Britain might ban happy hour

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KidRock
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081122/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_drinking_deaths

http://www.southafrica.to/transport/Airlines/cheapest-flight-survey/2007/Unhappy-hour.gif

Deja~vu
Revolt, revolt!!

lord xyz
What bloody need is there for a happy hour anyway?

Typical Brit response.

Bardock42
You get cheaper drinks, the bar gets more costumers.


Typical rational re-response.

jaden101
Originally posted by lord xyz
What bloody need is there for a happy hour anyway?



to get drunk...what other reason do you need?

Rogue Jedi
So a few idiots cant handle their liquor and others have to suffer?

Alpha Centauri
With all due respect, Britain's population is plagued by problem drinkers to the point that many people suffer.

It's very much a sensible thing to try to curb this.

-AC

Bardock42
When I said "costumers" I meant people that go into a bar and buy stuff, more commonly referred to as "customers" not people that make costumes. no expression

Red Nemesis
Originally posted by Bardock42
When I said "costumers" I meant people that go into a bar and buy stuff, more commonly referred to as "customers" not people that make costumes. no expression

But now where will I get the costumes for my bar?!?!

Bicnarok
Britain has a definite alcohol problem.

The binge drinking and anti social behavior is a unique factor in europe, I think its to do with the upbringing and physique.

Any solutions?

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
With all due respect, Britain's population is plagued by problem drinkers to the point that many people suffer.

It's very much a sensible thing to try to curb this.

-AC I would think that the bulk of customers affected by this are hard code drinkers, the ones who will buy drinks no matter what the price. just like there are smokers out there who, no matter how high they raise the price on cigarettes, will pay it.

lord xyz
Originally posted by Bardock42
When I said "costumers" I meant people that go into a bar and buy stuff, more commonly referred to as "customers" not people that make costumes. no expression I read it as customers.

Bicnarok
This reminds me of this sketchsmile laughing

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Raoul
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
With all due respect, Britain's population is plagued by problem drinkers to the point that many people suffer.

It's very much a sensible thing to try to curb this.

-AC

ireland has similar problems, but our government doesn't seem to care enough to even try and bring in something like this...

they bring in stupid shit like closing all the bars at 11...

lil bitchiness
There is a huge problem in Britian with binge drinking but it is attitude to drinking needs to change and until that changes people will continue to go out and get trollied.

Drinks are ridiculously cheap in Prague, but apart from British hen and stag nights, many other Checz people don't have a natural urge to get wasted just because drinks are cheap.

Britian needs to change how it views drinking, and getting drunk. Banning things, like in many other cases, doesn't automatically mean imporvement.

Rogue Jedi
What about stiffer punishments?

Bardock42
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What about stiffer punishments? Stiffer punishment for what exactly?

Rogue Jedi
Public Intoxication, Driving while Intoxicated, etc;

lord xyz
Or how about making cars that'll pull you to the side of the road if it's oscillating, so drinking and driving won't be a problem.

Bicnarok

Rogue Jedi
I think mandatory Jail/Rehab time is called for. No more of this probation/community service slap on the wrist shit.

jaden101
i think it's utterly ridiculous some of the efforts the government have gone to in order to bring a more, what they call, continental attitude to alcohol in the UK...because they utterly forget that we don't have anything else in common with continental Europe that affects drinking habits...

we don't have continental weather...so relaxing and drinking outdoors in cafe/bars is out of the question on most parts of the UK...

we don't have continental attitude to work...namely like Spain...we don't work for 3 hours...then have a 3 hour sleep at lunch time...work for another 3 hours and go home...we don't encourage people to take their families out to bars...infact we prohibit it by law.

a large chunk of people i know personally have the motto "work hard, play hard"...and that means working 50-60 and sometimes even 70 hours a week...and getting ripped off their face 1 night a week

i notice people saying that attitudes to drink need to be changed...and quite frankly it's just regurgitating the government drivel...and even they don't want attitudes to drink change because they make vastly more in tax from alcohol (and from cigarettes too) than they spend on the NHS treating problems caused by it

not to mention that they are continually looking for ways to exclude from medical treatment the same people who have provided those funds in the 1st place...need an operation?...tough...too fat...drink too much...smoke too much...you're ****ed ...the governemnt that you've paid a ridiculous amount of taxes to all your life are telling you to **** right off "for your own good"

nice one Britain...well you know what...i visit the doctors once every 5 years at the most...i get a yearly check at the dentist...and i'll continue to get plastered out my face on a regular basis because it's too much god damn fun....and when i'm sick from liver problems then you will ****ing give me a new one because i've bloody well paid for it.

disagree?...good for you!

