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Instead of the Xenomorphs on LV-426, Ripley, Hudson, Hicks and the rest of the motley crew of Space Marines take on the most fearsome hunter - The Predator.

With the exception of the self-destruct device on its wrist, the Predator is armed with its usual gear.

i would go with the colonial marines...if Arnie was able to outwit and defeat the predator...a group of far more technologically advanced marines could also

although some would be irrelevant...Spunkmeyer (what kind of a name is that anyway)

Thing is, the Space Marines had no idea what they were to encounter in Aliens. Is this the same case in this battle?

The Marines had better tech but they were for the most part, idiots.

In the end they all got ****ed anyway, if it weren't for the reactor and the extra ship they would have eventually died on that planet, all of them.

Technically they did all die.

I dunno about this fight though. The Marines do have thermal vision and motion sensors, so I suppose that they in the right conditions they can win at least 6/10 times.

Yautja ftw. Marines weren't too bright in that film.

If the Marines have no idea what they are about to face, they get pwned every time.

The Marines weren't idiots. The commander was an idiot, yes, but the rest of the bunch were well experienced soldiers that possessed great battle awareness. One bad mistake on the part of the commander compromised nearly the entire unit. Just like real life, one bad decision can get an entire unit killed. Also, the Marines were stripped of their heavy ammunition and more powerful weapons during the Alien ambush. Afterwards the Marines were left with a pathetic arsenal which is another reason why the aliens posed such a great threat. The Marines didn't expect what they found on lv426. With a full arsenal and an experienced commander along with proper intelligence on the Xenomorphs, that unit, more than most likely would have been able to eradicate the Alien infestation in that colony. I don't think that the Marines were stupid at all, just that the Xenomorphs were given great advantages and also displayed great intelligence.

Is this match against the Predator the entire Marine unit or just the Marines that survived the Alien Ambush? If it is the entire unit there should be no question that they can dispatch the Predator. If, however it is the four MArines, bishop, Ripley and a gutted arsenal i would say that the Predator has the advantage but the Marines could still take it. The Marines do have motion scanners, so that helps to compensate for the Preds cloaking but with only four Marines and limited ammunition. The Predator probably kills everyone before they know what hit them.

The ammount of ammo the marines in Predator let off could match anything the marines from Aliens could pull off.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
The Marines weren't idiots. The commander was an idiot, yes, but the rest of the bunch were well experienced soldiers that possessed great battle awareness. One bad mistake on the part of the commander compromised nearly the entire unit. Just like real life, one bad decision can get an entire unit killed. Also, the Marines were stripped of their heavy ammunition and more powerful weapons during the Alien ambush. Afterwards the Marines were left with a pathetic arsenal which is another reason why the aliens posed such a great threat. The Marines didn't expect what they found on lv426. With a full arsenal and an experienced commander along with proper intelligence on the Xenomorphs, that unit, more than most likely would have been able to eradicate the Alien infestation in that colony. I don't think that the Marines were stupid at all, just that the Xenomorphs were given great advantages and also displayed great intelligence.

Is this match against the Predator the entire Marine unit or just the Marines that survived the Alien Ambush? If it is the entire unit there should be no question that they can dispatch the Predator. If, however it is the four MArines, bishop, Ripley and a gutted arsenal i would say that the Predator has the advantage but the Marines could still take it. The Marines do have motion scanners, so that helps to compensate for the Preds cloaking but with only four Marines and limited ammunition. The Predator probably kills everyone before they know what hit them. And wouldnt the Marines have the same stupid commander in this scenario?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And wouldnt the Marines have the same stupid commander in this scenario?

Nah. Gorman's not in this matchup. Too easy of a kill. Apone and Hicks are in charge.

With Hicks in charge I think they have a better chance.

This is assuming Hicks doesn't die first. If Hicks dies first I think that the rest will fall into chaos. He struck me as the most rational out of all of them even Ripley.

Originally posted by Snafu the Great
Nah. Gorman's not in this matchup. Too easy of a kill. Apone and Hicks are in charge. Well, again I ask, do they have an idea what awaits them?

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
With Hicks in charge I think they have a better chance.

This is assuming Hicks doesn't die first. If Hicks dies first I think that the rest will fall into chaos. He struck me as the most rational out of all of them even Ripley. BTW: Vasquez..... droolio

had a shaved head. Among other things.

Dude she was HOT.

Originally posted by deathbycorn
The ammount of ammo the marines in Predator let off could match anything the marines from Aliens could pull off.

I'm sure the type of ammunition that the marines used was much more sophisticated than what was used in Predator. The MArines had smart guns and M41-A's. The Special op's soldiers in Predator had a mini-gun a few assualt rifles and a shotgun. The Marines were in space, so im sure the munitions technology had evolved.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And wouldnt the Marines have the same stupid commander in this scenario?

I dont know, i was just saying that an Entire unit should not be judged on the inexperience of one. Even then, if Gorman had proper intelligence, im sure the Xenomorphs would not have been a problem at all.

Gorman wasn't really stupid, I think. He was just incredibly inexperienced; he freaked.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Gorman wasn't really stupid, I think. He was just incredibly inexperienced; he freaked. He froze, thats all. When in a combat situation, when with Vasquez, he kinda kicked ass.

Yeah, that look on his face during the ambush wasnt the look of stupid but the look of shock, he did kind of redeemed himself near the end too.

Vasquez droolio



I know I said it already, but DAMN droolio

Where does this fight take place?

Like someone said earlier, if its the entire marine unit, then I would say the marines would win.

Also depends heavily on the environment IMO. If it's in a compound type facility, marines win. If in the jungle, then its a huge advantage to the Predator.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Vasquez droolio



I know I said it already, but DAMN droolio

She might be even finer in near dark.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
She might be even finer in near dark. No way man, take that back.

