence, only his hair was slightly off in the sense that it should have been darker and differently styled. Even without having that he looked great in the action sequences in both movies. Not to mention his heavy accent helped to give him a harsh, guttural and booming voice.

Momoa is going to be trained with the right look/origin/abilities but if he fails on the sheer presence or just doesn't have the right bearing or voice it's not going to make people think 'Conan'.

3D, I hate the ****ing thing, sooo sick of it.

Poster looks good.

http://www.cineplex.com/News/EXCLUSIVE-Conan-The-Barbarian-trailer-premiere.aspx?cmpid=homepage_showcase

Teaser "trailer" premiered on cineplex.com.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
http://www.cineplex.com/News/EXCLUSIVE-Conan-The-Barbarian-trailer-premiere.aspx?cmpid=homepage_showcase

Teaser "trailer" premiered on cineplex.com.

Meh.

Just saw the teaser, first off it's not a very good teaser and 2nd his voice sucks and he's not big enough. I think even after i see an actual trailer, i will avoid this like the plauge.

Opening in late August is not a positive sign; only the first two weekends in August are still prime box office. After that it's garbage time until the film festivals start in September. Only film I have seen that has been a hit in this kind of release slot, is Inglorious Basterds.

Doesnt matter when this movie opens. The marketing sucks and it wont do well at the box office.

If it does indeed be a good movie or at best just okay probably end have a cult following.

Originally posted by darthmaul1
Just saw the teaser, first off it's not a very good teaser and 2nd his voice sucks and he's not big enough. I think even after i see an actual trailer, i will avoid this like the plauge.

Pretty much agree, I was wondering about the voice... it is deep but I can detect a hint of accent in it. Not to mention the sword twirling looked too arty, especially for a film calling him a 'barbarian'. As for the look, he (Momoa) looks more like a pirate or a goth and even in one picture he looked a lot like Blanka from the live action streetfighter movie (minus make-up of course).

People say, well they're doing it like Robert E. Howard wrote it but they don't stop to consider that Howard probably didn't consider any film version of it to begin with. From my perspective I'd rather Arnie had done a third at the time and rounded it off how the second teased us with that publicity shot of him on the throne of his own kingdom.

That's the most annoying thing about watching 'Destroyer', that damn teaser picture at the end!

i do not think i will see this even free.. everything just seems all wrong

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Because we needed another Scorpion King...

Sheesh. Conan is barely in the trailer. Seriously, how difficult would it be to make an gritty, epic Conan movie? YOU HAVE ALREADY SOURCE MATERIAL TO WORK FROM!!!!

Well apparantly from the scriptwriter its gonna be rated R but it does'nt show it from the current trailer.

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Pretty much agree, I was wondering about the voice... it is deep but I can detect a hint of accent in it. Not to mention the sword twirling looked too arty, especially for a film calling him a 'barbarian'. As for the look, he (Momoa) looks more like a pirate or a goth and even in one picture he looked a lot like Blanka from the live action streetfighter movie (minus make-up of course).

People say, well they're doing it like Robert E. Howard wrote it but they don't stop to consider that Howard probably didn't consider any film version of it to begin with. From my perspective I'd rather Arnie had done a third at the time and rounded it off how the second teased us with that publicity shot of him on the throne of his own kingdom.

That's the most annoying thing about watching 'Destroyer', that damn teaser picture at the end!

reading is fundamental. educate yourself on the actual character.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan_the_Barbarian#Conan_the_Barbarian_.282011.29

Arnold's Conan was all wrong. Conan is tall with black hair, blue eyes and bronze skin. He weighed between 180- 210. He was a pirate, a thief, and mercenary. so in other words they got his look right.

They may have his look right for this new movie but is the rest of the movie actually good wait until the movie is out.

Originally posted by jedi90
reading is fundamental. educate yourself on the actual character.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan_the_Barbarian#Conan_the_Barbarian_.282011.29

Arnold's Conan was all wrong. Conan is tall with black hair, blue eyes and bronze skin. He weighed between 180- 210. He was a pirate, a thief, and mercenary. so in other words they got his look right.

Who frigin cares about hair and eyes (not as if he is blonde) and Arnie was tanned (not as if he was pale white)
180-210? Arnie was only 240 back then. He was perfect for the role!

Wasn't it shown in the first movie (barbarian) at the end with Conan sitting on the throne? I can't remember.

