PC superman(sundipped) vs Thanos w/space/power gem

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Nihilist
inspired by the great galaen

who wins?

guy222
thanos

Zack Fair
Did PC Supes ever show the ability to sundip?

Me thinks not.

Besides Thanos, unlike most of the characters given the gems in this forum, knows how to utilize them.

He pawns.

WrathfulDwarf
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Did PC Supes ever show the ability to sundip?

Me thinks not.

Besides Thanos, unlike most of the characters given the gems in this forum, knows how to utilize them.

He pawns.

PC Supes is just...well, too damn powerful.

http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pctr7.jpg

Stop making PC Superman threads....he's going to own anyone. wink

Zack Fair
I was thinking about that too. Just how are we supposed to gauge PC Supes increase in power if the sundip worked the same way as current Supes'? I mean Current Supes goes from his regular high-herald level to almost PC level. Just how powerful would PC Supes become?

Meh I rather not speculate about it since he never showed that ability.

UKR
Depending on the era pre crisis Superman wasn't that infinite, from what I hear. AFAIK the Superman of the mid 1980s needed a great deal of effort to move a planet, so he was likely not beyond herald level. Maybe not even as powerful as Gladiator? Regular Superman wasn't that much more powerful with sun dip, he still strained to move the Earth even with help from WW and MM. If this is Superman from just before or during "Crisis" then maybe Thanos can win this one. If he has prep then Superman is definitely toast.

Zack Fair
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Stoic
Originally posted by UKR
Depending on the era pre crisis Superman wasn't that infinite, from what I hear. AFAIK the Superman of the mid 1980s needed a great deal of effort to move a planet, so he was likely not beyond herald level. Maybe not even as powerful as Gladiator? Regular Superman wasn't that much more powerful with sun dip, he still strained to move the Earth even with help from WW and MM. If this is Superman from just before or during "Crisis" then maybe Thanos can win this one. If he has prep then Superman is definitely toast.


Are you kidding me? Thanos with the power gem could stack planets up one by one and pop them like balloons, and with the space gem he would always be 10 steps ahead of Superman PC or otherwise.

Harbinger
Spite.

Juntai
Originally posted by UKR
Depending on the era pre crisis Superman wasn't that infinite, from what I hear. AFAIK the Superman of the mid 1980s needed a great deal of effort to move a planet, so he was likely not beyond herald level. Maybe not even as powerful as Gladiator? Regular Superman wasn't that much more powerful with sun dip, he still strained to move the Earth even with help from WW and MM. If this is Superman from just before or during "Crisis" then maybe Thanos can win this one. If he has prep then Superman is definitely toast. What are you talking about?

Lord Feron
Originally posted by Zack Fair


Besides Thanos, unlike most of the characters given the gems in this forum, knows how to utilize them.

He pawns.

Galan007
Originally posted by Juntai
What are you talking about? I highly doubt he even knows...

Anyhow, Supes ftw.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Thanos with the greatest of ease

ultimatethor
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Thanos with the greatest of ease

Zack Fair
Originally posted by Galan007
I highly doubt he even knows...


I concur.

By the looks of it he thinks sundipped Supes is good ole regular Supes.

ROFL anyone?

tdazz
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Thanos with the greatest of ease


QFT.

Enyalus
I don't recall PC Supes being able to sundip. I don't think his powers worked that way back then. Superman: Birthright rewrote the way his powers worked, right?


Regardless, sundipped or not, Thanos wins this match easily. Infinite strength and infinite speed, plus invulnerability.

The Pict
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
PC Supes is just...well, too damn powerful.

http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pctr7.jpg

Stop making PC Superman threads....he's going to own anyone. wink

thumb up

xJLxKing
Pc Sueprman is a beast. This is the guy who went straight to Heaven to fight to ge Louis back. The Archangle Micheal himself had to come and stop Superman. This is the guy that closes black holes with ease, this is the guy who moves planets(solarsystems) for fun. Any ways I can go on forever, however, even Superman can not defeat Thanos with Power Gem. Thanos becomes to strong

skyfather
thanos stomps

lol at people saying supes has a chance against someone who has access to all power and energy that ever has or will exist, and can back the other gems and boost their effects. and can duplicate almost any physical superhuman ability and become invincible and also someone who can exist in any location (or all locations), move any object anywhere throughout the universe and warp or rearrange space.

The Great Galen
A sundip boasted current supes stats from peak herald to near skyfather....PC supes with a SD would be interesting IMO.

zeel
Originally posted by The Great Galen
A sundip boasted current supes stats from peak herald to near skyfather....PC supes with a SD would be interesting IMO.


How many skyfather's have pc supes level of physical strength? this version of supes is by far physically more powerful then thanos but a over all win? He has the same damm weaknesses and thanos has basically no weaknesses. So long as thanos has a plan and dont jab with him its thanos all the way.

Enyalus
Um. No.

Thanos' strength and speed would be worlds beyond what PC Supes could muster.

iceman24567
Pc Supes already has Hulks infinite strength bull going how can Thanos be leagues above somebody that had I of the best strength and speed showings ever?

Enyalus
Originally posted by iceman24567
Pc Supes already has Hulks infinite strength bull going how can Thanos be leagues above somebody that had I of the best strength and speed showings ever?

Infinite strength when? He gets swatted by Darkseid like a fly. That's not infinite. Thanos with the PG though, is.

Juntai
Originally posted by Enyalus
Infinite strength when? He gets swatted by Darkseid like a fly. That's not infinite. Thanos with the PG though, is. In hyperbole only, lets see some feats of a power gem wielder comparable to PC Superman.

kgkg
Originally posted by Juntai
In hyperbole only, lets see some feats of a power gem wielder comparable to PC Superman. The best we have seen from Power Gem is with

Madness Thor with PG he was going to be a universal problem and his power was growing very rapidly.( as noted by Thanos and Eternity)

But on average most nubs can't utilize it's power

But the gems power are limitless in marvel since you just need a wielder who can utilize it's power.

iceman24567
Originally posted by Juntai
In hyperbole only, lets see some feats of a power gem wielder comparable to PC Superman. There are none he just wants to ignore the insane pc feats like Superman moving planets with little effort or Superman closing a boomtube with his bear hands. Superman also has a sun dip amp here is strength during pc days we actually saw Superman's strength with no limit and he was also fast enough to break the time barrier his feats dwarf what the power gem has done on panel I'm getting sick of the power gem wanking.

Juntai
The fact Thanos has two gems would be his saving grace if anything here, the power gem alone probably wouldn't cut it.

iceman24567
Originally posted by Juntai
The fact Thanos has two gems would be his saving grace if anything here, the power gem alone probably wouldn't cut it. True the power gem can't beat Superman here the space gem might.

xJLxKing
I am pretty sure that Thanos can utilize the Power Gem. In fact he doesnt have to know how to utilize it completly just average, and it will be good enought to take on Superman.

Enyalus
Originally posted by iceman24567
True the power gem can't beat Superman here the space gem might.

The Power Gem allowed Champion to walk right through Thanos' full powered energy blasts, with strength enough to one-shot a planet. And he didn't even know how to access its power. Thanos does. PG Thanos would still beat PC Supes, though it'd be a helluva lot closer. With two gems, Thanos stomps.

iceman24567
Originally posted by Enyalus
The Power Gem allowed Champion to walk right through Thanos' full powered energy blasts, with strength enough to one-shot a planet. And he didn't even know how to access its power. Thanos does. PG Thanos would still beat PC Supes, though it'd be a helluva lot closer. With two gems, Thanos stomps. Right because we have seen Thanos with the power gem outshine pc Supe sike Thanos with the power gem gets ripped apart by pc Supes his feats are way better.

