If Jesus ran for office...

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Grand-Moff-Gav
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Watch this satirical video on how republicans might respond to a campaign of Jesus Christ to become President of the US. Think about it, then comment.

Republican Christians...are you really in line with Jesus?

AngryManatee
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Shakyamunison
He would not win. He was a Jew. stick out tongue

Devil King
I think Kid Rock is somewhere thinking he was absolutely right about how the entire country sees Barack Obama.

On the other hand, I think most "christians" in this country would kick Jesus's ass and drag him around with their pick up truck until his head came off and then they'd call him a tree-hugging, liberal socialist, ****** lover who "wown'ts tah sprayd ur weylth".

NOT IN MY OVAL OFFICE!!!!

Adam_PoE
Does "Oval Office" not seem like it would be a euphemism for "vagina"?

Devil King
Not really.

chithappens
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
He would not win. He was a Jew. stick out tongue

Win

Robtard
That video ignores the fact that Jesus was a total badass in-line with Republican ideals. He approved of his followers carrying swords (the gun of the time) and he wasn't a peaceful liberal either, as he threatened the Jew money-lenders by shaking a whip at them once and knocked over a few tables.

Symmetric Chaos
I wouldn't vote for him. Mainly because he couldn't run for office at all.

Devil King
Originally posted by Robtard
That video ignores the fact that Jesus was a total badass in-line with Republican ideals. He approved of his followers carrying swords (the gun of the time) and he wasn't a peaceful liberal either, as he threatened the Jew money-lenders by shaking a whip at them once and knocked over a few tables. But you gotta look at the context.

lord xyz
Saw that video a long time ago.

Edward Current is awesome, though. This is one of his less funny videos.

Da Pittman
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I wouldn't vote for him. Mainly because he couldn't run for office at all. yes Damn foreigners stick out tongue

Deja~vu
Mixing old and new testaments isn't fair. They contradict each other. If you look at Paul, it seems that he was more into socialism. Jesus by himself would not make a good ruler UNLESS, others followed suit.

WrathfulDwarf
I would vote for him.

Buddha can be Vice President. Mohammed can be Secretary of State. Krishna can be Foreign policy administrator.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Mixing old and new testaments isn't fair. They contradict each other. If you look at Paul, it seems that he was more into socialism. Jesus by himself would not make a good ruler UNLESS, others followed suit.

He's Jesus. Everyone would follow him.

Devil King
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He's Jesus. Everyone would follow him.

not everyone.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Devil King
not everyone.

Well if he had a way to prove it all Christians would follow him. Then there's the whole "all other faiths are probably wrong" thing that nets him a few more. Charisma picks up the rest. Ninja assassins (implied but never shown in the Bible) remove all remaining dissent.

Devil King
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well if he had a way to prove it all Christians would follow him. Then there's the whole "all other faiths are probably wrong" thing that nets him a few more. Charisma picks up the rest. Ninja assassins (implied but never shown in the Bible) remove all remaining dissent.

If he could prove it, then there is no need for "faith". "Faith" is the catch 22 of every religion experince and subscribed to in every epoch.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Devil King
If he could prove it, then there is no need for "faith". "Faith" is the catch 22 of every religion experince and subscribed to in every epoch.

I think if Jesus were to show up faith would be pretty much out the window.

Devil King
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think if Jesus were to show up faith would be pretty much out the window.

But he never does. He's found in burnt toast or a piss stain on an over pass, but he never heals anyone in front of cameras. Just as many people have been healed by "Christ" or "Mary" as have been cured by placebo or faith in Allah or a meteor flying overhead. Just as meany have the same deformed, incapable or homosexual demographics that do not effect that propoganda.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Devil King
But he never does. He's found in burnt toast or a piss stain on an over pass, but he never heals anyone in front of cameras. Just as many people have been healed by "Christ" or "Mary" as have been cured by placebo or faith in Allah or a meteor flying overhead. Just as meany have the same deformed, incapable or homosexual demographics that do not effect that propoganda.

Reality isn't the issue of this thread.

Devil King
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Reality isn't the issue of this thread.

It is absolutely the issue, when someone passes off their reality as such for everyone else.