Weapons...weapons....weapons...

To make sure that there is no screaming match over who has what, here is a rundown on the weapons that the Colonial Marines possess.

1. M41A Pulse Rifle - standard assault rifle. Standard ammo is steel-jacketed and explosive-tipped.

2. M240A1 Flamethrower - standard flamethrower. Ripley has this taped to her pulse rifle. Badass.

3. M56 Smartgun - Vasquez and Drake are holding these babies. Uses same ammo as the pulse rifle.

Hicks also got his sawed-off shotty for 'close encounters,' in place of his sidearm, while the others are armed with M4A3 pistols

As mentioned, the Pred has his standard gear.

And did anyone else notices how James Cameron reuses actors in his movies?

Because Michael Biehn is bad ass.

My vote goes to the humans.

The Yautja are bad ass, but just one against a platoon of Space Marines? Nah. Preddy gets turned into swiss cheese. Just look at what Arnold did to the first Predator in the jungle with some mud and a tree.

But you gotta admit that Biehn gets the short end of the stick in most of his movies. He dies in Terminator 1, Clockstoppers and recently, Planet Terror.

As for the James Cameron Alumni, I've dug around and here's what I found:

1. Bill Paxton: Aliens, Terminator 1, True Lies, Titanic
2. Micheal Biehn: Aliens, both Terminator flims
3. Jeanette Goldstein (Vasquez): Aliens, Terminator 2, Titanic
4. Lance Hendrikssen: Aliens, Terminator 1

and that's off the top of my head

I just realized...

Did gaz, from CoD4, take that shotgun line from Aliens 2?

I was playing the ship level in CoD4 yesterday and he whips out a shotgun and says he likes to have it for close encounters. Than someone else says "I hear that".

Homage, no?

Originally posted by Snafu the Great
But you gotta admit that Biehn gets the short end of the stick in most of his movies. He dies in Terminator 1, Clockstoppers and recently, Planet Terror.

As for the James Cameron Alumni, I've dug around and here's what I found:

1. Bill Paxton: Aliens, Terminator 1, True Lies, Titanic
2. Micheal Biehn: Aliens, both Terminator flims
3. Jeanette Goldstein (Vasquez): Aliens, Terminator 2, Titanic
4. Lance Hendrikssen: Aliens, Terminator 1

and that's off the top of my head

i always wondered why half of the Aliens cast was in Near Dark.


Without motion detectors the Marines don't have a chance. So i'll give this to the Predator.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, again I ask, do they have an idea what awaits them?

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
I just realized...

Did gaz, from CoD4, take that shotgun line from Aliens 2?

I was playing the ship level in CoD4 yesterday and he whips out a shotgun and says he likes to have it for close encounters. Than someone else says "I hear that".

Homage, no?

I remember that too. Looks like the guys in CoD4 are either Aliens or James Cameron fans.

Either way, it's a fitting homage for the movie which scared me as a kid.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, again I ask, do they have an idea what awaits them?

A horde of xenos?

Originally posted by Impediment
A horde of xenos? No, dude. In this scenario do the Marines have an idea that a Predator awaits them?

Doubtful. The Yautja are silent stalkers.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, dude. In this scenario do the Marines have an idea that a Predator awaits them?

Just to be sadistic, I'll stick Gorman back into the fray...just so Ripley and the space marines can witness Gorman getting blasted to shit by Pred's shoulder cannon.

And I'm talking about the blast that left a hole in Ventura's torso in Pred 1.

Originally posted by Snafu the Great
Just to be sadistic, I'll stick Gorman back into the fray...just so Ripley and the space marines can witness Gorman getting blasted to shit by Pred's shoulder cannon.

And I'm talking about the blast that left a hole in Ventura's torso in Pred 1. AS....THE...MARINES.....APPROACH.....THE....PLANET........DO....THEY....KNOW.....WHAT.......AWAITS....THEM....INSIDE?

Do the Marines know that a hostile alien is hunting them, Snafu?

^

Yes - They Win

No - They Win

Hey btw, did you know originally in the movie they were going to include sentry guns in the film, but later deleted it? That would've been so awesome.

If the Marines know a Predator is inside and prepares for it, they likely will win. If taken by surprise, as they were in the movie, they are dead.

Originally posted by Impediment
Do the Marines know that a hostile alien is hunting them, Snafu?

Nope. They think that this is a rescue mission, as is in the movie.

They didn't know what was waiting for them in Aliens anyway. All they knew was that there were "aliens" and no from the marines gave a shit about what Ripley was saying about it.

Originally posted by Placidity
^

Yes - They Win

No - They Win

Hey btw, did you know originally in the movie they were going to include sentry guns in the film, but later deleted it? That would've been so awesome.

That is one of the best scenes in the D-cut

I reckon the Marines win in the long run. Especially considering the environment. An off world settlement with narrow corridors and ventilation shafts. This isn't the jungle. The marines would lose a few before they realize what they're dealing with. And group up and make motion turrets outside their sealed and enclosed area. It would become a waiting game. With their escape based upon the pilot in their ship circling the environment once an escape plan is made it would be the team blasting their way out strategically whilst the Predator hangs back looking for pot shots.

Marines had motion detectors...
predator moves he get lit the fk up

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Marines had motion detectors...
predator moves he get lit the fk up

The Predator would avoid such turrets though with trial and error. With its enhanced vision it's arguable whether the Predator could avoid such weapons and simply stalk the team. Question is do you think the Predator could take out a motion turret with a quick plasma burst before the turret can tag him?

Those turrets minced Alien before they realized they could hit the air ducts.

no they had motion detectors on hand