Originally posted by darthmaul1
Who frigin cares about hair and eyes (not as if he is blonde) and Arnie was tanned (not as if he was pale white)
180-210? Arnie was only 240 back then. He was perfect for the role!

Wasn't it shown in the first movie (barbarian) at the end with Conan sitting on the throne? I can't remember.

Actually people who have read the Books which the stories come from do care

but i suppose others don't.... just like with Harry Potter, James Bond.

Originally posted by jedi90
reading is fundamental. educate yourself on the actual character.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan_the_Barbarian#Conan_the_Barbarian_.282011.29

Arnold's Conan was all wrong. Conan is tall with black hair, blue eyes and bronze skin. He weighed between 180- 210. He was a pirate, a thief, and mercenary. so in other words they got his look right.

Wow, I guess those Conan books I've already read and own don't count then?

Momoa looks 100% right then? His face is quite sketetal, his build is less considerable than the other 'manly' characters in the trailer released (he is meant to be Conan, one of the manliest fictional characters ever) he is prancing about like a fairy with these sword moves and his voice is nowhere near impressive. I am aware of and have pointed out Arnold's faults and how he made up for them in this very thread so I suggest you do some reading yourself.

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Wow, I guess those Conan books I've already read and own don't count then?

Momoa looks 100% right then? His face is quite sketetal, his build is less considerable than the other 'manly' characters in the trailer released (he is meant to be Conan, one of the manliest fictional characters ever) he is prancing about like a fairy with these sword moves and his voice is nowhere near impressive. I am aware of and have pointed out Arnold's faults and how he made up for them in this very thread so I suggest you do some reading yourself.

Agreed, and FYI they do show him on the throne at the end of the first movie.

Originally posted by darthmaul1
Agreed, and FYI they do show him on the throne at the end of the first movie.

I just don't understand the hate Arnie is getting now with all this remake business. They accuse him of being a bad actor when playing Conan, do you even need to be a great actor to play Conan? Yes, Conan isn't monosyllabic but even in the books he's not overly talkative or introspective about things. And not to mention books always have an edge over films in developing a character more deeply so Arnold can't be blamed for that.

They say he played a dumb character, well I remember Arnie's Conan being quite resourceful in both movies, he seeked help when he needed it, made allies and didn't always go rushing into combat and knew when he had to retreat or sneak around. For me he looked great in the fighting scenes, not too flashy and at times- especially in 'Barbarian'- quite brutal. I love the moments in Destroyer when he and Bombaata are decimating that weakling army, as well as their fight later on. Fantastic stuff!!

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
I just don't understand the hate Arnie is getting now with all this remake business. They accuse him of being a bad actor when playing Conan, do you even need to be a great actor to play Conan? Yes, Conan isn't monosyllabic but even in the books he's not overly talkative or introspective about things. And not to mention books always have an edge over films in developing a character more deeply so Arnold can't be blamed for that.

They say he played a dumb character, well I remember Arnie's Conan being quite resourceful in both movies, he seeked help when he needed it, made allies and didn't always go rushing into combat and knew when he had to retreat or sneak around. For me he looked great in the fighting scenes, not too flashy and at times- especially in 'Barbarian'- quite brutal. I love the moments in Destroyer when he and Bombaata are decimating that weakling army, as well as their fight later on. Fantastic stuff!!

Just saw the new trailer..... i will wait for it on dvd. the best thing about this new movie getting released we will hopfully see the original Conan in all it's glory on blu-ray in 5.1 surround sound. and not the mono DVD.

IMO Mamoa does not look or sound the part,(probably why they didn't show him talk to much in the trailer) too small not defined enough, and his voice just doesn't do it for me. Arnie brought so much presence to the screen, and his accent really added to it. I just don't see Mamoa, saying KROM!!!! or if they put it in the classic "what is best in life"

This MIGHT make some money, but if it's of any quality I will be shocked.
This is made by Marcus Nispel, Michael Bay's pet!

They just announced on ep daily and it's on the bluray.com site that both the barbarian and destroyer (don't care about that one) will be released on aug. 2 woooohoooo just hope it's a good transfer and they put it in 5.1 amd not mono.

Originally posted by roughrider
This MIGHT make some money, but if it's of any quality I will be shocked.
This is made by Marcus Nispel, Michael Bay's pet!

I will just rent it. Or download it.

Originally posted by roughrider
This MIGHT make some money, but if it's of any quality I will be shocked.
This is made by Marcus Nispel, Michael Bay's pet!

$10 million opening weekend.