Da Pittman
Jesus got 23 write in votes in Florida eek! Hilary beat him out, guess she is more popular than Jesus laughing

234 HILARY CLINTON
174 RON PAUL
23 NONE OF THE ABOVE
23 JESUS
21 MIKE HUCKABEE
14 MITT ROMNEY
8 COLIN POWELL
6 GOD
6 LEFT BLANK
5 UNDECIDED
4 AL GORE
4 BISHOP V.M. MCLAUGHLEN
4 FRED THOMPSON
4 OBAMA
4 RUDY GIULLIANI
4 STEVEN COLBERT
3 DONALD DUCK
3 DONALD FOY
3 MICKEY MOUSE
3 T. BOONE PICKENS
2 BILL COSBY
2 BILL McMILLON
2 BILL NYE
2 CHUCK NORRIS
2 CONDOLEEZA RICE
2 FRANK HARDEN
2 FRANKLIN GRAHAM
2 LOU DOBBS
2 PAGO POSSUM
2 SARAH PALIN
2 SEANATOR BROWNBACK
2 GARY BENZENBERG
2 GEORGE W BUSH
2 JOHN EDWARDS
2 LEE GODDARD
2 TIM TEBOW

Symmetric Chaos
But he is more popular than Obama hmm

Hewhoknowsall
Seriously, if Jesus were to run, he won win...BY A LOT.

All Christians would vote for him (duh) and in a recent poll 70% of the world is that religion.
Most Muslims would vote for him (they consider Jesus to be a great prophet)
Most Jews would vote for him.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But he is more popular than Obama hmm True, and that guy is President of the US. So is Bush, who Jesus is more popular than, too.

And also The Seanator Brownback


And dude, not even 35% of Earth's population is Christian. What are you smoking.

Da Pittman
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Seriously, if Jesus were to run, he won win...BY A LOT.

All Christians would vote for him (duh) and in a recent poll 70% of the world is that religion.
Most Muslims would vote for him (they consider Jesus to be a great prophet)
Most Jews would vote for him. laughing Where did you get that number messed

And Jesus beat out God laughing

Deja~vu
Originally posted by Da Pittman
laughing Where did you get that number messed

And Jesus beat out God laughing After Jesus would say he was Jesus, they'd medicate him. Soooooooooo, god would win.

Bada's Palin
We'd nail that son of a b1tch to the cross once again.

Gannon
John 18:36 "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."

AngryManatee
Originally posted by Devil King
But he never does. He's found in burnt toast ...

Jews getting burned?

Devil King
Originally posted by AngryManatee
Jews getting burned?

Nut jobs who take a picture of a cloud after a tornado and say it's the image of Jesus saving them, while every one else around them has lost everything they have in the world.

Grand-Moff-Gav
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Seriously, if Jesus were to run, he won win...BY A LOT.

All Christians would vote for him (duh) and in a recent poll 70% of the world is that religion.
Most Muslims would vote for him (they consider Jesus to be a great prophet)
Most Jews would vote for him.

I think allot of democrats might vote for him too...

Devil King
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I think a lot of democrats might vote for him too...

Sure, as long as he ran as a Democrat.

Da Pittman
http://www.jesusforpresident.org laughing

http://www.bagofnothing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/jesuspres08.jpg

Jack Daniels
never thought about writing in Jesus...hmmm...lol

Hewhoknowsall
Originally posted by Bardock42
True, and that guy is President of the US. So is Bush, who Jesus is more popular than, too.

And also The Seanator Brownback


And dude, not even 35% of Earth's population is Christian. What are you smoking.

In a recent poll, 70% percent of the USA (not world) is Christian. Why else do you think Christmas, Easter, etc are all such big holidays? And I don't smoke smokin' no

Devil King
Originally posted by Jack Daniels
never thought about writing in Jesus...hmmm...lol

Maybe it's because you're not as silly as some of those people.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
In a recent poll, 70% percent of the USA (not world) is Christian. Why else do you think Christmas, Easter, etc are all such big holidays?

Where is that 70% of Americans on your average Sunday afternoon?

Hewhoknowsall
a quote from wikipedia:

"The largest religion in the US is Christianity, practiced by the majority of the population (nearly 76.5% in 2001). Roughly 51.3% of Americans are Protestants, 23.9% are Catholics, and 1.7% are Mormons (the name commonly used to refer to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), and 1.6% to various other Christian denominations. Christianity was introduced during the period of European colonization."