Deja~vu
Originally posted by jaden101
to get drunk...what other reason do you need? Generally you get free food too! cool

Grand-Moff-Gav
Originally posted by jaden101
i think it's utterly ridiculous some of the efforts the government have gone to in order to bring a more, what they call, continental attitude to alcohol in the UK...because they utterly forget that we don't have anything else in common with continental Europe that affects drinking habits...

we don't have continental weather...so relaxing and drinking outdoors in cafe/bars is out of the question on most parts of the UK...

we don't have continental attitude to work...namely like Spain...we don't work for 3 hours...then have a 3 hour sleep at lunch time...work for another 3 hours and go home...we don't encourage people to take their families out to bars...infact we prohibit it by law.

a large chunk of people i know personally have the motto "work hard, play hard"...and that means working 50-60 and sometimes even 70 hours a week...and getting ripped off their face 1 night a week

i notice people saying that attitudes to drink need to be changed...and quite frankly it's just regurgitating the government drivel...and even they don't want attitudes to drink change because they make vastly more in tax from alcohol (and from cigarettes too) than they spend on the NHS treating problems caused by it

not to mention that they are continually looking for ways to exclude from medical treatment the same people who have provided those funds in the 1st place...need an operation?...tough...too fat...drink too much...smoke too much...you're ****ed ...the governemnt that you've paid a ridiculous amount of taxes to all your life are telling you to **** right off "for your own good"

nice one Britain...well you know what...i visit the doctors once every 5 years at the most...i get a yearly check at the dentist...and i'll continue to get plastered out my face on a regular basis because it's too much god damn fun....and when i'm sick from liver problems then you will ****ing give me a new one because i've bloody well paid for it.

disagree?...good for you!

What a short-sighted, stupid, ignorant view.

Deja~vu
FREE FRICKEN FOOD!!

I need food to bring home to my box where I now live.



Imagine these as hamburgers.----> pile

They want me to eat them..

jaden101
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
What a short-sighted, stupid, ignorant view.

Is it really?...no it's not...it's blunt truth and if people can't see it then tough

i'm sick and tired of news broadcasts showing supposedly drunk trouble makers when all it usually is is a guy carrying a girl on her back after a night out or someone staggering about?...how this is anti-social troublemaking that it is alleged is utterly beyond me...especially when there is genuinely anti-social behaviour happening in sections of the society that leave people trapped in their homes in fear of violence and intimidation

but this attempt at trying to change behaviour in drinkers is just another way for the nanny state that Britain has become to impose itself on people who are, in the vast majority, hard working and law abiding tax payers out for a bit of fun

what's totally bizarre is that it wont even have an affect on problem drinkers who cause huge damage to their health because they almost all buy their alcohol from off-licenses and drink at home by themselves...so how does banning happy hour have a positive affect on that section of society?...

to show my point i suggest you have a watch of this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/7140605.stm

it's only a follow up to a previous documentary but it highlights my point

from personal experience both as someone who goes out drinking...and as someone who has worked in the security industry in pubs and nightclubs i can testify to the fact that their is very little trouble in or outside of nightclubs relative to the amount of people that go out

so no...it's not short sighted, stupid or ignorant...it's borne out of facts and experience

now i'm not saying drinking isn't harmless...of course it isn't...but people should be given and take the personal responsibility for their actions and not have it ever increasingly imposed upon them by the state.

once again...banning happy hour has absolutely nothing to do with changing people's drinking habits...because it wont...what it will do is generate a shit load of revenue for the government

jaden101

Deja~vu
Long winded. Must be the booze.

jaden101
nah...must be that you're a typical woman stick out tongue

Bardock42
I think jaden makes a lot of sense with some of his points. I only read the first, cause ... I am lazy....but I would be interested in statistics on how much more (if at all) cigarette smokers, binge drinkers and obese people actually cost a health care system. Seeins as apparently they all die sooner I'd assume it's actually saving the taxpayer money, but I suppose the treatment of those people might be extraordinarily expensive.

Actually, I'd like exact statistics on tax payment and government spending, but, tying in with my ealier statement I am just too lazy.