It's already D.O.A.

clapping

I'll check it out on dvd

i read with some reviews, theres parts in the movie where you think Marcus is attempting to do something decent and then he throws in more action.

Stan Lee suing the producers

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=44968

did'nt know a company owned the character of Conan, Thought it was Dark Horse these days.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Stan Lee suing the producers

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=44968

did'nt know a company owned the character of Conan, Thought it was Dark Horse these days.

Must relate to the decades when Marvel was publishing Conan, and Stan Lee was the official publisher then. Lots of messy legal action resulted in the late 1990's bankruptcy and restructuring, with Lee stepping down as publisher. Guess he's arguing Marvel may have relinquished the rights, but he didn't. A new movie was probably the juiciest time to launch the suit.

Watched the movie, my first 3d experience and it was good. I liked it a lot.

Originally posted by Newjak
Watched the movie, my first 3d experience and it was good. I liked it a lot.

Well, you sure passed up a lot of 3D movies the last two years if this was your first time.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
i do not think i will see this even free.. everything just seems all wrong

You ended up seeing it !

Really liked it. Having grown up reading the original Robert E Howard books, I think they did an excellent job portraying a young Conan. If they keep this up, and I hope they do, by the third film we will have somebody who makes sorcerers sh!t in their pants when he just looks at them... As the original Conan did.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Really liked it. Having grown up reading the original Robert E Howard books, I think they did an excellent job portraying a young Conan. If they keep this up, and I hope they do, by the third film we will have somebody who makes sorcerers sh!t in their pants when he just looks at them... As the original Conan did.

The film grosses $48 million worldwide on a $90 million budget - there won't be a trilogy, or even a second film, for a very long time. Until the next reboot.

And when the next reboot comes i hope a better director comes onboard.

Seeing the success of Spartacus on the small screen, I wonder if the Conan rights holders might change their view and look at Conan being done for cable. A good opportunity to do stories in long form.

They already had an Conan the Adventurer show and it sucked. They cancelled it after 22 episodes.

Just finished watching the new movie, boy did that suck! I don't think there was any mention of Krom. the damsel in distress was in distress too much. Conan can't even lifter her while she is hanging from a chain?
Morgan Freeman's voice at the beggining does NOT fit! He's good if he's talking about penguins, but for this your need more oomph in the voice. the Asian guy in the original was way better, they should of got James earl jones to do the voice. and the music was the absolute shits no powerful theme at all!!

Yeah this movie was absolute crap. Ridley Scott should have directed this, and made sure that the actors spoke archaic English. Overall, the story was as soft and weak as baby poo. this was definitely a made for TV flick.

Damn - did any of you ever read the books? o_O I am getting this horrible, sinking feelng that the majority of posters are comparing this film with the Arnie Swhartzchxhenggerr film - which had about as much to do with Conan as my spelling of Arnie's surname did... :-/

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Damn - did any of you ever read the books? o_O I am getting this horrible, sinking feelng that the majority of posters are comparing this film with the Arnie Swhartzchxhenggerr film - which had about as much to do with Conan as my spelling of Arnie's surname did... :-/

I can say i did not, but the movies should be made for everyone not just the comic book geeks. the original Conan with Ahnold was great!! movie wise! the lines and characters were memorable. this new one was terrible. no memorable lines, Conan was a weakling, the opening sequence was just bad with Morgan Freemans voice.

I didn't much care for the new Conan movie. Some thing just seemed "off".

Lets hope it gets rebooted in another 5 or 10 years.

The movie could have been sooooo much better than this!

There comes a time when stylistic posing and clever camera angles just don't cut it.
Watch and listen to the commentary on the original Conan with Arnie and the director. It's hilarious, and interesting insights are explained throughout about the development of Conan as a character.

This new film had no raw complexities in Conan's personality. That's why the older one is better.

And also the theme for that one...epic

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Originally posted by Dreampanther
Damn - did any of you ever read the books? o_O I am getting this horrible, sinking feelng that the majority of posters are comparing this film with the Arnie Swhartzchxhenggerr film - which had about as much to do with Conan as my spelling of Arnie's surname did... :-/


I have a lot of Conan comics. This movie was sh1t. It wasn't the actors, it was the director that messed up. He missed the theme of the movie, by not seeing how important an archaic dialect is, when making a movie that is centered on ancient and archaic times. I was surprised that Conan didn't say "hey whats going on dawg".

Originally posted by Stoic
I have a lot of Conan comics.