Bardock42
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
a quote from wikipedia:

"The largest religion in the US is Christianity, practiced by the majority of the population (nearly 76.5% in 2001). Roughly 51.3% of Americans are Protestants, 23.9% are Catholics, and 1.7% are Mormons (the name commonly used to refer to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), and 1.6% to various other Christian denominations. Christianity was introduced during the period of European colonization."

Key word: "US". You said "world". So I corrected you.

Da Pittman
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
a quote from wikipedia:

"The largest religion in the US is Christianity, practiced by the majority of the population (nearly 76.5% in 2001). Roughly 51.3% of Americans are Protestants, 23.9% are Catholics, and 1.7% are Mormons (the name commonly used to refer to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), and 1.6% to various other Christian denominations. Christianity was introduced during the period of European colonization." Wiki is not a real reliable source for info, you should us http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html And as Bardock said you claimed that world and not the US.

Deja~vu
Originally posted by Gannon
John 18:36 "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." You DO know that he is not talking about Heaven, right?

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
a quote from wikipedia:

"The largest religion in the US is Christianity, practiced by the majority of the population (nearly 76.5% in 2001). Roughly 51.3% of Americans are Protestants, 23.9% are Catholics, and 1.7% are Mormons (the name commonly used to refer to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), and 1.6% to various other Christian denominations. Christianity was introduced during the period of European colonization."

That's in the US not in the world.

Devil King
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
a quote from wikipedia:

"The largest religion in the US is Christianity, practiced by the majority of the population (nearly 76.5% in 2001). Roughly 51.3% of Americans are Protestants, 23.9% are Catholics, and 1.7% are Mormons (the name commonly used to refer to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), and 1.6% to various other Christian denominations. Christianity was introduced during the period of European colonization."

Again, where is that 70% of americans on your average Sunday afternoon?

Grand-Moff-Gav
Originally posted by Devil King
Again, where is that 70% of americans on your average Sunday afternoon?

Question is, who would they ally with come crunch time?

Devil King
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Question is, who would they ally with come crunch time?

But, see, when being asked about their religious persuasion, it is crunch time. 70% of Americans claim some allegience to Christianity when asked, but when it comes time to practice it, they're sadly lacking. Most people aren't in line for communion or to help the poor or to donate their tithe to the community chest. They call themselves Christians when asked, but do not one damned thing to practice it. In this country, and in polls, allegience to one over the next is as easy as answering a question. This is all a matter of what one says versus what they actually do. How to make a real world correlation? Most americans are opposed to bailing out the Auto Industry, but would absolutely be willing to accept a million dollar hand out from the federal government for themselves. This is what I hear when I talk to my friends. Saying you're a christian in America is as normal and patriotic as saying you love America. But, most people don't do shit to defend this country, other than going shopping after the 9/11 attacks.

Quincy Jones
Originally posted by Robtard
That video ignores the fact that Jesus was a total badass in-line with Republican ideals. He approved of his followers carrying swords (the gun of the time) and he wasn't a peaceful liberal either, as he threatened the Jew money-lenders by shaking a whip at them once and knocked over a few tables.


Actually, after Peter had cut off the ear of one of the guards that came to arrest Jesus, Jesus scolded him and said,"He who lives by the sword dies by the sword"

Just shows that you aetheists make really upsurd accusations and insults that no doubt would have to be answered for.

Devil King
What a load of shit. I've met my fair share of "christians" who live by the sword every day of their absurd, willfully ignorant lives.

Quincy Jones
Originally posted by Devil King
What a load of shit. I've met my fair share of "christians" who live by the sword every day of their absurd, willfully ignorant lives.


Put your deluded thoughts aside for just a second and understand that Jesus Christ IS the Prince of Peace.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Quincy Jones
Put your deluded thoughts aside for just a second and understand that Jesus Christ IS the Prince of Peace.

THIS IS JUST A STATEMENT.

Understand that statements don't prove anything. I can repeat five hundred times that "The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter". It doesn't make it true. It has just as much bearing as your claim for Jesus being the "Prince of Peace"...more even, since none of the words are ill defined concepts.

But lets put it to the test:


"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"
"The Fonz IS a mutated tomato from Jupiter"



Nope, still nonsense I just made up. I admit, you got it going for you that the nonsense you spout has been made up 2000 years ago, but, really, those people used their hands to wipe their asses and lived in huts made of cow dung...why exactly are they supposed to be more of an authority than anyone that lives today! Don't mind it, it's a rhetorical question.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Quincy Jones
Put your deluded thoughts aside for just a second and understand that Jesus Christ IS the Prince of Peace.

