Superman/Majestic vs Genis vell/silver surfer
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The Great Galen
I think Genis was supposed to be above herald am I right?
Enyalus
Originally posted by The Great Galen
I think Genis was supposed to be above herald am I right?
He does stuff that is above high herald, yeah.
The Great Galen
I always considered him at least trans level personally, at least thats the way he came off. If we switched Supes with KC Supes then it would be a better fight. At it stands, Team 2 takes it thanks to Genis.
Nihilist
current supes is considered above high herald
The Great Galen
I'd say current supes is peak herald like with SS,Thor and what not, Genis seems like a Trans to me. Supes could probably take some agaisnt him 1 on 1 but overall with such a weak opponent supes can hold off these 2 on his own.
xJLxKing
Originally posted by Nihilist
current supes is considered above high herald
Aren't Superman and SS in another Universe. In that case wouldn't a Heralds be measured differently in power and level
ultimatethor
Originally posted by Nihilist
current supes is considered above high herald
By KMC or fanboy standards??
Mindset
Avlon Supes is above Genis.
Red Hulk
The real last Genis Vell we saw was below Surfer.
Then there was Insane Genis.
Then there was Photon (who, has nothing really except for people saying how powerful he is).
IMO.
Which one is it?
Mindset
The last Genis we saw was Photon
Cavalier
Meh. If it was Insane or Photon, OP likely would have designated it as such.
Red Hulk
Originally posted by Mindset
The last Genis we saw was Photon I'm talking about when he still called himself Genis. Is it when he called himself it, or is it Photon era, because apparently there's a leap in power.
And Photon is a mystery really... in any thread.
The Great Galen
Originally posted by Mindset
Avlon Supes is above Genis.
Goober Surfer stalemates the source.
Mindset
The only difference between Genis after he was insane and during was that he was holding back, his power didn't change.
And ofc he was sane
psycho gundam
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Goober Surfer stalemates the source. sounds about right
Red Hulk
Originally posted by Mindset
The only difference between Genis after he was insane and during was that he was holding back, his power didn't change.
And ofc he was sane Even following this, there is a difference then in threads. As with Genis, he would hold back, and therefore only feats from regular Genis would be applicable.
Mindset
Well I don't have his appearances in Thunderbolts, but after he regained his sanity in his monthly he seemed pretty close in power to when he was insane.
Although I'd have to look through my comics to find examples and I'm lazy, so I'll just agree with you.
Red Hulk
Originally posted by Mindset
Well I don't have his appearances in Thunderbolts, but after he regained his sanity in his monthly he seemed pretty close in power to when he was insane.
Although I'd have to look through my comics to find examples and I'm lazy, so I'll just agree with you. Didn't he almost get owned by Grandmaster?
Even if he was close, he's not very impressive in either stage when it comes to combat. All people bring up is him destroying the universe (and when it's twisted enough, the Omniverse), and that's what they go on. However, his combat feats say an entirely different story.
Meh.
Mindset
Well he was essentiall immortal
He wasn't hurt by Mjolnir thrown by King Thor
Him and Entropy killed Eternity, then he "killed" Entropy.
Idk, tbh I really don't remember that much, I read it a couple years ago.
Red Hulk
Originally posted by Mindset
Well he was essentiall immortal
He wasn't hurt by Mjolnir thrown by King Thor
Him and Entropy killed Eternity, then he "killed" Entropy.
Idk, tbh I really don't remember that much, I read it a couple years ago. Immortal isn't a combat feat.
One Mjolnir swing with no punch behind it (although I believe it did hurt him). If it was like the throw that took off Desakstroyer's head, then that would have been pure impressive.
When Entropy allowed him to. There's no telling how much power is required to destroy an abstract willing to die. But anyway, those are his best feats.
Mindset
Originally posted by Red Hulk
Immortal isn't a combat feat.
One Mjolnir swing with no punch behind it (although I believe it did hurt him). If it was like the throw that took off Desakstroyer's head, then that would have been pure impressive.
When Entropy allowed him to. There's no telling how much power is required to destroy an abstract willing to die. But anyway, those are his best feats.
It is a combat related feat.
It was strong enough to punch through his shields w/o any trouble, but no, it didn't hurt him at all.
Entropy didn't allow him to, Genis just shot him in the head. Didn't seem like Entropy knew it was going to happen.
Red Hulk
Not at all.
It had no energy attached to it, it was just a simple hammer throw. Mayhaps you're right, but either way, it's nothing that puts him on ridiculous levels.
Didn't he let Genis shoot him in the head?
Mindset
Originally posted by Red Hulk
Not at all.
It had no energy attached to it, it was just a simple hammer throw. Mayhaps you're right, but either way, it's nothing that puts him on ridiculous levels.
Didn't he let Genis shoot him in the head?
Partially related.
I wouldn't say being above high herald and below skyfather is a ridiculous level.
I'll post the scan later, doesn't look like Genis gave him a choice to react, he just shot him.
Red Hulk
Originally posted by Mindset
Partially related.
I wouldn't say being above high herald and below skyfather is a ridiculous level.
I'll post the scan later, doesn't look like Genis gave him a choice to react, he just shot him. No.
I'm talking about supporting his universe destroying level. He's got nothing supporting it, so why place him on this level? Without this feat, it would be incredibly hard to place him above Surfer IMO.
Entropy knew he had to replace Eternity, and Genis told him that he needed to be replaced from the beginning.
Mindset
Just agree with me.
Well I never said he was at universe destroying level, I don't know if or why people would put him at that level.
Not exactly what happened, neither Etropy nor Genis knew that Entropy would replace Eternity. Entropy also didn't know Genis was going to shot him before it happened.
Red Hulk
Originally posted by Mindset
Just agree with me.
Well I never said he was at universe destroying level, I don't know if or why people would put him at that level.
Not exactly what happened, neither Etropy nor Genis knew that Entropy would replace Eternity. Entropy also didn't know Genis was going to shot him before it happened. OK.
Because they only look at that feat.
I swear Entropy thought he was going to replace Eternity.
It's been a while though.
Badabing
Originally posted by Mindset
Avlon Supes is above Genis. Please stop.
zeel
Genis > supes hes like orion combined with some of surfers abilities and he fights like a mad man sometimes.
Mindset
Originally posted by Badabing
Please stop. Stop saying Avlon Supes?
Somethign wrong with that?
iceman24567
Lulz team two wins.
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