Superman/Orion vs Darksied

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skyfather
no bfr/ale

who wins.

fangirl101
DS.

Nihilist
supes/orion stomp

on average ds cant handle supes by himself

fangirl101
Originally posted by Nihilist
supes/orion stomp

on average ds cant handle supes by himself
That would be false. On average DS has beaten Superman on almost all of their confrontations.

guy222
team

fangirl101
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/jkfw-06-15.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/NewGodsv3_08-21.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/RacerX-Firestorm35-p21.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/action638-2122horus.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_031.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_032.jpg

Galan007
i could post a handful of scans showing superman beating the tar out of darkseid, but why bother?

fangirl101
Originally posted by Galan007
i could post a handful of scans showing superman beating the tar out of darkseid, but why bother?
Yes you could. But all of your scans would be meaningless once I got thru shredding them to pieces. Superman hasn't beaten DS but one time when both were at full power with no interference. Dare to try me?

Nihilist
Originally posted by guy222
team thumb up pretty much a stomp

Galan007
Originally posted by fangirl101
Yes you could. But all of your scans would be meaningless once I got thru shredding them to pieces. Superman hasn't beaten DS but one time when both were at full power with no interference. Dare to try me? meh, i'm guessing you'd have the same 'arguments' for those happenings as a banned user called "nvr" had - and those were.... feeble-minded to say the least. also, if you're anything like "nvr" was, you'll argue those ridiculous 'darkseid-points' to absurd levels. basically, there's really no point in delving into that side of things with you. maybe someone else will oblige.

anyhow, superman/orion take this. imo. smile

fangirl101
Originally posted by Galan007
meh, i'm guessing you'd have the same 'arguments' for those happenings as a banned user called "nvr" had - and those were.... feeble-minded to say the least. also, if you're anything like "nvr" was, you'll argue those ridiculous 'darkseid-points' to absurd levels. basically, there's really no point in delving into that side of things. maybe someone else will oblige.

superman/orion take this. imo. smile
Not when Orion gets pwned with a wave of hand. Leaving Superman by himself. Of course then we have to look at the history of the two. Which Leaves DS with the greater number of Victories. Also, I could report you for innuendos.

Nihilist
Originally posted by fangirl101
Also, I could report you for innuendos. srsly grow up

Galan007
Originally posted by fangirl101
Which Leaves DS with the greater number of Victories. crylaugh0

Originally posted by fangirl101
Also, I could report you for innuendos. i said that i was guessing you'd have the same basic arguments for darkseid as "nvr" had. not once did i claim you two had anything in common. had i claimed such, your "innuendo" comment would hold more water.

smile.

darthgoober
Originally posted by fangirl101
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/jkfw-06-15.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/NewGodsv3_08-21.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/RacerX-Firestorm35-p21.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/action638-2122horus.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_031.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_032.jpg
Is it just me or did DS not really beat anybody in any of those scans but Firestorm? Getting in a single shot against somebody doesn't mean much unless unless the person on the receiving end is actually ko'd.

fangirl101
Originally posted by darthgoober
Is it just me or did DS not really beat anybody in any of those scans but Firestorm? Getting in a single shot against somebody doesn't mean much unless unless the person on the receiving end is actually ko'd.
It's you. A KO does not equal a win. If that were the case then Heroes would not have nearly as many wins as they do. A KO is a forum win. But DS clearly has the power advantage while not even interested in a fight in any of the scans.

Bentley
Interpretation much?

kgkg
only Jimmy chan can save darksied here

fangirl101
Originally posted by kgkg
only Jimmy chan can save darksied here
Orion has no wins on DS except when DS let's him win.
He's got plenty of instances where he's been owned.
Superman has one instance of Pwning DS.
Superman couldn't even save Jimmy when DS beat Jimmy's ass. No way Jimmy is doing anything here but getting pwned with the team.

kgkg
Originally posted by fangirl101
Orion has no wins on DS except when DS let's him win.
He's got plenty of instances where he's been owned.
Superman has one instance of Pwning DS.
Superman couldn't even save Jimmy when DS beat Jimmy's ass. No way Jimmy is doing anything here but getting pwned with the team. Jimmy Chan am referring to a hardcore DS fan not the comic jimmy

I guess lot of people won't get it though

vansonbee
Team wins

EkinEku
ds, oE's orion out of existence as hes not protected by the source against it, then he beats superman down omega sanctions him forever.

skyfather
Originally posted by EkinEku
ds, oE's orion out of existence as hes not protected by the source against it, then he beats superman down omega sanctions him forever. lulz, no bfr

Avlon
Team wins despite the hand picked scans. smile

Galan007
Originally posted by darthgoober
Is it just me or did DS not really beat anybody in any of those scans but Firestorm? he didn't even do that. in the next page after that scan, jason was powered back up to his firestorm state.

fangirl101
Originally posted by Galan007
he didn't even do that. in the next page after that scan, jason was powered back up to his firestorm state.
With a new partner to merge with yes.