But the idea that Jesus is the Prince of Peace is a delusion in its self.

King of Blades
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I would vote for him.

Buddha can be Vice President. Mohammed can be Secretary of State. Krishna can be Foreign policy administrator.
droolio

Hewhoknowsall
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That's in the US not in the world.

The world doesn't vote for president. US citizens do.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
The world doesn't vote for president. US citizens do. Be that as it may you clearly said that 70% of the worlds population is Christian. It's a minor slip, really, just admit an error and move on.

Da Pittman
Originally posted by Quincy Jones
Just shows that you aetheists make really upsurd accusations and insults that no doubt would have to be answered for. laughing Atheist do not have the market cornered on this, shall I bring up Jerry Falwell wink

Lycanthrope
Originally posted by Quincy Jones
Put your deluded thoughts aside for just a second and understand that Jesus Christ IS the Prince of Peace.

I feel compelled to back Quincy Jones, if the forum will indulge me

Mathew
5:7 "Blessed are the MERCIFUL, for they will obtain mercy.

5:9 "Blessed are the PEACE-MAKERS, for they will be called children of God"

5:38-45

"You have heard it said (OLD Testament , Eye for an Eye and Tooth for a tooth)
But I say unto you DO NOT RESIST EVIL, but that who ever shall smite the on their right cheek turn to him to present the other also

,and if a man takes your coat, let him have your cloak also.
Give to him that ask of the and to him that borrow turn him not away,

You have heard that its been said(Old Testament ,Though shall love they neighbor and hate thine enemy)

But I say LOVE YOUR ENEMY,BLESS them that CURSE you,DO GOOD TO THEM THAT HATE YOU, PRAY FOR THEM THAT DISPITEFULLY USE YOU"


So any Christian that lives "By the sword" as NO Christian.

Da Pittman
Originally posted by Lycanthrope
I feel compelled to back Quincy Jones, if the forum will indulge me

Mathew
5:7 "Blessed are the MERCIFUL, for they will obtain mercy.

5:9 "Blessed are the PEACE-MAKERS, for they will be called children of God"

5:38-45

"You have heard it said (OLD Testament , Eye for an Eye and Tooth for a tooth)
But I say unto you DO NOT RESIST EVIL, but that who ever shall smite the on their right cheek turn to him to present the other also

,and if a man takes your coat, let him have your cloak also.
Give to him that ask of the and to him that borrow turn him not away,

You have heard that its been said(Old Testament ,Though shall love they neighbor and hate thine enemy)

But I say LOVE YOUR ENEMY,BLESS them that CURSE you,DO GOOD TO THEM THAT HATE YOU, PRAY FOR THEM THAT DISPITEFULLY USE YOU"


So any Christian that lives "By the sword" as NO Christian. However if you go by the idea that Jesus is part of God and God is all about the violence so how can he be the Prince of Peace if he is also God?

Lycanthrope
Originally posted by Da Pittman
However if you go by the idea that Jesus is part of God and God is all about the violence so how can he be the Prince of Peace if he is also God?

Its all about the context, if I'm understanding your question. At the time of the old Testament The people who were followers of Yah-Weh (God) were very small in numbers, surrounded geographically and were sought out by everyone to be destroyed ( I know saying "everyone" is a general statement but i could provide a list, if you wish, of the Nations ). In that context, In order for Gods people to survive they had to fight. and they had to survive the lineage in order for the Messiah to be. This is part of the validation by Prophecy.

Now the Eye for an Eye thing is misconstrued as vengeance but what He was Talking about is "Equal Justice" to quell "You killed my son so i will Kill your son AND Father"

Da Pittman
Originally posted by Lycanthrope
Its all about the context, if I'm understanding your question. At the time of the old Testament The people who were followers of Yah-Weh (God) were very small in numbers, surrounded geographically and were sought out by everyone to be destroyed ( I know saying "everyone" is a general statement but i could provide a list, if you wish, of the Nations ). In that context, In order for Gods people to survive they had to fight. and they had to survive the lineage in order for the Messiah to be. This is part of the validation by Prophecy.