Enyalus
Originally posted by iceman24567
Right because we have seen Thanos with the power gem outshine pc Supe sike Thanos with the power gem gets ripped apart by pc Supes his feats are way better.

You're wrong...I'll get scans up soon.

iceman24567
Originally posted by Enyalus
You're wrong...I'll get scans up soon. Nah you are the wrong one you really can't sit there and try to prove that the power gem > Pc Superman it isn't possible this version of Superman trumps the powergem.

Enyalus
Originally posted by iceman24567
Right because we have seen Thanos with the power gem outshine pc Supe sike Thanos with the power gem gets ripped apart by pc Supes his feats are way better.

Okay...this is the only time in which Thanos uses the Power Gem by itself. Proof of this:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-09.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-10.jpg

Thanos unfreezes time. He's still adjusting to limiting himself, and so gets ambushed. Nevertheless, he blasts Drax away like nothing and the narrator claims they are 'bothersome fleas:'

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-11.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-12.jpg

Thanos isn't even bothering to defend himself from Hulk's shots. Doesn't need to. He's invulnerable. And hey - shows off a neat trick - the ability to grow to enormous size:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-13.jpg
(Note the durability when he's taking Vision's blast)

Another neat trick - Thanos trapping Namor and She-Hulk in somekind of rust/fungus/whatever:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-14.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-15.jpg

Gets hit by Mjolnir unexpectedly. Back up nearly instantly after blowing Doom the hell off of him, and looking Super Saiyan:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-16.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-17.jpg

More neat tricks by Thanos' Power Gem? Teleportation portals, tossing Thor aside like a baby and swatting Firelord like a fly, then turning Wolverine's adamantium skeleton into rubber:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-18.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-20.jpg
3. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-21.jpg
4. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-22.jpg

Unphased by Cyclopes' optic blasts and easily overpowers Scarlet Witch:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-23.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-24.jpg

Force-blocks and kills Cyclopes before tearing open Vision:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-25.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-27.jpg

Cloak attempts to trap him in the Dark Dimension, and cannot. He's also laughing off a blast by Drax and apparently thinks Firelord attempting to choke him is humorous:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-28.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-29.jpg

Opens up a time portal and BFR's Firelord and Drax to the prehistoric age:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-32.jpg

Even more exotic stuff - looks like he's getting a beatdown. Then again, he recovers quickly and seems just fine. Then proceeds to turn Thor into glass and Nova into a bunch of blocks.

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-33.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-34.jpg
3. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-35.jpg

Shatters Thor, annihilates Quasar and reduces him to ash, transmutes the floor to grab ahold of Captain America's legs, then smashes his shield into pieces with one blow.

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-36.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-38.jpg
3. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-41.jpg

Again...all of that was with solely the Power Gem. After nearly having it taken by SS, he wills himself back:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-44.jpg


As you know, the Power Gem backs the other gems and amplifies their power, too. Meaning with the Space Gem added to it...

Anywho, he beats PC Supes with just the PG or the PG and SG.

iceman24567
Pc Supermans feats are way better you still did not prove me wrong in anyway do I really have to post Pc Supermans feats? They trump the power gem alone.

klintypooh
Originally posted by iceman24567
There are none he just wants to ignore the insane pc feats like Superman moving planets with little effort or Superman closing a boomtube with his bear hands . Superman also has a sun dip amp here is strength during pc days we actually saw Superman's strength with no limit and he was also fast enough to break the time barrier his feats dwarf what the power gem has done on panel I'm getting sick of the power gem wanking.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/klintlovescheesecake/bearhands.jpg

??

Enyalus
Not really. Thanos has infinite speed with the Power Gem backing the Space Gem. So he doesn't get tagged by Supes. Then he decides to turn him into glass and shatter him. Or turn his insides into rubber. Or teleport him into the core of a red giant star.


Soooo many ways for Thanos to destroy Supes. With casual ease.

iceman24567
Wow good way to ignore my posts.

Enyalus
Originally posted by iceman24567
Wow good way to ignore my posts.

Moi?

iceman24567
Originally posted by Enyalus
Moi? Yes you we were debating the abilities of the power gem against pc Supes then you switched it up plus how does Thanos know Supermans weakness? Don't say telepathy. Like I said Pc Supes > the power gem.

Enyalus
Originally posted by iceman24567
Yes you we were debating the abilities of the power gem against pc Supes then you switched it up plus how does Thanos know Supermans weakness? Don't say telepathy. Like I said Pc Supes > the power gem.

Falls under the standard knowledge category. Fact is, Superman can't do anything to Thanos, while Thanos on the other hand can do plenty. Could open up a teleportation portal to the end of time and have PC Supes killed by Entropy, since that's so uber in DC. It'd be nice irony.

iceman24567
You do know super can break the time barrier at will I doubt bfring him in time will beat him like Thanos beat those chumps. You are wrong again the power gem isn't that great at all Superman would eat Thanos alive with the power gem it just isn't enough.

cloud102
In a comic, Superman wins, of course. On paper? It's probably a stalemate.

Enyalus
Originally posted by iceman24567
You do know super can break the time barrier at will I doubt bfring him in time will beat him like Thanos beat those chumps. You are wrong again the power gem isn't that great at all Superman would eat Thanos alive with the power gem it just isn't enough.

This is ridiculous. Anyone giving Supes the win or stalemate is a total fanboy. He has no chance.

Start of the fight, Thanos grows twenty times Superman's size and manipulates the floor into holding Superman still. He releases a huge energy blast which KOs Superman. Then he turns him into a six inch plastic action figure, opens up a time portal and tosses him into a prehistoric volcano for the win.

All of that just with the power gem alone. With the space gem added to it, it's an even worse stomp. Hell, Thanos busted Cap's vibranium shield - designed to absorb energy. One punch would tear Kal's head off. He also transformed Wolverine's skeleton from adamantium into rubber. So there you go, Thanos transforms Supes' skeleton into Kryptonite for the kill. Thanos with the PG is on a whole 'nother level from Champion or Titania with it.

Galan007
Has Thanos ever shown the ability to utilize the gem in such a way?

Juntai
Superman has always been notorius for shrugging off reality manipulation moves to his person. He wills himself out.
The floor isnt going to hold Superman.
Sending him through time does nothing.
And a volcano won't do anything to him either.

There goes that idea.

What happens to Thanos when Superman uses 'super hypnotism' on him and makes him forget to use the gems power?

Decimus
No offense Enyalus but Thanos has no feats with the power gem that could stand up to Precrisis Superman's high end showings. I mean the Specter had to come out and stop Superman from searching the universe for Supergirl. Quite simply, if left unchecked Superman would apparently have destroyed reality at unimaginable speeds.

Galan007
Originally posted by Juntai
What happens to Thanos when Superman uses 'super hypnotism' on him and makes him forget to use the gems power? Then uses a 'super-push' to send Thanos hurling through the timestream. lol, PC feats were insane.

iceman24567
Originally posted by Juntai
Superman has always been notorius for shrugging off reality manipulation moves to his person. He wills himself out.
The floor isnt going to hold Superman.
Sending him through time does nothing.
And a volcano won't do anything to him either.

There goes that idea.

