Digi Post #4
Originally posted by King Kandy
I thought you said you weren't going to use audio against me... well whatever, most of it's in the writeup.
Had the bye week to mess around. It was purely for fun. I made a point of saying very little so that all you'd need to refer to was the written portion, since I didn't want to go back on my promise. I hope it made things easier for you.
Originally posted by King Kandy
1. Jazz built them... what proof is there that Optimus can?
2. We don't know how long it took Jazz to make them.
3. They were designed to counteract the rays from one of Dr. Doom's machines... where's the proof that they protect against actual telepathy?
The scans say they were Optimus's design, Jazz makes a couple more in seconds later in the arc, and it's a neural inhibitor capable of blocking remote influences to the brain....in a word, telepathy.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I thought crossovers were never canon, do you have any proof this one is?
I do.
http://comicnewsi.com/article.php?catid=99&itemid=9440|Stuart
An interview with the writer of the arc. Here's the important quote:
It's pre-Civil War; the story is set, in Marvel continuity, between the first and second story arcs of NEW AVENGERS.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Once again, more scans that don't show what you're saying they show. What the scans actually show is Jazz and Bumblebee hooking up some cords and transferring their power into Iron Man. Optimus didn't do a damn thing in those scans.
Look at them again. There's a line coming from Optimus as well. Nice try though. And if you say he wouldn't be able to charge it that much, that took seconds for all 3. Prime has 10 minutes. I could juice it even more if I wanted.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I never actually saw any scans of him assimilating souls in your previous battles... I saw you assimilating memories but those aren't the same thing at all. If you have any soul-assimilating scans, please do show.
Do you have any proof that the souls are all you need to call on the powers?
The rules say that you retain only experience, with no loopholes. Souls, well that's something that you've tangibly gained (if it turns out that you can assimilate them in the first place) and is not a form of experience.
You managed to fool three judges with your abilities as a tourney vet and good writer. Scoob and Leo showed how this one just doesn't work. I'll show it all over again.
Please do. I'll explain how you're wrong.
Reading helps. I already explained all of this in my first post. And I didn't fool anyone, because contrary to what you might believe I don't like having to stretch the truth for a plan. I researched it meticulously, made sure every aspect of it was legal and proven, and proceeded accordingly.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Once again you're going on the assumption that the soul transfer can work; it won't. In this case, Black Adam will need to grant powers to minion all over again, which is outside help. Hell, receiving power from Black Adam is itself outside help.
So would regular Mary Marvel be illegal in this tourney? Under your flawed logic, she would.
Anyway, you're misunderstanding the nature of their power, as well as the idea of outside help. The Marvels always have access to their power. Billy, for example, can say "Shazam" any time he wants and become Cpt. Marvel. This requires no outside "granting" of the powers, because the default is that they have access to them. Outside help, then, would be if one of the outsiders took away their access to the power, which would change the nature of their power during the battle. Therefore, I have the power...to not have it would be illegal.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah, nice shields we've got aren't they?
Nicer than Cpt. Atom when he got dumped trucked by Mary (1/3 of my total power, btw, + KK's skill)?? Doubtful.
Originally posted by King Kandy
You may notice that he actually needed to stall for time AND have been previously hit with the shield to be able to analyze and override it. He won't have those luxuries here.
But he does have the luxury of weakness identification, KK's specialty:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/titanslsh4-20.jpg
Combined with Superman level strength:
http://img147.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=61f64_posz4.jpg
As well as their speed:
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mary22sj7.jpg
http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mary23zf1.jpg
So heck, if it takes a few seconds to analyze your shields and bypass them, chances are you'll be a puddle on the ground by then anyway.
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Btw, Judges, I show the scan of Cpt. Marvel not because I have him but because I have no other way of accurately representing the power wielded by Minion Prime. Combine the 3 magical Marvel-types with KK's skill, and very few short of Sub-Skyfather show my power correctly. So anything that Billy does is actually quite <<< than what I'm capable of.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Tony never created the Eidolon. That's why every tactic you'ce suggested is planned for the wrong armor, and is thus the wrong plan.
And is why the other 4 ways I showed of beating him are still entirely valid. I didn't plan for the wrong armor. I planned for any conceivable armor. And they need to show why EM Pulses, technopathy, magnetism, or plain beatdown (with reaction times >>> theirs, btw) wouldn't work. Scans in the writeup for reference.
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Back to id for a second:
Originally posted by id369
I hope the explanation above clarifies, some questions. If you look at the explanation or take your time to read Spawn issues 152-161. I think you begin to clearly understand the reason as to why I killed off my team , absorbed their souls , and call them back . They are now resurrected with full human body function , but with the exceptions of now having Hell Spawn powers of their own . Spawn cant simply grant his powers like say Black Adam, but he can convert his team mates into Hell Spawns in this processes.
I won't try to mire through the plan to call it good or bad. My earlier objections apply, however. And judges should determine themselves whether or not it is to be believed.
But the important part here, imo, is that they have yet to show anything resembling enough offense to harm me, they sacrificed their powers to give Spawn some play-things, and they're all intrinsically linked to Spawn, meaning that they just gave me a metaphoric head I can cut off that will kill the rest of them. With what they've shown, this plan makes it easier for me to kill them.
Originally posted by id369
First off, I want members to know that we count with powerful force field, phasing ability, and the best damage soak in the tourney.
Idle boasts without proof. I'd also love to compare any and all scans you can muster to mine with Minion Prime. I'll win that fight.
Originally posted by id369
Technopathy
Even subatomic materials can't invade Tony's armor:
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cantteleportseperatlyzg2.jpg
Tony's universal technopathy, not just over Stark tech
http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imex7qd7.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imex8pd6.jpg
or accessing any energy source in the world:
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imextremis1on0.jpg
Minion is shielded from remote influencing (first paragraph)
http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00ja5.jpg
Originally posted by id369
Empathy
See my last post. I turned this into an advantage, and at the very least negated it as a tactic. And Optimus Prime would will himself through this. Seriously, that's not even a joke. Empathically assaulting him is like saying, I dunno, that you can break Cpt. America's spirit.
Originally posted by id369
Exorcism
Yeah, Minion was immobilized for the exorcism. Care to tell me how you'll be performing this as Class-Superman+ punches and unholy amounts of energy are cascading over your team in a furious, constant assault?
Originally posted by id369
Telepathy
Minion's immunity:
http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b3zd5.jpg
And can you perform telepathy on robots? Big "if" there. And we also have the psi-blockers from prep.
More epic battles shots of Optimus, btw:
http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=op5pn0.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=op6nf5.jpg
And to be truthful, this isn't just as a joke. They have yet to show anything resembling the offensive output I've displayed with all 3 of my characters, and not nearly enough to justify hurting my team, let alone killing them.
I win. Easily, at that. They neutered their own team with a risky plan that may not even boost them much. And even if you believe it, it doesn't put them near my level.
Bye for now guys. It's been fun so far.