If someone's going to find some, do me a favour and also find stats on average age by country, I can't seem to find any. Cheers (topic specific ending).

Deja~vu
Originally posted by jaden101
nah...must be that you're a typical woman stick out tongue Youre long winded and say women???? laughing out loud laughing rolling on floor laughing

*lies on the floor giggling* HAHAHAHAHA

jaden101
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Youre long winded and say women???? laughing out loud laughing rolling on floor laughing

*lies on the floor giggling* HAHAHAHAHA

missing my point...again...typical woman laughing

not doubting that women are long winded...but when it comes to someone else giving a long opinion...you're not interested

are you listening?...or merely waiting for your turn to speak?

jaden101
Originally posted by Bardock42
I think jaden makes a lot of sense with some of his points. I only read the first, cause ... I am lazy....but I would be interested in statistics on how much more (if at all) cigarette smokers, binge drinkers and obese people actually cost a health care system. Seeins as apparently they all die sooner I'd assume it's actually saving the taxpayer money, but I suppose the treatment of those people might be extraordinarily expensive.

Actually, I'd like exact statistics on tax payment and government spending, but, tying in with my ealier statement I am just too lazy.

If someone's going to find some, do me a favour and also find stats on average age by country, I can't seem to find any. Cheers (topic specific ending).

well...related to my point...here's the tax on individual volumes of alcohol in the EU

http://www.ias.org.uk/resources/factsheets/tax.pdf

given that the UK has the 2nd highest tax per unit...yet supposedly the highest death rate from alcohol abuse

although this set of stats would indicate the UK is far from the worst in relation to units per week consumed and % of the population that are binge drinkers

http://ec.europa.eu/health/ph_determinants/life_style/alcohol/documents/alcohol_factsheet_en.pdf

but the facts are that taxing alcohol doesn't change drinking habits...if governments truly cared about people's health over tax revenue from things such as alcohol and tobacco then they would simply ban them outright....but they dont

Deja~vu
Originally posted by jaden101
missing my point...again...typical woman laughing

not doubting that women are long winded...but when it comes to someone else giving a long opinion...you're not interested

are you interested???...or merely waiting for your turn to speak? Got me. laughing out loud


BTW, say something Scotish. Well besides scotch tape.

Bada's Palin
Good idea.

Hope it works.

WrathfulDwarf
I'm not too sold on this idea that Britain is a nation pack with drunks....what nation in the world isn't full of drunks?

Oh, China...nvm.

Anywhoo....Happy Hour is good for business and for social interaction. I rarely drink nowadays but when I had my alcohol...happy hour was the time to let loose. Don't ban it...

Bespin Bart
China doesn't count.

I have to say I'm amused by all the euphemisms that pop when drinking is mentioned. They're more interesting than American euphemisms... how boring is 'shitfaced' compared to 'face ripped off'?

Anyways, if they think it will help, then there is no harm in trying it. But if it doesn't do diddly, then they can repeal it.

Jack Daniels
bummer

Devil King
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So a few idiots cant handle their liquor and others have to suffer?

But that's the very point of the thread starter beginning this thread. His assumption is that some people can handle their drink os everyone has to suffer the rules made by the few that suffer the judgment made by those who think that everyone can't handle their booze. What he's doing is holding this example out as the ultimate goal of the liberal socialists like Obama who want to make rules for everyone based of the actions of the minority.

Bicnarok

Bada's Palin
Kidrock is right.

This IS Obama's fault.

botankus
Originally posted by lord xyz
Or how about making cars that'll pull you to the side of the road if it's oscillating, so drinking and driving won't be a problem.

Frankly, in today's world, I'm surprised these aren't commonplace or even law already.

jaden101

Raoul
Originally posted by jaden101
awa n pit n egg in yir shoe n beat it ya ****in eejit or ah'll leather yir ****in grid in

i understood that *cries*

UKR
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So a few idiots cant handle their liquor and others have to suffer?


That's liberals and political correctness for you.

Lord Knightfa11

red g jacks
wouldn't it be cheaper to drink out of the bottle then to go to a bar for happy hour?

Lord Knightfa11
yes but its not about the liquor. if you talk to someone who celebrates happy hour its about going out to your favorite pub with your best mate and in american english "kicking it"

red g jacks
yea i get that... i was thinking more from the perspective of an alcoholic.. since it seems that who this is supposedly aiming to help/deter from drinking

Bicnarok

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