What happens to Thanos when Superman uses 'super hypnotism' on him and makes him forget to use the gems power? Trust me its pointless I tried explaining to him that pc Superman is leagues above the power gem he doesnt care anybody that believes Superman can bfred in time is a fanboy he breaks the the time barrier and almost any barrier easily. The man shrugs off blasts that can destroy earth no easy win for Thanos here. Pc Superman > the power gem the space gem is his best bet.

Juntai
Originally posted by iceman24567
Trust me its pointless I tried explaining to him that pc Superman is leagues above the power gem he doesnt care anybody that believes Superman can bfred in time is a fanboy he breaks the the time barrier and almost any barrier easily. The man shrugs off blasts that can destroy earth no easy win for Thanos here. Pc Superman > the power gem the space gem is his best bet. As I said;
Originally posted by Juntai
The fact Thanos has two gems would be his saving grace if anything here, the power gem alone probably wouldn't cut it.

Can Thanos win here? Sure.
Is he guaranteed victory w/ just the power gem? Nope.

Galan007
Originally posted by Juntai
Can Thanos win here? Sure.
Is he guaranteed victory w/ just the power gem? Nope. I agree. imo, this battle is certainly not as clear-cut as some are making it out to be.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by Juntai
Superman has always been notorius for shrugging off reality manipulation moves to his person. He wills himself out.
The floor isnt going to hold Superman.
Sending him through time does nothing.
And a volcano won't do anything to him either.

There goes that idea.

What happens to Thanos when Superman uses 'super hypnotism' on him and makes him forget to use the gems power?

HaHaHa Super Hynotism on Thanos lol. Thanks for the laugh Juntai that was a good one. At regular levels Supes couldn't hang with Thanos as his feats far surpass supes in the TK field. Will power you guys are claimnig lol. Again at regular levels IMO Thanos will power is stronger or equal to Supes. So, you add the power gem and it's game over. So, what exactly is PC Supes going to do Thanos? Are you guys slow... He's invulnerable to any physical harm. Thanos would just laugh at whatever super tried to do. The difference is Superman ISN'T invulnerable and was KO'd plenty of times in his PC Days. Oooo and yes Galan there were scans just posted that prove he can manipulate such things as Enaylus describe. Fact, is with the power gem it's already game over and you had the space gem hahaha lol it's a horrific stomp. So, Galan are you claiming superman would be victorious over Thanos with the PG nevermind the SG as I hope you wouldn't claim that even? If Thanos just gets the PG and the fight starts supes wins for awhile until Thanos grows enough in power. If he has the gem and has had it for awhile HAHHAHAHA Supes would be like a flea and be one-shotted.

iceman24567
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
HaHaHa Super Hynotism on Thanos lol. Thanks for the laugh Juntai that was a good one. At regular levels Supes couldn't hang with Thanos as his feats far surpass supes in the TK field. Will power you guys are claimnig lol. Again at regular levels IMO Thanos will power is stronger or equal to Supes. So, you add the power gem and it's game over. So, what exactly is PC Supes going to do Thanos? Are you guys slow... He's invulnerable to any physical harm. Thanos would just laugh at whatever super tried to do. The difference is Superman ISN'T invulnerable and was KO'd plenty of times in his PC Days. Oooo and yes Galan there were scans just posted that prove he can manipulate such things as Enaylus describe. Fact, is with the power gem it's already game over and you had the space gem hahaha lol it's a horrific stomp. So, Galan are you claiming superman would be victorious over Thanos with the PG nevermind the SG as I hope you wouldn't claim that even? If Thanos just gets the PG and the fight starts supes wins for awhile until Thanos grows enough in power. If he has the gem and has had it for awhile HAHHAHAHA Supes would be like a flea and be one-shotted. Superman would sneeze Thanos into oblivion.

Nihilist
Originally posted by iceman24567
Superman would sneeze Thanos into oblivion. how??

w/the combined abilities of the space/power gem thanos can exist in any location (or all locations), move any object anywhere throughout the universe and warp or rearrange space.

KuRuPT Thanosi
^^^^ Don't even bother arguing with them man they are dellusional. HAHAH PC Supes beating Thanos with the PG let alone the SG.. I've heard it all now.

Juntai
Originally posted by Nihilist
how??

w/the combined abilities of the space/power gem thanos can exist in any location (or all locations), move any object anywhere throughout the universe and warp or rearrange space. The guy he quoted was talking about Thanos with only the PG.

The Great Galen
PC Supes FTW.

iceman24567
I don't see the power gem being enough to beat Superman the space gem might not sure how but its the deciding factor in this battle. The sneezing thing was me counter the really obnoxious post before it nothing more nothing less.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by Juntai
The guy he quoted was talking about Thanos with only the PG.

you never addressed my post but i suppose you wouldn't cause your side fails pretty miserably. PC Supes hurting or doing anything to Thanos with the PG lol haha. If he's had the Gem for some amount of time what exactly would happen buddy? I'll tell you Supes getting swatted away like a fly. PC Supes has been KO'd numerous times and you think he's going to beat somebody he can't be hurt and is more powerful lol. I love coming on here for the jokes.

Juntai
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
you never addressed my post but i suppose you wouldn't cause your side fails pretty miserably. PC Supes hurting or doing anything to Thanos with the PG lol haha. If he's had the Gem for some amount of time what exactly would happen buddy? I'll tell you Supes getting swatted away like a fly. PC Supes has been KO'd numerous times and you think he's going to beat somebody he can't be hurt and is more powerful lol. I love coming on here for the jokes. I don't reply to every raving idiot posting on the forum.

You want one though?

Thanos suffered a flash knockout from Thor in the scans posted a page ago. Enough for Doom to rush in and start trying to wrestle the glove from his hand. In fact, he was battered around quite a bit through that encounter.

None of those characters possess Superman's speed strength, or offensive output in general. Not one of them.

Superman starts to think he might be in trouble, when he gets hit with the force of a hundred galaxies.
http://bp1.blogger.com/_p1IO2se12VI/RnxMAp4pNVI/AAAAAAAAAN0/-Hn55MKDBKU/s1600-h/Magnardcu0.jpg

The Thanos side of the arguement?
Originally posted by Enyalus
One punch would tear Kal's head off.

Get real.

You want real humor?
Read your posts.

iceman24567
Obnoxious poster pwned by Juntai smile.

iceman24567
Originally posted by klintypooh
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/klintlovescheesecake/bearhands.jpg

?? lulz I do 90% of my posting on my Iphone it tries to guess what I want to type my bad for any spelling errors.

Mindset
wtf?

Enyalus
Originally posted by Galan007
Has Thanos ever shown the ability to utilize the gem in such a way?

Yes. All of what I've said has already been done. Linky link. (The hyperlink directly above)

Originally posted by Juntai
Superman has always been notorius for shrugging off reality manipulation moves to his person. He wills himself out.

Thanos used matter manipulation on those people. He turned Thor, a god, into glass and shattered him. He turned adamantium, hardest and most unbreakable substance in the MU into rubber. His energy blasts were so powerful they vaporized Quasar's Quantum Bands and melted his hands. Superman would be fare no better.



Sure it will. For a second or two.



Sure it would, especially when he's been turned into plastic, or shattered glass, or LEGO blocks.



Did you read my post at all? I said after he's turned into plastic. But that's okay, because even if Thanos doesn't want to do that, he can simply send him to the end of time and let Entropy eat him.



Right. Superman's mind suddenly is superior to Thanos'? Try again. Thanos' telepathy is worlds beyond what Superman would be able to counter.