I only have one sadly, although I have three books which do have some input from L. Sprague de Camp (one of them being entirely 'his'). It's all very confusing as to why people are negative about de Camp, he carried on the adventures of Conan and credits Howard as the creator every time.

At least it's not like the situation with Nathan Long taking over the Warhammer 'Slayer' series while William King is still alive.


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Anyway, I haven't seen Momoa's Conan film but I can say for certain that neither he or Arnie have entirely fitted the look. Momoa is closer, but he doesn't have blue eyes or a square-cut mane of jet-black hair. Or the physique really, he looked ripped, but not much of a presence or bulk. The detractors of Arnie are very loud but his Conan films are very memorable and kept the essence of the character in the public eye to such a degree that Arnie couldn't even be Kalidor in 'Red Sonja' without people calling him 'Conan undercover' or something like that.

People are quick to denounce Arnie but apart from his hair he portrayed Conan well, his strength, his sword skill, his life as a thief, his sense of right and wrong, his stealth and craftiness, fondness for drink etc. The much disliked 'Destroyer' has all of these and is still hated by 'Barbarian' fans who disliked the tone lightening slightly.

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z

Anyway, I haven't seen Momoa's Conan film but I can say for certain that neither he or Arnie have entirely fitted the look. Momoa is closer, but he doesn't have blue eyes or a square-cut mane of jet-black hair. Or the physique really, he looked ripped, but not much of a presence or bulk. The detractors of Arnie are very loud but his Conan films are very memorable and kept the essence of the character in the public eye to such a degree that Arnie couldn't even be Kalidor in 'Red Sonja' without people calling him 'Conan undercover' or something like that.


Now your just getting picky there.

I knew this was going to be bad once I saw the trailer. :/

Originally posted by Kazenji
Now your just getting picky there.

Well, you know... people were suddenly being picky about Arnie's hair and acting when Momoa's film was announced and made and they were failing to see the same things about Momoa's, just an avalanche of 'It's so like the books!!!Unlike Arnie's BORING films'.

They were acting like Robert E. Howard himself rose from the grave and proclaimed this was the true version. It's doubtful whether he'd have wanted a film anyway but so many people had to speak up for him nevertheless.

I loved the part where he's drinking with that one pirate dude. Forgot his name, movie was easily forgettable, but while they're drinking there's like a huge dude sittin' between them. I was like: "What the fu-?! That dude sittin' there makes a better Conan than that Conan, shit."

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
I only have one sadly, although I have three books which do have some input from L. Sprague de Camp (one of them being entirely 'his'). It's all very confusing as to why people are negative about de Camp, he carried on the adventures of Conan and credits Howard as the creator every time.

At least it's not like the situation with Nathan Long taking over the Warhammer 'Slayer' series while William King is still alive.


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Anyway, I haven't seen Momoa's Conan film but I can say for certain that neither he or Arnie have entirely fitted the look. Momoa is closer, but he doesn't have blue eyes or a square-cut mane of jet-black hair. Or the physique really, he looked ripped, but not much of a presence or bulk. The detractors of Arnie are very loud but his Conan films are very memorable and kept the essence of the character in the public eye to such a degree that Arnie couldn't even be Kalidor in 'Red Sonja' without people calling him 'Conan undercover' or something like that.

People are quick to denounce Arnie but apart from his hair he portrayed Conan well, his strength, his sword skill, his life as a thief, his sense of right and wrong, his stealth and craftiness, fondness for drink etc. The much disliked 'Destroyer' has all of these and is still hated by 'Barbarian' fans who disliked the tone lightening slightly.


Momoa was perfect, you're right he could have been 10-15 pounds heavier, but his height was right. What they needed was a physical nemesis that left you wondering from beginning to end, whether Conan had the stones to take him out. Nathan Jones would have been great ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0428923/ ) As would a big name like Jet Li. The speech was also off as it made me feel like I was listening to a modern age person . The blue eyes didn't tear me away from the character, because there have been times in the comics that Conan has been portrayed to have brown eyes.


Arnold wasn't really a Cimmerian, he was simply too Northern European looking to be a Cimmerian, who have always been portrayed as having bronze skin. All of that other good stuff that you are mentioning (sword fighting, stealth.. etc..) wasn't Arnold's doing but the director's. Ridley Scott is the perfect Conan director, as he would not only capture the feel of ancient cities/times, but also the realism with a splash of fantasy as well without the extra slices of cheese (Gladiator, Legend).