Galan007
Originally posted by fangirl101
With a new partner to merge with yes. right. so like i said, darkseid did not 'beat' FS in that instance. thumb up

Mindset
nvr give up, nvr back down

fangirl101
Originally posted by Galan007
right. so like i said, darkseid did not 'beat' FS in that instance. thumb up
Was that his goal?

Red Hulk
Originally posted by fangirl101
Was that his goal? Lulz

darthgoober
Originally posted by fangirl101
It's you. A KO does not equal a win. If that were the case then Heroes would not have nearly as many wins as they do. A KO is a forum win. But DS clearly has the power advantage while not even interested in a fight in any of the scans.
Prrof of a "clear power advantage"? I can post hundreds of scans of random people getting in a single shot against an opponent before a conversation ensues, but it would hardly be any kind of real proof that the person who gets the shot in has a clear advantage in power between the two.

fangirl101
Originally posted by darthgoober
Prrof of a "clear power advantage"? I can post hundreds of scans of random people getting in a single shot against an opponent before a conversation ensues, but it would hardly be any kind of real proof that the person who gets the shot in has a clear advantage in power between the two.

You can never post any scan where Orion is shown to be anywhere near DS except for when DS allows it for his own purposes. And since Orion is clearly Superman's equal and direct match, any scans showing Superman being anywhere Near DS would be CIS. Since DS hardly ever uses exotic powers on Superman anymore. When he did, it was usually very one sided.

darthgoober
Originally posted by fangirl101
You can never post any scan where Orion is shown to be anywhere near DS except for when DS allows it for his own purposes. And since Orion is clearly Superman's equal and direct match, any scans showing Superman being anywhere Near DS would be CIS. Since DS hardly ever uses exotic powers on Superman anymore. When he did, it was usually very one sided.
Assuming that what you're saying is accurate(and I personally disagree with most of it), CIS is still valid under forum rules.

And you still haven'y shown proof to support your claim that those people refrained from fighting back due to DS having a clear advantage in power. Hell in one of the scans the only reason Supes didn't take it to DS was because he was being restrained.

fangirl101
Originally posted by darthgoober
Assuming that what you're saying is accurate(and I personally disagree with most of it), CIS is still valid under forum rules.

And you still haven'y shown proof to support your claim that those people refrained from fighting back due to DS having a clear advantage in power. Hell in one of the scans the only reason Supes didn't take it to DS was because he was being restrained.
The point of the scan was that Superman actually rushed DS and DS stood there and sent him flying back with no real intent of ever fighting Superman. It takes pure logic to look at the situation. If DS is always shown clearly superior to Orion, and Orion is always shown to be clearly Superman's Equal, then it stands to reason that it is illogical to think Superman is anywhere near DS in power. And given their history, DS seems to have the advantage in most of their match ups.

DS>>>Orion
Orion=Superman
So how Can Superman= or > DS?
That can't be.

-K-M-
Uuuuuh.....

darthgoober
Originally posted by fangirl101
The point of the scan was that Superman actually rushed DS and DS stood there and sent him flying back with no real intent of ever fighting Superman. It takes pure logic to look at the situation.
How's this for logic, DS stood there with no intention of fighting because he and Supes were going to be fighting on the same side(something that he knew and Supes didn't). After Supes found out the same info, he just stood around too...

What's more, DS's opinion of how Supes compares to him is irrelevant so even if you were right and DS stood there feeling smug about Supes not being able to take him down it doesn't mean anything because the Supes's character isn't subject to the opinion of Darkseid. Your scan proves nothing.

Originally posted by fangirl101
If DS is always shown and clearly superior to Orion, and Orion is always shown to be clearly Superman's Equal, then it stands to reason that it is illogical to think Superman is anywhere hear DS in power.
And if Surfer is always shown to be clearly supperior to Hulk and Hulk is always portrayed as the equal of Thor, then it's illogical to think that Thor is anywhere near Surfer in power. See what that kind of reasoning gets you?

Originally posted by fangirl101
And given their history, DS seems to have the advantage in most of their match ups.
How many times has DS actually defeated Supes in combat? Not got in a shot and then tuck tailed and run or start up a dialoge, how often has he actually puts Supes down?

fangirl101
Originally posted by darthgoober
How's this for logic, DS stood there with no intention of fighting because he and Supes were going to be fighting on the same side(something that he knew and Supes didn't). After Supes found out the same info, he just stood around too...

What's more, DS's opinion of how Supes compares to him is irrelevant so even if you were right and DS stood there feeling smug about Supes not being able to take him down it doesn't mean anything because the Supes's character isn't subject to the opinion of Darkseid. Your scan proves nothing.


And if Surfer is always shown to be clearly supperior to Hulk and Hulk is always portrayed as the equal of Thor, then it's illogical to think that Thor is anywhere near Surfer in power. See what that kind of reasoning gets you?


How many times has DS actually defeated Supes in combat? Not got in a shot and then tuck tailed and run or start up a dialoge, how often has he actually puts Supes down?

No. Thor is shown to be Physically Equal to the Hulk. While Surfer is shown using his more exotic powers on the hulk. Clearly not the same thing. Personality comes into play and there for logic. Thor likes to duke it out with Hulk. Where Surfer ain't on that. He'd cage him or drain him.