Now the Eye for an Eye thing is misconstrued as vengeance but what He was Talking about is "Equal Justice" to quell "You killed my son so i will Kill your son AND Father" Well not what I was talking about but another good point. If these were the followers of God and Peace why would they need to fight? While I understand that they needed to fight because they would be wiped off the face of the planet but if they were "true" followers of peace they wouldn't need too and God should have protected its followers leading the example of peace that he "supposed" to preach.

Lycanthrope
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Well not what I was talking about but another good point. If these were the followers of God and Peace why would they need to fight? While I understand that they needed to fight because they would be wiped off the face of the planet but if they were "true" followers of peace they wouldn't need too and God should have protected its followers leading the example of peace that he "supposed" to preach.

You are opening a huge can of worms.Major Theological debate. If God wanted too he could end all War, All famine and make us believe and we would live in a utopia, it comes back to Free will. It was all to lead up to Christ. Once the world had been left on its own "Free Will" it was shown how man would try and destroy himself knowing Good and Evil, that man could not redeem himself . The Old Testament is a preface to the main body of the Story "Christ" The redeemer

Da Pittman
Originally posted by Lycanthrope
You are opening a huge can of worms.Major Theological debate. If God wanted too he could end all War, All famine and make us believe and we would live in a utopia, it comes back to Free will. It was all to lead up to Christ. Once the world had been left on its own "Free Will" it was shown how man would try and destroy himself knowing Good and Evil, that man could not redeem himself . The Old Testament is a preface to the main body of the Story "Christ" The redeemer That is a different debate all together, but what I was saying is that if God and/or Jesus preaches love and forgiveness then why would his followers need to take up arms at all, wouldn't it make scene that they would die for their ideals? Wouldn't the spread of peace and love be stronger than hate and violence? There are so many biblical passage referring to the wraith of God and punishment of the wicked for God to be considered the embodiment of peace and love and very little of forgiveness. God doesn't have anything to do with infringing on the free will of his followers by protecting them from harm while following his word.

Lycanthrope
Originally posted by Da Pittman
That is a different debate all together, but what I was saying is that if God and/or Jesus preaches love and forgiveness then why would his followers need to take up arms at all, wouldn't it make scene that they would die for their ideals? Wouldn't the spread of peace and love be stronger than hate and violence? There are so many biblical passage referring to the wraith of God and punishment of the wicked for God to be considered the embodiment of peace and love and very little of forgiveness. God doesn't have anything to do with infringing on the free will of his followers by protecting them from harm while following his word.

It is not a different debate.You are missing the point. All the "Wrath of God" stuff is old Testament.
And if The original Israelites were told to love they neighbor they would have been consumed and be no more. Old Testament is all about War and fighting in order for the Israelites to Be in existence. It goes back to Abraham being the only one who understood and had faith in God. Abraham was from Babylon and told to leave and start the Hebrew nation. Well the surrounding tribes did not like the incursion. So there was a necessity for the violence because the World was Violent because of Sin, but God promised to protect them because they believed. There is nothing in the NEW Testament ,which is where Christ comes in Which is where "Christians" come in , that talks about wrath of God and destruction hence my saying if you claim to be Christian and "live by the sword" your not Christian. You are taking things out of context and you don't have a clear understanding of the Bible which is fine i am not faulting you for that but i cant answer your questions if you have no understanding of the context. This is why i was trying to explain things that you said had no relevance.

Da Pittman
Originally posted by Lycanthrope
It is not a different debate.You are missing the point. All the "Wrath of God" stuff is old Testament.
And if The original Israelites were told to love they neighbor they would have been consumed and be no more. Old Testament is all about War and fighting in order for the Israelites to Be in existence. It goes back to Abraham being the only one who understood and had faith in God. Abraham was from Babylon and told to leave and start the Hebrew nation. Well the surrounding tribes did not like the incursion. So there was a necessity for the violence because the World was Violent because of Sin, but God promised to protect them because they believed. There is nothing in the NEW Testament ,which is where Christ comes in Which is where "Christians" come in , that talks about wrath of God and destruction hence my saying if you claim to be Christian and "live by the sword" your not Christian. You are taking things out of context and you don't have a clear understanding of the Bible which is fine i am not faulting you for that but i cant answer your questions if you have no understanding of the context. This is why i was trying to explain things that you said had no relevance. The free will thing is a different debate. What I'm talking about is that God and Jesus are supposed to be the same person, the trinity thing. God from the old and new testament are still the same, one book is more feel good and the other is not but they are still the same god unless you are saying that either they are not the trinity or that the new testament is not talking about the god of the old testament.

inimalist
so God being evil is contextual, but God being good is non-contextual?