Originally posted by Decimus
No offense Enyalus but Thanos has no feats with the power gem that could stand up to Precrisis Superman's high end showings. I mean the Specter had to come out and stop Superman from searching the universe for Supergirl. Quite simply, if left unchecked Superman would apparently have destroyed reality at unimaginable speeds.

Thanos used the Power Gem alone for half of one issue. PC Supes had a quarter of a century's worth of issues to develop his feats. We already know he can destroy planets with ease, considering he wasn't bothered by Celestials throwing them at him. And Champion one-shotted a planet. Thanos has far more control over the gem than he did - as evidenced by the scans I provided. He can do far worse. Like shattering vibranium. And the whole Superman/Supergirl thing, is a traveling speed feat. We don't count that in a battle. Not that it matters - because with the Space Gem Thanos can be anywhere and everywhere at once.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Superman would sneeze Thanos into oblivion.

He was amped for the solar system feat.

Originally posted by Juntai
The Thanos side of the arguement?


Get real.

You want real humor?
Read your posts.

Darkseid has physically dominated him before. As have plenty of others. Thanos with the PG is beyond them. Remember when Darkseid grabbed PC Supes by the throat without Supes even seeing him move? With the SG Thanos can easily duplicate that feat. Grabs him by the throat and reduces him to dust like so:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-38.jpg


It's an easy win for Thanos. With numerous ways for him to achieve it.

Juntai
Originally posted by iceman24567
Obnoxious poster pwned by Juntai smile. I however fully expect two things.

1) That I'll be reported and/or reprimanded.

2) That someone will attempt to come with some extremely low showings - verbally or perhaps a scan or two - that completely contradict the rule that characters fight at their optimum levels.

iceman24567
When your right your right this debate is no longer enjoyable I have to go play video games before I kill myself.

Juntai
Originally posted by Enyalus
Yes. All of what I've said has already been done.



Thanos used matter manipulation on those people. He turned Thor, a god, into glass and shattered him. He turned adamantium, hardest and most unbreakable substance in the MU into rubber. His energy blasts were so powerful they vaporized Quasar's Quantum Bands and melted his hands. Superman would be fare no better. That's not Superman. Matter transmutation, of even the magic kind, he has shrugged off, often with minor difficulties, even from skyfathers and higher. The only person who comes to mind that has truly achieved it an acknowledable extent, and not only was that post-crisis, but it was Azmodel as the host of the Spectre. If you want to try to compare Thanos to Spectre, be my guest and set up a thread.




No, it won't.



Covered already.



I read, I replied.

You mean, in the case that Superman suddenly forgot that he's a time traveler?



Untrue. Superman's willpower even the Guardians claimed to be the greatest in the universe. Before they realised his potential as Superman, they wanted him to lead their Green Lantern Corp as the greatest it would ever know.

Pre-Crisis Superman also showed the ability to backlash mental powers back at their user. I'll attempt to get the scan if I feel ambitious enough.


This wasn't a reply to me, but I'll take initiative and cover it anwyays. It doesn't count in close quarters sure, but his speed certainly counts overall. Getting from point A to point B is always a factor. I like how we're going back to leaning on the space gem in the debate now though, because we realise how much the power gem showings are failing next to Superman's, and how much he needs the space gem to contend here. Coming from the guy who said;
Originally posted by Enyalus

Anywho, he beats PC Supes with just the PG. lol.
Next?



Says who? He caught a cold via magic, because he's otherwise immune to cold and disease. Superman has feats blowing around giant stars and planets with his breath outside of that showing anyways, without effort. Try again.



lol. You see the scan I posted of that guy that hit Superman with the force of a hundred galaxies? He's a bug next to PC Darkseid.

That team wouldn't have even lasted that long against PC Darkseid.


Could be, I never said Superman wins. I've just been debating, and winning, which is clear from your debating methods. 1) The way I'm getting you to double back on debating points- for example; how you started saying he won't need the space gem, then going right back to using the space gem in your reply. Or for another example; how you said he'd kill Superman in one shot. And 2) Starting to wildly claim events and applications on Superman's character without proving said applications. Thanos having higher willpower, Thanos being able to do this or that.


Try to reply to this without wildly running off on tangents or doubling back on your aguements, because it's entirely true.
Originally posted by Juntai

Thanos suffered a flash knockout from Thor in the scans posted a page ago. Enough for Doom to rush in and start trying to wrestle the glove from his hand. In fact, he was battered around quite a bit through that encounter.

None of those characters possess Superman's speed strength, or offensive output in general. Not one of them.

Superman starts to think he might be in trouble, when he gets hit with the force of a hundred galaxies.
http://bp1.blogger.com/_p1IO2se12VI/RnxMAp4pNVI/AAAAAAAAAN0/-Hn55MKDBKU/s1600-h/Magnardcu0.jpg

Enyalus
Originally posted by Juntai
That's not Superman. Matter transmutation, of even the magic kind, he has shrugged off, often with minor difficulties, even from skyfathers and higher. The only person who comes to mind that has truly achieved it an acknowledable extent, and not only was that post-crisis, but it was Azmodel as the host of the Spectre. If you want to try to compare Thanos to Spectre, be my guest and set up a thread.

Dominus has achieved it as well, just off the top of my head. Anywho, show me some scans of him doing what you say, or at least give me the issue numbers. There's 25 years worth. There should be plenty there. Like I said, Thanos turned Thor - who is a god - into glass. Superman's 'willpower' has nothing to do with him being able to resist matter manipulation from Thanos. As shown, it is instanteous.



He's not coming back from Entropy. There's still the matter of Thanos simply depositing him inside of a red star or using a Force Block of Kryptonite.





This is how you "think" you're winning the debate? By intentionally misconstructing what I say? I said nothing about willpower, and it is completely irrelevant. I said telepathy. Two different things. Superman's 'super-hypnotism' would simply not work. Thanos' mind is too powerful. Not to mention that the 'hypnotism' thing is not willpower dependent.



Thanos' psychic backlash destroyed at least one forth of the galaxy Thanos was in, according to Galactus' computations...and it was still expanding when it hit Earth (at 2% of its original power.) So with the PG, Thanos' mind is capable of shattering galaxies.




He doesn't. But I see people saying that even with both gems PC Superman wins or stalemates. And that isn't true. With the SG, Thanos can be anywhere and everywhere at once. Superman's speed would not be a problem. And even though Thanos did not show it - because he didn't need to - with the PG alone he would have superspeed enough to compete favorably.



Yeah, via magic. A magic enpowerment. And busting entire galaxies by simply getting pissed off > blowing Earth out of its orbit.



Again, he's given it in this thread - why wouldn't I use it in my reply. I'm hearing idiotic statements about Supes winning even with Thanos using both gems. Trying to clear them up, as well as reply to you. Thanos uses the PG to turn Superman into an action figure keychain. The end. You say Superman can resist that, when no one else, not even gods, were able to. You need to prove it. You're not winning anything.



He would, if he wanted to. Same way he did to Quasar. Same as he did to whole galaxies and even at 2% power, caused title waves that were a quarter of a mile high and severe earthquakes.



Except you made the shit up about the willpower argument. I never once used it. And since he lacks a GL ring, it won't help him here anyway and is completely irrelevant. Nice try with the red herring though.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by Juntai
That's not Superman. Matter transmutation, of even the magic kind, he has shrugged off, often with minor difficulties, even from skyfathers and higher. The only person who comes to mind that has truly achieved it an acknowledable extent, and not only was that post-crisis, but it was Azmodel as the host of the Spectre. If you want to try to compare Thanos to Spectre, be my guest and set up a thread.