As for Superman and DS fighting, Most of thier encouters ended up with superman being OE'd away or held in some stasis beams. Not too many real fights. Most of their fights are interrupted, someone interferes, or something to make what is mostly a PIS DS much weaker than he is portrayed when he pwns Orion.

darthgoober
Originally posted by fangirl101
No. Thor is shown to be Physically Equal to the Hulk. While Surfer is shown using his more exotic powers on the hulk. Clearly not the same thing. Personality comes into play and there for logic. Thor likes to duke it out with Hulk. Where Surfer ain't on that. He'd cage him or drain him.

As for Superman and DS fighting, Most of thier encouters ended up with superman being OE'd away or held in some stasis beams. Not too many real fights. Most of their fights are interrupted, someone interferes, or something to make what is mostly a PIS DS much weaker than he is portrayed when he pwns Orion.
So that's a lot of dodging, but nothing substantial to support your claims in regards to this fight...

fangirl101
Originally posted by darthgoober
So that's a lot of dodging, but nothing substantial to support your claims in regards to this fight...
That wasn't dodging. At all.

darthgoober
Originally posted by fangirl101
That wasn't dodging. At all.
Then where's the proof to support your claims...

Originally posted by fangirl101
That would be false. On average DS has beaten Superman on almost all of their confrontations.

Originally posted by fangirl101
It's you. A KO does not equal a win. If that were the case then Heroes would not have nearly as many wins as they do. A KO is a forum win. But DS clearly has the power advantage while not even interested in a fight in any of the scans.

fangirl101
Originally posted by darthgoober
Then where's the proof to support your claims...

The proof of my claims? In the books. I've never seen superman have any clear power advantage on DS except for one book.

darthgoober
Originally posted by fangirl101
The proof of my claims? In the books. I've never seen superman have any clear power advantage on DS except for one book.
I've seen the books and I disagree about them proving your claims. For instance this claim...

Originally posted by fangirl101
That would be false. On average DS has beaten Superman on almost all of their confrontations.

What books did all these confrontations happen in? Getting in a decent shot before the fight is somehow interrupted doesn't constitute beating Supes. I can think of one instance where DS had a clear win over Supes and that was in the first encounter ever between the two.

Or this claim...

Originally posted by fangirl101
It's you. A KO does not equal a win. If that were the case then Heroes would not have nearly as many wins as they do. A KO is a forum win. But DS clearly has the power advantage while not even interested in a fight in any of the scans.
Where is this "clear advantage in power" made evident in the books from which your scans originated?

ultimatethor
Originally posted by Nihilist
supes/orion stomp

on average ds cant handle supes by himself

Galan007
Originally posted by fangirl101
Was that his goal? http://i35.tinypic.com/1j864p.jpg

fangirl101
Clear power advantages
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/action638-2122horus.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/adv459_46_ng.jpg

Thousands in harms way. DS doesn't even have control of the powers of the New Gods in Jimmy and he's still grown himself to hundreds of feat and pwning. Why isn't Superman helping?
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Countdown2p04.jpg

More examples of his clear power advantage of characters in Superman/Orion Class
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/NewGodsv3_08-21.jpg
And yet another who's in the superman/orion class who is clearly not in DS power class
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Lobogreat1.jpg

Superman could never defeat this guy with one blast. EVER. DS did. Clearly DS is on a whole other power level than People in the Superman/Orion class.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/HaCsAHunter-Prey-02-45.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/HaCsAHunter-Prey-03-03.jpg

They can't even move. Clearly he is above Superman lvl beings in power.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/AdventuresOfSuperman495p17.jpg

So yes, I do think it's very clear that DS has a big Advantage over anyone in Superman/Orion's class and even a lil bit above them( as he's pwned Classic InfinityMan as well) if He uses his more exotic powers.

zeel
Originally posted by fangirl101
That would be false. On average DS has beaten Superman on almost all of their confrontations.


yup

kevdude
Darkseid should be able to outlast them both..

quanchi112
Originally posted by kevdude
Darkseid should be able to outlast them both.. Huh? Darkseid got his heart torn out when he faced just Orion and he needed olsen and k-nite to garner an advantage. Seid cant win one imo.

Eel O'Brien
Originally posted by quanchi112
Huh? Darkseid got his heart torn out when he faced just Orion and he needed olsen and k-nite to garner an advantage. Seid cant win one imo.

What he said.

A non-jobbing DS is pretty scary, but these two can take him.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Eel O'Brien
What he said.

A non-jobbing DS is pretty scary, but these two can take him. There is no jobbing. There is only winning and losing. Supes or Orion could ake him and add them together and this is spite.

fangirl101
After Orion is Pwned with a hand wave, he's turned into kryptonite and superman is killed. DS wins. With great Ease.

quanchi112
Originally posted by fangirl101
After Orion is Pwned with a hand wave, he's turned into kryptonite and superman is killed. DS wins. With great Ease. Darkseid didnt pwn Orion with a handwave in countdown issue 2. You seem to look at only one battle to form your own conclusions. Ds only turned olsen into k-nite because of his powers. Context.....you leave so much out all the time.

Ds gets stomped.

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