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No bfring or matter manipulating or taking away of powers or trapping him inside of a force field.

The twist about this is that superman found the gym of cytorrak and cytorak himself felt the power that superman was wielding and telepathically made superman eat the gym. Now he has his powers combined with juggernauts powers. Could he take them and this is a none holding back supes. He gets a year to experience and test his upgrades before this fight.

Stalemate. Clark get's ponged for an eternity.

Pfffft! Supes gets mind raped.



... Sure, it will take time, but if Maxwell Lord did it, so can DS and Thanos.

Originally posted by Bentley
Pfffft! Supes gets mind raped.



... Sure, it will take time, but if Maxwell Lord did it, so can DS and Thanos.

Forgot the mind raping angle.

Well we know Darkseid will get his face shattered pretty quickly then its just Supes v Thanos

How are they going to mind rape him?he not only has mental reality warping in the form of t-vo but juggernauts helm as well,cyttorak enhanced supes would beat the hell out of this team....its superman speed ramming into people with superman+juggs strength with his unstoppable aura on...jesus thats just sick.

^ this guy reminds me of someone

Lol, we already know who.

You guys actually think thanos could win?

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
You guys actually think thanos could win?

Umm...........Its Thanos AND Darkseid. Just in case u didnt know

cytorakk wouldn't give superman all the power anyway, only those with destructive tendencies and ability to kill without pause get it all.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
You guys actually think thanos could win? Originally posted by ultimatethor
Umm...........Its Thanos AND Darkseid. Just in case u didnt know

Team win.

Darkseid take the beating while Thanos figure out what the hell make Superman that stronger. He then take out the gem, and rock on both Darky and Sups

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Umm...........Its Thanos AND Darkseid. Just in case u didnt know
Uh its superman not holding back with juggernauts unstoppable aura+juggernauts physical strength.....he would one shot ds and beat the hell out of thanos.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Uh its superman not holding back with juggernauts unstoppable aura+juggernauts physical strength.....he would one shot ds and beat the hell out of thanos.

good point because on panel it has been stated that juggernaut possess unlimited strength granted to him by cytorrak. I can actually see superman flying through almost all of there attacks.

Team dies. IMO a regular non-holding back Supes matches them physically. The gem would exponentially increase his stats as well as make him truly invulnerable to harm. They will not do any mind-raping before he beats them senseless. Not to mention Supes is resistant to telepathy and the juggernaut helmet would render him invulnerable to him anyways.

DS tells Thanos to make red sun Rad...

And they do that while he physically dominates them. Then even if they do manage to put a red sun up Supes will still be Juggernaut.

Edit Not to mention the OP states there will be no removal of powers.

I dont think that the red sun would have any kind of effect on superman due to the juggernaut aura surrounding him. I think that whatever juggernauts weakness and strengths are, it will also be given to superman.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Uh its superman not holding back with juggernauts unstoppable aura+juggernauts physical strength.....he would one shot ds and beat the hell out of thanos.


Superman holding back ....translation overrated. supes is nothing for theses guys its like saying


juggy and supes going full bore against thanos and darky.

team for the win everytimes

Translation your dumb and don't know what your talking about.

Why people are giving the helmet to Supes? Is not stated anywhere and its not one of Juggernaut's "powers", even worse, they can just destroy the helmet since it has happened before.

DS and Thanos are both amazing psychics, Thanos helped against Godess. Supes would try to resist the attack, but it would slow him down and they would eventually own him. Resisting a full psychic attack is taxing, worse if this are two psychics that are far over you.

The gem isn't going to increase superman's strength. we've only seen it increase regular humans. It would increase his durability. but that's it.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Translation your dumb and don't know what your talking about. reported

Vlaaad, there is no need for comments like that. This can be done with civility, so please be friendly when discussing things with other members. Thanks.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Uh its superman not holding back with juggernauts unstoppable aura+juggernauts physical strength.....he would one shot ds and beat the hell out of thanos.

Unless the gem gives supes strength in the same ratio it did to juggernaut and not simply add on a fixed amount of strength to whats already there, supes isnt oneshotting anyone( well i can at least speak for thanos). Him "not holding back" is of no consequence here.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Translation your dumb and don't know what your talking about. Stop.

Can't say I will,zeel is stupid little superman troll who never knows what hes talking about ill ridicule him when he deserves it.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Can't say I will,zeel is stupid little superman troll who never knows what hes talking about ill ridicule him when he deserves it. Warned for bashing.

Edit. If you keep this up it will be more than a warning.

Im so scared,good to see you like other forums protect your worthless trolls and play by the o be nice rules made for small children,there is no reason to be nice in debating you debate to win,if he is being a giant troll ill troll him right back.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Im so scared,good to see you like other forums protect your worthless trolls and play by the o be nice rules made for small children,there is no reason to be nice in debating you debate to win,if he is being a giant troll ill troll him right back.

You know, having the high moral ground is a widely spread way to win debates. You want to win, you don't harm your own reputation around people.

Just saying.

Superman wins this. Cytorrak's Gem, in addition to granting physical invulnerability and unlimited stamina, also would give Superman a boost in strength (by however much Cytorrak sees to give him.)

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Im so scared,good to see you like other forums protect your worthless trolls and play by the o be nice rules made for small children,there is no reason to be nice in debating you debate to win,if he is being a giant troll ill troll him right back.

That is not how things work around here. You will stop or you will face the consequences. Last warning.