No, it won't.



Covered already.



I read, I replied.

You mean, in the case that Superman suddenly forgot that he's a time traveler?



Untrue. Superman's willpower even the Guardians claimed to be the greatest in the universe. Before they realised his potential as Superman, they wanted him to lead their Green Lantern Corp as the greatest it would ever know.

Pre-Crisis Superman also showed the ability to backlash mental powers back at their user. I'll attempt to get the scan if I feel ambitious enough.


This wasn't a reply to me, but I'll take initiative and cover it anwyays. It doesn't count in close quarters sure, but his speed certainly counts overall. Getting from point A to point B is always a factor. I like how we're going back to leaning on the space gem in the debate now though, because we realise how much the power gem showings are failing next to Superman's, and how much he needs the space gem to contend here. Coming from the guy who said;
lol.
Next?



Says who? He caught a cold via magic, because he's otherwise immune to cold and disease. Superman has feats blowing around giant stars and planets with his breath outside of that showing anyways, without effort. Try again.



lol. You see the scan I posted of that guy that hit Superman with the force of a hundred galaxies? He's a bug next to PC Darkseid.

That team wouldn't have even lasted that long against PC Darkseid.


Could be, I never said Superman wins. I've just been debating, and winning, which is clear from your debating methods. 1) The way I'm getting you to double back on debating points- for example; how you started saying he won't need the space gem, then going right back to using the space gem in your reply. Or for another example; how you said he'd kill Superman in one shot. And 2) Starting to wildly claim events and applications on Superman's character without proving said applications. Thanos having higher willpower, Thanos being able to do this or that.


Try to reply to this without wildly running off on tangents or doubling back on your aguements, because it's entirely true.

Winning hahaha your a funny guy. Do I really need to post scans of all the times PC Supes has been KO'd or hurt? You act as though he's never been hurt or phazed unless it was from a galaxy busting blast? Is that your claim because I would sure love to prove you wrong. Fact, is he's been KO'd by people and things far beneath Thanos with PG true or not? So, right there if you answer honestly one of your arguments gets owned.

Next you claim that PC supes has more feats then Thanos with a PG.. Do I really need to argue why this is the case? How man comics has Supes been in PC compared to how many times has Thanos used the PG. So, your argument is because Supes has more feats thus he wins... FAIL.

Another question does Supes have limitless power? We know the PG affords the user if using it correctly limitless power which Supes doesn't possess correct? Yet you think somehow he's stronger and less vulverable than Thanos with the PG lol. Do you really believe that then please answer my question if he has limitless power.. and less vulverable lol.

Next question would you not agree that Thanos would be a very capable user of the PG to get a lot of power from it? Would it not be safe to say that because he has used it before he's pretty good at accessing it powers? Would you also say that if he's had it for a length of time this is a curb stomp? If he just gets it before the battle starts I could see you arguing for PC Supes (actually I can't because with the SG it's game over) but if he's had it for good amount of time you still believe Supes can win? lol

Also, what being of Thanos calibur with the PG has tried matter manipulation on Supes and failed since you think that is very unlikely? Thanos is far far more versatile then Supes and you add the PG to his power game over. Actually that is a great question who is more versatile and has more weakness? Lets see if your honest again. Exactly what would stop Thanos from putting a force block of Kryp around supes? lol. Supes best weapon is hand to hand fighting and speed and yet you think that will do what to Thanos who's invulverable? Your arguments... Supes has more feats then PG Thanos ummm duh how many more issues has he had.. lol fails miserably. You act as though PC supes can't be hurt unless it's from a galaxy busting blast lol haha fails miserably. You claim matter manipulation won't work on Supes but yet post nobody on Thanos level with the PG... fails miserably. Let me know when you make a valid argument and try and honest the questions honestly.

Tazer
Yo.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Thanos with the greatest of ease

as "he goes thru the air", no doubt.........

big grin




Tazer

horrorwolf
Superman really gets pwned here.

Hard.

Stoic
If Gladiator was written to be PC Superman's equivalent, how would PC Superman win this when Thanos killed Gladiator by breaking his neck?

Enyalus
Originally posted by Stoic
If Gladiator was written to be PC Superman's equivalent, how would PC Superman win this when Thanos killed Gladiator by breaking his neck?

Sadly (to me), Gladiator doesn't have the feats to back that comparison up.

iceman24567
Pc Supes has better showings than Gladz way better everybody and their grandmother knows this.

Galan007
Originally posted by Enyalus
Sadly (to me), Gladiator doesn't have the feats to back that comparison up. I bet that hurt.

















wiggle

guy222
thanos ftw

Mr Master
This thread is hilarious. laughing

Thanos possesses the Power Gem, (and knows how to tap into it)
which alone defeats Superman,
throwing in the Space Gem makes it a curbstomp.

The freaking Power Gem alone
would have soon become a threat
to a good portion of the infinite Marvelverse itself,
according to Eternity himself:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/470554_PG10.jpg

"Thor .... a danger ... to a good portion of ALL that is Infinity & myself"


And that's in the hands of Thor,
who couldn't even tap into it.

Even if Supes can last a while (against the PG alone)
soon or later Thanos would crush him,
with the Space Gem, imo, it's an instant win for Thanos.

iceman24567
Pfft Superman almost pwned the Dcverse by flying really fast so yeah being a threat to everything really isn't everything its cracked up to be.

The Great Galen
I agree his threat is funny, I'm leaning towards Supes however.

iceman24567
Yeah not sure about Superman winning a majority but it isn't a stomp.

The Great Galen
I just don't know to which extent the SD would amp him, although even a couple hours alone would make him vastly better in terms of stats.

Stoic
Originally posted by Mr Master
This thread is hilarious. laughing

Thanos possesses the Power Gem, (and knows how to tap into it)
which alone defeats Superman,
throwing in the Space Gem makes it a curbstomp.

The freaking Power Gem alone
would have soon become a threat
to a good portion of the infinite Marvelverse itself,
according to Eternity himself:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/470554_PG10.jpg

"Thor .... a danger ... to a good portion of ALL that is Infinity & myself"


And that's in the hands of Thor,
who couldn't even tap into it.

Even if Supes can last a while (against the PG alone)
soon or later Thanos would crush him,
with the Space Gem, imo, it's an instant win for Thanos.

This is very true, with the space gem he would be able to move 1000's of times faster than any Superman, and if you add the power gem to the mix it is easily conceivable that one hit from Thanos could go right through Superman's body.

I really think that this thread is somewhat ridiculous, and how it got so far is insane when you take into consideration that PC Mongul used PC Superman as a door mat.

Thanos under these stipulations, would stomp the hell out of PC Superman, he would have more power than Superman by leaps and bounds, and his speed would be off of the chart.

I'd imagine that Thanos with such power would be able to use Superman like an intergalactic ping pong ball, and Thanos would be the sole player.

The Great Galen
I luv how some peeps use PC supes being owned by PC DS or PC mongul as"low feats". By that same line of reasoning Thanos with the IG losing to LT must be a low showing lol.

iceman24567
Yeah as if Pc Mongul was a pushover. This is crazy I don't see how superman losing against Pc monsters like Mongul and Darkseid are bad showings his high end feats kill his low ones. The only thing I know is the power gem is horribly overrated Thanos trapped Thor so it isn't unstoppable.

