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Okay, I've had this thought for a long time now so I figured I'd discuss it.

Well, let's face the truth- Star Wars can't go on forever. Well, it certainly can't go on forever while still being quality fiction- soon enough (and with LotF, 'soon enough' can be changed to 'right now'), Star Wars will degenrate and become a messy, unreadable piece of crap. So... do you believe it is possible to write a suitable ending for Star Wars? If so, what is your proposal?

Here's my opinion:

First off, I personally believe that the idea of the Jedi vs. Sith conflict persisting after RotJ is ridiculous, and undermines both Luke and Anakin's role in the grand scheme of things. Anakin was the Chosen One, and apparently, 'balance' to the force means the eradication of the Dark Side. He didn't, and apparently even Luke is, ultimately, something of a failure, if we look at the events of Legacy. So, basically, the two most important characters in Star Wars are, in the grand scheme of things- just that. Important characters. Not necessarily more important than other innovative Jedi or Sith who brought changes to the Galaxy.

BS, I say. It makes the OT and the PT- supposedly the 'heart' of Star Wars- seem almost pointless, considering that they were just more major events in the galaxy that would eventually change and become less and less important.

I believe I have a way to make the ending of Star Wars compelling and logical. More likely than not, somebody already thought of it. I sure as hell already said it, if you recall. I'm just gonna list it in a more detailed form.

Basically, everything proceeds as normal, until RotJ. Wipe the events of everything post RotJ off-the-map. And remake RotJ. First off, and most importantly, NO GODDAMN EWOKS! Make the movie MUCH darker. Show Luke Skywalker struggling with the philosophies of the Jedi and the view of the Force itself, rather than just its techniques. And in the climax, instead of having Vader turn to the light side, kill the Emperor, and allow Luke to escape, have Luke die on the Death Star. Purposefully. From the final understand of the concept of 'balance of the force'.

Think about it for a second. The force, theoretically, exists as two primary entities- the Dark Side and the Light Side. However, when unnaturally powerful users of the force- namely the Jedi- exist, they bend the force and cause it to become 'unbalanced'. And while some of you may argue "Hey! Lightsiders only do good! Why shouldn't they exist?", the sad truth is, without the Jedi, the Sith would not exist. Sith are Jedi who have been corrupted by power, greed, corruption, arrogance- basically, those who have lost all restraint on the force's vast power. And, after all, Jedi and Sith are mere mortals granted god-like powers. Mortals with mortal flaws. And we know that power corrupts- there isn't such thing as someone who is truly incorruptible. You can't expect mortals to permanently resist temptations- which is why, if there are Jedi, there will always be those who corrupted by the force's unnatural power and turn to the Dark Side. This is why having godlike powers wielded by people who are basically like us is wrong, dangerous, and 'unbalanced'.

And so, with the Sith all dead and Luke the final remaining Jedi, the opportunity is perfect. Kill the last Jedi, and for the first time in Galactic history, truly restore balance by eliminating the existence of people who can develop god complexes and be tempted by power. Such power obviously cannot be handled by a large group of individuals- even Luke's order spawned Sith like Darth Caedus. Even after his death, the Sith still exist in the much more powerful form of Darth Krayt's Empire. History will always repeat itself if any Jedi is to survive. Luke will realize this, and therefore let himself be killed when the Death Star explodes- which is the only way to eliminate the potential rise of Sith afterwards. By destroying the Jedi.

Now granted, that's a little dark. But it seems like the best ending, to me.

I do, however, see a massive problem due to the fact that force-sensitives will still be born, and Jedi and Sith teachings still exist. Oh hell, I'm gonna have to think about that some more.

Anyways, enough with my ranting. So, how do you think SW should end? If it should end at all? Discuss, and please offer reasons.

Shit, wrong forum. Can any mod please move it to the EU forum? Sorry 'bout that.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Okay, I've had this thought for a long time now so I figured I'd discuss it.

Well, let's face the truth- Star Wars can't go on forever. Well, it certainly can't go on forever while still being quality fiction- soon enough (and with LotF, 'soon enough' can be changed to 'right now'), Star Wars will degenrate and become a messy, unreadable piece of crap. So... do you believe it is possible to write a suitable ending for Star Wars? If so, what is your proposal?

Here's my opinion:

First off, I personally believe that the idea of the Jedi vs. Sith conflict persisting after RotJ is ridiculous, and undermines both Luke and Anakin's role in the grand scheme of things. Anakin was the Chosen One, and apparently, 'balance' to the force means the eradication of the Dark Side. He didn't, and apparently even Luke is, ultimately, something of a failure, if we look at the events of Legacy. So, basically, the two most important characters in Star Wars are, in the grand scheme of things- just that. Important characters. Not necessarily more important than other innovative Jedi or Sith who brought changes to the Galaxy.