Da Pittman
Originally posted by inimalist
so God being evil is contextual, but God being good is non-contextual? Is that directed at me?

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Da Pittman
The free will thing is a different debate. What I'm talking about is that God and Jesus are supposed to be the same person, the trinity thing. God from the old and new testament are still the same, one book is more feel good and the other is not but they are still the same god unless you are saying that either they are not the trinity or that the new testament is not talking about the god of the old testament.

Just because they're talking about the same person doesn't mean that his approach can't change. Surely you haven't been the same for your entire life. There's also the obvious fact that the message that Christ sent is meant to be different from the wrath and punishment angle of the old testament, it takes a stretch to ignore a new message just because the old one is more convenient for you.

inimalist
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Is that directed at me?

not really at anyone in particular

If your argument is that God does all of the good things in the bible because he is good and all of the bad things because of contextual reasons, then my statement is directed at you.

Da Pittman
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Just because they're talking about the same person doesn't mean that his approach can't change. Surely you haven't been the same for your entire life. There's also the obvious fact that the message that Christ sent is meant to be different from the wrath and punishment angle of the old testament, it takes a stretch to ignore a new message just because the old one is more convenient for you. That his methods or views may have changed is not what I'm talking about but that the statement that Jesus is the Prince of Peace when that God has shown violence and Jesus is supposed to be God according to the trinity.Originally posted by inimalist
not really at anyone in particular

If your argument is that God does all of the good things in the bible because he is good and all of the bad things because of contextual reasons, then my statement is directed at you. No I'm more talking about the people that say that Jesus is the Prince of Peace and has never done or shown violent behavior, if he is a part of God or is God then he has done violent and vengeful things.

inimalist
Originally posted by Da Pittman
No I'm more talking about the people that say that Jesus is the Prince of Peace and has never done or shown violent behavior, if he is a part of God or is God then he has done violent and vengeful things.

fair enough, I'm more talking about the cognitive bias to explain behaviour that is good (to the observer) as being motivated internally by a characteristic of the behaving individual, whereas bad behaviour is explained through external motivations (something made this good person do bad).

Looking for contextual reasons to explain Jesus'/God's negative behaviour necessitates one do the same for his good behaviour, yet there do not exist these tongue in cheek explanations of how God's benevolent behaviour is not contridictatory to his negative statements.

its a roundabout way of accusing people of cherry picking to reach their personal conclusions.

Da Pittman
Originally posted by inimalist
fair enough, I'm more talking about the cognitive bias to explain behaviour that is good (to the observer) as being motivated internally by a characteristic of the behaving individual, whereas bad behaviour is explained through external motivations (something made this good person do bad).

Looking for contextual reasons to explain Jesus'/God's negative behaviour necessitates one do the same for his good behaviour, yet there do not exist these tongue in cheek explanations of how God's benevolent behaviour is not contridictatory to his negative statements.

its a roundabout way of accusing people of cherry picking to reach their personal conclusions. You said cherry stick out tongue

inimalist
lol

"cherry picked" will never mean the same thing to me again

Shakyamunison
I would not vote for him. Too much of a religious fanatic.

Da Pittman
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I would not vote for him. Too much of a religious fanatic. He would take away my porz so no vote from me evil face

Symmetric Chaos
Too libtarded!

YodaIam
He would be the next Obama, instead of voting for him because hes black it would have to be because hes the son of God.

Everyone wants a first these days.

Symmetric Chaos
Someone doesn't remember Regan.

YodaIam
Someone wasn't alive for Regan.

Unfortently.

At least the guy still secretly works in a toy shop.

Wild Shadow
we would have a smear campaign against him with sex tapes and or innuendo between mary magdelyne

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Da Pittman
He would take away my porz so no vote from me evil face

confused What is a porz?

Da Pittman
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
confused What is a porz? You silly goose stick out tongue

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Da Pittman
You silly goose stick out tongue

The "z" and the "n" are 6 characters apart. stick out tongue

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