The Great Galen
Thanos has the application to put these into good use...but its all very speculative. Its like this implied power but with very little feats backing it up. On paper Thanos should win...but going by feats I dont see him taking a SD PC supes who almost destroyed the universe with his speed.

Stoic
Originally posted by The Great Galen
I luv how some peeps use PC supes being owned by PC DS or PC mongul as"low feats". By that same line of reasoning Thanos with the IG losing to LT must be a low showing lol.



How can you soberly put PC Mongul or Darkseid within the same class as the LT?

Thanos under these stipulations doesn't even have to allow PC Superman to take a decent Sundip, on top of it all he would have the power to destroy the very star that the Kryptonian derived power from.

With the PG Thanos was able to destroy planets hurled at him by 2 Celestials with ease, a star would be no problem at all for him to dispatch. Thanos under these conditions would be far above PC Superman.

PC Superman was not fast enough to travel from one universe to another in a blink of an eye, Thanos with the space gem would be far faster than even that.

The Great Galen
Originally posted by Stoic
How can you soberly put PC Mongul or Darkseid within the same class as the LT?

Thanos under these stipulations doesn't even have to allow PC Superman to take a decent Sundip, on top of it all he would have the power to destroy the very star that the Kryptonian derived power from.

With the PG Thanos was able to destroy planets hurled at him by 2 Celestials with ease, a star would be no problem at all for him to dispatch. Thanos under these conditions would be far above PC Superman.

PC Superman was not fast enough to travel from one universe to another in a blink of an eye, Thanos with the space gem would be far faster than that.

PC supes was fast enough to threaten the entire DCU with nothing but pure speed untill Spectre stopped. PC Supes punches could wreck planets if im not mistaken, and PC kryptonians could punch through space/time barriers effortlessly. In fact, PC supes can travel through time so who is to say he would even let thanos aquire the gems....the funny thing is that PC supes just vibrated to time travel.

I wasn't comparing DS or mongul to LT, just commenting on how losing to them is considered a "low feat".

xJLxKing
Originally posted by Stoic
How can you soberly put PC Mongul or Darkseid within the same class as the LT?
That was an example
Thats stupid. It like saying Superman doesn't even have to let Thanos get the Power Gems.

Pc Superman Destroyed planets, and closed Black Hole. That isn't big to what Superman did. Superman repaired a tear in reality with heatvision. He sneezed and destroyed a Solar System. He moved Planets at the SOL. I can go on and on. I wont big grin

Superman sneezed a solar system. Whats your point?

PC Superman was not fast enough to travel from one universe to another in a blink of an eye, Thanos with the space gem would be far faster than even that.
That speed wont help him when he is gonna get killed in a few punches

iceman24567
Well he can travel trillions of miles in a second. Thanos has traveled to another universe in a blink of an eye? Thats impressive but Superman has taken attacks that would destroy planets to no effect he is being underrated by alot of people and yes he can time travel easily.

Mindset
Originally posted by The Great Galen
PC supes was fast enough to threaten the entire DCU with nothing but pure speed untill Spectre stopped. PC Supes punches could wreck planets if im not mistaken, and PC kryptonians could punch through space/time barriers effortlessly. In fact, PC supes can travel through time so who is to say he would even let thanos aquire the gems....the funny thing is that PC supes just vibrated to time travel.

I wasn't comparing DS or mongul to LT, just commenting on how losing to them is considered a "low feat". So Supes time travels and bfr himself?

Stoic
Originally posted by The Great Galen
PC supes was fast enough to threaten the entire DCU with nothing but pure speed untill Spectre stopped. PC Supes punches could wreck planets if im not mistaken, and PC kryptonians could punch through space/time barriers effortlessly. In fact, PC supes can travel through time so who is to say he would even let thanos aquire the gems....the funny thing is that PC supes just vibrated to time travel.

I wasn't comparing DS or mongul to LT, just commenting on how losing to them is considered a "low feat".

It is a low feat when you take into consideration that his battle with Mongul (one that flattened Superman) only generated power enough to tear up a few city buildings... this is a far cry from the dimension splitting punches that you mentioned that Superman was capable of outputting (Hell the Hulk tore into another dimension with his punches; Thanos under these conditions is far above any Hulk).

Thanos with the PG is able to consistently and casually destroy planets, and to do so without really trying.

There is a fact that lingers in this thread, a fact that shows that PC Superman was rarely written consistently, but even so... his highest speed feats would pale to a being able to instantly travel a distance of 1,000,000 plus universes in the blink of an eye. The same applies to his strength, durability, and general power output.

Superman was not infinitely powerful, durable, or strong, he had his limits. Thanos as I mentioned before, would have more power than the star that PC Superman drew his power from.

These two would simply be on different levels.

iceman24567
Why the hell not he doesnt need to beat stupid Thanos because even if he loses he's still a winner in my heart smile

Stoic
Originally posted by iceman24567
Why the hell not he doesnt need to beat stupid Thanos because even if he loses he's still a winner in my heart smile

I've heard people say that the heart is desperately wicked. Don't listen to your heart, listen to your brain... and no that wasn't an insult.

Enyalus
Originally posted by Galan007
I bet that hurt.

















wiggle

Like I just went twelve rounds with Doomsday.

Mindset
Did you see smallville?

Stoic
In PC days Dawnstar of the Legion of Superheros was said to be faster than PC Superman, and she ran a little better than the speed of light.

Food for thought?

Enyalus
Originally posted by Mindset
Did you see smallville?

Yeah. That rubber suit didn't look half bad.

iceman24567
I agree I loved how he decked Clark smile and Stoic I know what you are talking about nothing hurts more than a broken heart sad

iceman24567
Originally posted by Stoic
In PC days Dawnstar of the Legion of Superheros was said to be faster than PC Superman, and she ran a little better than the speed of light.

Food for thought? Yet we see superman move 100's if not 1000's times the speed of light so I don't even know what that's about.

tsscls
I can't believe that anyone could call a PC supes supporter a fanboy in this situation. This is a spite thread. Supes would use Thanos for toilet paper, then fart him out of existence. Has anyone even read the '70's supes I assume we're talking about, here? Thanos stands no chance.

Juntai
Originally posted by iceman24567
Yet we see superman move 100's if not 1000's times the speed of light so I don't even know what that's about. In fact, in one comic, Superman easily surpassed 10 x the speed of the light, and commented on that being Barry's breaking point

Juntai
Originally posted by Stoic
It is a low feat when you take into consideration that his battle with Mongul (one that flattened Superman) only generated power enough to tear up a few city buildings... this is a far cry from the dimension splitting punches that you mentioned that Superman was capable of outputting (Hell the Hulk tore into another dimension with his punches; Thanos under these conditions is far above any Hulk).

Thanos with the PG is able to consistently and casually destroy planets, and to do so without really trying.
Superman can casually destroy planets as well.

Have a feat of strength or general power output, that is more impressive than Superman's, or are we basing this off of hyperbole?

Superman is more powerful than stars. A blast of his heat vision could reignite dead stars.

I could be convinced, but I haven't been thus far, especially with what many were saying earlier about THanos not even needing the space gem in the fight. Because I haven't seen anything but conjecture -- no evidence or proof -- that any wielder of the power gem, had more power than Superman.

Juntai
Superman can dissapear and reappear anywhere he wants, by altering his vibrational frequency, a trick he learned from Flash.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5515310
Similarly, he can time travel, and dimension hop at will, even leave the multiverse behind him altgoether.