BS, I say. It makes the OT and the PT- supposedly the 'heart' of Star Wars- seem almost pointless, considering that they were just more major events in the galaxy that would eventually change and become less and less important.

I believe I have a way to make the ending of Star Wars compelling and logical. More likely than not, somebody already thought of it. I sure as hell already said it, if you recall. I'm just gonna list it in a more detailed form.

Basically, everything proceeds as normal, until RotJ. Wipe the events of everything post RotJ off-the-map. And remake RotJ. First off, and most importantly, NO GODDAMN EWOKS! Make the movie MUCH darker. Show Luke Skywalker struggling with the philosophies of the Jedi and the view of the Force itself, rather than just its techniques. And in the climax, instead of having Vader turn to the light side, kill the Emperor, and allow Luke to escape, have Luke die on the Death Star. Purposefully. From the final understand of the concept of 'balance of the force'.

Think about it for a second. The force, theoretically, exists as two primary entities- the Dark Side and the Light Side. However, when unnaturally powerful users of the force- namely the Jedi- exist, they bend the force and cause it to become 'unbalanced'. And while some of you may argue "Hey! Lightsiders only do good! Why shouldn't they exist?", the sad truth is, without the Jedi, the Sith would not exist. Sith are Jedi who have been corrupted by power, greed, corruption, arrogance- basically, those who have lost all restraint on the force's vast power. And, after all, Jedi and Sith are mere mortals granted god-like powers. Mortals with mortal flaws. And we know that power corrupts- there isn't such thing as someone who is truly incorruptible. You can't expect mortals to permanently resist temptations- which is why, if there are Jedi, there will always be those who corrupted by the force's unnatural power and turn to the Dark Side. This is why having godlike powers wielded by people who are basically like us is wrong, dangerous, and 'unbalanced'.

And so, with the Sith all dead and Luke the final remaining Jedi, the opportunity is perfect. Kill the last Jedi, and for the first time in Galactic history, truly restore balance by eliminating the existence of people who can develop god complexes and be tempted by power. Such power obviously cannot be handled by a large group of individuals- even Luke's order spawned Sith like Darth Caedus. Even after his death, the Sith still exist in the much more powerful form of Darth Krayt's Empire. History will always repeat itself if any Jedi is to survive. Luke will realize this, and therefore let himself be killed when the Death Star explodes- which is the only way to eliminate the potential rise of Sith afterwards. By destroying the Jedi.

Now granted, that's a little dark. But it seems like the best ending, to me.

I do, however, see a massive problem due to the fact that force-sensitives will still be born, and Jedi and Sith teachings still exist. Oh hell, I'm gonna have to think about that some more.

Anyways, enough with my ranting. So, how do you think SW should end? If it should end at all? Discuss, and please offer reasons.

Very nice. 92 for the story. Personally, I want the same, but Luke is killed by Vader, then Vader kill the Emperor, then Vader think wisely about death of the Force (sounds Kreia), then he stays at Death Star II and boom, a big bang because of 3 powerful force users get killed. Awesome.

you are right there. It should be anakin that makes the decision to die on the death star. He is the chosen one.

A more suitable approach to the "Peace Through Death" approach would be the eradication of the Force itself, ala Kreia. Unless that happens then it will only be a matter of time until more Force-sensitives collect the will and discipline needed to become a new Order. There would always be fallible mortals toying with ethereal powers... unless those powers stopped existing.

Besides, as much as I dislike the many "Returns of the Sith" following RotJ, it'd be boring and give Star Wars a sense of incompleteness without Luke reestablishing the Jedi. IMO I've got no problem with Dark Siders like Jerec or Desann etc. stirring up trouble.

What I dislike is Dark Siders returning to a Sith mantle, who themselves have been trained by a legitimate Sith. Cuz that tends to make them a Sith, thereby negating the Prophecy. Palaptine-Vader-Vergere/Lumiya-Caedus=GAY.

I often see the phrase "Gay Jedi" in all 4 forums of Star Wars. Anybody care to explain what is Gay Jedi?

And George Lucas probably doesn't care about EU, as long as it doesn't contradict with the movies and he gets the money. He's a human after all. But I think we'll be very happy to remake the OT with same story for Episode 4 and Episode 5, Episode 6 with my story, and expand the story, also improve the effects and dueling scenes. Maybe remake the PT too, but it's just my opinion.

Off topic, but I have a question. Do someone like Star Wars : Clone Wars (the 3D movie, with Ahsoka Tahno)? Pesonally I don't like it at all. Too childish, even for a 15-year-old kid.

And no offense, but I don't like the post-Episode 6 at all. Except for JKII and JKIII game. Those are the only good things from post-Episode 6.