Juntai
Superman could create counter vibrations to redirect nearly any ranged attack. This is true for energy blasts, red sun, kryptonite and.... even bad luck.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5514970

Juntai
PC Supes can traverse the entire universe near instantly.

Fly through time with no effort at all...

Teleport...

Travel between dimensions...

Turn invisible and intangible....

Has senses good enough to see and hear every single thing in the entire universe - at the same time...

A small blast of heat vision could reignite a sun.

He has enough power in his lungs alone to blow a giant star through space...

He can punch a starship clean out of the solar system with one punch...

He can carry of Galaxy of planets across the universe without straining.

He can see the entire electromagnetic spectrum. He even has control over it.

He has molecular control with Supervision.

He can create the incredible Super Vibrations which can seal people off in far flung dimensions.... or even bring them back from those same dimensions whenever he feels like....similarly, he can redirect any projectile, or even create impossible to pass walls with it.

He can create amazing unparalled technology near instantly.

The Great Galen
Originally posted by Juntai
Superman could create counter vibrations to redirect nearly any ranged attack. This is true for energy blasts, red sun, kryptonite and.... even bad luck.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5514970

Shit I didn't know he could do that, would have helped when some peeps debating SS could just take him down with a k-nit bolt. Anyhow Stoic ur example of why Supes losing to mogul and DS still is very wonky if u ask me, the punch T&A were hurling at SS for example didnt even seem to wreck a small building either so are we to assume its a low feat to?

iceman24567
Yeah Juntai is better than me at proving Pc Supes awesomeness I am not worthy.

The Great Galen
Yeah I completly forgot he could deminsion/time hop as well...its kind of sad that most characters need mutliversal artifacts just to keep up with PC supes stats lol.

Zack Fair
PC Supes was so ridiculously overpowered. I neede threads like these to have people remind me how grand his nonsense was.

The Great Galen
Originally posted by Zack Fair
PC Supes was so ridiculously overpowered. I neede threads like these to have people remind me how grand his nonsense was.

I wish DC would just to a mini-series of him recovering his PC stats u know, just to showcase to everyone that he still has what to it takes to be powerful. At the end of the series he could intentionally supress those attributes and return to his current form.

Tazer
Yo.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
PC Supes was so ridiculously overpowered. I neede threads like these to have people remind me how grand his nonsense was.

but since he still dealt with threats that gave even him issues , how can he have been overpowered??




Tazer

complexbrother
Thanos with the Power gem powering the space gem would be unbeatable .

guy222
thanos

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Juntai
PC Supes can traverse the entire universe near instantly.

Fly through time with no effort at all...

Teleport...

Travel between dimensions...

Turn invisible and intangible....

Has senses good enough to see and hear every single thing in the entire universe - at the same time...

A small blast of heat vision could reignite a sun.

He has enough power in his lungs alone to blow a giant star through space...

He can punch a starship clean out of the solar system with one punch...

He can carry of Galaxy of planets across the universe without straining.

He can see the entire electromagnetic spectrum. He even has control over it.

He has molecular control with Supervision.

He can create the incredible Super Vibrations which can seal people off in far flung dimensions.... or even bring them back from those same dimensions whenever he feels like....similarly, he can redirect any projectile, or even create impossible to pass walls with it.

He can create amazing unparalled technology near instantly. all of that pales compared to the power gem. total invincibility for the win.

Zack Fair
All of that pales in comparison to hyperbole.

AWESOME.

Juntai
Originally posted by psycho gundam
all of that pales compared to the power gem. total invincibility for the win. Show me a power gem user coming close to Superman's feats.

Galan007
Originally posted by Juntai
Show me a power gem user coming close to Superman's feats. There isn't such an instance. People are just taking the 'infinite power' thing to the absolute extreme.

"Superman has towed a galaxy-worth of planets behind him like nothing, Superman has sneezed away a solar system, Superman has moved a giant star using only his breath, etc, etc, etc."

"Oh yeah? Well Thanos has infinite power, so he wins!!!!111!!"

Enyalus
Originally posted by Juntai
PC Supes can traverse the entire universe near instantly.

Fly through time with no effort at all...

Teleport...

Travel between dimensions...

Turn invisible and intangible....

Has senses good enough to see and hear every single thing in the entire universe - at the same time...

A small blast of heat vision could reignite a sun.

He has enough power in his lungs alone to blow a giant star through space...

He can punch a starship clean out of the solar system with one punch...

He can carry of Galaxy of planets across the universe without straining.

He can see the entire electromagnetic spectrum. He even has control over it.

He has molecular control with Supervision.

He can create the incredible Super Vibrations which can seal people off in far flung dimensions.... or even bring them back from those same dimensions whenever he feels like....similarly, he can redirect any projectile, or even create impossible to pass walls with it.

He can create amazing unparalled technology near instantly.

All that, and it still doesn't prevent him from being turned into a teddy bear and given to Lady Death as a present. (Every woman loves stuffed bears - common fact.)

xJLxKing
Originally posted by Enyalus
All that, and it still doesn't prevent him from being turned into a teddy bear and given to Lady Death as a present. (Every woman loves stuffed bears - common fact.)
Thats not the question. EVERYONE can admit that if Odin hit Superman with anyone of his Magics it done. However, can Odin hit him? Superman has shown much more Speed.

Enyalus
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Thats not the question. EVERYONE can admit that if Odin hit Superman with anyone of his Magics it done. However, can Odin hit him? Superman has shown much more Speed.

Wrong thread, homie.

xJLxKing
Originally posted by Enyalus
Wrong thread, homie.
Wow, I got confused. There are so many threads about Superman. sad

Any ways someone tell me what the power of the Space gem?

Enyalus
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Wow, I got confused. There are so many threads about Superman. sad

Any ways someone tell me what the power of the Space gem?

I'll do you one better - I'll show you the scan...after I eat my pizza. stick out tongue

Basically, it allows someone to be anywhere and everywhere instantly, with but a thought.

Bentley
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Wow, I got confused. There are so many threads about Superman. sad

Any ways someone tell me what the power of the Space gem?

Being nowhere, everywhere or at multiple places at once.

xJLxKing
Originally posted by Enyalus
I'll do you one better - I'll show you the scan...after I eat my pizza. stick out tongue

Basically, it allows someone to be anywhere and everywhere instantly, with but a thought.
I know the basics. It can be found with but a simple google search. however I don't understand the mean of "allows someone to be anywhere and everywhere" Does that means you have billions of copies of yourself?

Bentley
Originally posted by xJLxKing
I know the basics. It can be found with but a simple google search. however I don't understand the mean of "allows someone to be anywhere and everywhere" Does that means you have billions of copies of yourself?

Nop, you can be everywhere. Air can be in the sky, in the plains but also in your blood vessels, your lungs etc., take any part of space. You are contained there. As Iceman can be contained in any water particle, you can be in everything and anything.

Enyalus
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Wow, I got confused. There are so many threads about Superman. sad

Any ways someone tell me what the power of the Space gem?

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Quest_2_39.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_Quest_2_39.jpg

xJLxKing
Quite powerful, but I don't understand how the Space and power gem(2 different) can out wit superman. I just cant picture.

Enyalus
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Quite powerful, but I don't understand how the Space and power gem(2 different) can out wit superman. I just cant picture.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Okay...this is the only time in which Thanos uses the Power Gem by itself. Proof of this:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-09.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-10.jpg

Thanos unfreezes time. He's still adjusting to limiting himself, and so gets ambushed. Nevertheless, he blasts Drax away like nothing and the narrator claims they are 'bothersome fleas:'

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-11.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-12.jpg

Thanos isn't even bothering to defend himself from Hulk's shots. Doesn't need to. He's invulnerable. And hey - shows off a neat trick - the ability to grow to enormous size:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-13.jpg
(Note the durability when he's taking Vision's blast)

Another neat trick - Thanos trapping Namor and She-Hulk in somekind of rust/fungus/whatever:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-14.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-15.jpg

Gets hit by Mjolnir unexpectedly. Back up nearly instantly after blowing Doom the hell off of him, and looking Super Saiyan:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-16.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-17.jpg

More neat tricks by Thanos' Power Gem? Teleportation portals, tossing Thor aside like a baby and swatting Firelord like a fly, then turning Wolverine's adamantium skeleton into rubber:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-18.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-20.jpg
3. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-21.jpg
4. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-22.jpg

Unphased by Cyclopes' optic blasts and easily overpowers Scarlet Witch:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-23.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-24.jpg

Force-blocks and kills Cyclopes before tearing open Vision:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-25.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-27.jpg

Cloak attempts to trap him in the Dark Dimension, and cannot. He's also laughing off a blast by Drax and apparently thinks Firelord attempting to choke him is humorous:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-28.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-29.jpg

Opens up a time portal and BFR's Firelord and Drax to the prehistoric age:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-32.jpg

Even more exotic stuff - looks like he's getting a beatdown. Then again, he recovers quickly and seems just fine. Then proceeds to turn Thor into glass and Nova into a bunch of blocks.

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-33.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-34.jpg
3. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-35.jpg

Shatters Thor, annihilates Quasar and reduces him to ash, transmutes the floor to grab ahold of Captain America's legs, then smashes his shield into pieces with one blow.

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-36.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-38.jpg
3. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-41.jpg

Again...all of that was with solely the Power Gem. After nearly having it taken by SS, he wills himself back:

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-44.jpg


As you know, the Power Gem backs the other gems and amplifies their power, too. Meaning with the Space Gem added to it...

Anywho, he beats PC Supes with just the PG or the PG and SG.

That's the PG alone. Now picture what he could do to Superman with that plus total control over space.

The Great Galen
Anyhow Supes wins.

Enyalus
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Anyhow Supes wins.

Nope.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Thanos Rapes and with the greatest of ease. You supes fan boys post all this stuff and that is all going to do what to somebody who is growing in power every second and is invincible? That's right not a damn thing.

The Great Galen
Supes wins.

KuRuPT Thanosi
^^^^ Can I have whatever your smoking?

Nihilist
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
^^^^ Can I have whatever your smoking? didnt you know pc supes power is greater than 2/5th of what the ig is

The Great Galen
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
^^^^ Can I have whatever your smoking?

Srry, implied power vs realized power....hmm wonder which one will win.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Enyalus
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Quest_2_39.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_Quest_2_39.jpg that's thanos' face there if nobody else noticed. he rearranged nebulae, stars, planets etc with the space gem to create that.

Enyalus
Originally posted by psycho gundam
that's thanos' face there if nobody else noticed. he rearranged nebulae, stars, planets etc with the space gem to create that.

Yeah. And like I already said - with Thanos wielding the Power Gem, he doesn't even need the other one. He turns PC Supes into a Barbie doll, Surfer into a GI Joe w/ a real gun and has him waste Kal with ease, while laughing at the irony.

The Great Galen
Or supes blitz him, sounds more realistic.

Enyalus
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Or supes blitz him, sounds more realistic.

It's completely impossible to blitz someone with the Space Gem for one - you have total control over space. Meaning he'd always know where Superman was, and could be anywhere at all, with a simple thought.

Secondly, if we're using my stance that he doesn't even need the Space Gem - he's still got shielding.


EDIT: And more realistic? I just showed Thanos transmuting three people with the PG alone, in half an issue. Show me PC Supes speedblitzing someone.

KuRuPT Thanosi
A speed blitz is going to do what to somebody who can't be hurt and surpasses you in power? Speed blitz hahahahah lol. Supes fan boys never cease to amuse me.

Enyalus
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
A speed blitz is going to do what to somebody who can't be hurt and surpasses you in power? Speed blitz hahahahah lol. Supes fan boys never cease to amuse me.

Not to mention that Thanos has dodged people who have superspeed before, and that the PG grants superspeed itself. Thanos is liable to simply catch his fist and melt his face with an energy blast.

xJLxKing
I can give you one on the top of my head. He speed blitz'ed Imperiex

Superman maybe not, but sundipped Superman maybe. It all depend on how much sundipping he gets. I mean this guy defeat DS because of it with ease.


Speed is the most strongest power one can get. You can have the most power in the world, but it wont do you any good if your opponent is traveling the world and hitting you at the same time. My point is that Superman has speed over Thanos. That is all!

Enyalus
xJLxKing, the examples you used - Imperiex and DS - both are Post Crisis, Current Supes.

We're speaking about Pre-Crisis Superman.

xJLxKing
Originally posted by Enyalus
xJLxKing, the examples you used - Imperiex and DS - both are Post Crisis, Current Supes.

We're speaking about Pre-Crisis Superman.
That's lame. Superman is superman. They both have the same power but at a different scale. If Current Superman can use speed in fighting so can PC Superman. Just because I don't have proof means nothing it logic!!

Pc Superman was very powerful that he didn't need to use speedblit to destroy his opponent. Most of his opponent were overpowered.

KuRuPT Thanosi
He can hit thanos 10000000 and it will do nothing to Thanos. The power gem makes him invincible that is what your not getting. Not to mention the fact that he couldn't even speed blitz someone with the power gem as they now have super speed. Regular thanos has dealt with super speed before with ease. Now you give him the power gem and the space gem and people still say speed blitz hahahah alol lol. Awesome.

xJLxKing
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He can hit thanos 10000000 and it will do nothing to Thanos. The power gem makes him invincible that is what your not getting. Not to mention the fact that he couldn't even speed blitz someone with the power gem as they now have super speed. Regular thanos has dealt with super speed before with ease. Now you give him the power gem and the space gem and people still say speed blitz hahahah alol lol. Awesome. Show me, or name people who are even close to the destructive power that PC Superman brings!! That's without any power and space gem. Remember Superman will casually punch through time with light punches.

Enyalus
Originally posted by xJLxKing
If Current Superman can use speed in fighting so can PC Superman. Just because I don't have proof means nothing it logic!!

Pc Superman was very powerful that he didn't need to use speedblit to destroy his opponent. Most of his opponent were overpowered.

Yeah. That's bloodly brilliant. See, there's this no bias rule on KMC, with all claims having to be backed up by proof...

Besides that, Imperiex is slow as monkey shiite. That, and PC Supes never showed the ability to sundip. There's no proof it would even positively affect him.

Basically, you have nothing except your baseless opinion. As I said before, Thanos turns him into Barbie. Game over.

darthgoober
Originally posted by xJLxKing
That's lame. Superman is superman. They both have the same power but at a different scale. If Current Superman can use speed in fighting so can PC Superman. Just because I don't have proof means nothing it logic!!

Pc Superman was very powerful that he didn't need to use speedblit to destroy his opponent. Most of his opponent were overpowered.
Whether or not you think it's lame, it's against forum rules to try to use feats from alternate universes...

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